Investment Talk

[Throttle]

Just outta curiosity any full time traders around. Can u actually make a steady income out of it?

 

i'm not one.

 

yes you can make a living but you need a decent base, decent skills and decent luck to do so.

[SparkerS1]

Yo bro, you can multi-quote many posts and reply in one single post, it will look neat & tidy instead of several single posts.

 

There is this ("+) icon next to the reply with quote,, just click on several posts you wanna reply and once you selected the posts, click reply to thread and you're done.

[joekia]

Sea of blood.... Took oppurtunity to buy cheaply Cland and DBS...

[jason1202]

seem like the start of a down trend.... very risky now to plunge in...

[silversurfer2012]

Market now too bearish, good for shorting and intra-day trading.

[silversurfer2012]

Just outta curiosity any full time traders around. Can u actually make a steady income out of it?

 

I was a full-time trader for almost a year and made a decent income from it.

[Throttle]

Sea of blood.... Took oppurtunity to buy cheaply Cland and DBS...

 

look at Keppel Land bro. dont put so much in Capland although, I do think at $2.70 it's a good buy.

 

this morning , dumped another $50k into the markets.

 

Just keep on telling yourself that you are Long term investor, long term investor, long term investor....hahah thats what i do....hahaha

[silversurfer2012]

Sea of blood.... Took oppurtunity to buy cheaply Cland and DBS...

 

Tell u honestly, Cland is a favourite stock among punters to short when ever spore govt announce any property cooling measures. Long-term downtrend for this stock is still intact, but valuation wise, its indeed undervalued. But valuation doesn't matter if markets refuse to buy it.

[Throttle]

Tell u honestly, Cland is a favourite stock among punters to short when ever spore govt announce any property cooling measures. Long-term downtrend for this stock is still intact, but valuation wise, its indeed undervalued. But valuation doesn't matter if markets refuse to buy it.

 

ultimately market will fall back on valuation....

trends and technicals are for short term traders.

 

long term investor , long term investor, long term investor....

[silversurfer2012]

ultimately market will fall back on valuation....

trends and technicals are for short term traders.

 

long term investor , long term investor, long term investor....

 

If you are talking about very developed foreign market such as US, Japan, Hongkong, then yes i would agree. But not in Spore 'kelong' market if you get what i mean.

 

Capitaland was one stock that during it's 2010 peak at around $4.20, lots of houses were calling for BUY, but the problem was spore govt intervention in the property market that was hampering the property counters. Jan 2011 was a confirmation for capitaland long term downtrend and those that are still holding their short position on capitaland are laughing their way to the banks. For me i never miss the chance of shorting capitaland whenever they get a strong rebound or govt cooling measures in the property market. Allgreen shareholders were lucky to get a buy out.

 

Long term wise, its still under its 200 day moving average with no sign of rebound. Short term wise, it was hammered below its 30 day moving average which suggest further downside risk.

 

The important part now is the right timing to go into capitaland in the first place, its still in a firm downtrend channel and only by breaking this channel with volume will end i dare to long this counter.

 

Lots of people don't like investors like me that short the market, but this is a willing-buyer willing-seller market and i don't see a problem with making money in a bull and bear market.

[Throttle]

thats why I'm suitable only to be long term investor.

[iknowuwanthislah]

what do u guys tink of starhub?

[silversurfer2012]

what do u guys tink of starhub?

 

Starhub is a fine example of a longterm uptrending stock. A defensive counter with good dividend yields. I would add it to my portfoilio if i could get it at the $2.60-$2.70 level.

 

At current price of $2.80, it represents a yield of around 7.2% PA, far better than any fixed deposits.

[iknowuwanthislah]

my exact same sentiments.

 

but for it to

and whethr they can maintain the 7%, remains to be seen

[silversurfer2012]

my exact same sentiments.

 

but for it to

and whethr they can maintain the 7%, remains to be seen

 

 

$2.70 or less need them to lose another TV license like the EPL the other time. lol...

 

For the yield, normally management of companies would not want to increase the dividend payout if it's unsustainable for the near future.In a case of a good year, a special dividend would be declared instead of increasing the dividend portion.

 

Starhub has been gradually increasing their dividend payout since 2005 and even during the Lehman brothers crisis. This might be a testament to their resilience?

 

But don't take my word for it, as with all stocks, risk will always be there.

Edited August 5, 2011 by silversurfer2012

[joekia]

look at Keppel Land bro. dont put so much in Capland although, I do think at $2.70 it's a good buy.

 

this morning , dumped another $50k into the markets.

 

Just keep on telling yourself that you are Long term investor, long term investor, long term investor....hahah thats what i do....hahaha

 

Noted.. I've abit of Kland too.. 5 lots nia.. haha.. I'm with u on long term investment... ( Since those of my short term investments gone wrong turned long term )'

[joekia]

look at Keppel Land bro. dont put so much in Capland although, I do think at $2.70 it's a good buy.

 

this morning , dumped another $50k into the markets.

 

Just keep on telling yourself that you are Long term investor, long term investor, long term investor....hahah thats what i do....hahaha

 

Noted.. I've abit of Kland too.. 5 lots nia.. haha.. I'm with u on long term investment... ( Since those of my short term investments gone wrong turned long term )'

[joekia]

Tell u honestly, Cland is a favourite stock among punters to short when ever spore govt announce any property cooling measures. Long-term downtrend for this stock is still intact, but valuation wise, its indeed undervalued. But valuation doesn't matter if markets refuse to buy it.

 

Yeah.. I know.. Short also must cover to take profit right? hehe.. End day, when i wanna punt, i look towards stocks with higher beta, the likes of indo agri, ezra, yzj, cosco, noble..

[joekia]

If you are talking about very developed foreign market such as US, Japan, Hongkong, then yes i would agree. But not in Spore 'kelong' market if you get what i mean.

 

Capitaland was one stock that during it's 2010 peak at around $4.20, lots of houses were calling for BUY, but the problem was spore govt intervention in the property market that was hampering the property counters. Jan 2011 was a confirmation for capitaland long term downtrend and those that are still holding their short position on capitaland are laughing their way to the banks. For me i never miss the chance of shorting capitaland whenever they get a strong rebound or govt cooling measures in the property market. Allgreen shareholders were lucky to get a buy out.

 

Long term wise, its still under its 200 day moving average with no sign of rebound. Short term wise, it was hammered below its 30 day moving average which suggest further downside risk.

 

The important part now is the right timing to go into capitaland in the first place, its still in a firm downtrend channel and only by breaking this channel with volume will end i dare to long this counter.

 

Lots of people don't like investors like me that short the market, but this is a willing-buyer willing-seller market and i don't see a problem with making money in a bull and bear market.

 

Bulls make money, bears make money, only pigs get slaughtered haha

[joekia]

Starhub is a fine example of a longterm uptrending stock. A defensive counter with good dividend yields. I would add it to my portfoilio if i could get it at the $2.60-$2.70 level.

 

At current price of $2.80, it represents a yield of around 7.2% PA, far better than any fixed deposits.

 

 

 

I beg to differ on starhub, I look at their bal sheets, I just can't fathom how they actually continue paying dividends. Rather try M1. Can take a look at Kep T&T too if the illiquid stock tickles your fancy..

 

Defensive and high yield, I opt for QAF, Dairy farms or perhaps cerebos, with the last one's price alittle on the high side already.

[silversurfer2012]

I beg to differ on starhub, I look at their bal sheets, I just can't fathom how they actually continue paying dividends. Rather try M1. Can take a look at Kep T&T too if the illiquid stock tickles your fancy..

 

Defensive and high yield, I opt for QAF, Dairy farms or perhaps cerebos, with the last one's price alittle on the high side already.

 

May i ask which part of the balance sheet are u referring to?

 

Last i seen was 0.8x net debt / EBITDA.

[joekia]

May i ask which part of the balance sheet are u referring to?

 

Last i seen was 0.8x net debt / EBITDA.

 

I'm sorry. I meant books not balance sheets. Open for discussions my simplistic views might be wrong. Perhaps you can help me understand how feasible is it for a company whose cost of dividends is higher than net profit, continue to maintain their dividends...

[endlessloop]

By 2 Aug, I have already liquidated all my stocks across various markets.

Upcoming turmoils in the markets.

One man's poison, is another man's fruit.

Hence, it is always better to be able to play both sides of the markets.

[kmax]

let us know when you start to pick up again

[iknowuwanthislah]

Noted.. I've abit of Kland too.. 5 lots nia.. haha.. I'm with u on long term investment... ( Since those of my short term investments gone wrong turned long term )'

 

whats the FV of Kepland?

it has already lower than its 52L