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[Technical] Possible Solutions to your Phantom's Problem


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1... check your tension tighten if necessary...if exceed max position..time to have chain replaced.

check for wear: at the sprockets pull/push chain links up and down if u can feel chain is moving then chain/sprocket needs to be changed.

 

2. oil all joints...return spring may need to be change. at the same time check for brake fluid level may be insufficient fluid.

 

Thanks for the info, bro.

 

Anyway, a quick update.

 

1) I went down to the bike shop yesterday. The mechanic tightened to the max, but the chain was still loose. So he proposed changing a new chain. At first, he quoted me $45, but subsequently realised he does not have stock for that chain. In the end, i hv to pay $100 for what he said a "better" chain. U guys think that is a reasonable price?

 

2) For problem 2, it turns out that the spring connecting the brake is rusty. He oiled it for me, and now, i think it's working somewhat better.

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Thanks for the info, bro.

 

Anyway, a quick update.

 

1) I went down to the bike shop yesterday. The mechanic tightened to the max, but the chain was still loose. So he proposed changing a new chain. At first, he quoted me $45, but subsequently realised he does not have stock for that chain. In the end, i hv to pay $100 for what he said a "better" chain. U guys think that is a reasonable price?

 

2) For problem 2, it turns out that the spring connecting the brake is rusty. He oiled it for me, and now, i think it's working somewhat better.

 

wahhh $100... even an x-ring chain shouldn't cost this much...

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i think is the high end brands bahs... From italy or something.. saw someone posting a $100 chain somewhere before..

JOSHUA

class2B -26/2/09

class 2A -27/7/10

class 3 - 6/1/11

class 2 - 30/8/12

 

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UPZ FOR GREAT INFO.

 

Problem 1: Exhaust emitting white smoke.

Reason: Engine oil is leaking into your chamber.

Solution: Pistol rings needs to be changed. Go to a bike workshop.

 

Reason: Your bike has a 2 stroke engine(ta150).

Solution: Its normal.

 

 

Problem 2: Engine stalls in heavy rain and unable / weak to start.

Reason: Spark plug could be getting wet by the rain causing it not not function

Solution: Remove, dry the spark plug and put it back properly. Go get the plug cap replaced.

 

Reason: Air fuel mixture may be too rich or lean.

Solution: Tune your carb to a leaner setting (turn screw anti-clockwise by 1/4).

 

Reason: Air leakages.

Solution: Change some of the rubber parts in tank.

 

Reason: Air filter clogged.

Solution : Get your air filter changed.

 

 

 

Problem 3: Flat / Punctured Tyres

Solution: Try to inflate tyre with portable pump / bicycle pump then go bike or tyre shop. DO NOT ride on flat tyres as they may damage your tyre or wheel.

 

Solution: Use tyre repair kit, plug and pump = good to go. Kit can be bought at LAB.

 

 

Problem 4: Cannot / Hard to start bike

Reason: Battery may be weak (confirmed by a tick sound from the right side cover under the seat).

Solution: Push Start(Clutch in after running with bike, release, give a quick throttle and clutch in) and go get battery replaced or ride to charge(if still can be charged).

 

Reason: Fuse may be blown.

Solution: Check Fuse. Fuse is located on right side of bike. Remove chrome cover under the seat and see. Look out for the centre of the fuse if its broken then FUSED lor. Change new one.

 

Reason: Bike is in gear, kill switch is on, no petrol.

Solution: Obvious.

 

Reason: Rectifier issue (despite new battery, bike soon becomes hard to start again)

Solution: Get mechanic to check with a voltage meter. Ah chong has one.

 

Reason: Petrol topped up too full - Don't laugh.

Solution: The petrol tank is not meant to be filled to the brim. Leave some space for air.

 

Reason: Water in petrol

Solution: Check that fuel cap is secure and no leaks

 

Others:

- Check ignition coil for sparks.

- Check magneto coil.

 

 

Problem 5: Cant go more den 80 km/h

Reason: You are not in the 6th gear

Solution: Down 1 time 1st gear. up 5 times to sixth gear

 

Reason: If confirm no 6th gear, gear box may be in bad shape

Solution: Go to a reputable workshop for a checkup, may need to over haul.

 

Reason: Insufficient Engine Oil (Very bad)

Solution: Check with dipstick as according to manual. Buy Engine Oil from petrol kiosk and top up.

 

Reason: Clutch may have been worn off (Engine reving very high but no power to go any faster)

Solution: Bike shop chance clutch.

 

Reason: Air fuel mixture too rich (Crazy vibrations at higher revs making it too uncomfortable)

Solution: Tune air fuel mixture leaner (Turn screw anti-clockwise 1/2 - 1 round)

 

Reason: Sprocket may be worn off

Solution: Change sprocket and chain.

 

 

Problem 6: Weird sound on my bike

Reason: Might be battery low. (Ticking sound on right side when start button depressed)

Solution: Push start, change battery

 

Reason: If sound is on gearbox side, chain may be too slack

Solution: Check your chain tension 1st. Should have about 2 to 3cm slack, tested at the center of the bottom span of the chain. Anything more, get it tightened. Also, lubricate your chain.

 

 

Problem 7: - Exhaust Header got holes. Can repair?

Reason: Got one specific hole which is ok.

Solution: If unsure, post some pictures.

 

 

Problem 8: - Engine oil Dip stick broken (Broken part might be in engine)

Solution:

- Send to bikeshop.

- New dipstick costs around $11.

 

 

Problem 9: I have tried everything but to no avail. Any tow numbers please?

Solution:

- 67474740 Tiko cheong.

- 64560018 Wing Yap.

- 97384501 => Hello, you the tua chia one?

 

 

Problem 10: Engine Part Leaking Oil

Reason: Gasket Spoilt.

Solution: Bike shop, get it replaced

 

Reason: Cam chain tensioner spoilt.

Solution: Bike shop, get it replaced

 

 

Problem 11: When riding, bike lean to one side. Let go of handlebar, steering was shaky and wobbling

Reason: Might be steering cone problem.

Solution: Go bike shop to get it fixed. May also need re-alignment.

 

Reason: Wheel bearings spoilt.

Solution: Bike shop, get it changed.

 

Reason: Wheel alignment might have problem.

Solution: Bike shop, get it fixed.

 

 

Problem 12: Speedo is not working

Reason: The cable, or the gear at the end of the cable is spoilt or loose.

Solution: If loose, plug it back or tighten. Else needs replacement, go bike shop.

 

Reason: Speedo spoilt.

Solution: Bike shop.

 

 

Problem 13: My exhaust gives have a loud bang regularly. (Backfire)

Reason: Air fuel mixture too rich or too lean.

Solution: Retune the carb.

 

 

Problem 14: I lost my bike Key!!! What to do??

Solution: Go find the key smith.

 

Solution: If want to change ignition, look for Ah Chong (Planet) or scrapyard.

 

 

Problem 15: Bike pickup super slow. Even slower than small cc cars.

Reason: Clutch is worn

Solution: Change your clutch plates.

 

Problem 16: Damaged Exhaust: Header got hole / Muffler loose or dropping.

Solution: Header got hole can weld it up.

Solution: Muffler dropping can cut open the pipe and take it out but pipe will sound louder.

Solution: Alternatively can change the whole system, pipe + header, about 300+-.

 

Problem 17: Hard to kick the gears

Reason: Clutch is worn

Solution: Change or top up EO.

Solution: Change clutch plate.

 

Problem 18: When cold start, bike got "tick tick" sound

Reason: cam chain tensioner spoilt.

Solution: Change the cam chain tensioner.

Solution: If its rattling sound instead of "tick tick" sound, bring bike to mechanic.

 

Problem 19: Bike wobble for no apparent reason.

Reason: Might have problem with wheel bearings or tyre pressure.

Solution: Check that the tyre pressure is correct.

Solution: If tyre pressure is correct, most probably is the bearing spoilt.

Solution:Change new bearings.

 

Problem 20: In Vehicle Unit (IU) Spoilt.

Reason: There is a whole lot of reason, old, water seep in, etc etc.

Solution: But a second hand IU but need to transfer name.

Solution: Buy a new IU at $155.80 w GST.

Solution: Don't go into carparks or go through ERP.

 

Problem 21: Weak Battery.

Reason: Battery old. Cannot charge or hold properly. etc etc

Solution: Recharge the battery (Wet), Dry ones cannot be recharged?.

Solution: Most people change batteries instead of recharging.

Solution: If leaving bike alone for a long time, disconnect the battery to prevent further unnecessary drainage.

 

Problem 22: Need to step real hard for brake lights to light up.

Reason: There is a knob for adjustment, it might be loose

Solution: There is a black screw lookalike plastic knob( near the spring) located somewhere near the rear brake pedal. u can play around with the knob by turning to adjust the sensitivity of your rear brake when you apply brake.

 

Problem 23: IU Spoilt.

Reason: No reason in particular. If its spoilt, its spoilt.

Solution: Inspect at Vicom. Replace a new one if under warranty. If not, have to buy a new one at about $155 (Slim).

JOSHUA

class2B -26/2/09

class 2A -27/7/10

class 3 - 6/1/11

class 2 - 30/8/12

 

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wahhh $100... even an x-ring chain shouldn't cost this much...

 

yar lor, put a big hole in my pocket. But no choice, i hv to agree, cos the mechanic oredi took out the old chain. Then he said dun hv the $45 chain. haiz.

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i think is the high end brands bahs... From italy or something.. saw someone posting a $100 chain somewhere before..

 

i hope so too. But the mechanic said it's only from Japan. Dunno what DID brand. Oso never hear before.

 

Very siong siah. I bought the bike four mths back for only $800. Now just one chain oredi cost another $100.

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Hello.. i riding TA200 , and u guys know when kick to neutral, that will be green light rite? but mine , every single gear also got green light . what happen actually ? =/

 

2. when i wanna take my bike, the floor got EO stain. what could actually happen ?

Determination is the wake up call to the human will..

 

2006 - SP150

2007 - Phantom TA200

2013 - Yamaha R15

 

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i hope so too. But the mechanic said it's only from Japan. Dunno what DID brand. Oso never hear before.

 

Very siong siah. I bought the bike four mths back for only $800. Now just one chain oredi cost another $100.

Thats why its only $800 ;)

 

Hello.. i riding TA200 , and u guys know when kick to neutral, that will be green light rite? but mine , every single gear also got green light . what happen actually ? =/

 

2. when i wanna take my bike, the floor got EO stain. what could actually happen ?

Neutral connection at every gear? Hmm connection spoilt? :cheeky:

Something leaking? Gasket blown?:angel:

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Thats why its only $800 ;)

 

 

Neutral connection at every gear? Hmm connection spoilt? :cheeky:

Something leaking? Gasket blown?:angel:

 

 

ohh.. icic.. thanks .. haha..

Determination is the wake up call to the human will..

 

2006 - SP150

2007 - Phantom TA200

2013 - Yamaha R15

 

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i got a Qus... What are the signs to take note if my rear suspension is damage or not?

 

 

cause when i pillion , cross over a hump = bike produce music

 

some help here people.

JOSHUA

class2B -26/2/09

class 2A -27/7/10

class 3 - 6/1/11

class 2 - 30/8/12

 

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i got a Qus... What are the signs to take note if my rear suspension is damage or not?

 

 

cause when i pillion , cross over a hump = bike produce music

 

some help here people.

 

try doing this without a pillion.

 

fly over a hump... your rear shocks would be compressed...

 

scenario 1: you return to normal riding height in a single motion - rear shocks ok :box:

 

scenario 2: you bounce up and down... up and down... boing boing boing... fail... your rear shocks need servicing... :giddy:

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ok.. mine is scenario 1 for sure.. Think need to visit ah chong again liao... 3 visits in less then a week ;-)

 

the sound can only be heard sometimes when i pillion only.. is chain too tight a problem? maybe the mech tune till too tight?

JOSHUA

class2B -26/2/09

class 2A -27/7/10

class 3 - 6/1/11

class 2 - 30/8/12

 

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ok.. mine is scenario 1 for sure.. Think need to visit ah chong again liao... 3 visits in less then a week ;-)

 

the sound can only be heard sometimes when i pillion only.. is chain too tight a problem? maybe the mech tune till too tight?

 

well... a 3rd possibility is that the joint between the chassis and the swing arm is rusty / dry... maybe some lube would solve that...

 

either way, do ask ah chong about it... :smile:

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Hello.. i riding TA200 , and u guys know when kick to neutral, that will be green light rite? but mine , every single gear also got green light . what happen actually ? =/

 

2. when i wanna take my bike, the floor got EO stain. what could actually happen ?

 

gimme a call my no is in FNO thread...i might know the reason

Go as far as you can see; when you get there, you'll be able to see farther.

J. P. Morgan

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well... a 3rd possibility is that the joint between the chassis and the swing arm is rusty / dry... maybe some lube would solve that...

 

either way, do ask ah chong about it... :smile:

 

alright.. will trying doing as you said before consulting Doctor chong :D

 

Thanks thankz

JOSHUA

class2B -26/2/09

class 2A -27/7/10

class 3 - 6/1/11

class 2 - 30/8/12

 

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i got a Qus... What are the signs to take note if my rear suspension is damage or not?

 

 

cause when i pillion , cross over a hump = bike produce music

 

some help here people.

 

your suspension hit the bottom limit..

try adjusting the suspension to a tighter level.

 

sound may come from your bike chain..as your suspension bottom, the swing arm actually goes up relative to the swing arm pivot, by going over the pivot the chain tension is actually increased....loosen your tension ( ie..u had the tension adjusted without using the pivot as a refernce.).if thats the case.

 

in your case..confirm which is happening.

Never argue with an idiot. They'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience every time:dot:

Posted (edited)

oh.. so just tighten the suspension will do?? like what the ta200 manual says?? postion 3? tighter as in postion 1 or 5?

Edited by jtzx

JOSHUA

class2B -26/2/09

class 2A -27/7/10

class 3 - 6/1/11

class 2 - 30/8/12

 

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oh.. so just tighten the suspension will do?? like what the ta200 manual says??

wah..now u r talking like a potential xpert...:bounce:

Never argue with an idiot. They'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience every time:dot:

Posted
wah..now u r talking like a potential xpert...:bounce:

 

hmm.. meaning?? postion 1 to 5... tighter = postion 5?

JOSHUA

class2B -26/2/09

class 2A -27/7/10

class 3 - 6/1/11

class 2 - 30/8/12

 

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hmm.. meaning?? postion 1 to 5... tighter = postion 5?

 

no idea.

 

hhahah

 

but i would increase the spring tension by 1 level and test..it should give u a stiffer ride. then test going over or carry pillion and confirm if it is working

Never argue with an idiot. They'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience every time:dot:

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no idea.

 

hhahah

 

but i would increase the spring tension by 1 level and test..it should give u a stiffer ride. then test going over or carry pillion and confirm if it is working

 

confirm can liao.. i also dunno why my postion 3(tight) can jump till position 4(light)...

 

just went to check... need to open up my phantom tools and figure out which way to turn later ;-)

JOSHUA

class2B -26/2/09

class 2A -27/7/10

class 3 - 6/1/11

class 2 - 30/8/12

 

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thats simple...turn into direction that reduces the spring loaded lenght...u just have to turn left or right....in most situation turning clockwise most of the time is tightening or increase the streess...coul be that way...

Never argue with an idiot. They'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience every time:dot:

Posted (edited)

it stated in the manual.. postion 4 and 5 is to make your ride real hard.. but good for heavy loaded. But im already at position 4 and there's still sound when i pillion...

 

pin spanner i also dunno how to use.. Jia lat liao...

 

anyone?

Edited by jtzx

JOSHUA

class2B -26/2/09

class 2A -27/7/10

class 3 - 6/1/11

class 2 - 30/8/12

 

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