[Technical] Engine Oil - All related matters in EO

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

Standard rear sprocket for TA200 appears to be a size 41. There shouldn't be any issues pertaining to switching sprockets so long as they fit the shaft diameter. It's a custom after all.

 

Standard ratio is great for commuting in traffic, powerband optimised for 40-90kph. Rather than revving the bolts out of the engine for highway sprints, sprocket ratios are the easiest, and cheapest way to increase cruise velocity. Besides, being able to go faster at lower RPMs means less engine wear and heat.

 

Of course, the usual response is that "omg, change sprockets then no power!"

 

Well that's what tuning is, match the rider's preferences. In our case there's plenty of low end torque to play with so lower RPMs are not a bad thing... and besides, there are 6 gears. Which is plenty.

 

Just that the stock gearing is -really- short and probably designed for a Thai traffic jam. Short gearing is also a good marketing strategy as it automatically makes the bike accelerate faster (ie, appearing to be more powerful).

 

But I don't want to be forced to go 7000RPM or so on top gear just to hit highway speeds!

 

Bel-Ray Thumper according to other PKs is great oil for our single bangers and I don't doubt it!

[thechosenx]

I did some test for my phantom these 2 days and realise that if i warm up longer then 5 mins my gear is smoother compare to 5 mins and below.

 

Kalyan what rear sprocket brand are you currently using? How about chain?

 

I just wish that phantom have an RPM meter or can we fix one to it?

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

Your first experiment with motor oil viscosity vs temperature

 

RPM meter - yes, possible to fix. I intend to get a tiny little rpm meter. Maybe scavenged off a scrapped ah pek bike like CM125 or GN125.

 

I believe you just have to run a cable to the spark plug cable to get a reading, and maybe a second wire to get lighting for this meter.

 

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Sprockets - I'm using the standard 41 teeth sprocket at the rear. No idea what is my front sprocket as I haven't disassembled my left hand engine/transmission cover yet. Right now the bike is on OEM parts, ie, stock.

 

Current chain is DID O-ring, which was secondhand but no trouble with it. Little to no change in tension after 7000km. Properly lubed, as those who use self-oiling devices can attest to, chains are really durable.

 

I've done a thousand miles (1600km) over 2 weeks so time for an oil change... I had plans to 'upgrade' to fully synthetic but as the dealer couldn't make a delivery over the weekend, I'll stick with Motul 5100. Still seems like the bike is getting more smooth and responsive each passing day :3

 

(unlike everyone else I did a racing style break in)

[thechosenx]

What's the diff with O-rin and X-ring? I saw something like RK-ring or something.

 

I just took out my left cover set for the front sprocket, it was horrible. Full of dirt and oil. Took time to clean it. Will have to use de-greaser next time.

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

RK is a brand of chain - X ring is currently the most advanced chain. Can read up on wikipedia if you want, or other motorcycle websites.

 

Why have rubber seals in between the rollers? To pack in lubricant/grease. Light duty chains like that on cubs don't have O rings usually, unless you want to pay lots of moolah.

 

As such their chains need to be adjusted on a more regular basis, especially those $10 chains. Adjust every week lol.

 

A counterpoint to my above experiences is this site:

http://www.quality-cycle.com/truth_about_motorcycle_chains.htm

 

Which more or less states that with proper lubrication, all chain types today are definitely capable products. And X-rings to the site author is king.

 

However in the real world, there exist Z rings W rings XW rings, but O rings work well enough in all practicality. Plus, we're on Phantoms... only 200cc.

 

Here's some discussion on all the rings. With the exception of onion rings, maybe.

http://www.cbrxx.com/suspension-tires-wheels-brakes/8740-ring-ring-ring-chain.html

Edited June 9, 2010 by Pandora's Kitten :3

[naim]

i jux changed my EO to LiquiMoly 10w50... duno wat EO d previous owner used and said he changed just 2 weeks back, but i opted to flush anyway.. it came out black colored oil! wow! also added sum fuel additive (to clean d valves + combustion chamber)..

 

so far d new EO quite ok... vibrations d same as usual, but i feel pickup is much better.. gear changes very smooth n light...

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

Ie just make sure you don't ride on a totally rusted chain, which is only possible if you neglected it for a whole year of rain riding.

 

Oh and if there's a FCUK brand chain I want it :3 But I don't think French Connection UK deals with auto/moto parts lol

 

Changed my EO at planet the other evening for the "1000 mile" interval using 15W50 Motul 5100. I think I shall be sticking to this oil type on a long term basis. It's a bit thick at 50-weight but after a while it shears down a bit and the engine remains utterly smooth and powerful throughout.

 

When this EO is drained it comes out in a pretty good condition ie, not sludged over, etc.

 

Make sure to tighten oil filler cap with a plier to prevent oil from evaporating out.

Edited June 11, 2010 by Pandora's Kitten :3

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

CHEX 9000 -

 

Decided on this 10W40 full synthetic oil as my engine is -very- loud running 20W50. Also I wanted a synthetic for quite some time for better cold start protection, and high temperature performance.

 

Chex is really cheap and was the only API SM spec 4T on the shelf so I passed it on to Dr Chong to do the honours. I'm quite impressed with the smoothness of this German oil and the engine does become very much quieter running the lighter oil. I'll update here as I subject the new oil to the usual abuse, if it can last longer than Motul 5100 without excessive noise or half of it evaporating away suddenly like last week.

 

I went on last night's marathon outing on a reserve supply of Castrol 10W40 which -does- tend to give you a roaring powerful engine note but with horrible mechanical noises!

[thechosenx]

How do you know that your engine oil needs topping up without taking out the stick? Any feel?

 

Also any other shops selling chex 9000 other then in planet?

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

I judge mainly by the level of machinery noise as well as a predetermined timer. EO degrading can be felt by the way the gears feel as well - and I always change at the thousand-mile mark (1600km) or earlier. Wet common sump engine - the more fresh oil the merrier.

 

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Should you use full synthetic 10W40 for your Phantom?

 

At only $16, why not?

 

Chex9000 made my engine smoother, quieter and more importantly, runs at lower temperature. Synthetic is known for improved cold start performance and it's brilliant in this department. Doesn't act and sound like a steam train in the mornings.

 

15/20W50 is heavier/thicker - makes a nice roaring sound but the manifold pressure to me is alarming.

 

Well if you want a brutal loud death metal kind of engine sound then Castrol 10W40 is awesome in this department. You can literally hear everything grinding and clanking around inside LOL.

[icearmour]

Strictly for TA200 riders reviews only

 

http://www.cbxmanmotorcycles.com/Aftermarket-Motorcycle-Products/Chemicals-Lubricants/4-Stroke-Motor-Oil/Bel-Ray-96262-Thumper-20W50-4-Stroke-Racing-Motor-Oil-1-Liter-Bottle.jpg

Belray thumper 20w50(Unique motorsports/hkl) $18

Hydher - After 1000k,gear shifting was slick 4.5/5

 

 

 

http://www.castrol.com/liveassets/bp_internet/castrol/castrol_malaysia/STAGING/local_assets/images/products/mco_power14t_malaysia_375x253.jpg

Castrol Power 1 15w40 (Thailand) 100 baht / S$4.26

VidaK - Gear changing is a little stiff, engine sounds rough and top speed is much lower than before 2/5

jianping - worst EO on my bike, engine feels less powerful,noisy and rough.. need to throttle alot more to attain 90km/hr on expressway.. avoid this.. i bought at $12.. 1/5

 

 

 

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_IHSFI5DXqm4/ShF8-VdH1fI/AAAAAAAADmQ/rMjBbBzoXdw/s512/DSC00359.JPG

Chessa Chex 9000 10w50 (planet) $16

VidaK - No gear changing problems, or other problems. Although there is more vibration then quality oils, it is good value for your money 4/5

jtzx- Great fully syn Eo. which is value for money which can last at least 2.5k millege 5/5

armani123sg- gd, no problems but didnt feel any diff comparing to FUCHS brand.

 

 

FUCHS [Which series?]15w50 (planet) $10

Hydher - I hated it after 1k, gear changing was rough as hell and stuck at neutrals 2/5

armani123sg- gd, no problems but didnt feel any diff comparing to CHEX brand.

icearmour- gear changing was very hard..too much vibration as well..changed after 500km...1/5

 

http://www.cbxmanmotorcycles.com/Aftermarket-Motorcycle-Products/Chemicals-Lubricants/4-Stroke-Motor-Oil/Maxima-32901-Maxum4-Extra-100-Synthetic-4-Stroke-Motor-Oil-15W50-1-Liter-Bottle.jpg

Maxima 15w50 extra (planet) $21

VidaK - no problems with the bike, but compared to the chex, this oil lost outright since its much more expensive... 3/5

 

http://www.cbxmanmotorcycles.com/Aftermarket-Motorcycle-Products/Chemicals-Lubricants/4-Stroke-Motor-Oil/Maxima-35901B-Maxum4-Synthetic-Blend-4-Stroke-Motor-Oil-20W50-1-Liter-Bottle.jpg

Maxima 20w50 synblend (planet) $15

Hydher - Was used for long distance travelling. Was soso. 4/5

nuttybing - can feel the roughness in changing gears after around 1300km, so so only 3/5

 

http://www.cbxmanmotorcycles.com/Aftermarket-Motorcycle-Products/Chemicals-Lubricants/4-Stroke-Motor-Oil/Maxima-36901-Maxum4-Ultra-100-Synthetic-High-RPM-Formula-4-Stroke-Racing-Motor-Oil-5W50-1-Liter-Bottle.jpg

Maxima 5w50 ultra (planet) $23

VidaK - No doubt it is a good oil, but it is a little expensive 3.5/5

 

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff37/hydher/bike/IMG_0237.jpg

Mobil 20w50 $7

Pending reviews

 

http://www.motul.com.sg/product_line_up/4stroke/images/product_images/300V_4T_FACTORYLINE_15W50.jpg

Motul 300v 15w50 (planet) $28

VidaK - The smoothest is unreal. In fact top speed increased. 4.5/5

ckoonyin - very smooth; last me until 1000km before it started to get rough 4/5

icearmour- overall smoothness increased nicely:thumb:vibration still there but slightly lesser....4/5

 

http://www.motul.com.sg/product_line_up/4stroke/images/product_images/5100_4T_15W50_1L_A.jpg

Motul 5100 15w50 (semi)

nuttybing - Gear changing is really smooth, can feel the power along with the throttle, around 2000km can feel it deteriorating 4/5

ckoonyin - roughness was similar before i did EO change from Motul 300 3/5

 

http://www.motorcycle-road-and-race.co.uk/catalog/images/7100-full-synthetic-ester-motul-4l.jpg

 

Motul 7100 10w40 100% Syn Ester $22

lycan - still trying it out. feels smoother than Motul 5100.

 

 

 

NASA [Which series?]10w40 (planet) $10

Hydher - Not bad in all rounders even price. 4/5.

jtzx - pick up quite bad but over all good.. 3.5/5

armani123sg- acceleration faster, nicer sound, better than the FUCHS and CHEX but my FC decrease from usually 40km/hr on FUCHS/CHEX to 37km/hr on NASA...

 

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff37/hydher/bike/IMG_9969.jpg

Putoline SUPER DX 4 SEMI SYN $8 LAB

Rating 2.5/5. Useable for 2k and you get what you pay for.

 

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff37/hydher/bike/IMG_0242.jpg

Total 15w50 $8.90

jtzx - Bought this at carefour for only $5.90 for my DIy oiler.

 

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd246/tosco1122/HR50white.jpg

Verity 15w50 fully synthetic (planet) $26

VidaK - It is very good, but not the best. Quite expensive also... 3.5/5

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

I like Castrol 10W40. Makes your engine really loud!

 

(but only for backup and at lower speeds)

[thechosenx]

Does ah koon carry chex 9000? I might visit him soon because its very near my camp.

also any idea what time does ah koon opens shop?

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

I believe 8.30am the Koon will open; as I haven't been there I can't comment on the brands he carries.

 

Just don't let the uncles dispense "engine oil" from that strange looking oil drum in the back (PK undercover intel!). Lord knows what is in there, could be from the time of Sir Stamford Raffles from all we know.

 

Chex9000 @ 1400km, approaching the thousand mile interval;

 

Oil consumption is zero, bike starts very easy, and is starting to run very quietly. Big low end torque from 0-90kph (DIY mods) and didn't explode after riding day and night in the mega convoy.

 

Settings are slightly lean and hot, where Motul 5100 starts vaporising off to somewhere I don't know.

 

I might stick to Chex permanently.

[thechosenx]

Then I will have to go kaki bukit and buy a few bottles of Chex 9000. Lazy to go all the way there. Then just change at unqiue Motorsports and others.

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

Lol you sound like the local supplier of Chex.

 

I would DIY oil changes but I don't want to keep a tank of used oil in my room or something.

[thechosenx]

Haha I asked Unqiue about Chex 9000 they said the local supplier came to them. But they didn't take it. So I guess its only dr chong at kaki bukit.

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

Is it that rare? Not joking that it's the best EO for the Phantom I've ever used.

 

Plus, it's $16 for German full syn. Which is incredibly cheap (and Germans know their engineering stuff).

[thechosenx]

Well honestly its not a very known brand to most people right? That's what they said so they didn't take it. I would love to try chex 9000 soon, all the good results people post here including you. Can't wait till my mileage hit 13k first, then will go change.

[abang phantom]

Hi people!! few days back i went to planet to get my EO change. I decided to change to Chex 9000. It was alright on the day i change the EO. But the next day, problem start to arise:

1-engine was very noisy and increased vibration, especially at high speed (80-100 km/h).

2-decreased pick-up.

3-my ride was not smooth.

4-my engine was suddenly off when i was riding. which really piss me off!!! it might be the EO. yet to check the rectifier.

 

I used Caltex havoline 4T before i switch to Chex 9000. As the feedback was good. Seriously, it was a big mistake!

Im using caltex techron gas.. I dont think chex 9000 is compatible with caltex gas.

LESSON TO BE LEARN: Stick to one EO that is suitable for your bike.

My personal opinion.

Im riding phantom TA200.

 

 

 

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[Pandoras Kitten 3]

Interesting, I gained power from Chex in the long run, as the engine was running much quieter and cooler allowing me to tune some settings more aggressively to make use of the oil's capability, without compromise to drain intervals.

 

Infact the oil was serviceable up to 2000km without loss of lubricating performance. That's something I don't enjoy with some other oils which cost the same or more, as I would sooner notice the usual symptoms of surplus mechanical noises, stiff gears, etc.

 

Right out from the shop, Castrol oil produced a very powerful and loud engine, which got louder and louder as days went by because the crap oil couldn't take the punishment at high rpms and temperatures causing metal-metal contact. Thus, performance may not be equal to protection.

 

And we all have our individual preferences (the engines too, apparently).

[abang phantom]

i guess kaylan is right...engines have thier preference.

Anyway, i changed back to the caltex EO, and things improved.

[icearmour]

Strictly for TA200 riders reviews only

 

http://www.cbxmanmotorcycles.com/Aftermarket-Motorcycle-Products/Chemicals-Lubricants/4-Stroke-Motor-Oil/Bel-Ray-96262-Thumper-20W50-4-Stroke-Racing-Motor-Oil-1-Liter-Bottle.jpg

Belray thumper 20w50(Unique motorsports/hkl) $18

Hydher - After 1000k,gear shifting was slick 4.5/5

 

 

 

http://www.castrol.com/liveassets/bp_internet/castrol/castrol_malaysia/STAGING/local_assets/images/products/mco_power14t_malaysia_375x253.jpg

Castrol Power 1 15w40 (Thailand) 100 baht / S$4.26

VidaK - Gear changing is a little stiff, engine sounds rough and top speed is much lower than before 2/5

jianping - worst EO on my bike, engine feels less powerful,noisy and rough.. need to throttle alot more to attain 90km/hr on expressway.. avoid this.. i bought at $12.. 1/5

 

 

 

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_IHSFI5DXqm4/ShF8-VdH1fI/AAAAAAAADmQ/rMjBbBzoXdw/s512/DSC00359.JPG

Chessa Chex 9000 10w50 (planet) $16

VidaK - No gear changing problems, or other problems. Although there is more vibration then quality oils, it is good value for your money 4/5

jtzx- Great fully syn Eo. which is value for money which can last at least 2.5k millege 5/5

armani123sg- gd, no problems but didnt feel any diff comparing to FUCHS brand.

 

 

FUCHS [Which series?]15w50 (planet) $10

Hydher - I hated it after 1k, gear changing was rough as hell and stuck at neutrals 2/5

armani123sg- gd, no problems but didnt feel any diff comparing to CHEX brand.

icearmour- gear changing was very hard..too much vibration as well..changed after 500km...1/5

 

http://www.cbxmanmotorcycles.com/Aftermarket-Motorcycle-Products/Chemicals-Lubricants/4-Stroke-Motor-Oil/Maxima-32901-Maxum4-Extra-100-Synthetic-4-Stroke-Motor-Oil-15W50-1-Liter-Bottle.jpg

Maxima 15w50 extra (planet) $21

VidaK - no problems with the bike, but compared to the chex, this oil lost outright since its much more expensive... 3/5

icearmour - no problems, speed, smoothness, vibration etc all are at decent levels...but not the best in anything so 4/5

 

http://www.cbxmanmotorcycles.com/Aftermarket-Motorcycle-Products/Chemicals-Lubricants/4-Stroke-Motor-Oil/Maxima-35901B-Maxum4-Synthetic-Blend-4-Stroke-Motor-Oil-20W50-1-Liter-Bottle.jpg

Maxima 20w50 synblend (planet) $15

Hydher - Was used for long distance travelling. Was soso. 4/5

nuttybing - can feel the roughness in changing gears after around 1300km, so so only 3/5

 

http://www.cbxmanmotorcycles.com/Aftermarket-Motorcycle-Products/Chemicals-Lubricants/4-Stroke-Motor-Oil/Maxima-36901-Maxum4-Ultra-100-Synthetic-High-RPM-Formula-4-Stroke-Racing-Motor-Oil-5W50-1-Liter-Bottle.jpg

Maxima 5w50 ultra (planet) $23

VidaK - No doubt it is a good oil, but it is a little expensive 3.5/5

 

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff37/hydher/bike/IMG_0237.jpg

Mobil 20w50 $7

Pending reviews

 

http://www.motul.com.sg/product_line_up/4stroke/images/product_images/300V_4T_FACTORYLINE_15W50.jpg

Motul 300v 15w50 (planet) $28

VidaK - The smoothest is unreal. In fact top speed increased. 4.5/5

ckoonyin - very smooth; last me until 1000km before it started to get rough 4/5

icearmour- overall smoothness increased nicely:thumb:vibration still there but slightly lesser....4/5

 

http://www.motul.com.sg/product_line_up/4stroke/images/product_images/5100_4T_15W50_1L_A.jpg

Motul 5100 15w50 (semi)

nuttybing - Gear changing is really smooth, can feel the power along with the throttle, around 2000km can feel it deteriorating 4/5

ckoonyin - roughness was similar before i did EO change from Motul 300 3/5

 

http://www.motorcycle-road-and-race.co.uk/catalog/images/7100-full-synthetic-ester-motul-4l.jpg

 

Motul 7100 10w40 100% Syn Ester $22

lycan - still trying it out. feels smoother than Motul 5100.

 

 

 

NASA [Which series?]10w40 (planet) $10

Hydher - Not bad in all rounders even price. 4/5.

jtzx - pick up quite bad but over all good.. 3.5/5

armani123sg- acceleration faster, nicer sound, better than the FUCHS and CHEX but my FC decrease from usually 40km/hr on FUCHS/CHEX to 37km/hr on NASA...

 

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff37/hydher/bike/IMG_9969.jpg

Putoline SUPER DX 4 SEMI SYN $8 LAB

Rating 2.5/5. Useable for 2k and you get what you pay for.

 

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff37/hydher/bike/IMG_0242.jpg

Total 15w50 $8.90

jtzx - Bought this at carefour for only $5.90 for my DIy oiler.

 

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd246/tosco1122/HR50white.jpg

Verity 15w50 fully synthetic (planet) $26

VidaK - It is very good, but not the best. Quite expensive also... 3.5/5

 

Amsoil 10w40(25$)

icearmour- gear changing is the smoothess among all..less vibration and as good as motul 300v..top speed not so great so 4/5

[ckoonyin]

Strictly for TA200 riders reviews only

 

http://www.cbxmanmotorcycles.com/Aftermarket-Motorcycle-Products/Chemicals-Lubricants/4-Stroke-Motor-Oil/Bel-Ray-96262-Thumper-20W50-4-Stroke-Racing-Motor-Oil-1-Liter-Bottle.jpg

Belray thumper 20w50(Unique motorsports/hkl) $18

Hydher - After 1000k,gear shifting was slick 4.5/5

 

 

 

http://www.castrol.com/liveassets/bp_internet/castrol/castrol_malaysia/STAGING/local_assets/images/products/mco_power14t_malaysia_375x253.jpg

Castrol Power 1 15w40 (Thailand) 100 baht / S$4.26

VidaK - Gear changing is a little stiff, engine sounds rough and top speed is much lower than before 2/5

jianping - worst EO on my bike, engine feels less powerful,noisy and rough.. need to throttle alot more to attain 90km/hr on expressway.. avoid this.. i bought at $12.. 1/5

 

 

 

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_IHSFI5DXqm4/ShF8-VdH1fI/AAAAAAAADmQ/rMjBbBzoXdw/s512/DSC00359.JPG

Chessa Chex 9000 10w50 (planet) $16

VidaK - No gear changing problems, or other problems. Although there is more vibration then quality oils, it is good value for your money 4/5

jtzx- Great fully syn Eo. which is value for money which can last at least 2.5k millege 5/5

armani123sg- gd, no problems but didnt feel any diff comparing to FUCHS brand.

 

 

FUCHS [Which series?]15w50 (planet) $10

Hydher - I hated it after 1k, gear changing was rough as hell and stuck at neutrals 2/5

armani123sg- gd, no problems but didnt feel any diff comparing to CHEX brand.

icearmour- gear changing was very hard..too much vibration as well..changed after 500km...1/5

 

http://www.cbxmanmotorcycles.com/Aftermarket-Motorcycle-Products/Chemicals-Lubricants/4-Stroke-Motor-Oil/Maxima-32901-Maxum4-Extra-100-Synthetic-4-Stroke-Motor-Oil-15W50-1-Liter-Bottle.jpg

Maxima 15w50 extra (planet) $21

VidaK - no problems with the bike, but compared to the chex, this oil lost outright since its much more expensive... 3/5

icearmour - no problems, speed, smoothness, vibration etc all are at decent levels...but not the best in anything so 4/5

 

http://www.cbxmanmotorcycles.com/Aftermarket-Motorcycle-Products/Chemicals-Lubricants/4-Stroke-Motor-Oil/Maxima-35901B-Maxum4-Synthetic-Blend-4-Stroke-Motor-Oil-20W50-1-Liter-Bottle.jpg

Maxima 20w50 synblend (planet) $15

Hydher - Was used for long distance travelling. Was soso. 4/5

nuttybing - can feel the roughness in changing gears after around 1300km, so so only 3/5

 

http://www.cbxmanmotorcycles.com/Aftermarket-Motorcycle-Products/Chemicals-Lubricants/4-Stroke-Motor-Oil/Maxima-36901-Maxum4-Ultra-100-Synthetic-High-RPM-Formula-4-Stroke-Racing-Motor-Oil-5W50-1-Liter-Bottle.jpg

Maxima 5w50 ultra (planet) $23

VidaK - No doubt it is a good oil, but it is a little expensive 3.5/5

 

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff37/hydher/bike/IMG_0237.jpg

Mobil 20w50 $7

Pending reviews

 

http://www.motul.com.sg/product_line_up/4stroke/images/product_images/300V_4T_FACTORYLINE_15W50.jpg

Motul 300v 15w50 (planet) $28

VidaK - The smoothest is unreal. In fact top speed increased. 4.5/5

ckoonyin - very smooth; last me until 1000km before it started to get rough 4/5

ckoonyin - 2nd time using it again, damn smooth, gear changes are very positive. engine vibration is noticably muted compared to Motul 7100

icearmour- overall smoothness increased nicely:thumb:vibration still there but slightly lesser....4/5

 

http://www.motul.com.sg/product_line_up/4stroke/images/product_images/5100_4T_15W50_1L_A.jpg

Motul 5100 15w50 (semi)

nuttybing - Gear changing is really smooth, can feel the power along with the throttle, around 2000km can feel it deteriorating 4/5

ckoonyin - roughness was similar before i did EO change from Motul 300 3/5

 

http://www.motorcycle-road-and-race.co.uk/catalog/images/7100-full-synthetic-ester-motul-4l.jpg

 

Motul 7100 10w40 100% Syn Ester $22

lycan - still trying it out. feels smoother than Motul 5100.

ckoonyin - not much diff between Motul 5100

 

 

NASA [Which series?]10w40 (planet) $10

Hydher - Not bad in all rounders even price. 4/5.

jtzx - pick up quite bad but over all good.. 3.5/5

armani123sg- acceleration faster, nicer sound, better than the FUCHS and CHEX but my FC decrease from usually 40km/hr on FUCHS/CHEX to 37km/hr on NASA...

 

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff37/hydher/bike/IMG_9969.jpg

Putoline SUPER DX 4 SEMI SYN $8 LAB

Rating 2.5/5. Useable for 2k and you get what you pay for.

 

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff37/hydher/bike/IMG_0242.jpg

Total 15w50 $8.90

jtzx - Bought this at carefour for only $5.90 for my DIy oiler.

 

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd246/tosco1122/HR50white.jpg

Verity 15w50 fully synthetic (planet) $26

VidaK - It is very good, but not the best. Quite expensive also... 3.5/5

 

Amsoil 10w40(25$)

icearmour- gear changing is the smoothess among all..less vibration and as good as motul 300v..top speed not so great so 4/5