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haiz.. lan lan suck thumb lor..

already buy what else can i do..

haha..

 

 

what about arrow or yoshi ??

how come no one seems to be interested

in these 2 brands ?

any reviews abt it ?

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Originally posted by @Oct 16 2006, 01:24 AM

worse to worst , we all stay in 1 room loh..budget oso..the more we get together the merrier we'll be ma,...

we can have oggy party... hehehe :bouncefire: :bouncefire:

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Originally posted by BLacK.dOt@Oct 16 2006, 02:22 AM

haiz.. lan lan suck thumb lor..

already buy what else can i do..

haha..

 

 

what about arrow or yoshi ??

how come no one seems to be interested

in these 2 brands ?

any reviews abt it ?

I using arrow now. Erm, okay lah. JUst my feedback after changing endcan. Original bike is already running lean. So after changing to aftermarket, bike running super lean. Tried using teka to increase fuel, but still running lean. So suck thumb go buy PC3. But after buying PC3, I encounter another problem. The stock ECU have a accelerator pump utilities. This feature will pump in more fuel for a spilt second to give the extra boost. To activate this feature, the RPM must be at 8k to 12k rpm and throttle position at 60% onward. Just give the thorttle a sudden twitch at the abv mentioned range and this feature will kick in. So when ever I activate the accelerator pump, the bike will have a sudden lose of power and then within split second, power come back again. There is several explanation on why this sudden lose of power will occur, these are the 2 I know,

 

1) Since the bike had already been tune to the correct AFR (13~13.2), the sudden addtional of fuel will make it rich thus causing it to have a sudden drop in power.

 

2) The FI sensor thought that the FI is stuck open, thus shut down all FI and when it think it okay, the FI activate back again.

 

So due to our bike have 2 rows of FI, the PC3 can only control the lower primary FI. Thus leaving the upper 4 FI controlled by the stock ECU. The accelerator pump will still be available at the top 4 injector. These a the several ways I can think of to eliminate this problem,

 

1) Lean the bike out so that when the function kick in, the AFR become normal (Dynoject solution). But it is plain stupid as if you never activate this function, your bike will run very lean at 8k to 12k rpm which is not good for engine; or

 

2) buy one more pc3 to control the 4 top injector which is super costly (recommended by GIXXER.com racer); or

 

3) Unplug the top 4 injector, just by using the bottom primary injector; or

 

4) Using Teka to reduce the stock ECU mapping to very lean so that the top 4 injector will be running lean while the bottom PC3 controlled FI will be running on the correct AFR ( I just thought maybe this will help, no guarantee).

 

For the (4) solution, it might also the main cause of my problem. Cause I mentioned I did TEKA first and I have add 100% more fuel to my stock ECU yet still running lean. So maybe my top 4 injector might be pumping more fuel especially after the accelerator pump had kick in. I will try this solution (4) and see how. So it your choice whether you want to buy trouble or not. The power delivery is indeed smoother but you have to tahan that split second lose in power. It is quite dangerous, if you are a track goer. By the way, when I change to arrow with teka tuning, I gain only 1HP which is negligable. After add PC3 I gain 7HP.

 

I am now waiting for Ah xiong of unity to come back from his Dynojet training at USA to find a solution there.

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Originally posted by MC28@Oct 14 2006, 02:35 PM

Not going i guess...Got ur no..Would be going tml or mon night... :cheer:

Hey... I'm gng in Monday night.

 

Can I tag along?

 

keke...

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Originally posted by milan@Oct 15 2006, 11:31 PM

its quite impossible that they mix up the petrol. they use different dye for different grades of fuel. if to compare gasoline in singapore, shell Vpower is the best in the local market. the RON reading for Vpower is > 98 close to 99. there's also insignificant level of MTBE and other oxygenates. so u can relatively say that Vpower is pure and good stuff.

 

is quite true that there isnt much difference between 95R and 98R, actually there are more areas to consider the petrol besides the RON level. for example the

 

1) Density. usually for a higher RON grade of petrol will have a higher density,that explain why higher ron petrol can burn longer and register higher milage. save more $

 

2) RVP is the vapour pressure ,lower RVP will burn faster in the combustion chamber cos the vapour pressure is lighter. usually mogas will have an RVP of about 7.5 to 8.5 psi. too low RVP also no good,cos it burn too fast. lower milage.

 

3)Oxygenates. nowadays instead of adding lead. most of the mogas are blended with MTBE(methyl tri butyl ether) to boost the RON, for example the mogas may just register a ron reading of 91. instead of selling it at the price of a 88R mogas, the seller may blend it with MTBE to boost up to 92R. making a profit with it.

 

most of the petrol selling in singapore are from the refineries so they r relatively 'clean' i cant say much about mogas from overseas. basically if the vehicle run well with 95R then why should you use a more expensive grade. its true that 92r will register a lower milage because usually they have lower density,IBP,RVP thats why burnt off faster. so if can use 95 then use 95.

tat time , i remember u mentioned about SPC petrol, they re not that good,isit?

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Originally posted by milan@Oct 16 2006, 01:06 AM

leaving sin on sat? coming back monday?

how about goin on fri nite? So tat go there early to enjoy and anyway, it cooler riding in the nite.:smile:

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Originally posted by ProjectD@Oct 16 2006, 07:16 AM

how about goin on fri nite? So tat go there early to enjoy and anyway, it cooler riding in the nite.:smile:

Fri set off and back on Sunday? I dun mind...

 

How abt lets confirm who's going then we decide?....

 

Guys pls keep me inform, if rooms are not book in advance, then we go there oso no rooms, then have to stay by the road side liao...

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Originally posted by @Oct 16 2006, 09:43 AM

Fri set off and back on Sunday? I dun mind...

 

How abt lets confirm who's going then we decide?....

guys all the hotels r fully booked except first world. and i think by the time we confirmed the number of people going there wont even be any rooms left. unless we go hard core.. dun book room. go there then see how? i dun mind doing it the hard core way. if not then we better start planning a alternative plan to spend the weekend.:mad:

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Originally posted by ProjectD@Oct 16 2006, 07:16 AM

how about goin on fri nite? So tat go there early to enjoy and anyway, it cooler riding in the nite.:smile:

going on friday night is no problem for me. but most of the check in time for the hotels there are @ 1400hr . they do not entertain request for early check in.

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Hi peeps, just want to ask. My 00 R1 has a new engine.. Thats that constitude to the high fuel consumption rate. Currentl its 150km then empty tank le? Thats wat my bike shop told me?

 

Is this true?:sweat:

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Originally posted by audywoo@Oct 16 2006, 11:07 AM

Hi peeps, just want to ask. My 00 R1 has a new engine.. Thats that constitude to the high fuel consumption rate. Currentl its 150km then empty tank le? Thats wat my bike shop told me?

 

Is this true?:sweat:

woah 150km then empty....tats rather chor man. anyway, if its a new engine, i tink the FC shld be better than worse. correct me if im wrong.

 

i tink ur bike shop is smoking u.... :sweat:

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Originally posted by audywoo@Oct 16 2006, 11:07 AM

Hi peeps, just want to ask. My 00 R1 has a new engine.. Thats that constitude to the high fuel consumption rate. Currentl its 150km then empty tank le? Thats wat my bike shop told me?

 

Is this true?:sweat:

hmm....i think very unlikely leh..Any mod done for ya bike???

 

As that time reply u , mine abt 300km..so urs is abt half of mine..thats alot to me..

 

One last thing is , where u service ya bike eh?

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Originally posted by milan@Oct 16 2006, 10:08 AM

guys all the hotels r fully booked except first world. and i think by the time we confirmed the number of people going there wont even be any rooms left. unless we go hard core.. dun book room. go there then see how? i dun mind doing it the hard core way. if not then we better start planning a alternative plan to spend the weekend.:mad:

how much roughly we have to spend?

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Originally posted by audywoo@Oct 16 2006, 11:07 AM

Hi peeps, just want to ask. My 00 R1 has a new engine.. Thats that constitude to the high fuel consumption rate. Currentl its 150km then empty tank le? Thats wat my bike shop told me?

 

Is this true?:sweat:

tat's not possible since the mech says tat the engine is brand new one.

 

Unless he buffs u loh....:sweat:

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Originally posted by milan@Oct 16 2006, 10:11 AM

bro frankly i still prefer the sound of V4 on the Vmax fitted with super trap slip ons..than a in-line 4 engine.

Bro... you ride Vmax too? :smile:

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wa liew so quiet in here can hear needle drop :cheeky:

 

Just change my engine oil 900km liao :cheer:

 

1st part of run in finish liao now until 1600km i can rev til 11k rpm :faint:

 

Still got long way to be max revv and to be able to keep up with u guys when we go kulai :thumb:

 

 

So when the next outting? :hungry:

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Originally posted by ET@Oct 16 2006, 06:51 AM

kinwei, is it that bad....then how....~~~whahahaha!

Dun buy first lor. I'm now the guinea pig waiting for the solution lor. :sian: But the power delivery is indeed smoother. I dunno wheather it the initial TEKA I did that is the root cause or not. Now waiting for Ah xiong to come back from US training.

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Originally posted by ET@Oct 13 2006, 09:05 PM

Mark, is our BMC filter here already?

Should be here by early this week bah. I check the USPS tracking system and it had been shipped out from USA in the 12th liao. Once I got it, I inform you and Lancer Evo.

 

By the way, you interested in doing TRE mod? I now doing one for our bike. The initial design one that I used for my K5 cannot be used on our bike. For the inital design one, you have to kick up the side stand in order to start bike. And during neutral, the RPM will shoot up ard 500rpm when you release clutch. And there is no neutral light. I have identify the problem and tonight I will try out the new modify TRE and see how it works. But I am also abit tempted to buy the ready made TRE also by the EBAY seller for the BMC filter. Just plug and play. But it selling at S$50+ including shipping where I know if I DIY, it will only cost so much less.

 

By the way, have anyone who is owned the K6 encounter this problem during riding. When you are crusing at 6th gear and at around 80 to 100kph, you close the throttle and you will feel the bike have very strong engine brake. And given that speed and gear, you only need to throttle abit thus closing the throttle abit also means almost fully close throttle. And I find that this problem only comes when you maintain that gear/speed for a while then it comes. During the initial part, i dun encounter that problem at all. So question, is it just my bike or same goes to all?

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mc28 & kinwei, can give me some advice pls.

 

my bike has inconsistent idling and I went to find mengtong. He say the throttle sensor not accurate & he did teka mapping & tune it back.

after he did tat, when I release the throttle, there is a engine brake pull. previously the pull was not there & the inconsistent idling still remains.

 

this morning, I went find mengtong again. he adjust the idling higher and he tell me my bike's shin(spelling. dunno wat's tat) veri tight & need to do a valve clearance. but the thing is, my bike's mileage is only 25k+. is it necessary to do a valve clearance?

right now, the idling is alrite. oni prob is the throttle engine brake pull.

and also to add, my bike is equipped wif kinwei's diy tre.

 

pls advise...

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