Scottoiler or manually lube?

[tom_fiz]

Is it recommended for super 4 to install Scottoiler? Most bikers installed but i noted that they have problem due to no oil drip to their chain. Is it true? What is the best way to lube our chains? With scotteoiler or manually? Tot of install it at HKL. They quote $185 with installation. Is it too high or reasonable?

[flykite]

scottoiler have problem?? first time i heard of this no oil drip thingy. probably the vaccuum tube is not plugged in properly. mine's working pretty fine though.

 

NB: scottoiler alone is not sufficient as a total chain lub solution, even at the fastest flow rate. you still need to lub your chain periodically, though maybe not as often as if you didn't have the scottoiler installed.

 

The use of the scottoiler, combined with the occasional chain lub, will ensure your chain lasts twice as long as if it had done without the scottoiler. $185 w/installation is standard price quoted by Hodaka Motoworld, exclusive distributor of scottoiler in singapore and malaysia.

 

think about it, the money spent on a scottoiler will be realised in terms of cost savings in two chain changes. and not only that, you can always transfer the scottoiler to your new bike, or sell your scottoiler if you decide to quit riding, so you still get some money back at the end of the day.

 

so why not?

[tom_fiz]

Thought of installing it 2moro. So $185 should not be a problem rite.? Thanks for the advice flykite.

[flykite]

you're welcome.

 

just fyi, using a scottoiler will create a bit more dirt on the rims due to the oil being splattered but it can be easily cleaned away.

[tom_fiz]

Like you say earlier on, scottoiler alone is not sufficient as a total chain lub solution, what the best chain lube that can mix with scottioler lube?

[Pplater]

Weird leh.. You the second person i heard say Scott Oiler alone is not enough. If use Scottoiler not enough as a chain lube solution, i think might as well dun use right? No point. Just manual lube periodically and more often settled.

 

For me its enough. The maximum setting really wets the chain. I leave it at 5 or 6. Some people i know leave it at 2 or 3 and they say its enough. Once in a while i blast max for 1 or 2 rides or a day to wet the chain, and then switch back to 5 or 6. I have run more than 10000km on my current DID O Ring chain without any need for tightening chain.

 

A word of caution, if you wash bike at Gelang Petah or elsewhere, please tell them not to use chemical or keroscene to wash the chain. It will cause the O ring inside the chain to be stripped of oil and damage the rubber parts inside. I washed twice 2 weekends in a row previously and thats how my previous chain spoiled. If you go off road and the chain is filled with mud, at most just use soap. Hope it helps.

 

Oh ya, can get the dual injector for $50 at motoworld. Single side injector is enough to maintain chain, but for dry chain, not enough to wet the other side completely.

[tom_fiz]

10000km DID O Ring without tightening? Thats Cool! So if im about to get the dual injector, it best to install at motorworld rite or HKL should have the dual injector?

[flykite]

the dual injector is abit tricky. the pressure within each tube must be balanced otherwise the oil will come out from one side only. i took my dual injectors apart to DIY but in the end i still can't balance the pressure so the oil is coming out from one tube only. but for me its quite ok i just alternate the tubes on a weekly basis so that both sides get the oil. a new dual injector should work fine until one of the tubes get clogged up.

 

my RK X-ring has done 15,000km and tightened only once cos is after a track session. usually i on my scottoiler to 6-7 and can really see that there is the red oil all over the chain and the spocket and also over the rims but i still feel that it is quite dry due to the loud chain sound. when i do a manual chain lube, the sound goes away for two weeks. without the scottoiler the irritating chain sound comes back in four days.

 

scottoiler is to enhance the lubrication process and increase the chain life by providing a constant source of oil flow when the chain is running. unlike manual lube chain even if done more frequently, you still cannot get the effect of having oil drops on the chain while riding. remember that scottoiler is an enhancement to complement the existing manual chain lube system and is not meant to be a replacement.

 

you can use the original red scottoil or engine oil to your preference but the scottoil being much stickier will not splatter all over the place while engine oil doesn't really stick to the chain and as a result it get splatter all over the place. but pls do not spray chain lube into the scottoiler and hoping it will dispense out the chain lube.

 

all in all, the end result it help you double your chain life, you can realise the cost of the scottoiler in two chain changes and if you think after using the scottoiler it sucks you can always put on garage sales and get some money back. if it is good you can continue using it even if you change bike so really no much harm in my opinion other than the initial damage of $185 to your pocket.

 

2c

[PaLmEr]

i only had to adjust my DID chain ever so slightly after 20 odd k milage with scottoiler. One important thing to check is the underside of the swingarm if the hose is kinked, usually due to workshop rear wheel stand.

[Meat Eater]

u can go motor world install more cheaper.. ^_^

[fraggershell]

hmmm.. personal opinion is to religiously oil your chain every week. that $185 could be better well spent else where..

[jocoolseah]

look for this fellow forum guy....calyban....he does a decent DIY oiler for ard 20-25 bucks....works just like a scott oiler and oils both side....cheers

[arsonist]

i used the diy oiler from him but after a while i gave up cos the diy oiler doesnt hold well and firm as scottoiler - will be getting scottoiler soon.

[s4vtec]

Is it recommended for super 4 to install Scottoiler? Most bikers installed but i noted that they have problem due to no oil drip to their chain. Is it true? What is the best way to lube our chains? With scotteoiler or manually? Tot of install it at HKL. They quote $185 with installation. Is it too high or reasonable?

 

try MotoWorld... i saw many stock there... price wise i not sure as i nvr ask.

[Meat Eater]

Is it recommended for super 4 to install Scottoiler? Most bikers installed but i noted that they have problem due to no oil drip to their chain. Is it true? What is the best way to lube our chains? With scotteoiler or manually? Tot of install it at HKL. They quote $185 with installation. Is it too high or reasonable?

 

INstall at Motor world they will give u some discount de comfirm less dan $185:angel:

[pufferfish_76]

scottoiler oiler is good for the chain .. my chain has been use for 14mth and is still very good .. only need to change the fornt spocket . i install at $170 . but long time ago liao ..

[DVD]

i used the diy oiler from him but after a while i gave up cos the diy oiler doesnt hold well and firm as scottoiler - will be getting scottoiler soon.

 

Why not we pool everyone who is interested and we go down together to install it at a cheaper price?

[s4vtec]

Why not we pool everyone who is interested and we go down together to install it at a cheaper price?

 

i dun think MotoWorld will entertain tat...

 

i do have plans to get myself a scottoiler but not so soon...

[Pplater]

I really dun understand why still must lube chain manually when using scott oiler leh. If the flow rate insufficient, just increase the flow rate? Are you setting the flow rate at 10 and finding your chain dry? If you set to max and find that your chain life is not as long as other people, I would agree its not sufficient then. Once in a while i give it max flow rate to wet the chain. So my 10000km of harsh use on the chain still dun need tightening. My kinda use is suka suka whack the bike in first gear (sometimes powercut kick in), usually whack second gear, a lot of hard acceleration 0 to 80 or 90 every other ride. 3 track sessions so far, plenty of riding above 140 or 150 on NSH, and if go pump petrol got chance sure clear meter. Sometimes i wonder how come my chain still dun need tighten when i whack the bike until like that.

 

The double tip one ah.. you put to max setting, wait about 30 seconds to 60 seconds should be able to see whether both side dripping.

 

My opinion of scottoiler is that since it is a product to make lubraicating the chain hassle free, it really has to be hassle free. If paying so much $$$ for it and you still have to maually lube the chain, then like what some other riders say also, just manual la. Me lazy lol...

[tom_fiz]

Btw, what chain and spocket you using Pplater? If install at super4, where do they place the scottoiler system?

[Pplater]

Btw, what chain and spocket you using Pplater? If install at super4, where do they place the scottoiler system?

 

After my previous chain spoil due to bike wash at GP where they use chemical to wash chain, i switched to DID O ring. NOt that i wanted O ring, but my regular mech shop ran out of X ring.

 

Sprockets did not change, should be Honda stock one.

 

The scottoiler reservoir is placed under the bike seat for all bikes for the simple reason that placing it outside the bike means people will rip if off in no time. S4 got a lot of space under bike. If you want to keep raincoat under bike seat, have the scott oiler placed at the space under pillion seat lo.

[silversurfer2012]

Just got my scottoiler fixed, so far so good.

Although the initial damage was $180, im sure it will pays for itself.

[levin]

Do we still need to regulary clean the chain when using scottoiler as I believe the dirty oil will be fling off, so no need right?

[flykite]

i think pplater is just lazy to lub chain rite

 

anyway a loud moving chain sound is good telltale sign that the chain is dry. even though we may on the scottoiler to 10 (full blast), however it is still only one drop of oil every six seconds and i don't know where it will land on the chain and also don't know how much of it will be flung away. what i can be sure of is that some of the oil will reach the chain and this amount is not enough for the whole chain, which i believe manual lube is still needed.

 

i will stand by what i said, that the scottoiler intended as a replacement of the manual lube system in reality is just an enhancement. without the scottoiler i can hear the chain sound after 4 -5 days but with the scottoiler i'd hear the sound only after two weeks. so far my scottoiler has been doing well, i've done 14,000km on this chain and so far tightened only once. i admit sometimes im really lazy to manual lube chain and the scottoiler is just an excuse to myself but not forgetting that i've never washed my chain, only continuing to lube and lube and i think it's kind of very impressive for the scottoiler to be able to help you chalk up additional mileage on your chain and thus prolonging its useful life.

 

so much for that.

for s4, the scottoiler is usually placed under the seat, but do note that in the future when you need to replace battery, you will have to temporarily remove the scottoiler because it will be in the way.

[Pplater]

i think pplater is just lazy to lub chain rite

 

Correct!! Hahaha... If i had a main stand.. I will be like you and manually lube once in a while. But mine Vtech 1 so main stand out of the question n i too lazy liao. I would agree with you that manually lubing the chain is a good thing to do. Having encouraged others to blast max scottoiler settings once in a while, I must also give a warning that if you do that, you must monitor whether any oil splatters onto the sidewall of your tyres. I once had some splatter beyond the side wall and onto the edge of the tyres. Dangerous stuff.. Do check them and wash your tyres (parts that kenna oil) for safety's sake.

 

Having said all this, i have an observation to share with fellow scoot oiler users who tour in MY n thailand often. I notice my scottoiler doesn't seem to work well when travelling at high speed along NSH. I suspect the splatter is much more when travelling above 100km/h, because when i cover more than 1000km in 2 or 3 days (typical tours to Cameroon/Genting etc), it seems the chain appears dryer rather than wetter, although half my scottoiler reservoir is emptied. If go all the way to say Betong or hatyai lagi worse, the chain like long long never lube like that. But for mixed city and expressway riding in S'pore it seems fine. So i suspect it works better in city traffic. Anyone notice dry chains on long trips?