[Technical] Possible Solutions to your Phantom's Problem

[naim]

looks like d issue cud be from ur fuel system.. probably water in ur petrol.. i'd say jux keep an eye on d EO level over d next few weeks jux to cfm.. i hv not attended the clinic but if im nt wrong, its organized by ezzyoiler.. can PM him..

 

i personally love to mess around wif my bike and DIY myself.. more fun way to learn abt my bike.. dun be scared to do so! u will learn alot and can easily rectify most issues in d future urself..

[ashdee]

Hey guys,

 

After a few days of riding my EO level dropped quite a fair bit (from max level down to half level on dip stick) and white smoke still present (very smelly too, lol). Also met up with ezzyoiler yesterday (got to install his raved oiler, very nice..) and had a chat, got a lot of tips from him.. He also advised to replace the rings.. Thus, went over to Ah Koon (since nearby to office) and booked for an overhaul, which he can only do late this week or early next week (he very busy).

 

In the meantime, is it safe to bring out the bike? I mean so long I keep topping up the EO to make sure it doesn't 'dry up'.. On average I'll be riding 40km++ per day..

[naim]

yup.. it will still be fine as long as thr is always sufficient EO...

[revhappy]

Hey guys,

 

After a few days of riding my EO level dropped quite a fair bit (from max level down to half level on dip stick) and white smoke still present (very smelly too, lol). Also met up with ezzyoiler yesterday (got to install his raved oiler, very nice..) and had a chat, got a lot of tips from him.. He also advised to replace the rings.. Thus, went over to Ah Koon (since nearby to office) and booked for an overhaul, which he can only do late this week or early next week (he very busy).

 

In the meantime, is it safe to bring out the bike? I mean so long I keep topping up the EO to make sure it doesn't 'dry up'.. On average I'll be riding 40km++ per day..

 

How many years COE left in your bike? Do consider whether its worth overhauling.

[naim]

yeah.. i agree.. must see hw long left.. if like 1 year left.. i rather top up every few days than spend almost $400 on overhauling..

[ashdee]

Actually slightly less than a year.. still thinking whether to top up the coe, coz i dont think i'll be upgrading to a bigger bike, and dont think I'm getting a newer bike either (dont want loan, plus next upgrade is car lorr).. Dont mind keeping this for later to play around and customise.. I mean, boys must have their toys..

[ashdee]

But thanks for the heads up! I'll keep it in mind though..

[ahch0ng]

if backfire/ popping sound occurs...how do i know if im running too lean or rich...?

[CSV]

look at your spark plug.

 

if the tip of the spark plug is white/clean, it's probably too lean.

 

if the tip is black with soot, its too rich.

 

perfect balance is the colour of teh tarik.

 

most likely you are running rich with the backfire popping.

[abang phantom]

Hi guys,

Anyone knows where the fuel pump located??

Anyone changed it before? how much eh??

[ahch0ng]

look at your spark plug.

 

if the tip of the spark plug is white/clean, it's probably too lean.

 

if the tip is black with soot, its too rich.

 

perfect balance is the colour of teh tarik.

 

most likely you are running rich with the backfire popping.

 

 

roger that, thanks!

[phucker]

Hi guys, have some problem with my iu recently. IU always don't power up even with cash card in. Went 2 times to vicom n got my IU replaced. But after riding back hm, IU problem persist. I am suspecting that the connecting point on my bike may be faulty. Will be heading to bike shop to see if it's bike prob or IU. Been frustrating n hope that you experienced riders out there can assist. I'll keep you guys update if prob is fixed. Thanks!!

[naim]

just trace the IU cable to where it is tapped from.. mine is to the wiring harness on when u open the LHS chrome cover... just check the connection lar.. at least try rectify urself if its IU problem or purely poor workmanship wif d electricals..

[armani123sg]

Hi guys, have some problem with my iu recently. IU always don't power up even with cash card in. Went 2 times to vicom n got my IU replaced. But after riding back hm, IU problem persist. I am suspecting that the connecting point on my bike may be faulty. Will be heading to bike shop to see if it's bike prob or IU. Been frustrating n hope that you experienced riders out there can assist. I'll keep you guys update if prob is fixed. Thanks!!

 

last time i had this problem on my phantom. soon after, i had difficulty starting my bike. cause my starter motor was spoilt. went to planet motor to get my starter motor repaired for $60. then e iu problem went away also. what i observed is that the bike is grounded from the starter motor and iu connection was from the ground of the bike. so got issue when e starter motor was spoilt.

[ahch0ng]

does phantom work better at a cooler temperature(such as at night) versus day time ? mine feels better and more responsive at night than in the day where there's a hot sun...@@

[naim]

since our engine is air-cooled, its very dependant on ambient air temperature.. so, USUALLY a cooler engine runs better lar... in the cold morning mist even more shiok! normally cylinder heat temperature of my bike runs ard 180 degrees.. at nite, maybe abt 160-170... rain, below 100!

[Interference]

Hi, Recently started having a weird problem, few days ago, my low beam went out, so switched to high beam. All was fine. Next day, when I started the engine, the low beam worked fine. Then a few minutes later, it went out. Seems that the low beam works from cold start only. This is a new bulb.... any ideas?

[sparklight]

Wiring issues. Did you open up the headlamp to check the wirings? this happens on and off due to our movements and vibrations of the bike.

[armani123sg]

Hi, Recently started having a weird problem, few days ago, my low beam went out, so switched to high beam. All was fine. Next day, when I started the engine, the low beam worked fine. Then a few minutes later, it went out. Seems that the low beam works from cold start only. This is a new bulb.... any ideas?

 

when my fren had his problem, he went to planet. guess what ah chong did? he took a can of WD40, and SPAMMED it in the switch area. like really spam!!! haha! then ok liao. power right.

[jtzx]

Phantom TA200/TA150 List of Problems and Solution

 

Problem 1: Exhaust emitting white smoke.

Reason: Engine oil is leaking into your chamber.

Solution: Pistol rings needs to be changed. Go to a bike workshop.

 

Reason: Your bike has a 2 stroke engine(ta150).

Solution: Its normal.

 

 

Problem 2: Engine stalls in heavy rain and unable / weak to start.

Reason: Spark plug could be getting wet by the rain causing it not not function

Solution: Remove, dry the spark plug and put it back properly. Go get the plug cap replaced.

 

Reason: Air fuel mixture may be too rich or lean.

Solution: Tune your carb to a leaner setting (turn screw anti-clockwise by 1/4).

Turning the screw clockwise to enrich the mixture. (once again, tune in 1/4 or 1/2 turns of the air correction screw, located on the LEFT side of the carb)

Bike tends to rev rapidly but have poor acceleration if lean, and if too rich, will have "spongy" / slow throttle response at high speeds.

If in need of advise / demonstration sms pandora's kitten at 93270801 (advice/demo given is FOC)

 

Reason: Air leakages.

Solution: Change some of the rubber parts in tank.

 

Reason: Air filter clogged.

Solution : Get your air filter changed. You are advised to inspect the air filter every 4000 or so kms and change it at 10k (Honda warranty service manual)

 

Problem 3: Flat / Punctured Tyres

Solution: Try to inflate tyre with portable pump / bicycle pump then go bike or tyre shop. DO NOT ride on flat tyres as they may damage your tyre or wheel.

 

Solution: Use tyre repair kit, plug and pump = good to go. Kit can be bought at LAB.

Solution 2: Buy a can of fix a flat from Carrefour or petrol stations, put it in your box.

 

Problem 4: Cannot / Hard to start bike

Reason: Battery may be weak (confirmed by a tick sound from the right side cover under the seat).

Solution: Push Start(Clutch in after running with bike, release, give a quick throttle and clutch in) and go get battery replaced or ride to charge(if still can be charged).

You are advised to use third gear to push start (due to Phantom's short gearing) or even fourth on very slippery driveways (such as on some landed properties)

 

Reason: Fuse may be blown.

Solution: Check Fuse. Fuse is located on right side of bike. Remove chrome cover under the seat and see. Look out for the centre of the fuse if its broken then FUSED lor. Change new one.

 

Reason: Bike is in gear, kill switch is on, no petrol.

Solution: Obvious.

 

Reason: Rectifier issue (despite new battery, bike soon becomes hard to start again)

Solution: Get mechanic to check with a voltage meter. Ah chong has one.

 

Reason: Petrol topped up too full - Don't laugh.

Solution: The petrol tank is not meant to be filled to the brim. Leave some space for air.

 

Reason: Water in petrol

Solution: Check that fuel cap is secure and no leaks

 

++ Reason: If everything is working fine CDI might be spoilt

Solution: Tow to shop and change..2nd hand one will cause app $100 1st hand $200+

Others:

- Check ignition coil for sparks.

- Check magneto coil.

 

 

Problem 5: Cant go more den 80 km/h

Reason: You are not in the 6th gear

Solution: Down 1 time 1st gear. up 5 times to sixth gear

Solution: If you have very poor acceleration when throttle is opened, you are running lean. Enrich mixture by 1/2 to 1 turn of the air correction screw.

 

Reason: If confirm no 6th gear, gear box may be in bad shape

Solution: Go to a reputable workshop for a checkup, may need to over haul.

 

Reason: Insufficient Engine Oil (Very bad)

Solution: Check with dipstick as according to manual. Buy Engine Oil from petrol kiosk and top up.

 

Reason: Clutch may have been worn off (Engine reving very high but no power to go any faster)

Solution: Bike shop chance clutch.

 

Reason: Air fuel mixture too rich (Crazy vibrations at higher revs making it too uncomfortable)

Solution: Tune air fuel mixture leaner (Turn screw anti-clockwise 1/2 - 1 round)

 

Reason: Sprocket may be worn off

Solution: Change sprocket and chain.

 

 

Problem 6: Weird sound on my bike

Reason: Might be battery low. (Ticking sound on right side when start button depressed)

Solution: Push start, change battery

 

Reason: If sound is on gearbox side, chain may be too slack

Solution: Check your chain tension 1st. Should have about 2 to 3cm slack, tested at the center of the bottom span of the chain. Anything more, get it tightened. Also, lubricate your chain.

Solution: If you are using spray on chain lube, dirt and grease may be thrown off the chain during normal operation. When a lot of grease accumulates on the chain tensioner (rubber cylinder) and swingarm protector (rubber bar) the chain will emit a loud sound as though running through sand. Scrape and wipe away the excess grease and enjoy the quietness.

 

 

Problem 7: - Exhaust Header got holes. Can repair?

Reason: Got one specific hole which is ok.

Solution: If unsure, post some pictures.

 

 

Problem 8: - Engine oil Dip stick broken (Broken part might be in engine)

Solution:

- Send to bikeshop.

- New dipstick costs around $11.

 

 

Problem 9: I have tried everything but to no avail. Any tow numbers please?

Solution:

- 67474740 Tiko cheong.

- 64560018 Wing Yap.

- 97384501 => Hello, you the tua chia one?

 

 

Problem 10: Engine Part Leaking Oil

Reason: Gasket Spoilt.

Solution: Bike shop, get it replaced

 

Reason: Cam chain tensioner spoilt.

Solution: Bike shop, get it replaced

 

 

Problem 11: When riding, bike lean to one side. Let go of handlebar, steering was shaky and wobbling

Reason: Might be steering cone problem.

Solution: Go bike shop to get it fixed. May also need re-alignment.

 

Reason: Wheel bearings spoilt.

Solution: Bike shop, get it changed.

 

Reason: Wheel alignment might have problem.

Solution: Bike shop, get it fixed.

 

 

Problem 12: Speedo is not working

Reason: The cable, or the gear at the end of the cable is spoilt or loose.

Solution: If loose, plug it back or tighten. Else needs replacement, go bike shop.

 

Reason: Speedo spoilt.

Solution: Bike shop.

 

 

Problem 13: My exhaust gives have a loud bang regularly. (Backfire)

Reason: Air fuel mixture too rich or too lean.

Solution: Retune the carb. (check problem 24)

 

 

Problem 14: I lost my bike Key!!! What to do??

Solution: Go find the key smith.

 

Solution: If want to change ignition, look for Ah Chong (Planet) or scrapyard.

 

 

Problem 15: Bike pickup super slow. Even slower than small cc cars.

Reason: Clutch is worn

Solution: Change your clutch plates.

Solution: Fuel/air mixture too lean giving poor acceleration and a hot engine

 

Problem 16: Damaged Exhaust: Header got hole / Muffler loose or dropping.

Solution: Header got hole can weld it up.

Solution: Muffler dropping can cut open the pipe and take it out but pipe will sound louder.

Solution: Alternatively can change the whole system, pipe + header, about 300+-.

 

Problem 17: Hard to kick the gears

Reason: Clutch is worn

Solution: Change or top up EO.

Solution: Change clutch plate.

 

Reason: Your clutch cable is breaking.

Solution: Replace your clutch cable

 

Problem 18: When cold start, bike got "tick tick" sound

Reason: cam chain tensioner spoilt.

Solution: Change the cam chain tensioner.

Solution: If its rattling sound instead of "tick tick" sound, bring bike to mechanic.

 

Problem 19: Bike wobble for no apparent reason.

Reason: Might have problem with wheel bearings or tyre pressure.

Solution: Check that the tyre pressure is correct.

Solution: If tyre pressure is correct, most probably is the bearing spoilt.

Solution:Change new bearings.

 

Problem 20: In Vehicle Unit (IU) Spoilt.

Reason: There is a whole lot of reason, old, water seep in, etc etc.

Solution: But a second hand IU but need to transfer name.

Solution: Buy a new IU at $155.80 w GST.

Solution: Don't go into carparks or go through ERP.

 

Problem 21: Weak Battery.

Reason: Battery old. Cannot charge or hold properly. etc etc

Solution: Recharge the battery (Wet), Dry ones cannot be recharged?.

Solution: Most people change batteries instead of recharging.

Solution: If leaving bike alone for a long time, disconnect the battery to prevent further unnecessary drainage.

 

Problem 22: Need to step real hard for brake lights to light up.

Reason: There is a knob for adjustment, it might be loose

Solution: There is a black screw lookalike plastic knob( near the spring) located somewhere near the rear brake pedal. u can play around with the knob by turning to adjust the sensitivity of your rear brake when you apply brake.

 

Problem 23: IU Spoilt.

Reason: No reason in particular. If its spoilt, its spoilt.

Solution: Inspect at Vicom. Replace a new one if under warranty. If not, have to buy a new one at about $155 (Slim).

 

Problem 24: Backfire tooooo frequent. Like 3-5 times a day. Or when u stop normally, not even sudden brake.

Reason: Gasket at exhaust head leaking air. Or #2, Exhaust has holes

Solution: Replace gasket. Or #2, send it to Planet Motor (ahchong) to weld the holes, or get a second-hand exhaust or get one cheaper exhaust at LAB (must make order)

Solution: Fuel-air mixture likely too rich. Backfires when throttle is closed, due to residual fuel afterburning in the exhaust header. This is bad for the valves and the catalytic converter.

 

25: After turning off my engine there is a tick tick tick sound some where.

Reason: Exhast pipe is cooling down. Hot it expands so cold it turns back.

Solution: Do DIY exhaust wrap. Reduced backpressure = faster heat evacuation, leading to high speed silent running and silent cooldown after engine off. (Pandora's Kitten :3)

 

Problem 26: Cannot find neutral gear!

Solution: Gear oil not suitable, change different grade of gear oil (see gearoil thread for details)

Solution: Gear box dying.

Solution: Engine is overheated. (Running too lean/ Not enough engine oil. An overheating engine may cause excessive oil consumption, especially when using less tolerant mineral oil)

Solution: Clutch freeplay not enough

 

Problem 27: Handlebar position is not centered (while riding). Handlebars are "straight" but wheel points to one side.

Solution: Lock the wheel, grab the handlebars firmly and twist the bars until straightened. The risers are flexible to some degree, due to the vibration damping rubber washers. (Demonstrated by Planet Motors)

Solution: If your steering lock is spoilt, put the wheel against a pillar or a wall.

 

Problem 28: Bike hard to U-turn. Riding position not comfortable as handlebars too high up.

Solution: Adjust the angle of the handlebars. Loosen the bottom two screws of the risers, pull back the bars so they "rise" towards your face. This will give you a more relaxed riding posture and you are able to enjoy a greater turning angle at low speeds. If your handlebars are set to rise straight upwards forcing you to stretch forward and upwards to steer, your elbows will prevent you from turning easily at low speeds.

[sparklight]

when my fren had his problem, he went to planet. guess what ah chong did? he took a can of WD40, and SPAMMED it in the switch area. like really spam!!! haha! then ok liao. power right.

 

Bro, WD40 is helping in the closing of electrical circuit. Meaning, it can conduct electricity, therefore it works, as long the WD 40 still be around. When it dries then... Er... probably back to square 1?

[naim]

I guess d WD40 nt so much of a conductor.. it actly cleans d contact surfaces in d switches instead.. sumtyms dirt n rust might affect d contacts.. it saved several of my switches alr..

 

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[superakan]

Dear people, awhile ago, i can still start the bike normally, but recently it can only be started by clutch in with start button. Anybody know what happen ? Spark plug is new btw.

[naim]

Dear people, awhile ago, i can still start the bike normally, but recently it can only be started by clutch in with start button. Anybody know what happen ? Spark plug is new btw.

 

wen u put it into neutral, is the neutral light on?

[followthelaw]

anybody know where can install a damper for phantom.........i think i saw a phantom install b4....nice man!!!

 

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