modify ur bike with turbo charger? Possible!

[Guest takashigin]

modify ur bike with turbo charger? Are you interested? Pls view this

 

http://takashigin.tripod.com/

[Strong Eagle]

Possible but hard to do what with the need to re-route both exhaust and intake pipes.

 

Turbochargers also suffer from lag, that is, it takes them a while to wind up, so you don't get any real 'oomph' off the line... good for producing more power once the RPM's are up and the turbocharger is spinning.

 

Superchargers (belt or gear driven) are more commonly used on MC's. No need to re-route pipes, near instantaneous boost.

 

To do a charger of any kind properly, you may need to harden pistons and rods to cope with higher pressures. Boost has to be limited. Several Valkyrie owners have added superchargers. Power goes from about 100 to 140 HP. But many have also reported engine damage in the form of burned and holed pistions, broken connecting rods.

[myxilplix]

Did someone say turbo? I posted this in the 10r discussion thread.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00ion0E_nQo

[jytheorem]

Superchargers are much easier to accomplish on bikes.

[ost28]

hmm ... if turbos and superchargers can give so much boost.. y dun racers use them in moto gp or grand prix ?

too powerfull ?

[shahrul_azmil3]

yup too powerful ....

 

it's only meant for the straight rds .....

[ehem]

hmm ... if turbos and superchargers can give so much boost.. y dun racers use them in moto gp or grand prix ?

too powerfull ?

 

well there are rules and regulations that doesnt allow the use of turbos and superchargers.. as with turbo, power is harder to control on 2 wheels rather than 4 wheels. Cars dont wheelie..

[Guest takashigin]

Superchargers are much easier to accomplish on bikes.

 

what size of supercharger do ur guy ever see someone modify in the bike engine?

[Guest takashigin]

Possible but hard to do what with the need to re-route both exhaust and intake pipes.

 

Turbochargers also suffer from lag, that is, it takes them a while to wind up, so you don't get any real 'oomph' off the line... good for producing more power once the RPM's are up and the turbocharger is spinning.

 

Superchargers (belt or gear driven) are more commonly used on MC's. No need to re-route pipes, near instantaneous boost.

 

To do a charger of any kind properly, you may need to harden pistons and rods to cope with higher pressures. Boost has to be limited. Several Valkyrie owners have added superchargers. Power goes from about 100 to 140 HP. But many have also reported engine damage in the form of burned and holed pistions, broken connecting rods.

 

use variable fins type turbochager can help to prevent less turbo lag

[darren_soh86]

nowadays new class2 sportsbike with their NA engines can already throw u off ur ass liao.. 300km/h? still not enuff?

 

besides with all the reinforcements u haf to do to the engine for it to take the additional load... it juz aint worth it.. juz get a new class2..

[Guest takashigin]

nowadays new class2 sportsbike with their NA engines can already throw u off ur ass liao.. 300km/h? still not enuff?

 

besides with all the reinforcements u haf to do to the engine for it to take the additional load... it juz aint worth it.. juz get a new class2..

 

 

yeah stock bike is fast enough..... truly. it is different kinda of feeling of riding

[ost28]

well there are rules and regulations that doesnt allow the use of turbos and superchargers.. as with turbo, power is harder to control on 2 wheels rather than 4 wheels. Cars dont wheelie..

 

hmm .. regarding the cars dun wheelie part

think u are wrong

monster truck ya?

and i have seen on youtube this guy with an old moded up mini cooper i think ..

he did wheelies when accelerating and stoppies when he brake

its was for a competition

its was crazy

lolz

[gabriel06]

well there are rules and regulations that doesnt allow the use of turbos and superchargers.. as with turbo, power is harder to control on 2 wheels rather than 4 wheels. Cars dont wheelie..

 

are u sure cars dont wheelie? bet u havent seen a drag race b4..

[faun]

are u sure cars dont wheelie? bet u havent seen a drag race b4..

 

Driven by front shaft cant wheelie only 4x4 and rear shaft can wheelie:)

[Guest takashigin]

those drag race car in USA use customised driveline, stronger gearbox, higher axle ratio and their prerequiste of driveline must be automatic transmission which use to 2 to 3 torque convertor to multiple the power ouput. the floor at starting point is sprayed with rubber glue and burn out tyre to achieve more firmer grab of soft compund tyre on the floor:)

[Guest takashigin]

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[gabriel06]

Driven by front shaft cant wheelie only 4x4 and rear shaft can wheelie:)

 

ur stating the obvious.. everyone knows that.. its like saying a bike has 2 wheels.. vespa maybe 3.. -_-

[MS]

Possible but hard to do what with the need to re-route both exhaust and intake pipes.

 

Turbochargers also suffer from lag, that is, it takes them a while to wind up, so you don't get any real 'oomph' off the line... good for producing more power once the RPM's are up and the turbocharger is spinning.

 

Superchargers (belt or gear driven) are more commonly used on MC's. No need to re-route pipes, near instantaneous boost.

 

To do a charger of any kind properly, you may need to harden pistons and rods to cope with higher pressures. Boost has to be limited. Several Valkyrie owners have added superchargers. Power goes from about 100 to 140 HP. But many have also reported engine damage in the form of burned and holed pistions, broken connecting rods.

 

 

I strongly agree to this point. Apart from what Strong Eagle has pointed out, I must also say the following few points. Even if you have a turbocharger installed to your engine. You must also take note that a working turbo charger can be spinning even up to 15 times of your engine crankshaft RPM. In this immense speed, it is no wonder that without proper lubrication, the turbo can catch fire. A few mechanics who used to work under me lost their ricebowl due to negligence on this aspect.

 

Turbocharging and supercharging are both processes asking for the same effect. Better and more optimised scavaging efficiency. Which means a more optimised fresh air introduced into the ingine thus more fuel can be mixed with your force-fed air and give a more powerful combustion. However, one must also take note of the boost pressure of the turbo charger. The impeller which is driven by exhaust rely totally on the exhaust to proper it which in turns propels the turbine connected to the impeller to suck in more air. The mechanical efficiency will only hit optimization upon a certain pressure which means adequate exhaust being expelled to power your impeller to proper the turbine. In other words only upon a certain rpm your engine provides then will your turbo significantly start to operate productively.

At the same time, one must also take note that the turbo charger is operating by means of the exhaust. This means that the turbocharger is working under extreme temperatures. 100DegC during engine idling is nothing. A Red hot turbo charger during extreme operations is common. With such high temperatures, if you need your new found force-fed air to be optimised, the air temperature has to be well controlled. This explains why you need an intercooler. Normal intercoolers are like radiators. Force-fed across the intercooler helps to optimise the temperature for combustion in the combustion chamber.

 

With so much to consider, how do you think one can easily install a working turbocharger and increase the operating costs and risks of the engine?

 

I used to represent a workshop to deal with turbocharger suppliers. Perhaps if you all need official info, do drop by their websites.

 

Search their names under:

KKK turbochargers

Holset

 

P.S. If you want to install turbo charger, try considering RAM AIR. It is also a form of force feeding air. Build a new air route and install an air filter before leading to your throttle body. Then remember to dyno your bike before and after the modifications to see the difference and check whether it's necessary to further modify. At least lesser engineering aspects, risks and costs need to be considered when you make ram air.

[Guest takashigin]

I strongly agree to this point. Apart from what Strong Eagle has pointed out, I must also say the following few points. Even if you have a turbocharger installed to your engine. You must also take note that a working turbo charger can be spinning even up to 15 times of your engine crankshaft RPM. In this immense speed, it is no wonder that without proper lubrication, the turbo can catch fire. A few mechanics who used to work under me lost their ricebowl due to negligence on this aspect.

 

Turbocharging and supercharging are both processes asking for the same effect. Better and more optimised scavaging efficiency. Which means a more optimised fresh air introduced into the ingine thus more fuel can be mixed with your force-fed air and give a more powerful combustion. However, one must also take note of the boost pressure of the turbo charger. The impeller which is driven by exhaust rely totally on the exhaust to proper it which in turns propels the turbine connected to the impeller to suck in more air. The mechanical efficiency will only hit optimization upon a certain pressure which means adequate exhaust being expelled to power your impeller to proper the turbine. In other words only upon a certain rpm your engine provides then will your turbo significantly start to operate productively.

At the same time, one must also take note that the turbo charger is operating by means of the exhaust. This means that the turbocharger is working under extreme temperatures. 100DegC during engine idling is nothing. A Red hot turbo charger during extreme operations is common. With such high temperatures, if you need your new found force-fed air to be optimised, the air temperature has to be well controlled. This explains why you need an intercooler. Normal intercoolers are like radiators. Force-fed across the intercooler helps to optimise the temperature for combustion in the combustion chamber.

 

With so much to consider, how do you think one can easily install a working turbocharger and increase the operating costs and risks of the engine?

 

I used to represent a workshop to deal with turbocharger suppliers. Perhaps if you all need official info, do drop by their websites.

 

Search their names under:

KKK turbochargers

Holset

 

P.S. If you want to install turbo charger, try considering RAM AIR. It is also a form of force feeding air. Build a new air route and install an air filter before leading to your throttle body. Then remember to dyno your bike before and after the modifications to see the difference and check whether it's necessary to further modify. At least lesser engineering aspects, risks and costs need to be considered when you make ram air.

 

Hi MS. I strongly agree with all your points. all those prequiste step are essential to be carried out for modification. I am very glad to approach upon official info by the time we need. Thanks

 

 

All engineering work has its risk to reconsider. it's just a matter how to minimise and overcome the risk of defect.

[gabriel06]

I strongly agree to this point. Apart from what Strong Eagle has pointed out, I must also say the following few points. Even if you have a turbocharger installed to your engine. You must also take note that a working turbo charger can be spinning even up to 15 times of your engine crankshaft RPM. In this immense speed, it is no wonder that without proper lubrication, the turbo can catch fire. A few mechanics who used to work under me lost their ricebowl due to negligence on this aspect.

 

Turbocharging and supercharging are both processes asking for the same effect. Better and more optimised scavaging efficiency. Which means a more optimised fresh air introduced into the ingine thus more fuel can be mixed with your force-fed air and give a more powerful combustion. However, one must also take note of the boost pressure of the turbo charger. The impeller which is driven by exhaust rely totally on the exhaust to proper it which in turns propels the turbine connected to the impeller to suck in more air. The mechanical efficiency will only hit optimization upon a certain pressure which means adequate exhaust being expelled to power your impeller to proper the turbine. In other words only upon a certain rpm your engine provides then will your turbo significantly start to operate productively.

At the same time, one must also take note that the turbo charger is operating by means of the exhaust. This means that the turbocharger is working under extreme temperatures. 100DegC during engine idling is nothing. A Red hot turbo charger during extreme operations is common. With such high temperatures, if you need your new found force-fed air to be optimised, the air temperature has to be well controlled. This explains why you need an intercooler. Normal intercoolers are like radiators. Force-fed across the intercooler helps to optimise the temperature for combustion in the combustion chamber.

 

With so much to consider, how do you think one can easily install a working turbocharger and increase the operating costs and risks of the engine?

 

I used to represent a workshop to deal with turbocharger suppliers. Perhaps if you all need official info, do drop by their websites.

 

Search their names under:

KKK turbochargers

Holset

 

P.S. If you want to install turbo charger, try considering RAM AIR. It is also a form of force feeding air. Build a new air route and install an air filter before leading to your throttle body. Then remember to dyno your bike before and after the modifications to see the difference and check whether it's necessary to further modify. At least lesser engineering aspects, risks and costs need to be considered when you make ram air.

 

bro just a question... RAM air.. how do u prevent water from entering the combustion area past the air filter..

[MS]

bro just a question... RAM air.. how do u prevent water from entering the combustion area past the air filter..

 

If you study the ram air of the suzuki and yamaha models, the air is force fed into the air box through the air ducts designed to face the front.

 

We'll take the Yamaha R1 2004 model as a case study.

Air is induced into the air box by forward vehicle movement. Air forced into the air duct enters the air box via the air duct. Turbulance is created inside the air box with the intake of air gushing. The faster the bike moves, the more pressurized force fed air is induced into the air box. (Exactly the way turbo charger works). The air filter is designed to allow only particles that are not harmful to the combustion chamber.

 

Use the air filters available in the market from K&N or BMC as air filters. Take extra note on the direction of air flow when designing the air box and air duct. There should be only 1 flow direction. With a proper air filter, there is no chance you can be affected by water so long you do not deliberately pump water into the air ducts.

 

After a successful fabrication of the new force fed air intake system, you may need to re-fuel map your fuel injection or carburretion so as to optimize your new air to fuel mixture ratio.

 

My colleague graduated from Leeds with a masters in Automotive engineering. He's experienced in dealing with fabrication of race technology up to the F1 standard. The uni was able to support him with the required technical knowledge adequately. And famous race teams including those in the F1 series go there to scout for new recruits in their campaign. Perhaps if you're interested in this aspect, you can also contact Leeds for help in this. My knowledge is limited to my exposure. Technology is a never ending episode of knowledge expansion. I strongly encourage anyone who is interested in vehicle modification to do it correctly with the right help.

 

I have seen too many vehicle modifications done wrongly.

[JoJo]

may i noe how much is it to install on a hayabusa?

either turbo or supercharger?

jus a average ranging price.

n i heard tat bike can wheelie even at 100km/hr , 6 gear.

 

i noe notin, jus wnana clear my doubts. pls enlighthen mi

 

thks alot

[xiaowen]

hmm interesting sial.. how much to install one..

[Guest takashigin]

may i noe how much is it to install on a hayabusa?

either turbo or supercharger?

jus a average ranging price.

n i heard tat bike can wheelie even at 100km/hr , 6 gear.

 

i noe notin, jus wnana clear my doubts. pls enlighthen mi

 

thks alot

 

yeah. if you remain ur original gear sprocket rario, the bike can loss control easilly by just a slightly boost pressure. But it is recommended to change lower gear sprocket ratio at ur final drive to compensate all range of performance. feel Free to share ur doubt.

 

Quite hard to give a fix amount for installation plus tuningas different ppl got different expectation of its bike performance or other factor like carburetor or fuel injection....... I could only say it is cheaper than buying 3 year old's 2b bike. estimately.

[Guest takashigin]

hmm interesting sial.. how much to install one..

 

hi pinkPong. have i answered ur question similar with 'jojo'