[Technical] Possible Solutions to your Phantom's Problem

[VidaK]

Thanks for the info guys but is there any way i can do it myself? Like use water to clean or do i have to take out the whole brake?

 

not recommended at this point of time... just in case it is something more than that... besides, you probably don't have a compressed air gun right?

[naim]

if u hv access to compressed air, its possible to try it out urself, cux iirc, its jux 2 bolts that holds d calipers.. but warning.. dun squeeze the brake lever when the calipers are off the disc..

[VidaK]

if u hv access to compressed air, its possible to try it out urself, cux iirc, its jux 2 bolts that holds d calipers.. but warning.. dun squeeze the brake lever when the calipers are off the disc..

 

yep... need quite some effort to return the brake pistons to the closed position!

[raul7]

might be front wheel bearing or maybe the o-ring inside the caliper

[naim]

guys... update on my problem regarding difficulty on engaging 1st gear!

 

-Open up ur front sprocket cover and u can see the rod that joins ur gear lever to the gearbox.. there a clamp with a bolt on it. mine was loose, and thats why when i depress the lever, the shaft that goes into the gearbox barely moves.. so just tightened it up, and voila! problem solved instantly! hahaha.. wat a small fix that helps my riding so much.. jux wanted to share wif the rest who might face this intermittent problem.. give it a try!

[VidaK]

guys... update on my problem regarding difficulty on engaging 1st gear!

 

-Open up ur front sprocket cover and u can see the rod that joins ur gear lever to the gearbox.. there a clamp with a bolt on it. mine was loose, and thats why when i depress the lever, the shaft that goes into the gearbox barely moves.. so just tightened it up, and voila! problem solved instantly! hahaha.. wat a small fix that helps my riding so much.. jux wanted to share wif the rest who might face this intermittent problem.. give it a try!

 

great to hear that you have found the solution!

[kmjoe]

now adays my bike goes into neutral gear too ezily wen frm 2nd to 1st or the other way... pretty dangerous sometimes, any way to fix?

[naim]

dats pretty chim.. my noob guess wud be try playing wif ur clutch freeplay.. or ur EO... haha.. nt too sure ah.. i leave it to the phantom pros..

[raul7]

now adays my bike goes into neutral gear too ezily wen frm 2nd to 1st or the other way... pretty dangerous sometimes, any way to fix?

 

i think lesser freeplay of clutch might helps. i remember the mechanic at unique saying if too lil freeplay very hard to go into neutral gear when i wanted to reduce the freeplay.

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

guys... update on my problem regarding difficulty on engaging 1st gear!

 

-Open up ur front sprocket cover and u can see the rod that joins ur gear lever to the gearbox.. there a clamp with a bolt on it. mine was loose, and thats why when i depress the lever, the shaft that goes into the gearbox barely moves.. so just tightened it up, and voila! problem solved instantly! hahaha.. wat a small fix that helps my riding so much.. jux wanted to share wif the rest who might face this intermittent problem.. give it a try!

 

Nice tip - I'll try to get some pics when I poke at that area next :3

[jtzx]

Phantom TA200/TA150 List of Problems and Solution

 

Problem 1: Exhaust emitting white smoke.

Reason: Engine oil is leaking into your chamber.

Solution: Pistol rings needs to be changed. Go to a bike workshop.

 

Reason: Your bike has a 2 stroke engine(ta150).

Solution: Its normal.

 

 

Problem 2: Engine stalls in heavy rain and unable / weak to start.

Reason: Spark plug could be getting wet by the rain causing it not not function

Solution: Remove, dry the spark plug and put it back properly. Go get the plug cap replaced.

 

Reason: Air fuel mixture may be too rich or lean.

Solution: Tune your carb to a leaner setting (turn screw anti-clockwise by 1/4).

 

Reason: Air leakages.

Solution: Change some of the rubber parts in tank.

 

Reason: Air filter clogged.

Solution : Get your air filter changed.

 

 

 

Problem 3: Flat / Punctured Tyres

Solution: Try to inflate tyre with portable pump / bicycle pump then go bike or tyre shop. DO NOT ride on flat tyres as they may damage your tyre or wheel.

 

Solution: Use tyre repair kit, plug and pump = good to go. Kit can be bought at LAB.

 

 

Problem 4: Cannot / Hard to start bike

Reason: Battery may be weak (confirmed by a tick sound from the right side cover under the seat).

Solution: Push Start(Clutch in after running with bike, release, give a quick throttle and clutch in) and go get battery replaced or ride to charge(if still can be charged).

 

Reason: Fuse may be blown.

Solution: Check Fuse. Fuse is located on right side of bike. Remove chrome cover under the seat and see. Look out for the centre of the fuse if its broken then FUSED lor. Change new one.

 

Reason: Bike is in gear, kill switch is on, no petrol.

Solution: Obvious.

 

Reason: Rectifier issue (despite new battery, bike soon becomes hard to start again)

Solution: Get mechanic to check with a voltage meter. Ah chong has one.

 

Reason: Petrol topped up too full - Don't laugh.

Solution: The petrol tank is not meant to be filled to the brim. Leave some space for air.

 

Reason: Water in petrol

Solution: Check that fuel cap is secure and no leaks

 

++ Reason: If everything is working fine CDI might be spoilt

Solution: Tow to shop and change..2nd hand one will cause app $100 1st hand $200+

Others:

- Check ignition coil for sparks.

- Check magneto coil.

 

 

Problem 5: Cant go more den 80 km/h

Reason: You are not in the 6th gear

Solution: Down 1 time 1st gear. up 5 times to sixth gear

 

Reason: If confirm no 6th gear, gear box may be in bad shape

Solution: Go to a reputable workshop for a checkup, may need to over haul.

 

Reason: Insufficient Engine Oil (Very bad)

Solution: Check with dipstick as according to manual. Buy Engine Oil from petrol kiosk and top up.

 

Reason: Clutch may have been worn off (Engine reving very high but no power to go any faster)

Solution: Bike shop chance clutch.

 

Reason: Air fuel mixture too rich (Crazy vibrations at higher revs making it too uncomfortable)

Solution: Tune air fuel mixture leaner (Turn screw anti-clockwise 1/2 - 1 round)

 

Reason: Sprocket may be worn off

Solution: Change sprocket and chain.

 

 

Problem 6: Weird sound on my bike

Reason: Might be battery low. (Ticking sound on right side when start button depressed)

Solution: Push start, change battery

 

Reason: If sound is on gearbox side, chain may be too slack

Solution: Check your chain tension 1st. Should have about 2 to 3cm slack, tested at the center of the bottom span of the chain. Anything more, get it tightened. Also, lubricate your chain.

 

 

Problem 7: - Exhaust Header got holes. Can repair?

Reason: Got one specific hole which is ok.

Solution: If unsure, post some pictures.

 

 

Problem 8: - Engine oil Dip stick broken (Broken part might be in engine)

Solution:

- Send to bikeshop.

- New dipstick costs around $11.

 

 

Problem 9: I have tried everything but to no avail. Any tow numbers please?

Solution:

- 67474740 Tiko cheong.

- 64560018 Wing Yap.

- 97384501 => Hello, you the tua chia one?

 

 

Problem 10: Engine Part Leaking Oil

Reason: Gasket Spoilt.

Solution: Bike shop, get it replaced

 

Reason: Cam chain tensioner spoilt.

Solution: Bike shop, get it replaced

 

 

Problem 11: When riding, bike lean to one side. Let go of handlebar, steering was shaky and wobbling

Reason: Might be steering cone problem.

Solution: Go bike shop to get it fixed. May also need re-alignment.

 

Reason: Wheel bearings spoilt.

Solution: Bike shop, get it changed.

 

Reason: Wheel alignment might have problem.

Solution: Bike shop, get it fixed.

 

 

Problem 12: Speedo is not working

Reason: The cable, or the gear at the end of the cable is spoilt or loose.

Solution: If loose, plug it back or tighten. Else needs replacement, go bike shop.

 

Reason: Speedo spoilt.

Solution: Bike shop.

 

 

Problem 13: My exhaust gives have a loud bang regularly. (Backfire)

Reason: Air fuel mixture too rich or too lean.

Solution: Retune the carb. (check problem 24)

 

 

Problem 14: I lost my bike Key!!! What to do??

Solution: Go find the key smith.

 

Solution: If want to change ignition, look for Ah Chong (Planet) or scrapyard.

 

 

Problem 15: Bike pickup super slow. Even slower than small cc cars.

Reason: Clutch is worn

Solution: Change your clutch plates.

 

Problem 16: Damaged Exhaust: Header got hole / Muffler loose or dropping.

Solution: Header got hole can weld it up.

Solution: Muffler dropping can cut open the pipe and take it out but pipe will sound louder.

Solution: Alternatively can change the whole system, pipe + header, about 300+-.

 

Problem 17: Hard to kick the gears

Reason: Clutch is worn

Solution: Change or top up EO.

Solution: Change clutch plate.

 

Reason: Your clutch cable is breaking.

Solution: Replace your clutch cable

 

Problem 18: When cold start, bike got "tick tick" sound

Reason: cam chain tensioner spoilt.

Solution: Change the cam chain tensioner.

Solution: If its rattling sound instead of "tick tick" sound, bring bike to mechanic.

 

Problem 19: Bike wobble for no apparent reason.

Reason: Might have problem with wheel bearings or tyre pressure.

Solution: Check that the tyre pressure is correct.

Solution: If tyre pressure is correct, most probably is the bearing spoilt.

Solution:Change new bearings.

 

Problem 20: In Vehicle Unit (IU) Spoilt.

Reason: There is a whole lot of reason, old, water seep in, etc etc.

Solution: But a second hand IU but need to transfer name.

Solution: Buy a new IU at $155.80 w GST.

Solution: Don't go into carparks or go through ERP.

 

Problem 21: Weak Battery.

Reason: Battery old. Cannot charge or hold properly. etc etc

Solution: Recharge the battery (Wet), Dry ones cannot be recharged?.

Solution: Most people change batteries instead of recharging.

Solution: If leaving bike alone for a long time, disconnect the battery to prevent further unnecessary drainage.

 

Problem 22: Need to step real hard for brake lights to light up.

Reason: There is a knob for adjustment, it might be loose

Solution: There is a black screw lookalike plastic knob( near the spring) located somewhere near the rear brake pedal. u can play around with the knob by turning to adjust the sensitivity of your rear brake when you apply brake.

 

Problem 23: IU Spoilt.

Reason: No reason in particular. If its spoilt, its spoilt.

Solution: Inspect at Vicom. Replace a new one if under warranty. If not, have to buy a new one at about $155 (Slim).

 

Problem 24: Backfire tooooo frequent. Like 3-5 times a day. Or when u stop normally, not even sudden brake.

Reason: Gasket at exhaust head leaking air. Or #2, Exhaust has holes

Solution: Replace gasket. Or #2, send it to Planet Motor (ahchong) to weld the holes, or get a second-hand exhaust or get one cheaper exhaust at LAB (must make order)

 

25: After turning off my engine there is a tick tick tick sound some where.

Reason: Exhast pipe is cooling down. Hot it expands so cold it turns back.

Solution: Do DIY exhaust wrap. Reduced backpressure = faster heat evacuation, leading to high speed silent running and silent cooldown after engine off. (Kalyan)

 

Problem 26: Cannot find neutral gear!

Solution: Gear oil not suitable, change different grade of gear oil (see gearoil thread for details)

Solution: Gear box dying.

Solution: Engine is overheated. (Running too lean/ Not enough engine oil.)

Solution: Clutch freeplay not enough

[jB]

26 probs and solutions for Phantom already sweet ;]

[naim]

guys.. recently, wen idling, my bike randomly "rattles".. lyk sumting is "loose" inside the engine lar.. quite obvious wen i cut the throttle suddenlyabit worried if sumting inside wanna come off like dat.. any one faced this prob b4? or is it the famed cam chain tensioner?

 

-edited-

i hv attached a recording of the noise.. turn up the volumes as well.. thanks for anyone who sees it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ekx4HwWuQRE

Edited December 2, 2010 by naim

[byon]

guys.. recently, wen idling, my bike randomly "rattles".. lyk sumting is "loose" inside the engine lar.. quite obvious wen i cut the throttle suddenlyabit worried if sumting inside wanna come off like dat.. any one faced this prob b4? or is it the famed cam chain tensioner?

 

-edited-

i hv attached a recording of the noise.. turn up the volumes as well.. thanks for anyone who sees it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ekx4HwWuQRE

 

 

several times, i have the same issue as you after i used a lousy engine oil. it goes away after riding for 5 minutes. do you have the same issue?

[naim]

nah.. not for my case.. after a 15-20 mins ride, still d same.. nt just frm cold start.. i only ride after proper warm up as well..

[jtzx]

seems like engine knock... What you can do is to use better grade petrol and engine Oil or overhaul engine soon...

[naim]

i use Liquimoly EO.. no probs b4 this.. plus minimum 98 (sg) or 97 (m'sia petrol).. nt sure if these are the causes.. i will drop by a bike shop 2mr to hv a check lar.. hopefully nothing serious..

[kmjoe]

my funny sound stops after chging eo... i dun tink petrol is the cause of it bah... i use 92 nia

[jtzx]

haha.. petrols play a small part. but EO plays a huge part ;D

[Silent Hunter]

From the sound, seems like tensioner loose, change it and the sound should go away.

[Arctic]

Hi everyone, need your opinion on two matters for Phantom 150:

 

1) Difficulty changing gear when bike is stationary, with engine on.

For eg. At traffic stop, I am at first gear. Tried to change to neutral while bike stationary, but cannot. Or when bike is at second gear when stationary. Tried to change to 1st gear, oso cannot.

Subsequently, I tried to adjust the clutch free-play. Seems to be ok for a while after that.

But then the problem comes back again every 2 weeks after each adjustment.

 

2) Metzler back tyre leaking air

I am not sure if I pump too much air (36 units/250 kPa).

For the first 7 months when I changed the tyre, in March, everything was ok. So I pump air every 2 weeks initially, then once per month.

But recently, the air pressure seems to drop dramatically. For eg. I pump last Friday to 36 units. Then yesterday (Friday), it dropped to 8 units. Then today (Saturday), after having pumped to 36 units yesterday, it dropped back to 12 units.

The same thing happened when I used Pirelli last year…

 

Anyone can help?

[naim]

difficult to engage as in ur gear lever like stuck, or u the gear itself doesnt get engage? i hope u get wat i mean..

 

if its difficult, try this:

 

-Open up ur front sprocket cover and u can see the rod that joins ur gear lever to the gearbox.. there a clamp with a bolt on it. mine was loose, and thats why when i depress the lever, the shaft that goes into the gearbox barely moves.. so just tighten the size 10 bolt and u shud be good to go.. u can first try pressing the gear lever, n see the shaft if it turns accordingly.. mine moved only a little, therefore the gearbox did nt engage it..

 

and guys btw, got my cam chain tensioner fixed... changed the cam chain and all the gaskets as well.. noise is gone.. nw i can ride happily n worry-free again!

[CivicFreak]

guys... been hving this issues for d past 2 mths.. i hv trouble getting 1st gear wen im in Neutral.. last tym, maybe only 10% of d tym i cant get 1st gear on the first tap (as in 1 time i tap down d gear lever). nw, its like only 10% of d tym i can get the gear on d first tap. most of d tym, i hv to tap, clutch in n out at least 5-6 times then can engage..sucks wen there is bloody big lorry behind me.. played ard wif d clutch freeplay still no success..

 

chged engine oil still the same.. hw guys? it seems that the gear jux doesn't "snap" strongly anymore.. must keep pressing n pressing... urgh! isit a mechanical issue?

 

i am having the exact same issue ever since i started riding my dad's phantom after passing my license. seriously its annoying when u are in a hurry or at a traffic junction... i changed engine oil and the problem was solved for some time...but again the problem came back..and it was like the same again. i normally would ref my engine and the problem would be over...but its just for a min or so...i seriously have no idea whats the problem...bike had no falls... also at times it is difficult to engage gears properly...say from neutral to gear 1 or sometimes gear 1 to gear 2... i tried adjusting the clutch play, and saw some improvments...but seriously....neutral to 1st or 1st to neutral is a tough fight every single day...is there any recommended workshop that you guys know which i can go to and get my ride checked up once and for all? thanks...hope someone attends to my worries

[naim]

have u tried the fix i did in the previous post?

 

difficult to engage as in ur gear lever like stuck, or u the gear itself doesnt get engage? i hope u get wat i mean..

 

if its difficult, try this:

 

-Open up ur front sprocket cover and u can see the rod that joins ur gear lever to the gearbox.. there a clamp with a bolt on it. mine was loose, and thats why when i depress the lever, the shaft that goes into the gearbox barely moves.. so just tighten the size 10 bolt and u shud be good to go.. u can first try pressing the gear lever, n see the shaft if it turns accordingly.. mine moved only a little, therefore the gearbox did nt engage it..

 

and guys btw, got my cam chain tensioner fixed... changed the cam chain and all the gaskets as well.. noise is gone.. nw i can ride happily n worry-free again!

 

another thing once u r fondling that area, u can actually remove the clamp, and rotate it so that ur gear lever can be made higher.. nt sure if u can picture wat i mean, but once ur gear lever is higher, it makes stepping down to 1st gear a whole lot easier..

[CivicFreak]

have u tried the fix i did in the previous post?

 

 

 

another thing once u r fondling that area, u can actually remove the clamp, and rotate it so that ur gear lever can be made higher.. nt sure if u can picture wat i mean, but once ur gear lever is higher, it makes stepping down to 1st gear a whole lot easier..

 

ok bro...thanks..i will get it checked with what u have said... for me its more of the gear lever kinda stuck and at times....cannot engage to gear one properly...not at one click...i have to clutch in again to solve that problem... if u got pictures...it could be helpful for some of us here...