HARD RUN-IN

[ginGer]

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

pse share yr experiences....

[deanz4]

i did it but not to hard though... did once only wack it till 120km/h at 5th gear .. dont know if that u consider as a hard running in..

[rhema83]

Just ride it normally. Don't limit rpms, don't overrev. Revving up a bit occasionally is ok.

[Zer0]

I ran mine in at the track, short shifted a bit rather than taking it right out to redline earlier in the day, last session of the day took it right out to the red line a few times, had about 100km on it on the road before.

 

Bike had good power and ran really well, never used any oil at all.

[ginGer]

so the article is saying rev all the way near redline, in ALL gears

 

i tink most of us amateur riders won't notice negliable loss of power even if a new bike wasn't properly ran-in bah

 

so any breakdown so far

[Zer0]

It's not really about power, you do gain a few HP but the big benefit is better ring seal so your bike will not start burning oil/blowing smoke and the engine will last longer.

[Demon]

I wouldn't do it if I were you. All jap cars would require you to run in with thin oil, and return the car at about 1500 - 2000km to change to regular oil. If you were to run it hard during this period, the thin oil is not designed to cope with such load, and you may end up with a seize-up engine, and complete void your warranty because you didn't adhere to proper running-in procedure.

 

For BMW, it's a different story, these cars are pre run-in, ie. no need to run in. Just come back after 25,000km for next oil change. Once you collect your car, you can run it as hard as it is designed for.

 

 

 

[Cybernation]

This method has always been controversial. Technology nowadays is good enough to let the engine withstand such intense treatment in my opinion. Machining are more precise, cylinder wall are carved in micro cubic meters to prevent possibility of piston jam. Some benefit from it using the method. I can say majority from what I’ve seen so far. Hp readings are some what higher too, its true.

 

If time is the factor and your ride is new I can say it is safe to perform the hard run in method. If you are not confident to do it yourself then do it on a dyno. The end result is the same.

 

But on the other hand if you select the factory recommended way it is not wrong also. Just that is takes a longer while before it is considered “break in”.

[MC28]

From friends who did this method straight after he got his bike on a dyno machine, it doesnt give better power...

[chottoh_89]

Originally posted by MC28@Sep 24 2006, 05:46 PM

From friends who did this method straight after he got his bike on a dyno machine, it doesnt give better power...

there is different plus some more power.

[WW]

i cant say it will give added bhp, but i comfrim save your time and urge to whack your bike soon cos after a dtno run-in, you can whack your bike immediately.. I dyno run in my k5 and till now not a single problem.

[MC28]

Originally posted by chottoh_89@Oct 2 2006, 09:07 PM

there is different plus some more power.

Which is why the method is controversial, some do feel better power riding it on the road or even on the dyno charts...

 

But some who did it cant say it offers better power..

 

So yea, controversial it is...

[GerardSantaCruz]

jesus, not this shiete again pls. the last time it turns out ugly after i disagree with hard run-in.

[MC28]

Originally posted by GerardSantaCruz@Oct 4 2006, 02:47 PM

jesus, not this shiete again pls. the last time it turns out ugly after i disagree with hard run-in.

Haha..Bro...There's always believers and non-believers...

[GerardSantaCruz]

Originally posted by MC28@Oct 4 2006, 02:59 PM

Haha..Bro...There's always believers and non-believers...

yea. it's ok if everyone gives their views and up to individual to decide what is best for them. not ok for war of words, abuse and whatnot.

[fattsum]

i will try on this method on my next bike... my previous bike was 1st hand... do it in easy way... even tho nothing bad happen the 1st year... the piston blow on the second years.... that time i was running about 160 - 170kmh on KJE... suddenly my tyre locked-up... lucky i manage to pull clutch and swerve to left side of the highway... btw i was riding Sp back then... bring to the bike shop he charge me 650 for the block and piston...

[chottoh_89]

Originally posted by WW@Oct 4 2006, 12:51 AM

i cant say it will give added bhp, but i comfrim save your time and urge to whack your bike soon cos after a dtno run-in, you can whack your bike immediately.. I dyno run in my k5 and till now not a single problem.

Totally agree

[MC28]

Originally posted by chottoh_89@Oct 4 2006, 04:14 PM

Totally agree

Bro, so u chut k6 750???Or the 600??

[myxilplix]

My friend did a careful easy by-the-book run-in on his recently purchased Fireblade. Then last month he went on a trip to japan and got to visit the honda factory there. He said as soon as the Fireblade came off the assembly line the tech put it onto a roller, checked the bike, started it up, let it warm up and then revved it like crazy and then run it hard thru the gears. This was apprently their test on every Fireblade that comes off the assembly line. Through the translator the tech told him not to worry so much about the running in, just do the required oil changes and ride as per normal.

 

My friend now considers his first 2000km on his bike to be wasted cos he was taking it easy.

[WW]

Originally posted by fattsum@Oct 4 2006, 04:05 PM

i will try on this method on my next bike... my previous bike was 1st hand... do it in easy way... even tho nothing bad happen the 1st year... the piston blow on the second years.... that time i was running about 160 - 170kmh on KJE... suddenly my tyre locked-up... lucky i manage to pull clutch and swerve to left side of the highway... btw i was riding Sp back then... bring to the bike shop he charge me 650 for the block and piston...

Hard run-in are only recommend on four stroke bike and bigger cc bike.

[ginGer]

Originally posted by myxilplix@Oct 4 2006, 07:14 PM

My friend did a careful easy by-the-book run-in on his recently purchased Fireblade. Then last month he went on a trip to japan and got to visit the honda factory there. He said as soon as the Fireblade came off the assembly line the tech put it onto a roller, checked the bike, started it up, let it warm up and then revved it like crazy and then run it hard thru the gears. This was apprently their test on every Fireblade that comes off the assembly line. Through the translator the tech told him not to worry so much about the running in, just do the required oil changes and ride as per normal.

 

My friend now considers his first 2000km on his bike to be wasted cos he was taking it easy.

huh onli firblade tested ah

other models leh

[ehem]

Originally posted by myxilplix@Oct 4 2006, 07:09 PM

My friend did a careful easy by-the-book run-in on his recently purchased Fireblade. Then last month he went on a trip to japan and got to visit the honda factory there. He said as soon as the Fireblade came off the assembly line the tech put it onto a roller, checked the bike, started it up, let it warm up and then revved it like crazy and then run it hard thru the gears. This was apprently their test on every Fireblade that comes off the assembly line. Through the translator the tech told him not to worry so much about the running in, just do the required oil changes and ride as per normal.

 

My friend now considers his first 2000km on his bike to be wasted cos he was taking it easy.

that guy's a tech, backed by the factory.. watever he was doing, the purpose was to check the bike's operation at its full operating limits. these are SOPs... the test procedure required the engine to be run at full speed... the manual states that u need to run-in the bike, so do it.. if ur manual say no need to run-in, then dont run in la.. they are the ones developing the bike, they know more than us.. they have reasons why we should do this, and why we should do dat.

[kirra55]

Running in, one of those things that always brings some controversy, due to varying opinions. Most modern bikes are tested and checjed at factory before packing and shipping for sale. The style of running in and wether or not it 'feels more powerful' after one method of another is subjective.

Just like everyone does not like every style or size of bike so the way the thing feels after runnibg in will feel 'powerful' or not.

 

There are so many variables involved, the most influential being the rider, that its pointless to compare different bikes and different running in methods. As an aside, I was involved in choosing 3 bikes, at random from a shipment of several hundred, that were then filled with oil and other necessary fluids. They were sealed and delivered to the race track.

 

After completing a 6 Hour Endurance race all 3 bikes finished, taking 1st and 2nd against other teams, they were packed and shipped back. The 3rd bike was further down the field being involved in a close inspection of the tarmac. The bikes engines were taken apart by factory mechanics for inspection.

 

The results, they were adequately run in and showed normal wear and tear for that mileage of engine. They were sold as 2nd hand.

[DGray]

I dyno run in my out of the crate K6 and no problems at all. Somemore hard run in with aftermarket exhaust system.

[skybono]

Originally posted by SaNibOy@January 17, 2007 10:16 pm

I dyno run in my out of the crate K6 and no problems at all. Somemore hard run in with aftermarket exhaust system.

Power bro...