Super4 Ver S or Ducati monster 400 Comments Pls..

[necrosis]

Hi I own a Duke M4, Bought it last july from Dexing for $3600 w/o. Its a FQ6*** plate.I think its a reasonable price... Wat do you guys think? I bought it because of the brand factor and also the Stylin. Wins hand down on design.I believe that the S4 is a more dependable and proven bike great for commuting. Then why buy Monster400?? Well i just wanna stylo milo lor so buy the monster. The biggest problem is that i cant bear to put a box on my monster cos it will utterly destroy the look that the monster is trying to project, having a box kills it! Want stlye sacrifice the inconvenice...

 

Performance wise i not very good at comparison between the both, I not into the cheong full throttle kind of riding but i think it is good enough for normal riding lah, just dun expect sportsbike performance out of it, it will deliver just fine. Minerva parts support is good i would say, so far no problem with the bike except for the hydraulic clutch, very hard ah!Maybe its faulty?? But alot told me its like that for hydraulic clutch. The bike in my opinion is very bare and simple easy to strip kinda bike. Single Brembo up front compare to double disc on the S4. Max output i think S4 is more powerful.

 

Spare parts prices should be abit more than honda but not far apart lah. Only part i bought from minerva is the single seat cowling. I consider as accessories to be correct, $270+ incl Gst, come sprayed and colour coded!

 

My Buddy is selling off his red Monster400, its a FP plate. Single seat cover, new paint job, Exhaust wrap with stainless steel sheet giving the glossy look, drilled holes on the end cans producing a very deep growl like that. Haha sound shiok man! PM me if you want more details, he wanna change his ride to a Yamaha Majesty.

[necrosis]

Ooops! Sorry guys didnt see the date of the first post was months ago. Ignore my last.

[marvypower]

Originally posted by necrosis@Feb 9 2004, 02:22 AM

Ooops! Sorry guys didnt see the date of the first post was months ago. Ignore my last.

anyway how much is ur buddy gonna let go his Monster?

[necrosis]

Last i heard was 4k. Mine is 3.6k FQ his is older FP at 4. Both bike totally identical new paint with Ducati Performance decal; emblazon onto the tank. You interested bargain lor, i am sure he will lower the price.

[shoei]

Monster

[Yeehaa]

Originally posted by shoei@Feb 9 2004, 05:48 PM

Monster

Heya

I own a monster 4 myself and honestly all the talk about high maintenance is not true. my monster hasnt even been into the workshop for any major stuff. i would say low and high end powers cant be compared to super 4. you must understand that the monster is running a V and ONLY TWO cylinders whereas super 4 is running 4 cylinders. so when pple say monster losing to super 4 is obvious! imagine u got TWO legs i tell you to go race horse with FOUR legs, you sure lose. you can confidently go into a corner together with a super 4 and surely beat him outta it because the V engine is designed to deliver at mid range. only at mid range will u feel the optimum power and the change of sounds and the valves opening because the valves are not spring rebounded like the other bikes.

 

the only hassle is that after every 5000km or so u have to change the fuel filter which cost only about S$15. so don't sweat on it man.

 

both are good bikes but now comes the time when you have to choose whether you want to be different?

 

Regards

Garrick

[Speedpass]

Originally posted by Yeehaa@Feb 13 2004, 06:36 PM

Heya

I own a monster 4 myself and honestly all the talk about high maintenance is not true. my monster hasnt even been into the workshop for any major stuff. i would say low and high end powers cant be compared to super 4. you must understand that the monster is running a V and ONLY TWO cylinders whereas super 4 is running 4 cylinders. so when pple say monster losing to super 4 is obvious! imagine u got TWO legs i tell you to go race horse with FOUR legs, you sure lose. you can confidently go into a corner together with a super 4 and surely beat him outta it because the V engine is designed to deliver at mid range. only at mid range will u feel the optimum power and the change of sounds and the valves opening because the valves are not spring rebounded like the other bikes.

 

the only hassle is that after every 5000km or so u have to change the fuel filter which cost only about S$15. so don't sweat on it man.

 

both are good bikes but now comes the time when you have to choose whether you want to be different?

 

Regards

Garrick

uh ... regarding the thing abt v-twin engine , i believe tat a v-twin engines makes the same power as an in-line four of the same cc , but at a faster rate , eg v-twin can reach 30ft/lb at 7500rpm while super 4 will need to rev till 11000rpm to achieve tosame power .

[shoei]

Originally posted by Yeehaa@Feb 13 2004, 06:36 PM

Heya

I own a monster 4 myself and honestly all the talk about high maintenance is not true. my monster hasnt even been into the workshop for any major stuff. i would say low and high end powers cant be compared to super 4. you must understand that the monster is running a V and ONLY TWO cylinders whereas super 4 is running 4 cylinders. so when pple say monster losing to super 4 is obvious! imagine u got TWO legs i tell you to go race horse with FOUR legs, you sure lose. you can confidently go into a corner together with a super 4 and surely beat him outta it because the V engine is designed to deliver at mid range. only at mid range will u feel the optimum power and the change of sounds and the valves opening because the valves are not spring rebounded like the other bikes.

 

the only hassle is that after every 5000km or so u have to change the fuel filter which cost only about S$15. so don't sweat on it man.

 

both are good bikes but now comes the time when you have to choose whether you want to be different?

 

Regards

Garrick

when u ride a Monster,its not about speed.Its about style.

someone will buy a monster only if he or she loves the italian design.If someone is looking for power,performance he should go to honda,yamaha or suzuki

[comics00]

if u have a sound mind ($$$) u will not get the monster but super4. why? simple, the price of both bike diff too much! but if u r into style the super4 is too common. btw i think it was mention that super4 is blacklisted by some insurance co.

 

if i am to chose...mmm... will go for super4. cheaper to buy n easier to sell

[necrosis]

Buying a ducati is more of an acquired taste. I do agree that the S4 is better in terms of performance, parts accessibilty, good resale and plenty of after market bits to play on etc. Sums it all up; isnt it the perfect choice! If you are buying a new monster from Minerva then be prepared to lose alot of money cos the dep is very high after a few years. I own a Monster myself and IMHO: i buy wat my heart desire cos owning a Ducati is unforgettable though its only the entry class Duke, it turns more head and spurn more hearts whenever the Italian marque is mentioned.

 

Well just my opinion hope you guys dun flame me. Peace! Not comparing which is better just saying that Buy what you like most important You must be happy after buying it. Cheers guys!

[shoei]

Originally posted by necrosis@Feb 15 2004, 07:45 PM

Buying a ducati is more of an acquired taste. I do agree that the S4 is better in terms of performance, parts accessibilty, good resale and plenty of after market bits to play on etc. Sums it all up; isnt it the perfect choice! If you are buying a new monster from Minerva then be prepared to lose alot of money cos the dep is very high after a few years. I own a Monster myself and IMHO: i buy wat my heart desire cos owning a Ducati is unforgettable though its only the entry class Duke, it turns more head and spurn more hearts whenever the Italian marque is mentioned.

 

Well just my opinion hope you guys dun flame me. Peace! Not comparing which is better just saying that Buy what you like most important You must be happy after buying it. Cheers guys!

[COLOR=red]most important You must be happy after buying it

[Speedpass]

seriously , in my opinion , buying Ducatiis all abt style . imaging riding a ducati monster 400 n u put a box . it spoils the image liao . same thing to the cagiva planet 125 . its a beauty without box .

[marvypower]

Originally posted by shoei@Feb 15 2004, 10:09 PM

[COLOR=red]most important You must be happy after buying it

true.. main thing is to make sure u buy liao wunt regret..

even if u put box on ur monster, u may still feel happy abt it...

like those who placed rear box on their SP...

[Guest TheSquid]

Originally posted by cyben76@Nov 17 2003, 02:29 AM

FQ plate Super 4 Version S (lowest)

FP plate Ducati Monster 400 (maybe lower havent discuss with owner)

Which would be the best buy?¿?

 

Monster- 2 piston 2 spark plug 2 carb 5 gear

Version S - Inline 4, 4 piston 4 plug 4 carb 6 gear

Monster is truly babe magnet, asked 3-4 gerls abt how it looked all loved it

Version S common, but common means easier to get parts...

Hmmmmm.....

hmmmm..... my ver S only got 5 gears. or did i count wrongly?

[Alvin.Y]

monster more power

super 4 I feel is like a 2A RXZ: spare parts all this easier to get

 

and a thing to note that minerva is the offical distributor, then spare parts shld be quite ex ah..

[shoei]

Originally posted by marvypower@Feb 16 2004, 12:06 PM

true.. main thing is to make sure u buy liao wunt regret..

even if u put box on ur monster, u may still feel happy abt it...

like those who placed rear box on their SP...

yeah i had side boxes on my ex monster

[Alvin]

Ducati Monster!!!

 

I love this bike! Yet to get my hands on one though....

 

was just wondering...is the 400 cc version an OLD one?

 

i can't seem to find a 400 cc bike on the minerva website...smallest cc is 620?

 

also, what's the estimated cost of getting one? 1st hand (if it's still available)?

 

else, can i get 2nd hand refurbised 400 monster from minerva? maybe it's like BMW cars and bikes....2nd hands are available from the distributor....

 

 

Thanks guys!

[shoei]

Originally posted by Alvin@Feb 17 2004, 10:49 PM

Ducati Monster!!!

 

I love this bike! Yet to get my hands on one though....

 

was just wondering...is the 400 cc version an OLD one?

 

i can't seem to find a 400 cc bike on the minerva website...smallest cc is 620?

 

also, what's the estimated cost of getting one? 1st hand (if it's still available)?

 

else, can i get 2nd hand refurbised 400 monster from minerva? maybe it's like BMW cars and bikes....2nd hands are available from the distributor....

 

 

Thanks guys!

the ducati(not minerva) web do not have the 400cc coz it was made for Asia and Japan countries.Who needs a 400 when u stay in Big copuntries like US/Europe

[Guest nE0]

The 400cc version is for Japanese markets only, their tax structure got one 400cc class too.

 

I'd love to own a Ducati too, when I get my 2A.

[Sev]

Originally posted by CookieSoL@Feb 17 2004, 12:24 PM

hmmmm..... my ver S only got 5 gears. or did i count wrongly?

every S4 have 5th gear...

 

nobody can jump from 4th gear to 6th gear right?:lol:

[Alvin]

hmm...

 

is it still possible to get a brand NEW monster?

 

might be getting one!

 

who does better deals? minerva?

 

 

thanks everyone!

[Guest TheSquid]

Originally posted by Sev@Feb 18 2004, 01:32 PM

every S4 have 5th gear...

 

nobody can jump from 4th gear to 6th gear right?:lol:

neh... i can hit from 2 to 4th. just a matter of shifting method used.

but the problem is, i only managed to kick up to 5th gear on my ver S.

no 6th gear leh.

 

1 - N - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 thats all.

[VerR]

Originally posted by CookieSoL@Feb 19 2004, 10:12 AM

neh... i can hit from 2 to 4th. just a matter of shifting method used.

but the problem is, i only managed to kick up to 5th gear on my ver S.

no 6th gear leh.

 

1 - N - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 thats all.

hi..i heard fr my ex-m4 frenz, he said m4 no power,if 4 style ok lah..n FQ s4 n FP m4 almost e same price if i'm nt wrong..if 4 me i prefer a s4..

[Sev]

abit...

 

 

Wah!!! how come your Ver S up to 5th gear only!?

 

What type of ver S is your bike?

 

Mine is the oldest Ver S with Nissin brake caliper and the tail light cover is black color with no front fork pre-adjust nut..... but still got 6th gear ler...

 

what is your top speed? 5th gear can go 180kmh? normally at 5th gear we able to go abt 170kmh before change to 6th gear....

 

funny ler.... :confused:

[marvypower]

Originally posted by Al-demon@Feb 17 2004, 12:30 PM

monster more power

super 4 I feel is like a 2A RXZ: spare parts all this easier to get

 

and a thing to note that minerva is the offical distributor, then spare parts shld be quite ex ah..

nah can't really compare liddat bro...

u'll never know wat u can do and achieve on a Super 4

 

hmmm... but RXZ,

seen ppl doing Wheelie and Endo on it before...

not a bad bike either..

 

mabbe u can compare it to a honda929 vs a Ducati999

more reasonable...