[Technical] Possible Solutions to your Phantom's Problem

[kmjoe]

i had problem engaging 1st gear some time back too, went to planet to change the foot gear lever thingy, cost $50... now its ok alrdy

[jB]

updated thread ;]

[CivicFreak]

i had problem engaging 1st gear some time back too, went to planet to change the foot gear lever thingy, cost $50... now its ok alrdy

 

err...bro where is this place?

[kmjoe]

3007 Ubi Rd 1 #01-430 Singapore 408701

alot of us go to this place

[raul7]

i had problem engaging 1st gear some time back too, went to planet to change the foot gear lever thingy, cost $50... now its ok alrdy

 

footgear lever can get at unique@tohguan.

they having a clearance/promotion sale. can go their thread to see.

[jtzx]

Phantom TA200/TA150 List of Problems and Solution

 

Problem 1: Exhaust emitting white smoke.

Reason: Engine oil is leaking into your chamber.

Solution: Pistol rings needs to be changed. Go to a bike workshop.

 

Reason: Your bike has a 2 stroke engine(ta150).

Solution: Its normal.

 

 

Problem 2: Engine stalls in heavy rain and unable / weak to start.

Reason: Spark plug could be getting wet by the rain causing it not not function

Solution: Remove, dry the spark plug and put it back properly. Go get the plug cap replaced.

 

Reason: Air fuel mixture may be too rich or lean.

Solution: Tune your carb to a leaner setting (turn screw anti-clockwise by 1/4).

 

Reason: Air leakages.

Solution: Change some of the rubber parts in tank.

 

Reason: Air filter clogged.

Solution : Get your air filter changed.

 

 

 

Problem 3: Flat / Punctured Tyres

Solution: Try to inflate tyre with portable pump / bicycle pump then go bike or tyre shop. DO NOT ride on flat tyres as they may damage your tyre or wheel.

 

Solution: Use tyre repair kit, plug and pump = good to go. Kit can be bought at LAB.

 

 

Problem 4: Cannot / Hard to start bike

Reason: Battery may be weak (confirmed by a tick sound from the right side cover under the seat).

Solution: Push Start(Clutch in after running with bike, release, give a quick throttle and clutch in) and go get battery replaced or ride to charge(if still can be charged).

 

Reason: Fuse may be blown.

Solution: Check Fuse. Fuse is located on right side of bike. Remove chrome cover under the seat and see. Look out for the centre of the fuse if its broken then FUSED lor. Change new one.

 

Reason: Bike is in gear, kill switch is on, no petrol.

Solution: Obvious.

 

Reason: Rectifier issue (despite new battery, bike soon becomes hard to start again)

Solution: Get mechanic to check with a voltage meter. Ah chong has one.

 

Reason: Petrol topped up too full - Don't laugh.

Solution: The petrol tank is not meant to be filled to the brim. Leave some space for air.

 

Reason: Water in petrol

Solution: Check that fuel cap is secure and no leaks

 

++ Reason: If everything is working fine CDI might be spoilt

Solution: Tow to shop and change..2nd hand one will cause app $100 1st hand $200+

Others:

- Check ignition coil for sparks.

- Check magneto coil.

 

 

Problem 5: Cant go more den 80 km/h

Reason: You are not in the 6th gear

Solution: Down 1 time 1st gear. up 5 times to sixth gear

 

Reason: If confirm no 6th gear, gear box may be in bad shape

Solution: Go to a reputable workshop for a checkup, may need to over haul.

 

Reason: Insufficient Engine Oil (Very bad)

Solution: Check with dipstick as according to manual. Buy Engine Oil from petrol kiosk and top up.

 

Reason: Clutch may have been worn off (Engine reving very high but no power to go any faster)

Solution: Bike shop chance clutch.

 

Reason: Air fuel mixture too rich (Crazy vibrations at higher revs making it too uncomfortable)

Solution: Tune air fuel mixture leaner (Turn screw anti-clockwise 1/2 - 1 round)

 

Reason: Sprocket may be worn off

Solution: Change sprocket and chain.

 

 

Problem 6: Weird sound on my bike

Reason: Might be battery low. (Ticking sound on right side when start button depressed)

Solution: Push start, change battery

 

Reason: If sound is on gearbox side, chain may be too slack

Solution: Check your chain tension 1st. Should have about 2 to 3cm slack, tested at the center of the bottom span of the chain. Anything more, get it tightened. Also, lubricate your chain.

 

 

Problem 7: - Exhaust Header got holes. Can repair?

Reason: Got one specific hole which is ok.

Solution: If unsure, post some pictures.

 

 

Problem 8: - Engine oil Dip stick broken (Broken part might be in engine)

Solution:

- Send to bikeshop.

- New dipstick costs around $11.

 

 

Problem 9: I have tried everything but to no avail. Any tow numbers please?

Solution:

- 67474740 Tiko cheong.

- 64560018 Wing Yap.

- 97384501 => Hello, you the tua chia one?

 

 

Problem 10: Engine Part Leaking Oil

Reason: Gasket Spoilt.

Solution: Bike shop, get it replaced

 

Reason: Cam chain tensioner spoilt.

Solution: Bike shop, get it replaced

 

 

Problem 11: When riding, bike lean to one side. Let go of handlebar, steering was shaky and wobbling

Reason: Might be steering cone problem.

Solution: Go bike shop to get it fixed. May also need re-alignment.

 

Reason: Wheel bearings spoilt.

Solution: Bike shop, get it changed.

 

Reason: Wheel alignment might have problem.

Solution: Bike shop, get it fixed.

 

 

Problem 12: Speedo is not working

Reason: The cable, or the gear at the end of the cable is spoilt or loose.

Solution: If loose, plug it back or tighten. Else needs replacement, go bike shop.

 

Reason: Speedo spoilt.

Solution: Bike shop.

 

 

Problem 13: My exhaust gives have a loud bang regularly. (Backfire)

Reason: Air fuel mixture too rich or too lean.

Solution: Retune the carb. (check problem 24)

 

 

Problem 14: I lost my bike Key!!! What to do??

Solution: Go find the key smith.

 

Solution: If want to change ignition, look for Ah Chong (Planet) or scrapyard.

 

 

Problem 15: Bike pickup super slow. Even slower than small cc cars.

Reason: Clutch is worn

Solution: Change your clutch plates.

 

Problem 16: Damaged Exhaust: Header got hole / Muffler loose or dropping.

Solution: Header got hole can weld it up.

Solution: Muffler dropping can cut open the pipe and take it out but pipe will sound louder.

Solution: Alternatively can change the whole system, pipe + header, about 300+-.

 

Problem 17: Hard to kick the gears

Reason: Clutch is worn

Solution: Change or top up EO.

Solution: Change clutch plate.

 

Reason: Your clutch cable is breaking.

Solution: Replace your clutch cable

 

Problem 18: When cold start, bike got "tick tick" sound

Reason: cam chain tensioner spoilt.

Solution: Change the cam chain tensioner.

Solution: If its rattling sound instead of "tick tick" sound, bring bike to mechanic.

 

Problem 19: Bike wobble for no apparent reason.

Reason: Might have problem with wheel bearings or tyre pressure.

Solution: Check that the tyre pressure is correct.

Solution: If tyre pressure is correct, most probably is the bearing spoilt.

Solution:Change new bearings.

 

Problem 20: In Vehicle Unit (IU) Spoilt.

Reason: There is a whole lot of reason, old, water seep in, etc etc.

Solution: But a second hand IU but need to transfer name.

Solution: Buy a new IU at $155.80 w GST.

Solution: Don't go into carparks or go through ERP.

 

Problem 21: Weak Battery.

Reason: Battery old. Cannot charge or hold properly. etc etc

Solution: Recharge the battery (Wet), Dry ones cannot be recharged?.

Solution: Most people change batteries instead of recharging.

Solution: If leaving bike alone for a long time, disconnect the battery to prevent further unnecessary drainage.

 

Problem 22: Need to step real hard for brake lights to light up.

Reason: There is a knob for adjustment, it might be loose

Solution: There is a black screw lookalike plastic knob( near the spring) located somewhere near the rear brake pedal. u can play around with the knob by turning to adjust the sensitivity of your rear brake when you apply brake.

 

Problem 23: IU Spoilt.

Reason: No reason in particular. If its spoilt, its spoilt.

Solution: Inspect at Vicom. Replace a new one if under warranty. If not, have to buy a new one at about $155 (Slim).

 

Problem 24: Backfire tooooo frequent. Like 3-5 times a day. Or when u stop normally, not even sudden brake.

Reason: Gasket at exhaust head leaking air. Or #2, Exhaust has holes

Solution: Replace gasket. Or #2, send it to Planet Motor (ahchong) to weld the holes, or get a second-hand exhaust or get one cheaper exhaust at LAB (must make order)

 

25: After turning off my engine there is a tick tick tick sound some where.

Reason: Exhast pipe is cooling down. Hot it expands so cold it turns back.

Solution: Do DIY exhaust wrap. Reduced backpressure = faster heat evacuation, leading to high speed silent running and silent cooldown after engine off. (Kalyan)

 

Problem 26: Cannot find neutral gear!

Solution: Gear oil not suitable, change different grade of gear oil (see gearoil thread for details)

Solution: Gear box dying.

Solution: Engine is overheated. (Running too lean/ Not enough engine oil.)

Solution: Clutch freeplay not enough

[spawn101]

Hi All,

i have a problem that has been plaguing me for months .. sent to bike shop, change quite a number of stuff but still giving me problem.

After travelling long distance, ~30km ... my bike engine can sometime die while when travelling slowly (gear 1). THis can also happen when stopping and moving again (at traffic light).

It is not easy to duplicate it (that mayb be why mechanic not able to fix it) as it happens once in a while but I feel this is very dangerous.

any ideas? thanks for your help

[vvss]

Hi All,

i have a problem that has been plaguing me for months .. sent to bike shop, change quite a number of stuff but still giving me problem.

After travelling long distance, ~30km ... my bike engine can sometime die while when travelling slowly (gear 1). THis can also happen when stopping and moving again (at traffic light).

It is not easy to duplicate it (that mayb be why mechanic not able to fix it) as it happens once in a while but I feel this is very dangerous.

any ideas? thanks for your help

 

sounds familiar to situation I encounterd many many years back, have you changed your spark plug, battery, rectifier, main air filter, fuel tank air filter, service your carbuerator, electric coil?? if you have changed the mentioned items and problem still exists, you may have to consider overhaul your engine.

[spawn101]

spark plug (changed), battery (no), rectifier, main air filter (changed), fuel tank air filter(no), service your carbuerator,(yes) electric coil(yes)

battery should be in good shape. Might try fuel tank air filter.

Do you think carburetor might be spoiled? I have not changed the carburetor yet.

[vvss]

spark plug (changed), battery (no), rectifier, main air filter (changed), fuel tank air filter(no), service your carbuerator,(yes) electric coil(yes)

battery should be in good shape. Might try fuel tank air filter.

Do you think carburetor might be spoiled? I have not changed the carburetor yet.

 

It seems that you have done quite a few trouble shooting already. There can be many possibilities for such case, however, you need to trouble shoot further to determine the actual cause.

 

The carburetor is unlikely to be the problem but cannot phase out the possibility yet, it is not priority at teh moment unless you had modified it.

Focus on trouble shooting the electrical parts first, i.e., ignition coil for sparks and magneto coil. From your description above, did you renew or "repair" the magneto coil?

 

There can be chances that your clutch plates worn out also.

Edited December 8, 2010 by vvss

[jB]

sounds familiar to situation I encounterd many many years back, have you changed your spark plug, battery, rectifier, main air filter, fuel tank air filter, service your carbuerator, electric coil?? if you have changed the mentioned items and problem still exists, you may have to consider overhaul your engine.

 

If most electrical changed, tuning since only at gear1 it happens? Which shop you went to? Perhaps ask mech tune for you opp of what you had, perhaps fast/slow pickup

 

 

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[kzone]

Have u resolve this? I had the same problem n Ah Chong replaced my choke. He said it was stuck n problem gone after replacement. The original looks fine to me so don't think u can check it urself if it's the same issue

Hi All,

i have a problem that has been plaguing me for months .. sent to bike shop, change quite a number of stuff but still giving me problem.

After travelling long distance, ~30km ... my bike engine can sometime die while when travelling slowly (gear 1). THis can also happen when stopping and moving again (at traffic light).

It is not easy to duplicate it (that mayb be why mechanic not able to fix it) as it happens once in a while but I feel this is very dangerous.

any ideas? thanks for your help

[naim]

guys... sry for the delay for my promise to upload pics on hw to solve a prob for those having difficulty engaging 1st gear...

 

so here they are:

 

Open your front sprocket cover (2 X 8mm bolts) and u will see this:

 

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b35/adiknaim/S7305059.jpg

the red circle is the where ur gear lever connects to ur gear shaft.. try n press down and up the lever a couple of times and see that whether ur shaft moves the same amount that ur lever does... if it doesn't, then urs is a minor fix and u may use my method...

 

tighten the 10mm bolt... dun overtighten it of cux! if it breaks, gd luck!

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b35/adiknaim/S7305057.jpg

 

all shud be ok.. play wif the lever, n if that is the fault, u shud hv no issues getting a solid "TAK" gear engage sound even wif ur hands...

 

if its already tight, and ur shaft moves together, yet the gear doesn't engage, then u might hv an issue wif the gearbox itself.. hope it helps some of u guys out there, without spending a bomb to the change the whole lever wen the fault is just a lose lever.. cheers!

Edited December 29, 2010 by naim

[Icomeforyou]

wow thanks a lot for that naim... really appreciate it

[byon]

Hi bros,

 

I'm having a severe sadness with my bike akin my wife suffering cancer. I recently sent my bike to a workshop at west coast to replace the cam chain tensioner and was told by the boss (sam) that i need to do a $200-$300 top overhaul as the timing chain is thinning already. It won't be long before the timing chain snaps and i'll have to pay more to do a $400-$600 full overhaul. He based it on my previous cam chain tensioner and his experience to suggest the overhaul.

 

He also suggested that i continue riding and don't think about it, when time is up, send the bike in and overhaul it. It will take 2 days for the completion of the overhaul.

 

I was wondering how can i verify if my bike requires overhaul and the accuracy of his judgment. I haven't sent my bike to other shops to get it checked, i was told that theres no way to check it as it still requires opening of the engine.

 

Please help!

 

 

Here's the cam chain tensioner,

http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/7274/photoin.jpg

[yanxi]

Hi All,

 

recently got my phantom and would appreciate if someone would try to interpret some of the sounds i've been hearing.

 

1) a ticking/clacking sound when pushing the bike.

 

2) during engine braking, as i am slowly releasing the clutch, there is a whirring sound that seems like a front sprocket/chain problem. I've changed the chain and it seems better but still occurs from time to time.

 

3) a sort of hissing sound when gg at higher speeds. it goes away when i clutch in.

 

thanks in advance!

[naim]

Hi bros,

 

I'm having a severe sadness with my bike akin my wife suffering cancer. I recently sent my bike to a workshop at west coast to replace the cam chain tensioner and was told by the boss (sam) that i need to do a $200-$300 top overhaul as the timing chain is thinning already. It won't be long before the timing chain snaps and i'll have to pay more to do a $400-$600 full overhaul. He based it on my previous cam chain tensioner and his experience to suggest the overhaul.

 

He also suggested that i continue riding and don't think about it, when time is up, send the bike in and overhaul it. It will take 2 days for the completion of the overhaul.

 

I was wondering how can i verify if my bike requires overhaul and the accuracy of his judgment. I haven't sent my bike to other shops to get it checked, i was told that theres no way to check it as it still requires opening of the engine.

 

Please help!

 

 

Here's the cam chain tensioner,

http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/7274/photoin.jpg

 

mine too cost ard $270.. which includes the tensioner n chain n all d necessary gaskets n seals.. cux my cam chain looks like it could use a chain.. so figured that since its already opened up, might as well change it..

[byon]

mine too cost ard $270.. which includes the tensioner n chain n all d necessary gaskets n seals.. cux my cam chain looks like it could use a chain.. so figured that since its already opened up, might as well change it..

 

 

naim bro, thanks for your reply.

 

 

how many days did your overhaul take?

 

the camchain in the picture is a new set. how does your cam chain look like that made you decide to do a change?

[systemx]

My bike has problems engaging to lower gears some times when stopping. Ah Chong changed the clutch already. Any other suggestions?

[deathmaster]

hey bros,

 

sometimes i got problem with starting the engine. I turn on ignition, got neutral light and headlight, but when i press on the starter button, nothing happens.

usually, when that happens, i just have to push the bike for a short distance and the starter would work normally once more.

 

can anyone advice me on the problem? thanks

[naim]

My bike has problems engaging to lower gears some times when stopping. Ah Chong changed the clutch already. Any other suggestions?

 

you adjusted ur clutch cable freeplay already?

 

hey bros,

 

sometimes i got problem with starting the engine. I turn on ignition, got neutral light and headlight, but when i press on the starter button, nothing happens.

usually, when that happens, i just have to push the bike for a short distance and the starter would work normally once more.

 

can anyone advice me on the problem? thanks

 

sounds like starter carbon finishing.. those were the symptoms i had.. eventually no matter wat i did, the starter did not work at all..

 

naim bro, thanks for your reply.

 

 

how many days did your overhaul take?

 

the camchain in the picture is a new set. how does your cam chain look like that made you decide to do a change?

 

it didn't look that bad, but the mech advised me to just change it since its already opened up.. mine wasn't an overhaul.. so it was done within a day.. i sent in the morning, was done by night.. do take note.. a TOP OVERHAUL is replacement of other components such as ur piston ring, piston, engine block gasket.. ask ur mech properly on wat he means by that...

[yanxi]

btw, 97384501 is ah thiam. (towing services)

[systemx]

you adjusted ur clutch cable freeplay already?

 

 

Yes of cos. Anyway, just to update, it turned out that the 3rd gear was spoilt... major repair almost $400 at Ah Chong's.

[yanxi]

Hi all, was wondering what this meant.

Reason: Air fuel mixture too rich (Crazy vibrations at higher revs making it too uncomfortable)

Solution: Tune air fuel mixture leaner (Turn screw anti-clockwise 1/2 - 1 round)

 

is tt the idling speed knob on the right side of the carb? any pictures anyone? thanks!

[Maka]

Hi PKs,

 

I had my ta200 for almost 2 years already... some common issues which didn't bother me much, but i would like to share and see if u guys have encountered such issues.

 

1) Any idea why during pick up, there is this "tock! tock!" sound coming from my chain? (i do lube my chain every 500km)

 

2) not sure if it's me, but my engine (the part where u pour EO in) is hotter than usual after a ride

 

3) During change gear, 4 to 5, there seems to be some power loss, like the throttle is nt responsive, it takes like 1 - 2s before the engine goes VrOooM!

 

4) Fuel consumption has gone from 40km/l to 30km/l =( very sian...

 

5) My clutch slips when i rev too much during smaller gears

 

Please enlighten me broS~

 

ty~