Engine Oil - General Discussion

[-HANZ-]

Originally posted by ooniq@Feb 5 2004, 05:58 PM

anybody noe which shop got fuch silkolene engine oil?

Bedok Sticker Shop (forgotten blk number) also have...

Need to DIY..

 

 

[ooniq]

thanx for the response.. will try them during my next oil change... been seeing good reviews abt them

[Philip]

hi, any1 tried Repsol racing 4t b4? its honda spec.

[Guest revolio103]

Originally posted by chivas@Feb 6 2004, 02:23 AM

can try pleasure motorcycle ....

saw that they carry that brand of oil when i go change tires last week....

sorry, may i know where is this pleasure motorcycle???

[seven7sin]

at kallang...do a search at shoplist and u know..

jus beside lab workshop

[chee_teck]

Originally posted by seven7sin@Feb 6 2004, 09:43 AM

they even have those big barrels of engine oil..under fuchs too...cheap and good...1 litre ard $5

Semi or mineral?

sekali its recycled oil u go there change tht fuch oil b4?

[seven7sin]

Originally posted by chee_teck@Feb 7 2004, 02:02 PM

Semi or mineral?

sekali its recycled oil u go there change tht fuch oil b4?

yup change b4...a few time to be infact...since cheap so i go change ard every 2k ...hehee...anyway today jus change to TOTAL 4T.....

[chee_teck]

Originally posted by seven7sin@Feb 7 2004, 02:05 PM

yup change b4...a few time to be infact...since cheap so i go change ard every 2k ...hehee...anyway today jus change to TOTAL 4T.....

I have been using the Carrefoiur Semi 4T all these while change bout 3k km everytime...

 

This FUCH u mention is semi or mineral ar? rating?

[seven7sin]

i suppose to be ard 15 w or 20w...i forget liao..but who cares.been up genting and cherating wif u guys...also never feel any difference...cos everytime go up trips..i will change one time of the cheaper version of engine oil first..then come back..change to a better one..

fuchs MO leh...maybe can get $5.50..u wan to buy...under chaicka MO of fuchs

[iliew]

I read several threads earlier on that talked about amount of engine oil as well as loud "tok" sounds from the clutch when shifting gears. I learnt something recently so am sharing it here. Of course I may be wrong and information is worth what you pay for it! Hah!

 

From BMW Website:

 

Oil is the life blood of your engine. As such, you want to be sure that it has enough of this vital lubricant. However, you must use care when adding oil not to overfill the motor. Too much oil can cause serious long term reliability problems.nfortunately, many conscientious riders routinely overfill their motors. In fact, most complaints of oil consumption are traced to overfilled motors.

 

More from BMW Motorcycle Website

 

Another website about oil levels saying similar thing but less detailed

 

Too much oil also causes more difficult shifting on the S4 wet clutch and louder clutch changing sounds. Of course, better clutch-throttle matching BEFORE shifting gears makes for much smoother changes, but too much oil still makes it is more difficult to shift.

 

People tend to overfill their oil - prob especially us who are kiasu - more is better! Wrong! Workshops change your oil quickly and may not go through the proper procedure of checking your oil level after they top it up. You all know that the bike must be centered or on the centre-stand to check of course... but I just found out that to check engine oil the bike must FIRST be warmed up to operating temperature then shut off and left for 15 min (some say less time, like several minutes, but basically you gotta wait and which mechanic will wait??). The reason is because first the oil has to be warmed up and second the oil has to settle after the engine is off.

 

So check your engine oil properly! And don't top up too much! Shops when changing your oil will put in fresh oil but prob won't warm up the bike again, shut it down, wait and recheck! Shops which are changing oil on your S4s and putting 4 bottles are overfilling. Eventually you may get excessive oil consumption and long term problems.

 

[four]

Originally posted by iliew@Feb 8 2004, 05:41 PM

I read several threads earlier on that talked about amount of engine oil as well as loud "tok" sounds from the clutch when shifting gears. I learnt something recently so am sharing it here. Of course I may be wrong and information is worth what you pay for it! Hah!

 

 

 

Too much oil also causes more difficult shifting on the S4 wet clutch and louder clutch changing sounds. Of course, better clutch-throttle matching BEFORE shifting gears makes for much smoother changes, but too much oil still makes it is more difficult to shift.

 

People tend to overfill their oil - prob especially us who are kiasu - more is better! Wrong! Workshops change your oil quickly and may not go through the proper procedure of checking your oil level after they top it up. You all know that the bike must be centered or on the centre-stand to check of course... but I just found out that to check engine oil the bike must FIRST be warmed up to operating temperature then shut off and left for 15 min (some say less time, like several minutes, but basically you gotta wait and which mechanic will wait??). The reason is because first the oil has to be warmed up and second the oil has to settle after the engine is off.

 

So check your engine oil properly! And don't top up too much! Shops when changing your oil will put in fresh oil but prob won't warm up the bike again, shut it down, wait and recheck! Shops which are changing oil on your S4s and putting 4 bottles are overfilling. Eventually you may get excessive oil consumption and long term problems.

 

eh.. 4 bottles seems abit too much right?? think normal is 3 bottles... (without oil filter change)

[merz65]

our S4 got a sticker at e engine side stating how much oil to pour mah.. jus follow it should be safe..

[iliew]

Originally posted by merz65@Feb 9 2004, 06:22 PM

our S4 got a sticker at e engine side stating how much oil to pour mah.. jus follow it should be safe..

True when changing oil and putting in new oil. But when you check oil levels between oil changes you would want to check in the way that gives you the most accurate reading. Otherwise, we may think that the level is too low or think that our bike is burning oil then add too much to the tank. For example, checking a cold bike just after starting the engine will make you think the engine oil is too low when in fact it isn't.

[hachi]

I always followed the amount stated on the sticker itself and make guessing to minimum.

[seven7sin]

can explain briefly why mus warm up then wait 15 mins to drain oil??

hmmz

if for me...i would let my bike wait till next early morning, push to one side of the carpark then drain the oil....almost letting all the oil settle down...hmmz...so in this case..there wun be any overtop of engine oil eventually..

[hachi]

Warm oil flow faster and easier so u can actually let more oil flow out.To wait 15 mins is to let the easier flowing oil flow to the oil sump before u drain out.

[merz65]

think to wait 15mins is let e oil cool down bit so it wouldn't burn ur container or hand...

[iliew]

Waiting a few minutes after turning off the engine allows the oil to flow back down into the oil sump. However, it's important to do this when CHECKING oil level not when CHANGING the oil. Checking the oil level involves the sight window in the oil sump so to get an accurate reading the oil must be in the sump!

 

On the other hand, when changing the oil it just has to be warm so that it will flow. You are going to leave it for a few minutes to flow out anyway so you don't have to wait before opening the drain plug (unless the engine is really hot). Letting the engine warm up for several minutes from a cold start is sufficient for the oil to flow easily and it won't burn your hand.

[HondaSuperFourHSF]

Hi all just want to know that without changing oil filter is 3 litres of engine oil

but funny lei. i change liao the reading at the side. does not reach the top marking. Why is it so??

should it be this case or should it reach the top marking?

Please urgent to know.....Thanks

[Guest aiya4]

Suppose to be in between

[HondaSuperFourHSF]

confirm hor?

cos last time i always take a look at it it always above the top marking and cover the whole window when straighten.

[Vtec1605198534]

when the bike is held upright, the oil level should b inbetween the high n low marking. If u say the oil cover the whole window, tat means u overtop liao.... n overtopping is no gd for ur engine.... was told the best time to check the engine oil level is to leave the bike overnight..... check it the next morning....

[kumori]

Originally posted by HondaSuperFour(HSF)@Feb 25 2004, 01:02 PM

confirm hor?

cos last time i always take a look at it it always above the top marking and cover the whole window when straighten.

I DIY mine with 3 litres (with changing oil filter) and it reaches exactly the top mark (must let engine cool down, wait 5 min or more then check).

[Vtec1605198534]

when the engine is hot, u should let it cool down first b4 draining the oil... this is to allow the oil to flow back to the oil sump... Anyway for vtec, when u change oil filter, the correct amount should b 3.2L....

[hachi]

For Vtec I thought u need 3.2l with filter change?