SBF Silverwings / HOM Cafe 2012

[SW9000]

ic. I thought TitanicLexus meant SW grounding is special that not every mechanics know how to do the grounding for SW

 

Not every mech knows... is correct.

Some can open fairings but don't know where to fix the points.

Some know where to fix but can't dismantle/assemble fairings.

 

Save the trouble. Just install the simple PA2 (if still selling) at the battery is good enough.

[Fusionjaz]

erm guys, is it advice/by to place some strong magnets around the oil filter to improve the suction of small metal particles?

 

something like this:

[ATTACH=CONFIG]236282[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]236281[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]236283[/ATTACH]

 

result of the helps of magnet.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]236284[/ATTACH]

 

true?

 

Better don't place the magnet around the oil filter, if there is any present of metal filing due to wear and tear, magnet may concentrate the metal filing and block the return loop of the lug oil duct.

[TitanicLexus]

Not every mech knows... is correct.

Some can open fairings but don't know where to fix the points.

Some know where to fix but can't dismantle/assemble fairings.

 

Save the trouble. Just install the simple PA2 (if still selling) at the battery is good enough.

 

Yes.... this is what i meant, not that SW is so "special" like Uncle mentioned. Maybe i shld rephrased my word, not all mech know how to "install"

 

When i rode X8, I did experienced that the mech figure out very long to open my side fairing when i was waiting there for changing a rear signal bulb. When i asked the mech whether possible to do the grounding for my bike, he nearly fainted and telling me no need and very diff blah blah etc. Sometime later, i went to other bikeshop and noticed that, to change the rear signal light bulb only few screw instead of open the whole side fairing

 

Lesson to learn, find your own mech suit for your current bike.

Edited February 22, 2012 by TitanicLexus

[firenace]

Yes.... this is what i meant, not that SW is so "special" like Uncle mentioned. Maybe i shld rephrased my word, not all mech know how to "install"

 

When i rode X8, I did experienced that the mech figure out very long to open my side fairing when i was waiting there for changing a rear signal bulb. When i asked the mech whether possible to do the grounding for my bike, he nearly fainted and telling me no need and very diff blah blah etc. Sometime later, i went to other bikeshop and noticed that, to change the rear signal light bulb only few screw instead of open the whole side fairing

 

Lesson to learn, find your own mech suit for your current bike.

nothing sensitive la. normal ma. i even went to 1 shop b4 which the mechanic dun even know how to change SW EO. =_="

[scoobydoo]

Not every mech knows... is correct.

Some can open fairings but don't know where to fix the points.

Some know where to fix but can't dismantle/assemble fairings.

agree... i went to a reputed motorshop wanting to install the stebel magnum2 horn (few days after i bought the bike) but after "fiddling" with the head cowl for like 20+mins, the mech puts everything back and asvised me to go tai hin as he is not familiar. so i went as recommended and got it fitted with no issues

 

my SW was the 1st SW that Equipment Extreme installed the PA2 & grounding (they could only mount 4 points at that time) and it took quite a while to finish the job. a lot of time was spent locating/testing the ground points and finally settled for 4 points. imo, Elson did a good job as he tested every point with a multi-meter before installing the grounding cables, which are still on my bike after these years.

 

i'm guessing that my SW could be the 1st SW that changed tyres at Motoworld cos even Muji also quoted me a "wrong" price; but he very steady, kept his word and i paid only $145 (inclusive of labor and nitrogen gas pump) for a pair of diablo scoot tyres... swee. however, it was quite a worrying affair watching the mechs literally "trial-n-error" trying to change the rear tyre as they simply go by guessing. took out some panels here-n-there, no go, put back... almost fainted in the end i had to call a fellow SWinger for "over the phone how-to" help.

 

 

just sharing... no mech knows every bike well, even the very experienced and reputed.

 

no ill intent nor bad mouthing

Edited February 22, 2012 by scoobydoo

[scoobydoo]

Can't meet you guys this Thursday for pre ride meetup le.

go la... late is better than nothing

 

i'll be late, eta 9pm. going Future to get my rectifier (ordered today) replaced after work tomorrow.

decided to change before it fails n need to push bike, worse if during overseas touring

Edited February 22, 2012 by scoobydoo

[Wooolala]

You too late, I just sold mine...

 

ya lor.. wat a waste... =(

[MaIkEr]

go la... late is better than nothing

 

i'll be late, eta 9pm. going Future to get my rectifier (ordered today) replaced after work tomorrow.

decided to change before it fails n need to push bike, worse if during overseas touring

 

will you be keeping the old rectifier as backup?

[scoobydoo]

keep, why not? it's still working good.

 

i'm changing it as an insurance cos didn't want to take any chance of it failing when touring overseas, especially when en-route at some ooloo place in the mountains. that's why it's good to carry certain critical spares for long trips, but make sure know how to change

 

insurance... paid but hoped never to utilise

[confusehaha]

keep, why not? it's still working good.

 

i'm changing it as an insurance cos didn't want to take any chance of it failing when touring overseas, especially when en-route at some ooloo place in the mountains. that's why it's good to carry certain critical spares for long trips, but make sure know how to change

 

insurance... paid but hoped never to utilise

Haha, that right. Better play safe than sorry.

Btw scooby, how long u been using the current rectifier?

As I doubt my coil and rectifier has been replaced before. Any idea to check whether are they still running strong? As I doesn't want the bike to breakdown someday because od this.. Lol the only think I can refer is my mileage which is 59k. Lol

[whyzee]

Weekly TCSS at CB

 

7.00pm at Ah Mei cafe

 

7.30pm at CB

 

9.00pm Arrival of Chairman

 

Pre ride briefing/chit chat for Saturday's ride

[SW9000]

Haha, that right. Better play safe than sorry.

Btw scooby, how long u been using the current rectifier?

As I doubt my coil and rectifier has been replaced before. Any idea to check whether are they still running strong? As I doesn't want the bike to breakdown someday because od this.. Lol the only think I can refer is my mileage which is 59k. Lol

 

No hard and fast rule how long the Rectifier or Coil will last.

Some use it for years and others may change within 6 months.

[SW9000]

As of today, 23 Feb 2012, 1.25pm:

 

There are still 2x Twin rooms available via Agoda.com for this Saturday at Rainbow Hotel, Cameron Highland.

It is near to our Parkland Hotel (same row of building).

Priced at MYR180.

 

Any friends of yours wanna tag along have to book their own hotel.

[confusehaha]

No hard and fast rule how long the Rectifier or Coil will last.

Some use it for years and others may change within 6 months.

Erm 6months? That's playing too safe le. Lol..

[whyzee]

Erm 6months? That's playing too safe le. Lol..

 

Those who changed within 6 mths are not playing safe, but its because the coil got fried.

 

Some say, its due to EO, some say its due to constantly riding at high RPM, temperature, etc..

[terror]

Hi guys, I'm new to Silverwing, but considering it vs Tmax as my new bike.

Is Silverwing 600cc available in S'pore? Boon Siew website doesn't have.

 

Saw some of the recent servicing posts. When you bought the Silverwing, does it come with a servicing manual in English?

[scoobydoo]

Haha, that right. Better play safe than sorry.

Btw scooby, how long u been using the current rectifier?

As I doubt my coil and rectifier has been replaced before. Any idea to check whether are they still running strong? As I doesn't want the bike to breakdown someday because od this.. Lol the only think I can refer is my mileage which is 59k. Lol

just like what SW9000 said, there's not clear lifespan... a lot depends on usage and luck

 

for e.g...

* my first change of magnetic coil was only few months after purchase, got it replaced under warranty at boon siew.

* my 2nd change was a few years later (2011), replaced at AC Motor

* existing rectifier is still good after being on bike since manufacture in 2006; changing now cos wanted "insurance" when touring

 

Erm 6months? That's playing too safe le. Lol..

they change not because they want to, but bo pian

 

 

to prevent getting caught off guard, there're a few measures (or advises we got from the mechs):

* do not use too heavy an engine oil or the magnetic coil could not get splashed sufficiently for "cooling"

* use a voltmeter... engine off ~12V, started/idling +/-13V, riding >14+V (charging systems usually output >14V to charge the battery)

* if voltage readings fall below "specs", get mech to test charging system's output at terminals located behind the right side pillion foot rest unit

* if batt is ill (not critically yet), usually can hear a faint and continuous "eeeeee" sound with ignition on (engine not started); not the sound from system check or the ECU powering up

* pay attention to the starting crank, with ease or weak crank

 

ill battery could be due to:

* age of chemical & electrodes inside... SW uses maintenance free type so maintenance is outside equation

* sulfation ... common when battery (bike) is left aside which charging over prolonged periods

* not properly charged... charging system got problem

 

 

cheers

Edited February 23, 2012 by scoobydoo

[scoobydoo]

Hi guys, I'm new to Silverwing, but considering it vs Tmax as my new bike.

Is Silverwing 600cc available in S'pore? Boon Siew website doesn't have.

 

Saw some of the recent servicing posts. When you bought the Silverwing, does it come with a servicing manual in English?

boon siew brings in only SW-T400 (400cc) euro version (FJS400 in the past), ABS variation can be ordered with top up of about $1.2+k over basic model. 600cc SW (think all are JDM Japanese version) are all parallel imports by shops such as Looi's, Mah, etc.

 

why not drop by our gatherings and have a chat with SW9000 who rode the Tmas and both versions of SW (FJS & SWT). he has lots of "story" to tell... pluses and minuses

[confusehaha]

Those who changed within 6 mths are not playing safe, but its because the coil got fried.

 

Some say, its due to EO, some say its due to constantly riding at high RPM, temperature, etc..

i see, but 6mths is indeed super fast. sometime things are prone to be unpredictable oso.. hais.

[confusehaha]

just like what SW9000 said, there's not clear lifespan... a lot depends on usage and luck

 

for e.g...

* my first change of magnetic coil was only few months after purchase, got it replaced under warranty at boon siew.

* my 2nd change was a few years later (2011), replaced at AC Motor

* existing rectifier is still good after being on bike since manufacture in 2006; changing now cos wanted "insurance" when touring

 

 

they change not because they want to, but bo pian

 

 

to prevent getting caught off guard, there're a few measures (or advises we got from the mechs):

* do not use too heavy an engine oil or the magnetic coil could not get splashed sufficiently for "cooling"

* use a voltmeter... engine off ~12V, started/idling +/-13V, riding >14+V (charging systems usually output >14V to charge the battery)

* if voltage readings fall below "specs", get mech to test charging system's output at terminals located behind the right side pillion foot rest unit

* if batt is ill (not critically yet), usually can hear a faint and continuous "eeeeee" sound with ignition on (engine not started); not the sound from system check or the ECU powering up

* pay attention to the starting crank, with ease or weak crank

 

ill battery could be due to:

* age of chemical & electrodes inside... SW uses maintenance free type so maintenance is outside equation

* sulfation ... common when battery (bike) is left aside which charging over prolonged periods

* not properly charged... charging system got problem

 

 

cheers

i see, thansk scooby for the tips. i will get a voltmeter soon!

[MaIkEr]

Weekly TCSS at CB

 

7.00pm at Ah Mei cafe

 

7.30pm at CB

 

9.00pm Arrival of Chairman

 

Pre ride briefing/chit chat for Saturday's ride

 

unlikely to be able to meet it tonight. anything special needed to bring along?

[whyzee]

Updated blog:

 

1) Updated correct coordinates for Ayer Keroh Petronas on Day 1

2) Updated Total Distance going up: 542km

 

http://yzjourney.blogspot.com/2012/02/2d1n-ride-to-cameron-highlands-25-feb.html

 

All riders, please give your N.O.K contacts to your room share partners.

 

Special needs to bring? Hmm. More money to buy us ice cream? hehe. Kidding. Just remember to come with proper riding gears, and rain coat if your gears aren't waterproof. Also some basic tools including tire repair kit.

[whyzee]

Package good for April trip?

http://www.groupon.sg/deals/travel-deals/meeting-point-asia-fti-asia-services-ltd/715980108?nlp=&CID=SG_CRM_1_0_0_55&a=715827987

 

•Admission to Ang Thong National Marine Park Tour

•2 Way Pier Transfers

•SIC Speed Boat

•Breakfast (croissant and coffee)

•Buffet Lunch at Koh Woa Ta Lap

•Soft Drinks

•Snorkelling Equipment

•Life Jackets

•Travel Insurance

•English Speaking Guide

[SW9000]

Package good for April trip?

http://www.groupon.sg/deals/travel-deals/meeting-point-asia-fti-asia-services-ltd/715980108?nlp=&CID=SG_CRM_1_0_0_55&a=715827987

 

Here also got some snorkeling tours for Ang Thong or Koh Tao.

http://www.kosamui.com/snorkeling/

 

Not sure if booking at hotel (or around) can bargain for better rates?

Was looking at Koh Tao by Catamaran or Seatran...

[SW9000]

grrrrr....