Honda Blackbird CBR1100 XX

[Hayabusa Sniper]

Originally posted by rvf7972@Sep 6 2004, 02:04 PM

r u a racist?

 

 

i think you should stop making all the remarks about "black"..

 

If u think I'm then dun think u have the chance to talk to me at all... I'm just refering to BNT not human... so are u saying that I cant say any remarks like black bikes, black horse, black panters, black birds, black cobra, black gorilas etc.... wake up ur BNT's ideal and good try on getting others invlove into a racist war.... :nono:

 

 

 

I"M NOT A RACIST BUT HOPE TO BE A RACER..

[Guest rvf7972]

what do u mean by ??

 

wake up ur BNT's ideal

 

anyway i dun want to post further..

 

and dun call me for any of u r rides..

 

[Hayabusa Sniper]

what do u mean by ??

 

anyway i dun want to post further..

 

and dun call me for any of u r rides..

 

 

 

Thought u say u can take watever I said in this forum? thoughts its all between us? We started it with both ways and I ever told u to throw white flag and this will be over but u refuse to? so wat now? wanna goes against ur words again? Just let me know wat u want once and for all.. just simple as that!!

 

You know the rule of the game and you are game for it... Now that u wanna be piss off who to balme???

[Moritsugui Katsumoto]

Hi Guys,

 

The makan ride was great and I would say quite a success. Kudos to our tour guide Riz for bringing us up the pavement with those two pillars haha. Anyways next Ride maybe a bit further ah? As BBB said no proper carbon clearing ya. Hope to join you guys again for the next round and maybe the next round all those of you who missed it can join us... can make convoy with formation if we have more than 10 bikes hehe.

[Guest R1szuan]

Originally posted by rvf7972@Sep 6 2004, 02:01 PM

r u a racist?

 

if you want to remain as friends then you should know what to do k?

 

don't f**k around with me..

 

hey deh angry ready ah?

 

Alamak... deh u knoe me how long ready?? i where got play colour one.. unless u want to play colour with your bike and mine can ah.... :smile:

 

Must be the sotong u eat yesterday or either the rice. Tsk Tsk...

[Guest R1szuan]

Originally posted by Moritsugui Katsumoto@Sep 6 2004, 02:42 PM

Hi Guys,

 

The makan ride was great and I would say quite a success. Kudos to our tour guide Riz for bringing us up the pavement with those two pillars haha. Anyways next Ride maybe a bit further ah? As BBB said no proper carbon clearing ya. Hope to join you guys again for the next round and maybe the next round all those of you who missed it can join us... can make convoy with formation if we have more than 10 bikes hehe.

Yeah all the birds have to go the 2 pillars. Hehehe wonder how kunz going to go thru.

 

BBB for him i think Mersing is good for him. KL is too near for him lah.... kekekekeee

 

Next ride maybe we go orang Asli restaurant or the Tree top restaurant. Josean should knoe where to go man.

 

chicken rice bola is abit too far for me man... just to makan that.

[Guest R1szuan]

Originally posted by MiCmAsta@Sep 4 2004, 02:34 AM

http://www.bmw-motorrad.com/com/_common/img/products/vis_spt_k1200s_03.jpg

 

BMW very own Blackbird???

dunt think more like bmw near heavyweight elephant

[Guest GuiNNeSS]

Originally posted by R1szuan@Sep 6 2004, 03:22 PM

dunt think more like bmw near heavyweight elephant

Actually, the pic is the K1200RS and the specs list it as being lighter than the BB. Initial response says it will blow the BB to the weeds too.

[Guest R1szuan]

Originally posted by GuiNNeSS@Sep 6 2004, 04:55 PM

Actually, the pic is the K1200RS and the specs list it as being lighter than the BB. Initial response says it will blow the BB to the weeds too.

well number and pic is one issue. Lookin from the meter of the bike the top is 280km/h.

 

Being a shaft driven bike i doubt it can really be stable and hit at that speed. well unless i am wrong lah.

 

Anyway it is a inline4 engine and this is bmw 2nd bike using a inline4. First was the K1200GT,LT and now this new monster K1200RS

 

wonder why bmw dont compare thier bike with a Jaded and old bike like a blackbird they should have compared it with a Busa or ZZR1200. Bird have been around for almost 7yrs

[Moritsugui Katsumoto]

Hi guys,

 

Listed below are the specs for the k1200s

 

Top Speed: 175 mph

Power: 167bhp

Torque: 96lb.ft

Engine: 1157cc

Bore x stroke: 75 x 59 mm

Compression ratio: 13:1

Fuel system: fuel injection

Transmission: 6-speed

Frame: aluminium alloy twin spar

Front suspension: Duolever

Adjustment: compression

Rear suspension: Paralever

Adjustment: compression

Brakes front; rear: 2 x 320mm discs/4 pot calipers;

265mm disc/ 2 pot caliper

Tyres Front rear: Metzeler Sportec M1

120/70 ZR17

190/50 ZR 17

Dry Weight: 248kg

 

 

So looking at these specs it shows clearly that the BMW is heavier than the XX at the same time the top speed of the BMW is only 175mph / 281.75 kmh while the XX is 186 mph / 299kmh. With only 135bhp and 79lb of torque i think honda did a good job at squeezing the most out of the bike.

 

Anyways the BMW has many new technological breakthroughs like remote electronic suspension adjustment, better ABS and many other gadgets. If got money maybe consider but I think maybe when I'm much older like 40 plus, if cannot get 7 series then k1200s also can lah.

[Guest GuiNNeSS]

No offence intended, but i am not sure where you got those figures from.

 

BMW's official sources states 248kg is the bike "fully fueled and road ready" That means full tank + engine oil + coolant + whatever else that needs to be added for the bike to be OTR. Dry weight is about 215kg.

 

I have attached the pdf file here for everyone's viewing.

 

As to the 'top speed' stuff, it's really all academic. It is a well known fact that Honda overgeared the BB to beat the zx11 on top speed stakes. Many BB riders have since tried down gearing their birds and found that it transforms the bike totally, improving response.

 

I am not trying to knock any bike here, much less compare against any bike in particular. Every bike has it's merits. I suspect the K12 will be landmark bike because the japanese have not really been active in this section of bikes. This could be the hypersport bike of the late 2000's. Comparing figures, the k12 has more torque than the busa! They have tested this bike at Nurgburgring, and the lap time is ONLY 10seconds off the unofficial bike lap record which was set on a HRC spec RC30. If you consider that the track is 17miles long 10 seconds is really nothing! Any current hypersports be it the Busa or zx12 or Bird would have a seriously hard pushed to get near those times.

[pai]

Originally posted by R1szuan@Sep 6 2004, 11:15 AM

enjoy watching those pic ok!

 

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/riszuantini/...ntini/my_photos

great pics!

[blackbird]

I agree...another makan session with a distance further away....

If there are more bikes, it would be more fun...lets see which bmw tries to play with us again

[Guest R1szuan]

Originally posted by blackbird@Sep 6 2004, 09:49 PM

I agree...another makan session with a distance further away....

If there are more bikes, it would be more fun...lets see which bmw tries to play with us again

u can chose any bmw but dont chose the wrong bmw. Anyway to chase a bmw u need to take out the box.

[Guest R1szuan]

Originally posted by GuiNNeSS@Sep 6 2004, 08:08 PM

No offence intended, but i am not sure where you got those figures from.

 

BMW's official sources states 248kg is the bike "fully fueled and road ready" That means full tank + engine oil + coolant + whatever else that needs to be added for the bike to be OTR. Dry weight is about 215kg.

 

I have attached the pdf file here for everyone's viewing.

 

As to the 'top speed' stuff, it's really all academic. It is a well known fact that Honda overgeared the BB to beat the zx11 on top speed stakes. Many BB riders have since tried down gearing their birds and found that it transforms the bike totally, improving response.

 

I am not trying to knock any bike here, much less compare against any bike in particular. Every bike has it's merits. I suspect the K12 will be landmark bike because the japanese have not really been active in this section of bikes. This could be the hypersport bike of the late 2000's. Comparing figures, the k12 has more torque than the busa! They have tested this bike at Nurgburgring, and the lap time is ONLY 10seconds off the unofficial bike lap record which was set on a HRC spec RC30. If you consider that the track is 17miles long 10 seconds is really nothing! Any current hypersports be it the Busa or zx12 or Bird would have a seriously hard pushed to get near those times.

well let wait for the lean mean german machine invade our shore and pick any sgp up to get it. We see how wheater number and machince work in action.

 

Then it is time to rumble. Showdown of the century. Mach 10

 

Suzuki HayaBusa (Sultan of Straight Road)

Kawasaki ZX12R (King of Straight Road)

ZZR1200 (New Jiao)

Honda CBR 1100XX Super Blackbird (lao Jiao)

BMW K1200RS (Contender)

 

 

I would really love to see all this bike together at GP Esso and take a "slow and easy route to mersing"

 

Disclaimer: the comment made on the bike above is purely for my own interest and knowlegde. I will not be held responsible if you cant agreed on what i see. If you truly unstatisfied learn to accept other ppl thinking. You cant force ppl to see what u see rite?

[Guest R1szuan]

Originally posted by pai@Sep 6 2004, 08:44 PM

great pics!

next makan ride maybe the orang asli restaurant.... or mersing seafood or ice kacang at batu pahat.

 

i am still checking my resource to see got any good curry fish head at parit jawa areas.

 

Meanwhile keep riding

[Moritsugui Katsumoto]

Originally posted by GuiNNeSS@Sep 6 2004, 08:08 PM

No offence intended, but i am not sure where you got those figures from.

 

BMW's official sources states 248kg is the bike "fully fueled and road ready" That means full tank + engine oil + coolant + whatever else that needs to be added for the bike to be OTR. Dry weight is about 215kg.

 

I have attached the pdf file here for everyone's viewing.

 

As to the 'top speed' stuff, it's really all academic. It is a well known fact that Honda overgeared the BB to beat the zx11 on top speed stakes. Many BB riders have since tried down gearing their birds and found that it transforms the bike totally, improving response.

 

I am not trying to knock any bike here, much less compare against any bike in particular. Every bike has it's merits. I suspect the K12 will be landmark bike because the japanese have not really been active in this section of bikes. This could be the hypersport bike of the late 2000's. Comparing figures, the k12 has more torque than the busa! They have tested this bike at Nurgburgring, and the lap time is ONLY 10seconds off the unofficial bike lap record which was set on a HRC spec RC30. If you consider that the track is 17miles long 10 seconds is really nothing! Any current hypersports be it the Busa or zx12 or Bird would have a seriously hard pushed to get near those times.

Hi there,

The sources was quoted from Bike magazine... maybe there was a mistake between the dry weight and when fully loaded. Anyways thanks for the heads up. Do appreciate any honest opinions and I must say.. the BMW is the bike which is paving the future for all models and brands of bikes. With all these new gadgets that the BMW has the Japanese will be forced to implement similar or even better technology just to keep up with the competition.

[Guest GuiNNeSS]

Originally posted by R1szuan@Sep 7 2004, 08:46 AM

 

I would really love to see all this bike together at GP Esso and take a "slow and easy route to mersing"

 

Aiyo..... considering the road condition, if wanna go Mersing.... need something like a Trailie type bike liao. Wahahahahahha

[Guest R1szuan]

Originally posted by GuiNNeSS@Sep 7 2004, 07:38 PM

Aiyo..... considering the road condition, if wanna go Mersing.... need something like a Trailie type bike liao. Wahahahahahha

oh that where u maybe wrong man... The road has changed. Maybe in year 2000 is screw.

 

Now mersing is a mini roller coaster. Got 1 ex bird rider got sea sick and wanted vomit after going fast and hard at mersing road.

 

Should go there man.. Best is u whack your bike when goin up hill. Then the hill will have a deathtifying drop on the other end. Whooo hoo your bike will fly man!

 

dont worry the hills have no sharp bend infront of it. Only pure straight hilly roads.But take care lah hor. U may never knoe sekali got some c*** driver who overtake on a hill slope.

[Moritsugui Katsumoto]

ok will try

[Lion]

Posting on behalf of Kumar Shell Advance.

 

Guys, whats the logo gonna be like? Any draft or preview? I tot the XX might look good on the front left (chest) part? What you guys think?

[Guest R1szuan]

for those who want to knoe how the bird was design and flaws

 

 

http://homepage2.nifty.com/mat-b_michinoku...atsu/index2.htm

 

[lightspeed]

Monday 13 Sept

KKFC

9PM

 

Brainstorming plus talk c**k session..... and get to know each other

 

1. Lightspeed

[Guest R1szuan]

Monday 13 Sept

KKFC

9PM

 

Brainstorming plus talk c**k session..... and get to know each other

 

1. Lightspeed

2: Rizzy

[lightspeed]

come on come on... 2 more to go.....