Self Spray

[Guest motofreak]

Personally i wun go for pylox. Shld have gone for RJ's. I dun reccomend another layer of anything unless u remove the old paint. Even clearcoat over it would cause everything to melt off. Its like using paint remover.

[ultimax]

Originally posted by hotdog81@Apr 16 2005, 02:32 AM

hi there...i DIY painted my bike last month. i used pylox spraypaint and pylox clear coat. it seems like now the clear coat is starting to melt. can anyone advise me on what should i do? thanks.

 

i know the only sollution is to redo everything but what i need to know is what laquer or clear coat is best for our bikes. thanks again.

1. sand the surface down slightly with 2000 grit sandpaper and water until it becomes dull and smooth.

 

2. spray with RJ London lacquer.

[hotdog81]

Originally posted by ultimax@Apr 16 2005, 10:44 AM

1. sand the surface down slightly with 2000 grit sandpaper and water until it becomes dull and smooth.

 

2. spray with RJ London lacquer.

thanks bro...anyway will the rj london laquer melt in time? and which shops sell them?

[ultimax]

Originally posted by hotdog81@Apr 16 2005, 02:19 PM

thanks bro...anyway will the rj london laquer melt in time? and which shops sell them?

To be honest, I'm not sure. It's been about 4 months since I sprayed my bike and the lacquer hasn't deteriorated at all. It's still as smooth and glossy as it was 4 months ago. However, I wax my bike regularly, and it's parked in a covered carpark so that might explain why the lacquer's still in good condition. Others have had problems with the lacquer deteriorating with time. Thus, I can't give you a good, conclusive answer.

 

I suppose you can't really expect that much from a $4 can of paint

 

You can buy RJ paints from the hardwareshop at Mayo Street (or Dunlop street, cant remember). $4 a can. Or just visit several hardware shops...RJ paints are as easily available as Nippon Pylox.

[hotdog81]

Originally posted by ultimax@Apr 16 2005, 05:33 PM

To be honest, I'm not sure. It's been about 4 months since I sprayed my bike and the lacquer hasn't deteriorated at all. It's still as smooth and glossy as it was 4 months ago. However, I wax my bike regularly, and it's parked in a covered carpark so that might explain why the lacquer's still in good condition. Others have had problems with the lacquer deteriorating with time. Thus, I can't give you a good, conclusive answer.

 

I suppose you can't really expect that much from a $4 can of paint

 

You can buy RJ paints from the hardwareshop at Mayo Street (or Dunlop street, cant remember). $4 a can. Or just visit several hardware shops...RJ paints are as easily available as Nippon Pylox.

ok...i'll try the rj london lacquer. anyway i got 1 more question...i've heard bout this spray called grey primer what does it do actually? remove scratches?

[ultimax]

Originally posted by hotdog81@Apr 16 2005, 06:19 PM

ok...i'll try the rj london lacquer. anyway i got 1 more question...i've heard bout this spray called grey primer what does it do actually? remove scratches?

it acts a a base coat for the colour coat. With it, paint will adhere better to the surface, thus last longer. Has nothing to do with scratch removal!

[RxzDelux]

What a nice yellow Y125Z u hav! :lovestruck: Was wondering will the paintwork crack if heated in the hot sun for too long?

[desewer]

Originally posted by RxzDelux@Apr 16 2005, 08:07 PM

What a nice yellow Y125Z u hav! :lovestruck: Was wondering will the paintwork crack if heated in the hot sun for too long?

Are you referring to mine?

[ozzarhomb]

Originally posted by ultimax@Apr 16 2005, 07:47 PM

it acts a a base coat for the colour coat. With it, paint will adhere better to the surface, thus last longer. Has nothing to do with scratch removal!

Rj does sell spray primer? i visited a few hardware shops and they didn't have it so i was kinda lost man. so where can i find RJ primer? tt shop at dunlop street? any more specific directions? shop name?

[ultimax]

Originally posted by ozzarhomb@Apr 16 2005, 10:31 PM

Rj does sell spray primer? i visited a few hardware shops and they didn't have it so i was kinda lost man. so where can i find RJ primer? tt shop at dunlop street? any more specific directions? shop name?

Yes, RJ sells spray primer. It's labelled "Primer Grey".

 

Sorry, I really can't remember if the shop's on Dunlop or Mayo Street. It's at the corner, the first shop you'll see as you turn in from Jln Besar. Dunlop and Mayo Streets run parallel to each so you can check both streets out.

[RxzDelux]

Originally posted by desewer@Apr 16 2005, 08:14 PM

Are you referring to mine?

Yeap yours. Very nice. Was wondering if the paintwork can last a long time in the hot sun?

[yappiez]

self spray is not reccomended cos most of the time you cannot get an even spray on your back. its best to ask ur fren to spray your back for u.

[Guest motofreak]

Originally posted by yappiez@Apr 17 2005, 12:21 AM

self spray is not reccomended cos most of the time you cannot get an even spray on your back. its best to ask ur fren to spray your back for u.

[ozzarhomb]

Originally posted by yappiez@Apr 17 2005, 12:21 AM

self spray is not reccomended cos most of the time you cannot get an even spray on your back. its best to ask ur fren to spray your back for u.

spray wat sia? ha :confused:

[joeflizzow17]

Originally posted by ozzarhomb@Apr 17 2005, 07:34 PM

spray wat sia? ha :confused:

spray ur back??ur backside izzit...

just joking guys..

[eFzek17]

got questions for the pros DIY.. hehe.. i wanna spray matt black colour to ma bike. so wats like the procedure to spray it. kos mine no tank. WaveR. i see those sandpaper at hardware stores, can buy anyhow one issit. kos some fine some very rough.. n do i nd to lacquer for matt black?

[ultimax]

Originally posted by dxruzty_@Apr 27 2005, 05:49 PM

got questions for the pros DIY.. hehe.. i wanna spray matt black colour to ma bike. so wats like the procedure to spray it. kos mine no tank. WaveR. i see those sandpaper at hardware stores, can buy anyhow one issit. kos some fine some very rough.. n do i nd to lacquer for matt black?

Just use 400-600 grit sandpaper. As the finish will be matt, you won't have to worry about the surface being completely smooth. Just roughen it up, and clean it thoroughly.

 

Use matt black paint, as well as RJ's dull lacquer. Make sure it's "dull", not regular (which is glossy). Also, don't forget to use primer!

 

Good luck!

[eFzek17]

Originally posted by ultimax@Apr 27 2005, 10:54 PM

Just use 400-600 grit sandpaper. As the finish will be matt, you won't have to worry about the surface being completely smooth. Just roughen it up, and clean it thoroughly.

 

Use matt black paint, as well as RJ's dull lacquer. Make sure it's "dull", not regular (which is glossy). Also, don't forget to use primer!

 

Good luck!

bro. wat is primer? and when should i use it??

[ultimax]

Originally posted by dxruzty_@Apr 28 2005, 08:39 PM

bro. wat is primer? and when should i use it??

Primer = undercoat. You spray it onto the surface you're about to paint. It helps the paint adhere to the surface better.

 

So the procedure is as follows:

 

1. Sand surface

2. Clean it thoroughly

3. Spray primer. Let dry.

4. Spray colour coat. Let dry.

5. Spray dull laquer. Let dry.

[eFzek17]

Originally posted by ultimax@Apr 28 2005, 08:46 PM

Primer = undercoat. You spray it onto the surface you're about to paint. It helps the paint adhere to the surface better.

 

So the procedure is as follows:

 

1. Sand surface

2. Clean it thoroughly

3. Spray primer. Let dry.

4. Spray colour coat. Let dry.

5. Spray dull laquer. Let dry.

the primer how many layers? the primer must buy how many cans? how much each? just know about this primer thing. btw thanks for yer reply bro

[ultimax]

Originally posted by dxruzty_@Apr 28 2005, 09:26 PM

the primer how many layers? the primer must buy how many cans? how much each? just know about this primer thing. btw thanks for yer reply bro

1. 3 layers should be enough.

2. I don't know how big your bike is so I can't say. 2 should be plenty. Maybe 3?

3. Each can's $4.

[funkymunky84]

Originally posted by ultimax@Apr 28 2005, 08:46 PM

Primer = undercoat. You spray it onto the surface you're about to paint. It helps the paint adhere to the surface better.

 

So the procedure is as follows:

 

1. Sand surface

2. Clean it thoroughly

3. Spray primer. Let dry.

4. Spray colour coat. Let dry.

5. Spray dull laquer. Let dry.

er... hello

hi ultimax... just wanna chck with ya

lets say i'm diy spraying my SP fairings..

there are some uneven surfaces

so... the correct course of actions i shud take are...

 

1. Sand surface

2. Clean it thoroughly

3. Apply putty to even tiny grooves or scratches? (help me here. this is a must isnt it?)

4. Sand again to smoothen surface.

5. Spray primer. Let dry.

6. Spray colour coat. Let dry.

7. Spray laquer. Let dry.

 

and oh, if i HAVE to use putty, i can use epoxy putty can i?

and where wud i be able to get this thing? IMM diy store perhaps?

any idea what the costs are like?

 

thank u v much

[ultimax]

Originally posted by funkymunky84@May 3 2005, 03:26 PM

er... hello

hi ultimax... just wanna chck with ya

lets say i'm diy spraying my SP fairings..

there are some uneven surfaces

so... the correct course of actions i shud take are...

 

1. Sand surface

2. Clean it thoroughly

3. Apply putty to even tiny grooves or scratches? (help me here. this is a must isnt it?)

4. Sand again to smoothen surface.

5. Spray primer. Let dry.

6. Spray colour coat. Let dry.

7. Spray laquer. Let dry.

 

and oh, if i HAVE to use putty, i can use epoxy putty can i?

and where wud i be able to get this thing? IMM diy store perhaps?

any idea what the costs are like?

 

thank u v much

hey!

 

To be honest, i don't have that much experience with plastic fairings. Most of my bike parts are made of metal so I never had to fill anything up. I personally wouldn't bother using putty unless the plastic was severely damaged...or if it had a hole, or holes in it.

 

For scratches, i'd try to sand them out. start sanding with 600 grit sandpaper all the way up to 2000 grit, with lots of water. then paint. that technique usually works quite well.

 

Epoxy putty is fine. Avoid woodfiller for obvious reasons

[Guest kenky ken]

any 1 know how to remove paint on the wind screen

[ultimax]

Originally posted by ah ken@May 3 2005, 11:26 PM

any 1 know how to remove paint on the wind screen

that's tricky. If you use thinner, the paint will probably come off, but the plastic may fog up.

 

I suppose try applying some thinner to a corner of your windscreen's that's out of sight. Make sure you rub it in to simulate you cleaning paint off the surface. if it fogs up, then suck thumb....paint can't be removed i'm afraid. If the plastic doesn't fog up, then go ahead, remove the paint wsith thinner.

 

Other solvents that may work:

 

1. Lighter fluid