-=TLRiders=-

[yctradingsg]

hey guys just a query i've asked b4 kish but i still confused...wat is the actual fuel consumption of the TL per litre? and wat are the problem areas of this v-twin beauty? (other than the heat problems )

[Biker82]

Originally posted by shoei@Jun 9 2004, 02:36 AM

i might be interested to get one but it is illegal to do that and it takes up iur storage space in the back seat.

 

and it sets u back by 500 bucks for a decent looking one.

like tat a bit sian leh..is really a waste if it takes up too much space..but where can i get 1??

[shoei]

Originally posted by Biker82@Jun 9 2004, 02:37 AM

Tats it man!!SG got a not ah?or must get from overseas??

have to order online or get motorworld to order for us.

u willing to pay 500 bucks for it>

[shoei]

Originally posted by Aldebaran@Jun 9 2004, 02:42 AM

hey guys just a query i've asked b4 kish but i still confused...wat is the actual fuel consumption of the TL per litre? and wat are the problem areas of this v-twin beauty? (other than the heat problems )

fuel consumption varies.it is definately higher than the inlines.

however if one choses the Vs twins, fuel should not be the problem

 

for TLR i have ridden it for abt 1 year and i find no problem with it.if there is one,it would be the heat problem when it gets struck in a traffic jam.a mauel fan swtich will resolve it.

 

[WildCard]

Guys,

I discovered the solutions to my fuel problems.

A remap...

heheheheh

 

Last Sat, went to Bikelab and spilled out $50 for a Teka remap.

Thammo showed the amt of carbon coming out of my pipes, not to mention earlier my front spark plug died on me.

Anywayz, changed both and it feels better.

Yesterday was D-Day and it worked. Normally I would hit actual reserve (the permanent fuel light) at ard 180-190km. Yesterday, it only started blinking at 180+. If thing go rite, I can hit 200+ at actual reserve. Today I wanna see how many litres of petrol my bike consumed. I'm thinking of riding exactly 220 km then top up full tank and see how many litres I've filled up.

Previous calculation indicate my bike was hogging at 12-13km / litre.

Now, it should be a lot better. Let's see how....

 

One more thing. Shoei, after remap, does your present mileage show up immediately or after some time?

[shoei]

Originally posted by WildCard@Jun 9 2004, 12:00 PM

Guys,

I discovered the solutions to my fuel problems.

A remap...

heheheheh

 

Last Sat, went to Bikelab and spilled out $50 for a Teka remap.

Thammo showed the amt of carbon coming out of my pipes, not to mention earlier my front spark plug died on me.

Anywayz, changed both and it feels better.

Yesterday was D-Day and it worked. Normally I would hit actual reserve (the permanent fuel light) at ard 180-190km. Yesterday, it only started blinking at 180+. If thing go rite, I can hit 200+ at actual reserve. Today I wanna see how many litres of petrol my bike consumed. I'm thinking of riding exactly 220 km then top up full tank and see how many litres I've filled up.

Previous calculation indicate my bike was hogging at 12-13km / litre.

Now, it should be a lot better. Let's see how....

 

One more thing. Shoei, after remap, does your present mileage show up immediately or after some time?

the mapping did help me to increase my fuel consumption immediately

but its still high due to my exhast.

 

the real thing that help me in my fuel is the fuel cleaner

[kish_garfield]

ok people need some help here. i have asked redevil76 for advise but no reply yet. maybe have not seen my msg. i know the riders here not super long on TLR but anyways jus help me if can thanks.

 

mapping

1) Wat mapping are there other then tekka.

2) how much it cost ?

3) where is good?

 

Tunning

1) Wat tunning are there other then valve tunning n valve claerance.

2) how much it cost ?

3) where is good?

 

These types of terminology very impt so who knows wat can state?

[shoei]

u can do a TEKA mapping at bike lab for 50 bucks

[WildCard]

Originally posted by kish_garfield@Jun 9 2004, 09:14 PM

ok people need some help here. i have asked redevil76 for advise but no reply yet. maybe have not seen my msg. i know the riders here not super long on TLR but anyways jus help me if can thanks.

 

mapping

1) Wat mapping are there other then tekka.

2) how much it cost ?

3) where is good?

 

Tunning

1) Wat tunning are there other then valve tunning n valve claerance.

2) how much it cost ?

3) where is good?

 

These types of terminology very impt so who knows wat can state?

try checking TLPlanet on this or asking them.

They're very helpful, especially Steve the owner.

 

There's one more thing. Synching the TBs, which I understand are the throttle bodies. I gotta read more on this. But TBs go out of sync after some usage and mileage. It does result is significant fuel consumption.

 

Guys, new thing I discovered. Anyone had this problem:

Loud squeaking noises from the rear shock? These 2 days, I've been plagued by them. Worse is when I pillion my fiance along. Then it becomes from squeaking to that of an old asthmatic grandpa wheezing and groaning away.

 

Anywayz, read some advice from TLPlanet and tried using WD40 directed all over the joints, the piston rod (inside the red spring) and throughout the rotary damper.

I was gonna try and strip the whole shock out and regrease everything. But

1. I dun have any white lithium grease handy

2. I dun have the proper tools

 

Those damn screws are damn tight. Anywayz, will update you guys on this....

[shoei]

Originally posted by WildCard@Jun 10 2004, 11:37 AM

try checking TLPlanet on this or asking them.

They're very helpful, especially Steve the owner.

 

There's one more thing. Synching the TBs, which I understand are the throttle bodies. I gotta read more on this. But TBs go out of sync after some usage and mileage. It does result is significant fuel consumption.

 

Guys, new thing I discovered. Anyone had this problem:

Loud squeaking noises from the rear shock? These 2 days, I've been plagued by them. Worse is when I pillion my fiance along. Then it becomes from squeaking to that of an old asthmatic grandpa wheezing and groaning away.

 

Anywayz, read some advice from TLPlanet and tried using WD40 directed all over the joints, the piston rod (inside the red spring) and throughout the rotary damper.

I was gonna try and strip the whole shock out and regrease everything. But

1. I dun have any white lithium grease handy

2. I dun have the proper tools

 

Those damn screws are damn tight. Anywayz, will update you guys on this....

instead of greasing them part by part, go to a hard ware shop and get a white litium grease SPRAY. it does do magics as it can lubricate all the joints of the shock.thats wad i always do wheneva i wash my bike

[shoei]

Originally posted by shoei@Jun 10 2004, 01:03 AM

u can do a TEKA mapping at bike lab for 50 bucks

meng tong does a yoshi box mapping for 80 bucks

[WildCard]

Originally posted by shoei@Jun 10 2004, 02:39 PM

instead of greasing them part by part, go to a hard ware shop and get a white litium grease SPRAY. it does do magics as it can lubricate all the joints of the shock.thats wad i always do wheneva i wash my bike

Was gonna do tat.

Then realized I dun have any handy rite now and too damn cheapo to go buy a can.

Now I just remembered that a fren has a new can of lithium grease at MotorX. Gonna go down and hijack it later...

kekekekkeke

[WildCard]

Guys, for the benefit of new and old TLRiders, let's give this project a little try.

As a cheapo-sk8er, I'm always hunting ard for the cheapest yet reasonably good parts for replacements, mods or servicings. So I was thinking, why not start a list and everyone contribute their buying/spending experiences and share it with the rest? Especially shoei. Must add his Yoshis in.

So I'll start the ball rolling...

 

Format:

Item

Brand - Price - Shop

Please indicate if stock, generic (local at LAB) or aftermarket

 

Spark Plugs

NGK CR9EK(Normal) - $9.50 - Leong Seng (DIY)

Denso U24ETR(Hotter) - $9.50 - Leong Seng (DIY)

Denso U27ETR(Normal) - $9.50 - Unity

 

Brake Pads (per set)

Daytona - $18.00 - HKL (installation)

SBS - $18.00 - HKL (installation)

Fizz Power - $18.00 - Planet Motors (installation)

 

Wheel Bearings (per pair)

Generic - $36.00 - Leong Seng

Suzuki stock (covered to prevent dirt) - $50.00 - Kallang Cycle

 

Chain / Sprockets

VAZ (Italy) sprocket set (17 front / 40 rear) - $25+$35 - LAB

DID O-ring (not gold) - $110 - LAB (with installation)

 

Engine Oil

Fuchs Silkolene Comp4T (semi) - $8 per bottle - Planet Motors

 

Servicings (labor + parts charges)

Brake / clutch fluid bleeding and replacement - $8.00 - Planet Motors

Teka EFI Mapping (mapping only) - $50.00 - BikeLab

Clutch plate replacements (9 plates) - $160.00 - Planet Motors

Clutch plate replacements (9 plates) - ($18x9plates)+labor - Kallang Cycle

 

 

Add on. Dun have to add in my top headers.

[shoei]

Guys, for the benefit of new and old TLRiders, let's give this project a little try.

As a cheapo-sk8er, I'm always hunting ard for the cheapest yet reasonably good parts for replacements, mods or servicings. So I was thinking, why not start a list and everyone contribute their buying/spending experiences and share it with the rest? Especially shoei. Must add his Yoshis in.

So I'll start the ball rolling...

 

Format:

Item

Brand - Price - Shop

Please indicate if stock, generic (local at LAB) or aftermarket

 

Spark Plugs

NGK CR9EK(Normal) - $9.50 - Leong Seng (DIY)

Denso U24ETR(Hotter) - $9.50 - Leong Seng (DIY)

Denso U27ETR(Normal) - $9.50 - Unity

Denso iridium - $19 - motorworld/unity

 

Brake Pads (per set)

Daytona - $18.00 - HKL (installation)

SBS - $18.00 - HKL (installation)

Fizz Power - $18.00 - Planet Motors (installation)

EBC HH- $55 - Unity

 

Wheel Bearings (per pair)

Generic - $36.00 - Leong Seng

Suzuki stock (covered to prevent dirt) - $50.00 - Kallang Cycle

Ohlins shock - $1560 - sporting motors

 

Chain / Sprockets

VAZ (Italy) sprocket set (17 front / 40 rear) - $25+$35 - LAB

DID O-ring (not gold) - $110 - LAB (with installation)

DID x-ring - $180 - motor world

 

Engine Oil

Fuchs Silkolene Comp4T (semi) - $8 per bottle - Planet Motors

Motul competition - $20 -Bt batok Bike shop(duno the name)

Esso Gold - $15 - Dexing

oil filter(stock)- $16 - dexing

 

Servicings (labor + parts charges)

Brake / clutch fluid bleeding and replacement - $8.00 - Planet Motors

Teka EFI Mapping (mapping only) - $50.00 - BikeLab

Clutch plate replacements (9 plates) - $160.00 - Planet Motors

Clutch plate replacements (9 plates) - ($18x9plates)+labor - Kallang Cycle

yoshi box mapping- $80 - Loois motor by Meng tong

Scottoiler- $140 - motorworld

 

 

Tyres (per set)

BT020- $300 - dexing

BT010- $320 - dexing

 

 

Others

Yoshi SS FS- $1500+ - motorworld

Ohlins Damper - $500- sporting motors

[josean]

from what i know, v twins need good plugs to peform.

anyway u guys using 2 plugs only so might as well use the denso iridium

 

just my 2cents worth of comments.

 

i think this is a good effort. pls keep it coming.

others can learn frm it too

 

cheers

[WildCard]

Originally posted by josean@Jun 11 2004, 01:09 AM

from what i know, v twins need good plugs to peform.

anyway u guys using 2 plugs only so might as well use the denso iridium

 

just my 2cents worth of comments.

 

i think this is a good effort. pls keep it coming.

others can learn frm it too

 

cheers

I've been using Iridium. Just downgraded to Denso "hotter" plugs coz kena fouled plugs due to running to rich.

The difference is there. Can feel it. But it depends on what you want.

 

I wanted iridiums too. Too bad. Lack of cash last week.

[WildCard]

Spark Plugs

NGK CR9EK(Normal) - $9.50 - Leong Seng (DIY)

Denso U24ETR(Hotter) - $9.50 - Leong Seng (DIY)

Denso U27ETR(Normal) - $9.50 - Unity

Denso iridium - $19 - motorworld/unity

 

Brake Pads (per set)

Daytona - $18.00 - HKL (installation)

SBS - $18.00 - HKL (installation)

Fizz Power - $18.00 - Planet Motors (installation)

EBC HH- $55 - Unity

Izumi - $16 - LAB (installation)

 

Wheel Bearings (per pair)

Generic - $36.00 - Leong Seng

Suzuki stock (covered to prevent dirt) - $50.00 - Kallang Cycle

Ohlins shock - $1560 - sporting motors

 

Chain / Sprockets

VAZ (Italy) sprocket set (17 front / 40 rear) - $25+$35 - LAB

DID O-ring (not gold) - $110 - LAB (with installation)

DID x-ring - $180 - motor world

 

Engine Oil

Fuchs Silkolene Comp4T (semi) - $8 per bottle - Planet Motors

Motul competition - $20 -Bt batok Bike shop(duno the name)

Esso Gold - $15 - Dexing

oil filter(stock)- $16 - dexing

 

Servicings (labor + parts charges)

Brake / clutch fluid bleeding and replacement - $8.00 - Planet Motors

Teka EFI Mapping (mapping only) - $50.00 - BikeLab

Clutch plate replacements (9 plates) - $160.00 - Planet Motors

Clutch plate replacements (9 plates) - ($18x9plates)+labor - Kallang Cycle

yoshi box mapping- $80 - Loois motor by Meng tong

Scottoiler- $140 - motorworld

 

 

Tyres (per set)

BT020- $300 - dexing

BT010- $320 - dexing

BT090 (Front) + BT010 (Rear) - $270 - LAB (with installation)

 

 

Others

Yoshi SS FS- $1500+ - motorworld

Ohlins Damper - $500- sporting motors

 

New updates on tyres and brake pads. Turns out there are Ferodo brake pads for TLRs but most shops dun carry. LAB has but presently all stock gone.

[zx4]

Originally posted by Biker82@Jun 9 2004, 03:00 AM

like tat a bit sian leh..is really a waste if it takes up too much space..but where can i get 1??

Abit late BUT welcome !!!!

:cheer:

[zx4]

hey shoei, gimme a ring if u wanna do the airbox..

[zx4]

Originally posted by WildCard@Jun 10 2004, 11:37 AM

There's one more thing. Synching the TBs, which I understand are the throttle bodies. I gotta read more on this. But TBs go out of sync after some usage and mileage. It does result is significant fuel consumption.

 

TBs or throttle body sync is to sync the 2 throttle bodies, just like u tune a carb.It regulates the amount of air into the engine. Thru time(usage n mileage), the sync of the TB will "run", thus resulting in irregular idling rpm.

[shoei]

zx4 when are u free? my bike is in the bike shop now.Hope to get it back soon

 

for the iridium plugs, i am using the denso ones.i heard the NGK iridiums ones are good too. howebver u need a good mapping for such powerful plugs.

[zx4]

Originally posted by shoei@Jun 14 2004, 02:00 PM

zx4 when are u free? my bike is in the bike shop now.Hope to get it back soon

 

for the iridium plugs, i am using the denso ones.i heard the NGK iridiums ones are good too. howebver u need a good mapping for such powerful plugs.

wanna go bikelab to get my mapping done...think i have done enough for my bike performance wise other than a pair of pipes....anyway, how do i know if the mapping is good anot??what do u normally tell the mech. when doing tekka mappping?

[shoei]

Originally posted by zx4@Jun 14 2004, 02:08 PM

wanna go bikelab to get my mapping done...think i have done enough for my bike performance wise other than a pair of pipes....anyway, how do i know if the mapping is good anot??what do u normally tell the mech. when doing tekka mappping?

personally i pefer bikelab mapping due to the TEKKa mapping

highly recommanded. tell them what u want.be it fuel economy or power or responese or top end

[zx4]

Originally posted by shoei@Jun 14 2004, 02:18 PM

personally i pefer bikelab mapping due to the TEKKa mapping

highly recommanded. tell them what u want.be it fuel economy or power or responese or top end

wanna meet someday for the tekka mapping @ bikelab??

[shoei]

Originally posted by zx4@Jun 14 2004, 02:29 PM

wanna meet someday for the tekka mapping @ bikelab??

i have done mine liao.i would do it again next month when i get my BMC/K&N air filter.

 

i dont mind going with u.