Honda RVF400 Riders

[DaN zI]

shitty weather.

 

u wanna put aeroplane liao rite gey siao

[DazeWei]

This is the new routing, 2 photoshoot places have been added:

 

ITINERARY:

 

9.30 p.m. --- Meetup/Fast Food Dinner/Mingle

 

10.30 p.m. --- MOVEOFF from Kallang KFC

Travel down Geylang, oogle @ prostitutes :-P

 

11.15 p.m. --- Photo Taking Place #1 - Marina Bay*

Carpark photo. Moveoff when done.

 

12.00 a.m. --- Photo Taking Place #2 - CBD*

(Note: This is a “No Bikes Allowed” area. Pls behave!)

 

12.45 a.m. --- Cathay Cinelesiure

Carpark. Rest / Toilet / Hangout

 

01.45 a.m. --- 2nd location*

(Rest/toilet break/breathe sea air, oogle++)

 

02.25 a.m. --- MOVEOFF from “2nd Location”

 

03.00 a.m. --- Seletar Dam (aka Yishun Dam)

(Final destination for the outing)

 

04.00 a.m. --- Stay on, or OTOT leave for home

 

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/8387/rvfoutingposternk8.jpg

 

 

Riders List

(begin inserting your particulars here) >>>

 

1) redbeacon - the other Nelson

2) natgw - come come come. pls show ur support.

3) fufu

4) DanzI

5) kenNUFC - hope more will turn up and stay throughout the outing

6) bigbounce - both days also can

7) Nels0n (7 june!, 31st on duty )

8) yanwei - Noobie Rider also...

9) slap

10) blade1313 - (if my bike still with me and if i'm free)

11) Joshua-- jus got a few months ago

12) Makkusu (max)-No preference, 31 May or 7 June also can Y(^.^)Y

13) Destinee (Any day also no problem)

14) RVF ROSSI.(no promises yet)Hopefully my bike is done by then.

15) linglila - Andy --- (auto inserted, not confirmed)

16) The^Beast - the other Nelson --- (\\Oldies reunion)

17) alyce - Alyce --- (auto inserted, not confirmed, will be riding in my small bike if I'm coming)

18) jus^ride

19) Jym

20) tHoMaSO_o (Thomas aka Cai Ong) Added by me muahahahahahaha!!!!!

21) LamerFornica(kaypo) - FYI: ex RVF rider

22) Ah_Toh

23) Daze`Wei (join ya from cini)

24) Brick

[DazeWei]

do you know what pc3 is for and how it works? if u do, then u will know why rvf cannot install already.

 

Hahahaha

 

most prob not joining the outing. last min need to go auntie hse..

 

Wah kao !! Because of u den i go den lor . . u like tt

 

awwww so sad.

 

Fufu more sad . .

 

shitty weather.

 

Sun come out liao mah . .

[fufu]

expected ppl going.... less than 15 just a speculation hehe

[DazeWei]

expected ppl going.... less than 15 just a speculation hehe

 

haha . . so sad rite? Anyway i think me and brick joining them at kkfc 1st . . After that then meet u and shytboy

[DazeWei]

lol....dun see me up lar.. i short de,i see u up!..whaha.. sianz man..dun OT leh..its fri dude! Time to enjoy...

 

So Yest u got enjoy our accompany??

 

I can give u house i can give u house

[NC35]

i try to make it? call u never answer lor.

[DazeWei]

i try to make it? call u never answer lor.

 

pai seh . . was taking power nap . . The weather really too good !!!!!

[natgw]

daze ah so later u joining us at kkfc?

[NC35]

ya lor just wake up.. going simei now..

[natgw]

ya lor just wake up.. going simei now..

 

come find me ah?

[redbeacon]

btw...is there NO WAY that rvf can install pc3? even if got money oso cannot ah?

 

do you know what pc3 is for and how it works? if u do, then u will know why rvf cannot install already.

 

Ok, for the sake of newbies here, PC3 is actually loose English "biker" slang for "Power Commander III".

 

To understand how this enhancement add-on works, you need to know how a Class 2 bike (or some rare newer Class 2A/2B) bike works.

 

Class 2 bikes have what's called:

 

- ECU, or Engine Control Unit. Essentially the brain of the bike.

- EFi, or Electronic Fuel Injection for short. The ECU controls the EFi.

 

In the heart of every new bike is the ECU. It's a computer that controls the bike's engine...from the amount of petrol and air that should go into the engine, how and when the spark plug should fire, and many other smart features that make the bike's engine run...

 

EFi, as what's simply explained per the above explanation, simply put -- is a smart petrol delivery system, commanded and controlled by the ECU.

It sprays the petrol directly into the engine (pistons). It even determines and electronically controls the amount of petrol based on how much throttle you twist.

Yep, it's that smart.

 

Old bikes like our RVF don't have this kinda luxury, or an ECU either!! Instead, ours is mechanical. Our RVF contains lousy 4 carburetors -- a container that holds your petrol/air mixture before it gets sucked** into your engine. How much petrol and air gets sprayed into our carburetor (and then into our engine) is determined by how much the throttle cable "moves". How we "move" this throttle cable is we...err...twist the throttle. That's how we go faster.

 

So answer is, our bike doesn't have an ECU...how are we going to install a PC3 on it?

 

Anyways, back to ECU. So we got a brainy computer managing the petrol intake to a Class 2 bike eh? So who programs this computer and makes it work? Yep, the factory that produced this bike. They're the ones that decide that, oh say for example, if the throttle isn't twisted, the ECU should spray little petrol and air in and make the spark plug fire less - that's called idling. If the throttle is twisted all the way 100%, spray a maximum burst of petrol and air into the engine and have the spark plug fire faster (in association with the RPM of the engine).

 

This is called "Mapping" and a "mapping" is a set of computer instructions inside the ECU that determine what kind of petrol/air/plug firing the bike's engine need, based on different kinds of throttle (twist) positions.

 

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/1489/40rollonzj6.jpg

 

However, sometimes, Class 2 bikers usually think that their stock ECU is "not enough" for their speed and power cravings.

 

Power Commander is a kind of aftermarket add-on that plugs itself alongside the ECU, "tweaking" how the ECU works. It kinda "cheats" the ECU by changing the way the petrol/air intake works, and how the spark plug fires -- usually it's a set of "cheat" instructions making the petrol/air intake increased in some places, and probably making the spark plug fire earlier*

 

Look at the picture above. This picture shows the "mapping" of a bike running on a stock ECU (red line), versus a bike with a Power Commander installed alongside the ECU (blue line). Yep, it's an improvement of response with that blue one...

 

NOTE: As always, Class 2 bikes should follow the same mantra that the Biking Confucious has put out, regards of what kinda bike you ride, big or small:

 

Do your bike a good favour...get it serviced. Also, get a matching Full System and other performance-enhancing equipment to go with it.

 

This way, your Power Commander won't be just as useless as a white elephant.

 

As an analogy, it's like how computer gamers "overclock" their computers. For bikes, the way to do it is to install stuff such as a Power Commander.

 

==========

 

* Studying spark plug firing intervals -- or how "soon" the spark plug fires, is an advanced bike-mechanics and performance tuning topic that I will not discuss here cuz it's out of the scope of this explanation.

 

** To make things simple, I decided NOT to talk about air pressure here. In actuality, this Physics topic is how the petrol/air mixture gets delivered into the engine

[natgw]

Ok, for the sake of newbies here, PC3 is actually loose English "biker" slang for "Power Commander III".

 

To understand how this enhancement add-on works, you need to know how a Class 2 bike (or some rare newer Class 2A/2B) bike works.

 

Class 2 bikes have what's called:

 

- ECU, or Engine Control Unit. Essentially the brain of the bike.

- EFi, or Electronic Fuel Injection for short. The ECU controls the EFi.

 

In the heart of every new bike is the ECU. It's a computer that controls the bike's engine...from the amount of petrol and air that should go into the engine, how and when the spark plug should fire, and many other smart features that make the bike's engine run...

 

EFi, as what's simply explained per the above explanation, simply put -- is a smart petrol delivery system, commanded and controlled by the ECU.

It sprays the petrol directly into the engine (pistons). It even determines and electronically controls the amount of petrol based on how much throttle you twist.

Yep, it's that smart.

 

Old bikes like our RVF don't have this kinda luxury, or an ECU either!! Instead, ours is mechanical. Our RVF contains lousy 4 carburetors -- a container that holds your petrol/air mixture before it gets sucked** into your engine. How much petrol and air gets sprayed into our carburetor (and then into our engine) is determined by how much the throttle cable "moves". How we "move" this throttle cable is we...err...twist the throttle. That's how we go faster.

 

So answer is, our bike doesn't have an ECU...how are we going to install a PC3 on it?

 

Anyways, back to ECU. So we got a brainy computer managing the petrol intake to a Class 2 bike eh? So who programs this computer and makes it work? Yep, the factory that produced this bike. They're the ones that decide that, oh say for example, if the throttle isn't twisted, the ECU should spray little petrol and air in and make the spark plug fire less - that's called idling. If the throttle is twisted all the way 100%, spray a maximum burst of petrol and air into the engine and have the spark plug fire faster (in association with the RPM of the engine).

 

This is called "Mapping" and a "mapping" is a set of computer instructions inside the ECU that determine what kind of petrol/air/plug firing the bike's engine need, based on different kinds of throttle (twist) positions.

 

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/1489/40rollonzj6.jpg

 

However, sometimes, Class 2 bikers usually think that their stock ECU is "not enough" for their speed and power cravings.

 

Power Commander is a kind of aftermarket add-on that plugs itself alongside the ECU, "tweaking" how the ECU works. It kinda "cheats" the ECU by changing the way the petrol/air intake works, and how the spark plug fires -- usually it's a set of "cheat" instructions making the petrol/air intake increased in some places, and probably making the spark plug fire earlier*

 

Look at the picture above. This picture shows the "mapping" of a bike running on a stock ECU (red line), versus a bike with a Power Commander installed alongside the ECU (blue line). Yep, it's an improvement of response with that blue one...

 

 

 

As an analogy, it's like how computer gamers "overclock" their computers. For bikes, the way to do it is to install stuff such as a Power Commander.

 

==========

 

* Studying spark plug firing intervals -- or how "soon" the spark plug fires, is an advanced bike-mechanics and performance tuning topic that I will not discuss here cuz it's out of the scope of this explanation.

 

** To make things simple, I decided NOT to talk about air pressure here. In actuality, this Physics topic is how the petrol/air mixture gets delivered into the engine

 

excellent explanation and article.

[DaN zI]

hmmx.. maybe joinin u all late . will sms/call redbeacon k when i joinin . paiseh

[natgw]

hmmx.. maybe joinin u all late . will sms/call redbeacon k when i joinin . paiseh

 

u coming in ur rvf or lambo taxi?

[HRCSGP]

Hmm why not if anybody intrested I do import a programmable ignition race CDI for RVF made by MotoGP's Magneto Marelli..750 if anyone got the money haha..better then HRC

[redbeacon]

Hmm why not if anybody intrested I do import a programmable ignition race CDI for RVF made by MotoGP's Magneto Marelli..750 if anyone got the money haha..better then HRC

So question here: Will an aftermarket CDI affect the way the engines turn. Cuz I've been hearing if a CDI provides some kinda boost, will I have to get a stronger piston, conrods, and etc to compensate?

 

Just asking.

[DaN zI]

siaNz back home . bike got problem again hAix..

[Orange-]

So question here: Will an aftermarket CDI affect the way the engines turn. Cuz I've been hearing if a CDI provides some kinda boost, will I have to get a stronger piston, conrods, and etc to compensate?

 

Just asking.

 

 

thx for organising.....

 

 

lalalala... sadded.. my baby in hospital...

[DaN zI]

thx for organising.....

 

 

lalalala... sadded.. my baby in hospital...

 

mine going hospital

[MC28]

All early zhao..

 

Danzi: Ur's the one with the sound right??If it's you, check front wheel bearings or front spocket area..

[DaN zI]

All early zhao..

 

Danzi: Ur's the one with the sound right??If it's you, check front wheel bearings or front spocket area..

 

YA .. u which one ah y like nv see u ? lolz . e sound when movin is like rubber rub against dono wat things. but when stoppin is like metal against metal or wat. veri rough and loud sound when stoppin,means slow movin . if fast den rubber sound leh

[MC28]

YA .. u which one ah y like nv see u ? lolz . e sound when movin is like rubber rub against dono wat things. but when stoppin is like metal against metal or wat. veri rough and loud sound when stoppin,means slow movin . if fast den rubber sound leh

 

The only black colour suzuki.At cine before moving off, u turn around and look at me for awhile, wanted to wave but u turn back quite fast..

 

Do check ur chain also...Sounds like a crooked joint to me thou..

[DazeWei]

The only black colour suzuki.At cine before moving off, u turn around and look at me for awhile, wanted to wave but u turn back quite fast..

 

Do check ur chain also...Sounds like a crooked joint to me thou..

 

Why didnt join us for photo taking ??? :angry:

[DaN zI]

The only black colour suzuki.At cine before moving off, u turn around and look at me for awhile, wanted to wave but u turn back quite fast..

 

Do check ur chain also...Sounds like a crooked joint to me thou..

 

oh..wearin e kagayama or white/grey shoei FF one ah?my chain also got prob ah.. alamak sianz.