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SBF Silverwings / HOM Cafe 2012

scoobydoo

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You were staring at the Pandas?

The longkang where got 3/4 of the screen?

2017

11 - 25 Nov - 15D, Taiwan - Fly and Scoot

2018

7 - 15 Apr - 9D, Phuket and Hatyai Songkran

17 Nov to 2 Dec - 16D, North East Thailand (Issan)

2019

30 Mar to 7 Apr - 9D Korea/Jeju Fly and Ride

8 - 24 Nov - 16D, Mae Hong Son

http://thehouseofdaviz.blogspot.sg/

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Brembo Newbie

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You were staring at the Pandas?

The longkang where got 3/4 of the screen?

 

wah...normally i just read the postings here but nbz David, i wish to be her guitar! :lol:

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scoobydoo Newbie

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A video production by Catrol motor oil on how viscosity and friction modifier can dampen the performance of manual transmission. Hope this video helps to clear the cloud if SWING can use car EO.

indeed a useful/informative video that reinforced the idea of friction modifiers causing clutch slippage in wet-clutch systems.

however, SW's clutch is a dry-clutch type located in the driven face assembly... if kenna oil, means some gasket/seal at drive shaft(s) (drive assembly or driven assembly) in trouble liow :p

 

some common causes of clutch slippage for SW...

* worn clutch pegs and/or bell

* dirt trapped between the "friction surfaces" impeding proper grip

* dirt trapped in the pivot pins impeding proper movements of clutch pegs

* oil that's not supposed to be there in the first place

* defective parts, etc.

 

there's a smallish write-up on common issues of "driven face assembly" at tech corner post #16

 

imo, the "contentious" issue for SW using car motor oils is the oil manufacturers' claim that bike formulated oils have extra additives that make those oil more suitable for running at higher running rpms; to prevent excessive or premature wear and tear.

fact is, there're lots of racing grade car oils in the market that can run at high rpms. but if we're going to pay for such premium car oils, then no more savings for using car oils le :pity:

 

see tech corner post #54 & #56

 

As for the so called "specially formulated for motorcycles/scooters" oils with anti-wear and extreme pressure additives, these are probably useful when we intend to visit those performance "zones".

Just how fast/long do you intend/usually ride locally, especially with all the traffic lights and jams in the city? The opportunity to rev the engine a bit is probably on the Expressways, which are also quite jammed up during peak hours. Even that, we're looking at short intervals of higher rpm, unlike touring.

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Current Ride: FJS400 Silver Wing

Trips:

23~27 Dec 2014: 5D5N KL & Ipoh

Scooby's blog http://scoobydooby-doo.blogspot.sg/

Tech Corner http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php/325894-lt-Info-gt-Silverwing-400cc-600cc-Tech-Corner

SW9000 Newbie

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looks like US is still selling the FJS models of SW... check this out

http://powersports.honda.com/2012/silver-wing.aspx

 

Hmm... still with a 19.3km/L FC.

Waiting for DCT SW or GW with a much better FC than current.

2017

11 - 25 Nov - 15D, Taiwan - Fly and Scoot

2018

7 - 15 Apr - 9D, Phuket and Hatyai Songkran

17 Nov to 2 Dec - 16D, North East Thailand (Issan)

2019

30 Mar to 7 Apr - 9D Korea/Jeju Fly and Ride

8 - 24 Nov - 16D, Mae Hong Son

http://thehouseofdaviz.blogspot.sg/

HelmetBOX1605198525 Newbie

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Hmm... still with a 19.3km/L FC.

Waiting for DCT SW or GW with a much better FC than current.

Nc nc get an nc...

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Fazli Newbie

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Hmm... still with a 19.3km/L FC.

Waiting for DCT SW or GW with a much better FC than current.

 

DCT SWing? Drive shaft?

 

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SW9000 Newbie

SW9000

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DCT SWing? Drive shaft?

 

Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using Tapatalk 2

 

I don't mind drive shaft or even the belt system of the tmax 530.

Without rollers, variators, clutch... it'll be less moving parts and less variables for maintenance.

2017

11 - 25 Nov - 15D, Taiwan - Fly and Scoot

2018

7 - 15 Apr - 9D, Phuket and Hatyai Songkran

17 Nov to 2 Dec - 16D, North East Thailand (Issan)

2019

30 Mar to 7 Apr - 9D Korea/Jeju Fly and Ride

8 - 24 Nov - 16D, Mae Hong Son

http://thehouseofdaviz.blogspot.sg/

SW9000 Newbie

SW9000

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how about a hybrid SW that can run like >50km/L? :p

 

A couple of years back I believe they were thinking... but the system will take up all the space in the underseat.

2017

11 - 25 Nov - 15D, Taiwan - Fly and Scoot

2018

7 - 15 Apr - 9D, Phuket and Hatyai Songkran

17 Nov to 2 Dec - 16D, North East Thailand (Issan)

2019

30 Mar to 7 Apr - 9D Korea/Jeju Fly and Ride

8 - 24 Nov - 16D, Mae Hong Son

http://thehouseofdaviz.blogspot.sg/

Uncle Newbie

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I don't mind drive shaft or even the belt system of the tmax 530.

Without rollers, variators, clutch... it'll be less moving parts and less variables for maintenance.

 

Tmax530 still has rollers, variators, clutch, bell... How about VFR1200X?

MaIkEr Newbie

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Tmax530 still has rollers, variators, clutch, bell... How about VFR1200X?

 

think he's referring to the burgman650. btw afc project on hold. been busy with my newborn:D

AN650L3 (current): All mod transferred.

SW-T400 (till oct 13): voltmeter, safety features disabled. coocase v36+remote. Adjustable, folding Brake levers. Givi AF318 windshield. on-off switch(pilot light, head light, hazard light), electrical seat unlatch,Dr pulley.

AN400K6 (apr07-dec11): side deflectors, J Costa variator, Dr pulley slider + HiT clutch.

YP250, RVF400/RS250, NSF125.

SW9000 Newbie

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I mean the DCT... with only the final drive shaft (Burgman650) or drive belt (Tmax530). * I don't like chain.... dirty and difficult to maintain.

 

DCT is in the engine and it connects directly to the final drive mechanism. There is no CVT; variator, rollers or SW/Tmax clutch system.

 

Therefore less noise (saved the pigeon) and less replacement due to fewer moving parts.

2017

11 - 25 Nov - 15D, Taiwan - Fly and Scoot

2018

7 - 15 Apr - 9D, Phuket and Hatyai Songkran

17 Nov to 2 Dec - 16D, North East Thailand (Issan)

2019

30 Mar to 7 Apr - 9D Korea/Jeju Fly and Ride

8 - 24 Nov - 16D, Mae Hong Son

http://thehouseofdaviz.blogspot.sg/

scoobydoo Newbie

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Coming soon ...

no need so far into the future...

 

something like this yamaha would be quite nice liow... should have lots of storage space but gotta pay car toll lor :lol:

 

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Current Ride: FJS400 Silver Wing

Trips:

23~27 Dec 2014: 5D5N KL & Ipoh

Scooby's blog http://scoobydooby-doo.blogspot.sg/

Tech Corner http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php/325894-lt-Info-gt-Silverwing-400cc-600cc-Tech-Corner

tcss Newbie

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no need so far into the future...

something like this yamaha would be quite nice liow... should have lots of storage space but gotta pay car toll lor :lol:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xR6gswlXmUI/TEPjgcUVlUI/AAAAAAAAAfQ/CIWFA9Uu7rE/s1600/maxam+yamaha-1.jpg

No loh .. since when Goldwing paying car toll ????

Fazli Newbie

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I mean the DCT... with only the final drive shaft (Burgman650) or drive belt (Tmax530). * I don't like chain.... dirty and difficult to maintain.

 

DCT is in the engine and it connects directly to the final drive mechanism. There is no CVT; variator, rollers or SW/Tmax clutch system.

 

Therefore less noise (saved the pigeon) and less replacement due to fewer moving parts.

 

DCT + shaft = Yes

DCT + chain = No

 

Chains are noisy, oily, dirty and requires frequent checks and maintenance. Alignment not straight will cause a lot of noise and premature wear... Don't want to spend too much time cleaning ar...

 

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Atlantic 200 Newbie

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Only VFR1200D and VFR1200X

 

Any diff between DCT on VFR and NC, @atlantic200 ?

 

Someone calling me??????

History: Phantom, Atlantic 200, Phantom, Vara125 FI, TranAIP 400, Super4 (version s), Fazer6 S2, Advia 200, Silverwing 400 JDM 04, Silverwing 400 Euro 08, MaxSYM 400i, VFR1200FD DCT, NC700X, BMW C650GT, Fazer6 S1, BMW R1200GS LC, Majesty S XC155, BMW R1200RT(LC)

 

Present: BMW C650GT, Majesty S XC155

Uncle Newbie

Uncle

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Someone calling me??????

 

Yes, better to hear from someone who has both :)

Atlantic 200 Newbie

Atlantic 200

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Yes, better to hear from someone who has both :)

 

ayo.... me only have VFR DCT model & NC manual model, don't have both lah.

History: Phantom, Atlantic 200, Phantom, Vara125 FI, TranAIP 400, Super4 (version s), Fazer6 S2, Advia 200, Silverwing 400 JDM 04, Silverwing 400 Euro 08, MaxSYM 400i, VFR1200FD DCT, NC700X, BMW C650GT, Fazer6 S1, BMW R1200GS LC, Majesty S XC155, BMW R1200RT(LC)

 

Present: BMW C650GT, Majesty S XC155

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