BMW Motorcycles

[jimmy631]

i saw it before at car audio shop. think Chuan Sing have as I seen it before. the use it for their ICE system to protect with fuses.

 

Anyone know weird's contact? I still trying to contact him about the sale of his RT1100

[twisticles]

http://www.nippynormans.com/images/CEN_FOR_HOME_PAGE.jpg

 

The Centech AP1 is another bike specific fuse panel for multiple connections. Can mail order from the UK at http://www.nippynormans.com

 

Or maybe this:

 

http://www.touratech.com/shops/001/images/artikel/BIGIMAGE/01-044-0450-0_I_01.JPG

 

TPS 15 by Touratech. I know M-Technik can get hold of Touratech stuff, you might try there.

 

Or possibly autobacs has something similar?

 

Can fit an aux fuse panel to any bike of course. Depends if you need a relay to make the panel live when you start the engine, or whether you want it permanently hot.

 

I wrote a blog post for my CAN-bus F800GS, but the information applies to F650GS (twin) and the 1200GS and any other CAN-bus bike. (In case you are not familiar, CAN-bus is a sort of network distributed wiring system with no fuse panel, good for about 5 amp of accessories.)

 

See here: http://f800gsrider.blogspot.com/2009/02/electrical-connections.html

[twisticles]

Hi all,

 

Currently, my R1100R is using original BMW battery. It has not been changed since I bought this bike 2+ years ago. I'm thinking of buying a new one and charge myself using a trickle charger.

 

I read from a US magazine sometimes back that the 1st charge is the most important. If you do not charge it fully the first time, the battery will not be able to have a full charge from then on, no matter how hard you try.

 

Do local shops take care to make sure the battery is full before they install on the bike? In the past when I sent my bike to service and change the battery, the shop will call to say bike ready for collection a few hours later.

 

I am a noob so here are some dumb questions (maybe).

 

1) When the shop open a new battery and pour in the battery acid, is there any charge?

2) If no, can you fully charge a new battery in a few hours? Or do shops force charge the battery to save time?

3) When you buy a new hand phone, you need like 8~10 hrs to have a full charge right? So I assume you should leave a bike battery over-night to ensure a full charge using a trickle charger?

 

Well, since I have a trickle charger I am thinking of buying a battery from the dealer and installing myself.

Are all of you using original BMW battery? What other brands are available in Singapore?

 

 

1) Yeah they should supply it fully charged. But ask them! It should also be charged SLOWLY at >10% of the battery capacity. (i.e. if the amp hour rating is 12 amps, charge at 1.2amp or less). 6-8 hours can be enough but can charge overnight.

2) A used battery you can quick charge, but have to be careful as charging heats the plates and if they get too hot they can warp = knackered battery. Always better to trickle charge

3) Yes, overnight if you are trickle charging, but there is no comparison to cell phone and bike batteries, totally different technology.

 

If I were replacing a battery now, forget the wet cell lead/acid battery and go for a 'maintenance free' sealed or 'gel' type battery. No messing around with electrolyte fluid, no top offs, less chance of hydrogen explosions etc.

 

You have to fill a wet cell battery (and even the 'sealed' batteries when new) and this takes time for the fluid to settle and gas to dissipate. I wouldn't bother.

 

If you plan to trickle charge yourself, always easiest to wire in a loom to the terminals, so you can plug it in without taking the bike apart. Products like the Bike Tender or Optimate come with such cables.

[fz0123]

thankz blackie21 for the info. hmmm u suggest i go pml...??

[Phang]

If you plan to trickle charge yourself, always easiest to wire in a loom to the terminals, so you can plug it in without taking the bike apart. Products like the Bike Tender or Optimate come with such cables.

 

Very handy for hard to reach batteries. I fitted this to my no-Bayerische bikes and made the battery charging chores as easy as charging a handphone.

 

twisticles, I read your long story of importing your F800GS to Singapore, that's quite an achievement you made

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v198/Phang/DSCN4481.jpg

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v198/Phang/DSCN4457.jpg

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v198/Phang/DSCN5965.jpg

[currypuff]

hi ther bros, i'm new to the unique world of the ultimate bike. Jus got myself one n was thinking of places to learn or do rewiring of whole bike cos mine looks bad(disintegrated rubber casings)... Any fellow bros who hv done rewiring n prices to quote...??? how abt wher is cheap to service Bmw bikes...???

Thankz.

-newbee-

 

The other day I removed my battery to trickle charge. When struggling to hold up the tank while getting at the battery, I must have pulled at the fuel line. The Haynes manual did warn against pulling the fuel line, but it was not easy for me not to do so, being the skill-less dork that I am.

 

Anyway, after charging and replacing the battery, the bike firing order was totally screwed. The engine kept dying if I do not open the choke (so that’s what a choke is for in a fuel injection bike!).

 

I was contemplating whether to tow my bike to my regular workshop, then decided to try to ride it to Combine Motors, which is just 10min walking distance from my home.

I managed to nurse it to the shop at about 30 jerky km/hr (once, I rode about 10km to a workshop on a totally flat rear tire in Malaysia so this was no big deal).

 

The mech. washed and retuned the engine for $150 and explained what has caused this sudden problem (fuel line). I started the engine, twisted the throttle a little and my jaw dropped.

 

Now, when a previous mech. serviced and tuned my bike, he would always ask me to ‘rev her and feel the diff’. I would do so and not feel much of a difference but, not wanting to offend him, would say yeah, it feels much better, etc.

To be fair, since I am a dork, I ain’t too sensitive to feel (unless it’s of the sexy nature). For example, some people tell me how powerful their cars/bikes feel after switching from 98 to V-power. I can honestly say I couldn’t feel any difference between V-power and 92octane petrol. Even in Malaysia, I will use regular instead of premium petrol since, again, I don’t find they make any difference.

 

But the day I twisted the throttle at Combine, the change I feel in my bike’s nature was obvious and immediate, no need for any prompting from the mech. The vibration is much reduced and idling is whisper quiet. He did lower the idling speed which I liked as it means the engine wouldn’t overheat so easily in a traffic jam. At times it was so quiet, as compared to the past, I was worried the engine may stall, but it didn’t. This morning’s riding, day 2, the changing of gears also felt smoother.

 

I wouldn’t dare go so far as to recommend this shop as this was only my first visit. But the experience was assuring. I will likely go there for servicing in future and post my thoughts here, if any.

[currypuff]

Very handy for hard to reach batteries. I fitted this to my no-Bayerische bikes and made the battery charging chores as easy as charging a handphone.

 

twisticles, I read your long story of importing your F800GS to Singapore, that's quite an achievement you made

 

Thanks Phang and eh, Twisticles (what a name )

 

Ah Keong of Combine advised me not to meddle with anything under the tank as some of the components are very sensitive, so being able to trickle charge without having to remove the bat is definitely great.

But where do you find a power point in a MSCP to connect the other end to? Or do you not need one?

 

 

Er, Mr Twisticles (dun come near me:eek:), wouldn't it be easier to sell your bike in the UK and get another one here? Or is the price difference so great that it makes all the trouble and cost involved worthwhile?

[contrarian]

The other day I removed my battery to trickle charge. When struggling to hold up the tank while getting at the battery, I must have pulled at the fuel line. The Haynes manual did warn against pulling the fuel line, but it was not easy for me not to do so, being the skill-less dork that I am.

 

Anyway, after charging and replacing the battery, the bike firing order was totally screwed. The engine kept dying if I do not open the choke (so that’s what a choke is for in a fuel injection bike!).

 

I was contemplating whether to tow my bike to my regular workshop, then decided to try to ride it to Combine Motors, which is just 10min walking distance from my home.

I managed to nurse it to the shop at about 30 jerky km/hr (once, I rode about 10km to a workshop on a totally flat rear tire in Malaysia so this was no big deal).

 

The mech. washed and retuned the engine for $150 and explained what has caused this sudden problem (fuel line). I started the engine, twisted the throttle a little and my jaw dropped.

 

Now, when a previous mech. serviced and tuned my bike, he would always ask me to ‘rev her and feel the diff’. I would do so and not feel much of a difference but, not wanting to offend him, would say yeah, it feels much better, etc.

To be fair, since I am a dork, I ain’t too sensitive to feel (unless it’s of the sexy nature). For example, some people tell me how powerful their cars/bikes feel after switching from 98 to V-power. I can honestly say I couldn’t feel any difference between V-power and 92octane petrol. Even in Malaysia, I will use regular instead of premium petrol since, again, I don’t find they make any difference.

 

But the day I twisted the throttle at Combine, the change I feel in my bike’s nature was obvious and immediate, no need for any prompting from the mech. The vibration is much reduced and idling is whisper quiet. He did lower the idling speed which I liked as it means the engine wouldn’t overheat so easily in a traffic jam. At times it was so quiet, as compared to the past, I was worried the engine may stall, but it didn’t. This morning’s riding, day 2, the changing of gears also felt smoother.

 

I wouldn’t dare go so far as to recommend this shop as this was only my first visit. But the experience was assuring. I will likely go there for servicing in future and post my thoughts here, if any.

 

Was it Ah Keong who serviced your bike at Combine?

Using the lowest grade of petrol that your bike can use according to the specs, is an intelligent thing to do. Anything else is a proven waste of money.

[Phang]

Brother currypuff, does your R1100R comes with this power outlet at the starter cover on the left side of your bike?

 

http://stabell-kulo.net/uploaded_images/adv5.jpg

 

If yes, you don’t need to do anything to your bike, just hook up the battery charger to the power outlet socket via a mini cigarette adaptor.

 

This is what I do to charge my R1150R

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v198/Phang/DSCN5610.jpg

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v198/Phang/DSCN5611.jpg

[currypuff]

To Contrarian,

 

I use 92 most of the time although the instruction booklet says min 95. So far (after 2 years of riding), no problems. If normal cars & bikes can survive on 80 something octane petrol in the US, I don't subscribe to 'super powerful specially blended 98 or 100 octane fuel'-that-can-make-your-bike-fly theory.

 

But then, the manual says tire pressure 31psi front and 36 rear (or about). Most mech here insist 36 front and 40-42 rear. So who to believe?

 

Hi Phang. Yes, my bike has that power outlet (as with all boxer BM, I believe). Hmm... using bike battery to recharge same bike battery, power siah.

 

Hey, wait a min. To use the outlet, the battery has to be connected right? So how to charge... oh, never mind. Will get back to you more on this after I get a new battery.

Show me how yah?

 

BTW, do all of you use original BM batteries? Any alternatives available in Singapore?

[fooz]

The new F650GS owners, what's the fuel consumption for your bike?

im getting 22-23km/l.

but i can put in 14L max every time i pump.

i find it very hard to guage the fuel level , as the fuel cover is slanted at an angle. i cant see anything.

have to do an agar-ation, with short burst at the end.

 

how abt u , contrarian?

 

Very handy for hard to reach batteries. I fitted this to my no-Bayerische bikes and made the battery charging chores as easy as charging a handphone.

 

twisticles, I read your long story of importing your F800GS to Singapore, that's quite an achievement you made

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v198/Phang/DSCN4481.jpg

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v198/Phang/DSCN4457.jpg

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v198/Phang/DSCN5965.jpg

 

oh, i got this ctek from limbat.

very handy device., light, portable and good built quality.

i used to trickle charge my prev scoot batt. and, it helps in maintaining it.

but this GS, the batt hard to reach, and no ciggy socket. very troublesome.

 

would installing an aux ciggy socket help?

i mean, the ciggy socket is usu connected to the ignition wire.

but, if trickle charge, we will usu take the batt out and it will be conn directly to the batt itself.

same effect in both cases??

Edited April 14, 2009 by fooz

[fooz]

oh, is there any BMW-prefered workshop that is near MRT (walkable distance).

if i leave my bike, i would like to take public home, rather then cab,

[mamat]

oh, is there any BMW-prefered workshop that is near MRT (walkable distance).

if i leave my bike, i would like to take public home, rather then cab,

 

perfection motors in eunos ind park

[Phang]

Hi Phang. Yes, my bike has that power outlet (as with all boxer BM, I believe). Hmm... using bike battery to recharge same bike battery, power siah.

 

Hey, wait a min. To use the outlet, the battery has to be connected right? So how to charge... oh, never mind. Will get back to you more on this after I get a new battery.

Show me how yah?

 

BTW, do all of you use original BM batteries? Any alternatives available in Singapore?

 

The socket outlet at the side of the R1100xx and R1150xx is a un-switched, fused (fuse 3) direct connection from the socket to the battery positive pole.

 

In another word, it is permanently hot even you turn off the ignition switch/key and pull out the key.

 

You can charge the battery using a battery charger via this socket.

 

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CAN-BUS bikes will shut the port after you turn of the ignition. If you want to charge the battery via the socket, you need to use the original BMW charger which performs a “secret handshake” with the CAN-BUS controller when plugged in before you turn off the ignition switch. The CAN-BUS controller will recognise the changer and will not shut the port after you turn off the ignition.

 

Alternatively, you can make a direct connection to the battery posts to charge the battery if you want to use non-BMW battery charger.

[ysyjona]

Hi ysyjona,

 

This is a car/motorcycle specific power distribution block, I don’t think you can find it in Sim Lim.

 

Congrats on your new bike, which R1150 you bought?

 

I brought it from a bro who have advertise in this forum. It is red in color. One on my good friend who also ride the R1150 saw it and he hook up the contact. I have a RT which is a 10 years old bike. I have some prospective buying viewing my bike. I am now traveling so maybe next week might be letting go of my RT.

[cgl]

hi all, take a look at the picture at

 

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?p=4595414&posted=1#post4595414

 

its similiar to my case :cry:

 

That looks very bad... so did you decided to carry out the engine change?

[cgl]

The other day I removed my battery to trickle charge. When struggling to hold up the tank while getting at the battery, I must have pulled at the fuel line. The Haynes manual did warn against pulling the fuel line, but it was not easy for me not to do so, being the skill-less dork that I am.

 

Anyway, after charging and replacing the battery, the bike firing order was totally screwed. The engine kept dying if I do not open the choke (so that’s what a choke is for in a fuel injection bike!).

 

I was contemplating whether to tow my bike to my regular workshop, then decided to try to ride it to Combine Motors, which is just 10min walking distance from my home.

I managed to nurse it to the shop at about 30 jerky km/hr (once, I rode about 10km to a workshop on a totally flat rear tire in Malaysia so this was no big deal).

 

The mech. washed and retuned the engine for $150 and explained what has caused this sudden problem (fuel line). I started the engine, twisted the throttle a little and my jaw dropped.

 

Now, when a previous mech. serviced and tuned my bike, he would always ask me to ‘rev her and feel the diff’. I would do so and not feel much of a difference but, not wanting to offend him, would say yeah, it feels much better, etc.

To be fair, since I am a dork, I ain’t too sensitive to feel (unless it’s of the sexy nature). For example, some people tell me how powerful their cars/bikes feel after switching from 98 to V-power. I can honestly say I couldn’t feel any difference between V-power and 92octane petrol. Even in Malaysia, I will use regular instead of premium petrol since, again, I don’t find they make any difference.

 

But the day I twisted the throttle at Combine, the change I feel in my bike’s nature was obvious and immediate, no need for any prompting from the mech. The vibration is much reduced and idling is whisper quiet. He did lower the idling speed which I liked as it means the engine wouldn’t overheat so easily in a traffic jam. At times it was so quiet, as compared to the past, I was worried the engine may stall, but it didn’t. This morning’s riding, day 2, the changing of gears also felt smoother.

 

I wouldn’t dare go so far as to recommend this shop as this was only my first visit. But the experience was assuring. I will likely go there for servicing in future and post my thoughts here, if any.

 

Is it possible that the disconnected battery resulted in the fuel injection CPU screwing up?

 

My car battery gave up on me one fine day. The mechanic told me never to disconnect the battery completely, and they changed the battery while the car was running. Disconnecting the battery would cause the car to lose all the fuel injection data. Probably "Combine" had downloaded a new map to your bike. Does your fuel consumption change after that?

[contrarian]

im getting 22-23km/l.

but i can put in 14L max every time i pump.

i find it very hard to guage the fuel level , as the fuel cover is slanted at an angle. i cant see anything.

have to do an agar-ation, with short burst at the end.

 

how abt u , contrarian?

 

About 20-22 km/l. Easiest way is to just pump until the fuel auto cut off and stop.

[f650gs]

That looks very bad... so did you decided to carry out the engine change?

 

ya...after some long and hard thinking....decided to change the engine.... new r will have to wait

[twisticles]

 

twisticles, I read your long story of importing your F800GS to Singapore, that's quite an achievement you made

 

Haha thanks. Not quite finished the blog posting, which almost took as long as importing the bike! But happy I've done it and pleased to be reunited with the love of my life

[twisticles]

 

Er, Mr Twisticles (dun come near me:eek:), wouldn't it be easier to sell your bike in the UK and get another one here? Or is the price difference so great that it makes all the trouble and cost involved worthwhile?

 

Hmm of course it would be 'easier' to sell in the UK and buy here, but the price difference of $8,000 makes it worthwhile (to me at least) especially as I had already paid for the bike in the UK a year ago.

 

I had already fitted all my accessories so didn't want that hassle again...hard to get some of those parts here. Now I have in Singapore not just any old F800GS, but MY 800GS and little bits of UK dirt still stuck in the tyres

 

And also, the value of the bike on the pre-loved market is more in line with Singapore prices now...a used 800GS in singapore is more than a new one in UK

[coolcat]

Anyone here knows anyone who can lay carbon-fibre over fibreglass? Mate of mine need a repair job done.

 

Thanks, and Cheers

 

Cat

[LollyPoP]

this thread is dead?

[cgl]

ya...after some long and hard thinking....decided to change the engine.... new r will have to wait

 

When I was looking for a beemer, the F800ST was the only choice that fits my bill, a few months later, they brought in the R... *sigh*

 

But if I were you, I will do the engine change and the bike would probably run for another round of coe. The R1100S is beautiful.

[jimmy631]

Whats a Hall ignition sensor, and what purpose does it serve? Where to get replacement and which workshop can do it and how much???