[Group] Super Four Bol'dor Riders

[Lass]

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Originally posted by Smyles@March 16, 2007 10:01 pm

Pilot Power meaning Michelin right? Not sure what size u need for S4, it's same as for a Hornet 600? If so, u tried Alexandra Village?

my bike shop is at AV hehe

[kennethy]

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Originally posted by floppy@March 15, 2007 04:33 pm

not quite true, they do service bikes purchased from other shops. meng tong is skillful and mainly works on class2 bikes. very highly sought after mechanic.

 

mr lee's prices are usually on the high side, interest rate used is also high but other than that, it's a trustworthy shop to patronise.

 

vfr is a very nice bike. once the v-4 engine starts reverberating, the feeling is simply orgaismic. as every owner will tell you, vfr is very unlike any other bike (which is true!). it is generally reliable although there are some electronic gremlins to watch out for. only problem: it runs hot due to the v-4 engine configuration and side mounted radiators, and can be uncomfortable during slow/stop-start traffic.

the owner speaks...

[kennethy]

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Originally posted by tt6389@March 14, 2007 03:58 pm

My rubber brake hoses seem to show signs of bulging whenever i braked; think I better change to those stainless steel ones.

Anyone here using Spiegler brake hose or Hel or Venhill & very very satisfied? Think I 'll just get the most popular ones.

 

btw ,there's a promotion of $180 including installation now for Spiegler.

 

i had tried hel and venhill... prefer venhill...

 

in terms of performance, i would say most of the hose are the same... it is at the end the design and finishing...

[Lass]

for me am using venhill and plot

 

my venhill is e 1st batch so i am not sure how diff it is fr e new ones cos i think they improved on e design.

 

plot's diff more instaneous response.

[khookahkiat]

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Originally posted by andextan@March 16, 2007 05:09 pm

K3 is thinking of upgrading to VFR... Hehe... But hor, he still need to get his CL 2 first... But think u can PM him to check...

 

His bike is in get condition and only used as weekend bike only...

Andrew: I registered already! should be starting my lessons next week! hahaha...

 

Ah long: I'm seriously considering selling my bold'or. Like what Tim mentioned, only 6k plus mileage as of now. But I got to see my options. Since my bike still under COI, I have to ask my bike shop whether I can transfer to another buyer. Failing which, I have to sell back to the bike shop. You interested to buy ah?

 

floppy: Are you a VFR rider? still have so many things to learn about the machine... I've heard so much about the bike, but only in words and still very noob. Hehe... Hope to gain more experience and level up soon!

[floppy]

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Originally posted by khookahkiat@March 17, 2007 11:40 am

floppy: Are you a VFR rider? still have so many things to learn about the machine... I've heard so much about the bike, but only in words and still very noob. Hehe... Hope to gain more experience and level up soon!

yes, i'm riding one.

 

however, a word of caution. don't expect too much from this bike as it does have some weaknesses. on the whole, its strengths should outweigh its weaknesses though. no need to hurry if you haven't gotten your class2. cb400sf is more than good enough for local riding condition. besides, if you are not riding much, getting a bigger bike is like holding on to a depreciating asset, not entirely worth it.

 

kennethy: you back in sgp?

[h_LoNg]

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Originally posted by khookahkiat@March 17, 2007 11:40 am

Andrew: I registered already! should be starting my lessons next week! hahaha...

 

Ah long: I'm seriously considering selling my bold'or. Like what Tim mentioned, only 6k plus mileage as of now. But I got to see my options. Since my bike still under COI, I have to ask my bike shop whether I can transfer to another buyer. Failing which, I have to sell back to the bike shop. You interested to buy ah?

 

floppy: Are you a VFR rider? still have so many things to learn about the machine... I've heard so much about the bike, but only in words and still very noob. Hehe... Hope to gain more experience and level up soon!

Hi k3,

 

Yes, i considering changing to S4 bolder. I used to own spec 1 for 3yrs then itchy go change to scooter. Now miss my S4 days so tinking to changing back to S4. Kinda prefer the bolder over the headless versions

 

However, im not in a hurry to buy cos im still considering my options and doing my sums now.

 

Phew, i juz finished screening through 103 pages of this thread

[h_LoNg]

Hi bol'der riders,

 

Care to share your fuel comsumption? How many KM before reserve?

[Smyles]

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Originally posted by floppy@March 17, 2007 12:23 pm

yes, i'm riding one.

 

however, a word of caution. don't expect too much from this bike as it does have some weaknesses. on the whole, its strengths should outweigh its weaknesses though. no need to hurry if you haven't gotten your class2. cb400sf is more than good enough for local riding condition. besides, if you are not riding much, getting a bigger bike is like holding on to a depreciating asset, not entirely worth it.

 

kennethy: you back in sgp?

Hornet 600 is a good grade up from S4 perhaps. If put small windscreen is fine for some touring, nice and light for the windy roads too and cus it has the CBR sports bike engine it's more than fast and responsive enough

[andextan]

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Originally posted by @h_LoNg@March 17, 2007 01:40 pm

Hi bol'der riders,

 

Care to share your fuel comsumption? How many KM before reserve?

For my 2 mth old bikes, my consumption is ard 19km/L. Full tank is 18L with 3L reserve included. I usually will hit 280 before I hit reserve. Then again, it is hard to compare due to many factor. Eg, your riding style, pillion, box, etc.

[tt6389]

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Originally posted by @h_LoNg@March 17, 2007 01:40 pm

Hi bol'der riders,

 

Care to share your fuel comsumption? How many KM before reserve?

mine also 280km before reserve. About 18 to 19km per liter. My riding style is not to be imitated (bad), some more got side boxes & rear box.

 

[Lass]

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Originally posted by @h_LoNg@March 17, 2007 01:40 pm

Hi bol'der riders,

 

Care to share your fuel comsumption? How many KM before reserve?

mine's abt 280 hit reserve oso

[tt6389]

Hope those who intend to go coolant flushing can learn something below. Those who do not have temp gauge may have to be extra vigilant with their reservoir level after reading the below:-

 

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today while at motoworld to change my bike battery, i checked my coolant reservoir level. It was empty! A few days ago, i also topped up the coolant level by at least a quarter of the reservoir. It was a total of 2 top ups after my second reflush. That means quite a substantial amount of topping up after the last flushed.

 

How to explain this? Leakage somewhere? My radiator cap not working? The coolant additives which are supposed to raise the boiling point thus preventing excessive boiling is insufficient? (I did tried to buy a bottle of the Maxima concentrates)

 

Or maybe S4 's coolant system is naturally designed like this, there 's a lot of air pockets trapped inside the radiator system, which can't be rid off during the coolant topping up process no matter how good the workmanship. On a hind note here, motorworld & Racewerkz 's workmanship are supposedly reputable, especially Racewerkz as seen in the SBF threads. I am personally impressed with the Racewerkz 's boss technical knowledge too.

 

In another words , it needs to undergo the hot & cold cycles to purge out the trapped pockets. What i mean is when engine is running, the trapped air will be pushed out from the radiator cap 's side opening into the reservoir - due to increased temp & pressure. When engine stops & radiator cools, a vacuum formation at the radiator will sucks the coolant back from the reservoir to top up the radiator system - thus replacing the voids formerly occupied by the trapped air. Thus the reservoir level will drops naturally as well. This cycle got to repeat for many days or 1-2 weeks before the system level stabilised.

 

But I noticed one thing also that the mechanic in Motorworld & Racewerkz did not do something for Ones_co & me respectively. It's written in the S4 manual for coolant flushing , which says the last step is to use a handpump with build-in pressure gauge & radiator cap attachment to pressure up the system & hold for a few minutes to see if pressure can maintains. This will confirms if any hoses or drain nuts are not fully tightened etc. Today I noticed that Motorworld got that special handpump, but I wonder why they never used it on Ones_co 's R1 when he flushed his coolant that day?

 

But visually, there was no leakage for my bike at all.

 

Anyway today i replaced my radiator cap too at motorworld to eliminate this possibility of my cap malfunction. As you know, the radiator cap acts like a pressure regulator , operates & maintains the radiator system at 1.1bar when the engine is running, thus raising the boiling point of water to about 120 + degC. (higher system press=higher boiling pt). So a faulty radiator cap can results in lower boiling pt , excessive boiling & lost of coolant.

 

Hopefully the reservoir level will maintain from now on. Perhaps all air pockets are cleared by now. Furthermore got new radiator cap.

 

On a positive note, temperature wise, its definitely lower than my previous stock coolant which is having 50% glycol. Glycol do raise the boiling point of the system if used in sufficient volume, but its heat carrying capacity (specific heat capacity or latent heat) is many times less than water. Thats why I avoided using Motul & Engine Ice & the original honda stock coolant which are using 50% glycols. This explains for my bike very slow rising of temp at traffic light & lower temp during cruising (compared to my previous stock coolant)

 

[FOXY]

no outing ?

[Lass]

k3 : hv fun w ur lessons. everything's e same w 2a except for higher expectation plus lifting and pushing bike. shd be a pc of cake for u. ur boldor mileage is so low. wow! hehe shd b a good buy

 

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Smlyes : heard e new hornet is ex though. do u know e price? am curious too hehe

 

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andextan & ah long : personally i think, e FC shd not be a major concern, unless it's a major differentiation from e norm. how much ur FC is due to alot of factors and different ppl hv diff riding styles and speed. just sharing my personal tots.

[Smyles]

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Originally posted by Lass@March 18, 2007 10:52 am

k3 : hv fun w ur lessons. everything's e same w 2a except for higher expectation plus lifting and pushing bike. shd be a pc of cake for u. ur boldor mileage is so low. wow! hehe shd b a good buy

 

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Smlyes : heard e new hornet is ex though. do u know e price? am curious too hehe

 

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andextan & ah long : personally i think, e FC shd not be a major concern, unless it's a major differentiation from e norm. how much ur FC is due to alot of factors and different ppl hv diff riding styles and speed. just sharing my personal tots.

Hey Lass, ya hornet not cheap. I think new is round 17.5.

 

May be selling mine off soon tho if I move back to England ...

[daydream]

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Originally posted by @h_LoNg@March 17, 2007 01:40 pm

Hi bol'der riders,

 

Care to share your fuel comsumption? How many KM before reserve?

290 km wif a box and everythingstock

[Lass]

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Originally posted by Smyles@March 18, 2007 02:42 pm

Hey Lass, ya hornet not cheap. I think new is round 17.5.

 

May be selling mine off soon tho if I move back to England ...

woah equivalent to machine price of a 600 sports bike!

 

so when u move bk, wat bike u planning to get?

[daydream]

any1 using bt 020 tiremine is ab 1 mth old but its grip is not tt good leh...will kind so skit when corner and i even skit a fall @ cre8tive carpark slope i find it kindda lousyleh

 

so wanna see hows the rest bt020 doing ??

 

and m1 & m3 reali worth tt price??

[FOXY]

try 2ct lor

[FOXY]

k3 faster get cl2 we go see big lake together ok ?

[pktan]

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Originally posted by ^FOXY^@March 19, 2007 04:03 am

k3 faster get cl2 we go see big lake together ok ?

wah bro, dun like tat ler, i still using 2a bike oh.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lol. pulling ur leg okay? he he

[tt6389]

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Originally posted by daydream@March 19, 2007 03:44 am

any1 using bt 020 tiremine is ab 1 mth old but its grip is not tt good leh...will kind so skit when corner and i even skit a fall @ cre8tive carpark slope i find it kindda lousyleh

 

so wanna see hows the rest bt020 doing ??

 

and m1 & m3 reali worth tt price??

using M3 now but don't find it better tham my previous dunlop sportmax. Nearly slipped in my multi storey carpark when floor wet too.

[pktan]

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Originally posted by daydream@March 19, 2007 03:44 am

any1 using bt 020 tiremine is ab 1 mth old but its grip is not tt good leh...will kind so skit when corner and i even skit a fall @ cre8tive carpark slope i find it kindda lousyleh

 

so wanna see hows the rest bt020 doing ??

 

and m1 & m3 reali worth tt price??

Been told BT020 very long lasting but can't handle rain, meaning grip not good. Am using BT014, quite good, or u can try BT021.

[tt6389]

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Originally posted by ^FOXY^@March 19, 2007 04:03 am

k3 faster get cl2 we go see big lake together ok ?

thot go taman U shopping plus big lake hunting on 7th april. You off that day?