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I would honestly have to see this to believe this. The only possible way to increase a full 33% in mileage would usually be done by a highly tuned caburettor, at the expense of horsepower. And also the reduction of loading/weight on the vehicle but I honestly doubt it.

 

If this mini-mods can raise a Phantom 200 mileage to match a k** kia, the entire system could be sold to all other Phantoms for a tidy profit in my opinion. Perhaps you might wish to show how you did it to everyone, so that at least others would not think this is a bluff?

 

I did an optimum setting for my carb(my own gut feeling/riding style and experience of tuning my carb on/off each day till get optimum results)...so optimum/reliable for ME that i need to maintain 1/5 throttle all the way with a constant speed of 120,flat road...

When i did testing for fc,i didnt do any pillioning,nor fast accelerattion....purely relax riding....

And i also get the good fc is due to the fuel saving gadget,E68...air bleed device....all the benefits is due to the different gadgets working closely with each other....not purely the Raizin VS only...

And i admit,when i pillion my wife,i won't get this performance of what i get when im alone on the bike...i just get a smooth ride..

Its mechanical productivity & proper tuning with further aid of electronic gadgets to get optimal performance...

My rate of FC is 40-45km/l alone,speed variations depends on road conditions

and when i pilion my wife alot,i will get ard 35-40km/l...coz maybe of my wife's pregnant....so called im pillioning 2 person,hehe...

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I would be willing to make whatever bet you wish that under controlled test conditions you cannot achieve a 33 percent increase in fuel economy that you have stated. It defies the realities of engine physics.

 

im interested to find out more as well on how to increase my FC from 17 to 33% more...

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I would be willing to make whatever bet you wish that under controlled test conditions you cannot achieve a 33 percent increase in fuel economy that you have stated. It defies the realities of engine physics.

Results based on PURELY NORMAL DAILY RIDING,if controlled test,i wouldnt know what results it would give...

Its based on reality,not HOLLYWOOD effects....

 

I pull myself out of this debate...i will continue to enjoy my fuel savings and performance....

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Its useless for me to say anymore...coz whatever i state,there will always be a debate....haiz....

Anyway YOU WIN!

 

Why so defensive bro? If you feel that what you experienced is real then so be it..... All the rest are just saying that they would like to see your set** being tested in an actual test environment.

 

Personally i'd like to see an actual test on that as well :cheeky:

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Results based on PURELY NORMAL DAILY RIDING,if controlled test,i wouldnt know what results it would give...

Its based on reality,not HOLLYWOOD effects....

 

I pull myself out of this debate...i will continue to enjoy my fuel savings and performance....

 

I believe you man...my busa FC is 17-18km per litre on normal riding....I already achieved 21km/l, about 19% saving...under slow riding

No gadgets whatsoever...all stock + performance parts :)

 

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Now,after known dat i can get optimal FC,i dont care about FC anymore,enjoying the twist of thottle each time everytime...if wanna safe FC,just change from aggresive to relax mode....

You just can't accept the fact that im having good Fc+performance with the "st**id garbages(gadget)" you called it...

 

Im out of here!

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some ppl juz only wan to stay like a leech depending on other saying but dun dare to make the OWN move in trying out new thing.

 

all that is said maybe u can say that it is real 10-20yrs back... but over years of improvement and discovery it have and bound to see thus gadget that is able to help.

 

dun belive go and try. for wat juz sit here and talk so much.

and juz dun dare to try and yet post any kind of negative comment on ppl add on. juz so wonder for wat and why?

 

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some ppl juz only wan to stay like a leech depending on other saying but dun dare to make the OWN move in trying out new thing.

 

all that is said maybe u can say that it is real 10-20yrs back... but over years of improvement and discovery it have and bound to see thus gadget that is able to help.

 

dun belive go and try. for wat juz sit here and talk so much.

and juz dun dare to try and yet post any kind of negative comment on ppl add on. juz so wonder for wat and why?

 

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The world have unexplainable thing happening around,its unbelievable but you still have to believe it....people will still be people....

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this have been debated before...guessed ** to individual preferences...personally, I dont think it will perform ** much...been using one of those voltage stabilizers gadjet thingy before and I took it out cos not much diff...

 

Btw, how much performance can a phantom get with all this mod bro? and Phantom being a crusier should be rode light and easy and not aggresively like sports bike..you might as well **grade to a bigger bike and njoy the power of STOCK big cc performance...

 

Cheers manz...(the best part-your "PURE NORMAL DAILY RIDING " performance might not be my "PURE NORMAL DAILY RIDING" feeling...so any testing is its best done in a controlled environment....cheers manz..peace

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dun belive go and try. for wat juz sit here and talk so much. and juz dun dare to try and yet post any kind of negative comment on ppl add on. juz so wonder for wat and why?

 

cheers

 

Of course we all believe you, it's even better if you can convince us.

 

If you can substantiate those mileage claims, you will definitely become very popular in this community, and we truly hope you can also share this knowledge.

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Just a bit of nugget as well as asking for clarifications.....

 

Capacitors are used to eliminate ripples in a circuit. In this case, just by applying a capacitor and resistor in parallel to the battery would be able to eliminate ripples in the circuit right? As long as the capacitor charges ** quickly and discharges slowly by the use of the resistor, then this can be achieved am i right?

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I've got for myself a power abuser which I believe is pretty much the same thing as voltage stabilizer. The stuff works in giving me a smoother ride that's pretty much noticeable. Fuel consumption wise I'm not sure. Yet I can't say for sure if this stuff will work for all other bike (my bike is 11 years old).

 

From my basis electronic understanding, it's natrual for a bike to be smoother once voltage/current fluctuation is reduced. Provided that there's room for such improvement to begin with. How it helps to improve fuel efficiency is something I couldn't understand. Most probably in a indirect manner.

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Just a bit of nugget as well as asking for clarifications.....

 

Capacitors are used to eliminate ripples in a circuit. In this case, just by applying a capacitor and resistor in parallel to the battery would be able to eliminate ripples in the circuit right? As long as the capacitor charges ** quickly and discharges slowly by the use of the resistor, then this can be achieved am i right?

 

If you are thinking of diy, you'll need to know the component specs. I heard there's a circuit diagram for download somewhere.

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As long as it does not fry my bulbs (by stabilizing the voltage) and I can kick start and ride the bike, I am happy. I think I will keep the battery on the bike as this bike has no regulator (only equipped with a rectifier) the battery act as a reservoir or regulator.

Thanks for the feedback.

 

Note for others, we are referring to the bat-pac aka battery eliminator :)

 

if i'm not wrong, rectifier = regulator. it both converts AC from our alternator to DC for use on our bikes...

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if i'm not wrong, rectifier = regulator. it both converts AC from our alternator to DC for use on our bikes...

 

rectifier converts AC to DC, regulator regulates the currect to 14.2 max :)

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rectifier converts AC to DC, regulator regulates the currect to 14.2 max :)

 

14.2 is the voltage. how much current i'm not sure cos have to consider the overall resistance of the entire bike system....

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Of course we all believe you, it's even better if you can convince us.

 

If you can substantiate those mileage claims, you will definitely become very popular in this community, and we truly hope you can also share this knowledge.

 

dun mean to quote u.

 

agree on the sharing part.

but what i see is all disagree when even ppl post abt how it is able to acheive...

how u wan others to share? imagine when u share a product/claim. and 1001 ppl say bullshit etc... how would the person feel.

 

tis is a forum yes many will have different idea. but why can't juz go gentle of some and it is not like this person is force ppl to try?? rite?

 

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I've got for myself a power abuser which I believe is pretty much the same thing as voltage stabilizer. The stuff works in giving me a smoother ride that's pretty much noticeable. Fuel consumption wise I'm not sure. Yet I can't say for sure if this stuff will work for all other bike (my bike is 11 years old).

 

From my basis electronic understanding, it's natrual for a bike to be smoother once voltage/current fluctuation is reduced. Provided that there's room for such improvement to begin with. How it helps to improve fuel efficiency is something I couldn't understand. Most probably in a indirect manner.

for fuel efficiency i think is like for example when bike not smooth u need to open throttle to 20% to get XX speed. when smooth maybe u juz need to throttle 18% to get the xx speed. in this way u save 2% oil everytime u throttle to xx speed. juz my 2 cents.....

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14.2 is the voltage. how much current i'm not sure cos have to consider the overall resistance of the entire bike system....

 

I also donno but both my busa and my piaggio zip gave the same cut-off reading of voltage....my GT250 gave 17-18 volt...but the bike works fine..

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Well guys, i made a so-called volt stabiliser using capactior only and tried just now.. so far nothing burn or melt... cap still in working condition.. but then i dunno how the actual volt stabiliser actually affect the bike performance.. maybe some of you can contribute and i will see whether my so-call VS get the actual VS capability

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