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what's the penalty for sg/spr to drive a msian car in sg ah? always heard ppl say and internet write say cannot, but never talked about the penalty b4:cheeky:

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  newcomer said:
what's the penalty for sg/spr to drive a msian car in sg ah? always heard ppl say and internet write say cannot, but never talked about the penalty b4:cheeky:

Then the only correct authority that can answer this is ICA or Traffic Police. Why not you email them and report the findings here. Will be useful for others to know.

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If I'm not mistaken, it somewhat similar to driving without insurance coverage.

 

 

But, what if, for example, your name is listed as an insured driver in the insurance policy of the malaysian car ahhh?:confused:

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  dumbnut said:
If I'm not mistaken, it somewhat similar to driving without insurance coverage.

 

 

But, what if, for example, your name is listed as an insured driver in the insurance policy of the malaysian car ahhh?:confused:

Well it did say this in LTA Website

 

"Singapore citizens, permanent residents (regardless of their place of residence), student pass holders, long term social visit pass holder and residents of Singapore are NOT allowed to use or keep any foreign-registered vehicles in Singapore."

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Plus, it is clearly signposted upon entry into our land checkpoints that Singaporeans and PRs aren't allowed to drive a Malaysian registered vehicle into Singapore.

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Yea but nobody knows the penalty. I suppose this is one of the grey areas. From my experience I am a SPR and I have driven a msian car (reg to my name) to SG once before via 2nd link and they never stopped me. I have a fren who also did this on a few occassion, although she was completely unaware of the rules. She is an expat from France though, holding an SG license.

 

I'm guessing the computers at the customs don't have a system to flag these situations.

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  newcomer said:
Yea but nobody knows the penalty. I suppose this is one of the grey areas. From my experience I am a SPR and I have driven a msian car (reg to my name) to SG once before via 2nd link and they never stopped me. I have a fren who also did this on a few occassion, although she was completely unaware of the rules. She is an expat from France though, holding an SG license.

 

I'm guessing the computers at the customs don't have a system to flag these situations.

 

Well I guess it all boils down on luck. Better don't do it now that you know. The Law here is very strict. I'm sure it will be a court case.

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I guess so. I've tried asking a couple of my friends who are police regulars, they themselves can't answer. I do know for a matter of fact that my sis can't drive her car in (Car is registered to her name). She gets her husband to drive it in.

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The New Paper

Thu, Sep 04, 2008

 

Why pay extra for my Malaysian car?

By Desmond Ng

 

FOR the past three months, he has been thinking about retiring in Malaysia.

But there is one big road hump - the issue of car-ownership.

 

Retiree Mr Tan Sin Wee, 60, wants to buy a Malaysian-registered car.

 

Not only because it's cheaper there, he explained, but also to reduce the risk of falling prey to criminals.

 

The problem is Mr Tan will have to pay the car's additional registration fee (ARF) - which will come up to tens of thousands - if he wants to drive the car to visit his son in Singapore.

 

Mr Tan, who wrote to us last month, said this fee is on top of the $20 permit fee imposed on foreign-registered cars entering here from 2 am to 5 pm on weekdays.

 

No fees are levied on weekends and public holidays.

 

Questioned Mr Tan: 'Why is there a need to pay the ARF? I think it's an overkill. Isn't it enough that I will be paying the $20 permit fee? Why the double-standards considering that foreigners don't have to pay the ARF?'

 

Mr Tan, who lives in a terrace house in the Aljunied area, thinks the ARF portion should be waived, especially for those who want to retire up north yet keep their ties with their relatives in Singapore.

 

He wants to retire in Malaysia because of the lower cost of living, the less hectic pace and proximity to Singapore.

 

Mr Tan is married with a 24-year-old son.

 

The former oil exploration engineer is thinking of selling his $1 million house here to retire in Johor Baru, that is, if he can work around the ARF issue.

 

What of the option of having two cars, one Malaysian-registered and the other Singapore-registered?

 

'If I am able to afford two cars,' he said, 'I won't have to think about retiring elsewhere.'

 

LTA said Singaporeans are only allowed to drive foreign-registered vehicles in Singapore if the ARF of the vehicle's open market value (OMV) is paid.

 

Said an LTA spokesman: 'This is to ensure that our car ownership measures, put in place to manage congestion within Singapore, will not be circumvented.'

 

But Singaporeans working and residing in Malaysia who need to make home visits to Singapore occasionally are allowed to drive their Malaysia-registered cars here on a case-by-case basis.

 

Transport economist Mr Michael Li of the Nanyang Business School said that if the policy is removed, it may create a loophole.

 

'This could create a situation where Singaporeans may just register a car there to take advantage of the cost savings, and then pay the nominal $20 to drive here. It could be a cheaper option,' he said.

 

Mr Li said this loophole would benefit those who purchase luxury cars with higher COE and OMV, where the savings would be in the tens of thousands.

 

For example, a Mercedes C200 would set you back about $151,000 (plus COE) here compared to about $100,000 in Malaysia.

 

Said Mr Li: 'Cars in Malaysia don't expire in 10 years like our COE system. So there's potential for abuse if this policy is removed.'

 

He said that in Mr Tan's case, he can park his Malaysian-registered car near the Causeway, and take a taxi around Singapore.

 

Said Mr Li: 'If a Government policy affects many people and creates hardship, then we've to review it. But in this case, it doesn't. And the small number of people who may be affected by this policy do have choices.'

 

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  redbeacon said:
Plus, it is clearly signposted upon entry into our land checkpoints that Singaporeans and PRs aren't allowed to drive a Malaysian registered vehicle into Singapore.

 

If I am a Malaysian, and Singapore PR, I am not allowed to drive a Malaysian registered vehicle into Singapore ?

 

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  Demon said:
If I am a Malaysian, and Singapore PR, I am not allowed to drive a Malaysian registered vehicle into Singapore ?

 

:)

 

i think cannot. my fren also PR here & he say his malaysian plate car cannot cross custom...

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I've heard stories of Singaporeans based in Malaysia (with a valid work permit) being able to drive a Malaysian registered car into SG. But the protocol is that they are to inform LTA ahead thru fax beforehand.

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But isn't there supposed to be a penalty outlined to deter this kind of scenario?

 

What if a SG/SPR was driving a foreign car within SG?

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the penalty is S$350 for SPR to drive a M'sia registered car, regardless of the car owner. Not sure what's the condition of applying to drive, just pay certain $$$?

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