Honda NSR150SP Riders

flykite · June 23, 2006

Originally posted by NeVe+S@Jun 23 2006, 04:47 PM
haha.. Honda SP cost 3399.99 and 2700 FT plate. (quote from classified)

haha, Cannot make it la, although the 3399.99 bike looks pretty cool but too too ex.. haha this time the "Chopper" even bigger than the shop .. .haha shock !!!

btw, saw one $ 2200 de SP... mY doubt is, If i get from private seller, i need to settle my insurance, road tax (if due soon) and transfer fee right .. wat else to take note...
but that cost up to more than 4 k liao lei ... even costly isn't it. .???

hmmm, private seller give "good price" in today classified but no warranty and stuff... haha

insurance road tax and txf this kind of thing very easy one la

wat for pay thirty bucks and wait two days when u can settle it yourself for free in 4 hours

Redz · June 23, 2006

Originally posted by ravenSP@Jun 23 2006, 05:44 PM
let me ask you a question. what you think the rating for the sportec m1 is?

fyi its sometimes used on 1000cc bikes. some ppl do use it for the 400cc bikes, but its really not as good for them as some of the other tires out there. you think a 150 can sufficiently warm up the tire?

buy the bt39ss.

wah, everyone talking about bike prices! :/ doh

ok..its a confirm...bt39 confirm.

youre like the 4th person to tell me this.

thanks man.

btw, wats the price like ah for the bt39?

which shop good?

flykite · June 23, 2006

Originally posted by fnee@Jun 23 2006, 05:24 PM
getting a bike from private seller

1. you have to take his word for the bike's condition
2. any problems, settle yourself
3. full cash straight, no interest needed
4. transfer fee, road tax, insurance ownself settle
5. cheaper machine price

getting a bike from a shop

1. you have to take the shop's word for the bike's condition
2. any problems, go back to the shop and make noise
3. shop will most probably give you 1 month's warranty
4. able to take loan and pay by installment, interest is variable (HKL charging me 4.525% per year)
5. good for people who don't have full cash
6. transfer, road tax, inspection, insurance all done by the shop
7. more expensive machine price
8. but in exchange, you get a month's warranty and any old or aging parts you can ask the shop to change for you.

which is better? it's your choice.

getting a bike from private seller

1. you have to take his word for the bike's condition

2. any problems, settle yourself

3. full cash straight, no interest needed

4. transfer fee, road tax, insurance ownself settle

5. cheaper machine price

getting a bike from a shop

1. you have to take the shop's word for the bike's condition

2. any problems, go back to the shop and make noise

3. shop will most probably give you 1 month's warranty

4. able to take loan and pay by installment, interest is variable (HKL charging me 4.525% per year)

5. good for people who don't have full cash

6. transfer, road tax, inspection, insurance all done by the shop

7. more expensive machine price

8. but in exchange, you get a month's warranty and any old or aging parts you can ask the shop to change for you.

chances are that the shop would have dismantled good parts (that u cant see) in the bike and replaced them with lousy ones, while private seller always have certain good stuffs on

fnee · June 23, 2006

Originally posted by flykite@Jun 23 2006, 06:04 PM
getting a bike from private seller

1. you have to take his word for the bike's condition
2. any problems, settle yourself
3. full cash straight, no interest needed
4. transfer fee, road tax, insurance ownself settle
5. cheaper machine price

getting a bike from a shop

1. you have to take the shop's word for the bike's condition
2. any problems, go back to the shop and make noise
3. shop will most probably give you 1 month's warranty
4. able to take loan and pay by installment, interest is variable (HKL charging me 4.525% per year)
5. good for people who don't have full cash
6. transfer, road tax, inspection, insurance all done by the shop
7. more expensive machine price
8. but in exchange, you get a month's warranty and any old or aging parts you can ask the shop to change for you.

chances are that the shop would have dismantled good parts (that u cant see) in the bike and replaced them with lousy ones, while private seller always have certain good stuffs on

bert is bert. we know he loves his bikes to death. lol.

COI for seller is risky. and how many are willing to do it. and if the seller bought from a shop, some shops don't allow COI. and if they do, they make you take a new loan altogether, adding in interest again.

some people like me are lazy to go down to LTA. haha so rather everything let bikeshop settle.

of course when you buy from a shop, don't go to a super black black shop lah. buy from a reputable shop (with good reputation of course). even if they overcharge, they justify it in certain ways.

let's say i have $1000 cash. i can't buy a bike from private seller, cause they usually expect full cash ($2k - 2.5k) AND you still have to find $ for insurance, inspection, roadtax and transfer fee. with that $1000 cash, i go to a bike shop with a guarantor, put my downpayment, and can ride away the next day. don't have to worry about paperwork and stuff. yes, i'm paying more for interest ($300 in my case) and the markup the motorshop do on the bike. but i can get my bike there and then, no hassle, no waiting cause i need to save money to buy from pte seller.

how much do you trust the private seller? unless he's someone that has been very active in the forum and everyone knows his bike, and his character, then i can it's safe. you have people registering a username just to post their SP for sale, how much do you know about how they have treated their bike and their character?

i can say i'm pretty happy with HKL so far (other than the black face guy. bert you know who). ah bee's nice, he gives good prices, gives good helmet i went down just now just to replace a few screws, push my headlight out, and saw off the mudguard. mechanic didn't make any noise. prices and major bike problems, i'll go through ah bee. he will do until nice nice for me.

BUT, HKL is my first motorshop, so i don't have any other experience with other motorshops to compare to. and i'm not working for them neither am i paid to advertise for them (doh!). i'm just happy with what i'm getting so far.

just my 2cents. not trying to start an arguement with you or anything cheers!

NeVeS · June 23, 2006

Haha, both of you gives good advices ...

flykite · June 23, 2006

HKL has a good reputation and is a recommended place by many bikers . a few screws, your headlight thingy, small things this and that, i can get it done for free at JB also. ah jie also very nice, just that i can't buy helmet from malaysia. no hidden meaning wat i say, so take it as it's worth ok. i go for cheap and good, i don't see the need to pay more for good deals because not everything that is cheap is bad and not everything that is expensive is good.

my advice has been the same to many newbies: DON'T RUSH TO BUY A BIKE, NOT ENOUGH MONEY, WAIT LAH, SAVE ENOUGH THEN BUY. of cos u can take loan, but in the long run u end up paying more, and of cos if u are willing to kiss goodbye to more cash (in the long run) then no one is stopping u. but wat happen if one day u run tight in cash and can't pay installment? borrow? steal? or let them repossess your bike?

touch wood if u skid or buang, then no money to repair bike, how? still have to pay off your installment u know, on top of the repair. if u can't afford repair leh?? and don't forget that if ur bike kena stolen or declare total lost and can't claim insurance, this loan can put u in a situation where u got no bike but still have to pay for your installment. bikes can bring u into debt too ok, especially those still studying and do not have a steady source of income.

my opinion has always been not to let the bike (and its loans, if applicable) become a liability to u. loans are a financial liability (if u understand wat that term means). to me, a bike is suppose to make my life easier by providing for a source of reliable cheap and convenient transport. if i have to worry about it day in day out or have to bring to motordiam three times a week for checkup, then i'd rather not ride that bike. u get wat i mean? this is my opinion, not even worth 2cents

to each his own, fnee, upz for your 2cents

BabyGaze · June 23, 2006

wts the diff between full svc and overhual?

BabyGaze · June 23, 2006

i juz received my summon letter..so tml go and appeal..can right??they fine me $100=(

cOngx · June 23, 2006

Originally posted by lauze@Jun 23 2006, 11:16 AM
ur FU is the red colour one? happen to park at bukit panjang on thurs?

nope my sp is original paintwork one. and bukit panjang is the next end of sg to where i stay .i stay at tampnies.

lauze · June 23, 2006

Originally posted by flykite@Jun 23 2006, 07:41 PM
HKL has a good reputation and is a recommended place by many bikers . a few screws, your headlight thingy, small things this and that, i can get it done for free at JB also. ah jie also very nice, just that i can't buy helmet from malaysia. no hidden meaning wat i say, so take it as it's worth ok. i go for cheap and good, i don't see the need to pay more for good deals because not everything that is cheap is bad and not everything that is expensive is good.

my advice has been the same to many newbies: DON'T RUSH TO BUY A BIKE, NOT ENOUGH MONEY, WAIT LAH, SAVE ENOUGH THEN BUY. of cos u can take loan, but in the long run u end up paying more, and of cos if u are willing to kiss goodbye to more cash (in the long run) then no one is stopping u. but wat happen if one day u run tight in cash and can't pay installment? borrow? steal? or let them repossess your bike?

touch wood if u skid or buang, then no money to repair bike, how? still have to pay off your installment u know, on top of the repair. if u can't afford repair leh?? and don't forget that if ur bike kena stolen or declare total lost and can't claim insurance, this loan can put u in a situation where u got no bike but still have to pay for your installment. bikes can bring u into debt too ok, especially those still studying and do not have a steady source of income.

my opinion has always been not to let the bike (and its loans, if applicable) become a liability to u. loans are a financial liability (if u understand wat that term means). to me, a bike is suppose to make my life easier by providing for a source of reliable cheap and convenient transport. if i have to worry about it day in day out or have to bring to motordiam three times a week for checkup, then i'd rather not ride that bike. u get wat i mean? this is my opinion, not even worth 2cents

to each his own, fnee, upz for your 2cents

sorry, nt tat i wanna ruin HKL reputation but nt nice things occur to me n my fren. No doubt HKL charge slightly lesser price(in sg) but i dun like their working attitude. i find them talk big, esp ah bee n ah zheng, "Ya ya, No need scare, We HKL very famous for gd service". but when i bought my bike at HKL (i totally know nuts tat time), they promised to do full service n check my bike for me, as my main concern was safety like brakes. i dun like buang on the 1st mth, nt gd omen for me. in the end u noe wad happen? my rear brake totally cannot "eat" due the no more brake skin, n the they help me wash carb n forgetting to screw back properly, in the end, oil keep leaking. i went back 3 times for tat. my fren do some service over there n they din put the oil tank properly back, when he wanna start the bike, litres of oils leak out. i mean u noe how pissed off my fren n i were? n the worst is, all this happened on different days! if let's say everything happen on the same day, we can understand as HKL is very popular, thus, they r busy. but come on, we did our bikes there during the none busy period.

*Note : i'm just speaking frm my point of view frm wad i encounter at HKL oni. the boss might b gd but u go there to do ur bikes by the machanics, nt the boss. who knows 1 day i change brake oil there n the machanics make my brakes cannot "eat"? wad will happen to me? anyway, it's my personnel experience, i bet nt every1 as "lucky" as me. wad i wanna say is, choose a bike shop u're ok wif n stick to it. as the time goes by, they will charge u lesser n some minor service they will charge u FOC

lauze · June 23, 2006

Originally posted by cOngx@Jun 23 2006, 10:31 PM
nope my sp is original paintwork one. and bukit panjang is the next end of sg to where i stay .i stay at tampnies.

lol.. happen to saw 1 FU SP red on park beside me. never c b4 ma.

lauze · June 23, 2006

Originally posted by NSR^G@|^_^@Jun 23 2006, 08:19 PM
wts the diff between full svc and overhual?

the minimum different is the price! overhaul cost a few hundreds while full service cost 100 plus nia!

cOngx · June 23, 2006

Originally posted by lauze@Jun 24 2006, 01:25 AM
sorry, nt tat i wanna ruin HKL reputation but nt nice things occur to me n my fren. No doubt HKL charge slightly lesser price(in sg) but i dun like their working attitude. i find them talk big, esp ah bee n ah zheng, "Ya ya, No need scare, We HKL very famous for gd service". but when i bought my bike at HKL (i totally know nuts tat time), they promised to do full service n check my bike for me, as my main concern was safety like brakes. i dun like buang on the 1st mth, nt gd omen for me. in the end u noe wad happen? my rear brake totally cannot "eat" due the no more brake skin, n the they help me wash carb n forgetting to screw back properly, in the end, oil keep leaking. i went back 3 times for tat. my fren do some service over there n they din put the oil tank properly back, when he wanna start the bike, litres of oils leak out. i mean u noe how pissed off my fren n i were? n the worst is, all this happened on different days! if let's say everything happen on the same day, we can understand as HKL is very popular, thus, they r busy. but come on, we did our bikes there during the none busy period.

*Note : i'm just speaking frm my point of view frm wad i encounter at HKL oni. the boss might b gd but u go there to do ur bikes by the machanics, nt the boss. who knows 1 day i change brake oil there n the machanics make my brakes cannot "eat"? wad will happen to me? anyway, it's my personnel experience, i bet nt every1 as "lucky" as me. wad i wanna say is, choose a bike shop u're ok wif n stick to it. as the time goes by, they will charge u lesser n some minor service they will charge u FOC

same experience to me they nv put the fuel intake thing properly it was switched to off and i didn't know. so after change spark pluck and engine oil i ride my bike out and the thing stalled and i cannot start again. i tot what sia service already spoil then i call my bro he ask me to switch it to on. upon switch on all the petrol fly come out.(my synergy 8000 @ 1.917 per L) in the end i got to push back my bike sia! all the way from the oneway exit at the STOP signboard back to HKL so pai sei sia.

but i think people tend to forget small things easily like sometimes u can forget what u want to say and they too forget about it. they are like in a hurry and have so many to do small things can miss out just not drain engine oil and not put engine oil inside la. this type of thing cannot 4get one.

jeffrey83 · June 23, 2006

sianz la.. i think my chian not doing well le.. had been tightening for a few times since i got my bike since late last year..

Past few days, realised that it got sound.... when i slow down or do engine braking.. any intro wat to do to..?

lauze · June 23, 2006

Originally posted by cOngx@Jun 24 2006, 02:15 AM
same experience to me they nv put the fuel intake thing properly it was switched to off and i didn't know. so after change spark pluck and engine oil i ride my bike out and the thing stalled and i cannot start again. i tot what sia service already spoil then i call my bro he ask me to switch it to on. upon switch on all the petrol fly come out.(my synergy 8000 @ 1.917 per L) in the end i got to push back my bike sia! all the way from the oneway exit at the STOP signboard back to HKL so pai sei sia.

but i think people tend to forget small things easily like sometimes u can forget what u want to say and they too forget about it. they are like in a hurry and have so many to do small things can miss out just not drain engine oil and not put engine oil inside la. this type of thing cannot 4get one.

agree. i went to some other popular bike shops, they oso never like tis. who dunno they r busy, whu dun wan to b fast? i doubt any1 likes to sit at bike shop for hrs. but they dun do things fast wif precise. i went to other bike shops they do things quite fast but my bike nth happen, nt a single nut was left behind at the shop.

lauze · June 23, 2006

Originally posted by jeffrey83@Jun 24 2006, 03:54 AM
sianz la.. i think my chian not doing well le.. had been tightening for a few times since i got my bike since late last year..

Past few days, realised that it got sound.... when i slow down or do engine braking.. any intro wat to do to..?

i tink u need to change a chain. a mechanic told me if ur chain tighten liao but keep on having sound or loose, then it's abt time to change. of cos, the chain can still b tighten but it will loose after awhile. someday it might broke, which my fren riding krr kana on AYE. swingarm, spocket n tail fairing kana damage by the chain.

fnee · June 23, 2006

Originally posted by flykite@Jun 23 2006, 07:41 PM
HKL has a good reputation and is a recommended place by many bikers . a few screws, your headlight thingy, small things this and that, i can get it done for free at JB also. ah jie also very nice, just that i can't buy helmet from malaysia. no hidden meaning wat i say, so take it as it's worth ok. i go for cheap and good, i don't see the need to pay more for good deals because not everything that is cheap is bad and not everything that is expensive is good.

my advice has been the same to many newbies: DON'T RUSH TO BUY A BIKE, NOT ENOUGH MONEY, WAIT LAH, SAVE ENOUGH THEN BUY. of cos u can take loan, but in the long run u end up paying more, and of cos if u are willing to kiss goodbye to more cash (in the long run) then no one is stopping u. but wat happen if one day u run tight in cash and can't pay installment? borrow? steal? or let them repossess your bike?

touch wood if u skid or buang, then no money to repair bike, how? still have to pay off your installment u know, on top of the repair. if u can't afford repair leh?? and don't forget that if ur bike kena stolen or declare total lost and can't claim insurance, this loan can put u in a situation where u got no bike but still have to pay for your installment. bikes can bring u into debt too ok, especially those still studying and do not have a steady source of income.

my opinion has always been not to let the bike (and its loans, if applicable) become a liability to u. loans are a financial liability (if u understand wat that term means). to me, a bike is suppose to make my life easier by providing for a source of reliable cheap and convenient transport. if i have to worry about it day in day out or have to bring to motordiam three times a week for checkup, then i'd rather not ride that bike. u get wat i mean? this is my opinion, not even worth 2cents

to each his own, fnee, upz for your 2cents

of course if you were to take a loan from a bikeshop, one would have to do proper financial planning beforehand. a student (like me) would have to see how much he earns a month (if he's working parttime), how much his parents are willing to give him for allowance, how much would he be spending on installment, petrol and maintanance. if you don't have any income, and you survive on $50 a week allowance from your parents, of course you can't buy a bike and expect to pay the monthly installments.

JB is not near, neither is it far. but running to JB just to replace a few screws? just to tighten your chain? just to change EO? isn't it a hassel? getting stuck in the jam, risk getting robbed, risk falling into the holes on the road. all these just to save a few dollars? to me, it's not worth it IMO.

your put forward alot of negative situations, like wise, my above paragraph is what a pessmist would write. there are always risks we must take, there are no sure fail proof thing in this world.

lauze, cOngx: there are no motorshops which no one has a bad experience with. every shop has their unsatisfied customers. depends on your luck i guess

ChEnZ · June 23, 2006

Originally posted by NSR^G@|^_^@Jun 23 2006, 08:40 PM
i juz received my summon letter..so tml go and appeal..can right??they fine me $100=(

Print out a copy of your appeal letter, make sure you leave your particulars on the letter too. Most probably they will ask you to see Dr. Amy Khor on the upcoming monday evening. Good luck.

flykite · June 24, 2006

Originally posted by fnee@Jun 24 2006, 05:00 AM
of course if you were to take a loan from a bikeshop, one would have to do proper financial planning beforehand. a student (like me) would have to see how much he earns a month (if he's working parttime), how much his parents are willing to give him for allowance, how much would he be spending on installment, petrol and maintanance. if you don't have any income, and you survive on $50 a week allowance from your parents, of course you can't buy a bike and expect to pay the monthly installments.

JB is not near, neither is it far. but running to JB just to replace a few screws? just to tighten your chain? just to change EO? isn't it a hassel? getting stuck in the jam, risk getting robbed, risk falling into the holes on the road. all these just to save a few dollars? to me, it's not worth it IMO.

your put forward alot of negative situations, like wise, my above paragraph is what a pessmist would write. there are always risks we must take, there are no sure fail proof thing in this world.

lauze, cOngx: there are no motorshops which no one has a bad experience with. every shop has their unsatisfied customers. depends on your luck i guess

to each his own, upz

i'm after cost savings and convenience, i'd rather take my chances for cheap stuffs across the border, and truthfully speaking, JB is not that far and if u know when exactly to go, u can beat the jam and not get robbed. it's about the timing and street-smartness i guess??

and this kind of thing i prefer to look pessimistic abit, cos i'd rather be prepared when such bad things happen, rather than be optimistic and get caught off-handed. i used to think optimistically until a bad thing happened (in singapore, not JB) and nearly put me to debt even though i had standby about S$800. fortunately i had that money on standby, otherwise i would have gone into debt.

you are right on that part where a student (like u) have to do proper financial planning before buying a bike. but few really do it up well. most pple rush to buy a bike once their monthly income comes close or just pars with the monthly expenditure of maintaining a bike. correct me if i am wrong. i would like to advise students to think carefully. u can't work part time forever. during hols, yes, how about exam time? if ur parents don't help u, then u are screwed liao. i mean, not like me and some of us here, we're working and we got the bucks to spare u know.

if u don't know wat i mean here i give u an example. for instance i earn 1500 a month and i know obviously i can afford a car by doing full loan for seven years. so am i going to buy a car? well i can, but im going to pay thru my nose for the seven years and wat if i get retrenched halfway? in the same fashion, students and those in NS must think in the same way ok?

only good advices, no discouragement. plan properly and think far ahead. all the best to future bike owners.

flykite · June 24, 2006

i will not comment on HKL service cos i never went there to do anything before. ever since i got chopped once in singapore, i've never done anything for my bike in singapore anymore, except buy bt39ss cos JB don't have. if i said it's good it's becos many bikers recommend. ok?

sorry for the misunderstanding, pls don't fight over it ok?

raden · June 24, 2006

hye to ALL

%%%%%

sorri to disturb in this SP forum...I just keen to know wat is the top speed for this bike before MOD???

Anybody can help???

thanks>>>

ravenSP · June 24, 2006

guys, lets just assume that everyone CAN afford paying installments when they decide to get their bike. alot of us cannot afford to pay a 1 shot payment for a bike. even if you're working, paying 1 shot very siong. yes paying by a installment plan has interest, but its a small amount considering how long you can take to pay it off.

imo, i'd rather pay installments over a few years than stress myself by paying for a bike in full or making a high downpayment (but cannot too little also la). bo lui lah no choice, and i always believe in getting what i like if i can afford it rather than getting something cheaper and not liking it. true i have to pay more interest, but if its spread over a few years, i will have extra money in hand to spend instead of paying all my money to the downpayment and not having money for a 'rainy' day.

of course, this ONLY applies to the bikes (namely the nsr150 or something thats close) i assume you guys want to buy, for a few thousand dollars, the interest wont be very high also. but actually i know of some people who downpay 1-2k for a 24k litrebike. they pay through their asses every month. it actually depends on the individual, if they want to tie themselves down that much or not for a bike they want. think for yourselves guys/gals, wana get tied down by a bike? if you can afford it and want it very badly, why not? but remember you NEED to have some extras just in case (i seem to be repeating myself here, but i want to emphasize it).

i hope this is just a friendly discussion yes?

my 2c

raden · June 24, 2006

Originally posted by ravenSP@Jun 24 2006, 09:10 AM
guys, lets just assume that everyone CAN afford paying installments when they decide to get their bike. alot of us cannot afford to pay a 1 shot payment for a bike. even if you're working, paying 1 shot very siong. yes paying by a installment plan has interest, but its a small amount considering how long you can take to pay it off.

imo, i'd rather pay installments over a few years than stress myself by paying for a bike in full or making a high downpayment (but cannot too little also la). bo lui lah no choice, and i always believe in getting what i like if i can afford it rather than getting something cheaper and not liking it. true i have to pay more interest, but if its spread over a few years, i will have extra money in hand to spend instead of paying all my money to the downpayment and not having money for a 'rainy' day.

of course, this ONLY applies to the bikes (namely the nsr150 or something thats close) i assume you guys want to buy, for a few thousand dollars, the interest wont be very high also. but actually i know of some people who downpay 1-2k for a 24k litrebike. they pay through their asses every month. it actually depends on the individual, if they want to tie themselves down that much or not for a bike they want. think for yourselves guys/gals, wana get tied down by a bike? if you can afford it and want it very badly, why not? but remember you NEED to have some extras just in case (i seem to be repeating myself here, but i want to emphasize it).

i hope this is just a friendly discussion yes?

my 2c

u know the top speed of this bike????

fnee · June 24, 2006

Originally posted by raden@Jun 24 2006, 09:42 AM
u know the top speed of this bike????

the top speed is in proportion to the size of your balls

the newest SP are already 3+years plus old. maybe back then it'll be able to hit 210, 220? nowadays.. probably 200, 190.. and the meter is inaccurate. (: so actual speed may be 180, 170? so fast for what anyway. haha.

flykite: yeap, it's all about planning. you wanna get carrot, by all means go ahead as long as you can pay the monthly installment and take it as a lesson. lol. SP is honestly not a problem bike. problems can be solved cheaply at JB (engine wise. eg. overhaul and servicing). i actually wanted an Aprilia RS125. but.. $300 for a top overhaul? i can't afford that now. and considering the reliablity of that bike too.. haha. so yes, planning, do proper planning and you'll be safe (:

raden · June 24, 2006

Originally posted by fnee@Jun 24 2006, 10:44 AM
the top speed is in proportion to the size of your balls

the newest SP are already 3+years plus old. maybe back then it'll be able to hit 210, 220? nowadays.. probably 200, 190.. and the meter is inaccurate. (: so actual speed may be 180, 170? so fast for what anyway. haha.

thanks bro....i just wanna know the top speed only bro...maybe i try to get one as soon as when my bike get SOLD later....now still looking for buyers.

how about the maint of the bike??? izzit exp???

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