Alpinestars Jacket [Fake Vs Original]

[kaznad]

Hi Guys,

 

I had the misfortune of buying a Fake Alpinstars Jacket. As I realised that It was fake I quickly contacted the seller and requested for a refund. Luckily for me, I was able to get a refund.

 

Before I returned the fake jacket, I had taken a few pictures of it. After a few days I bought the Original Alpinestars T-RC 1 Air Flo Jacket.

 

Here are a few ways, I found you can tell the Fake from the original Jacket (Sorry for the lousy pictures, I dun have a good camera with me.)

 

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/kaznad/Alpinestars%20Jacket/Fake%20Jacket/Full.jpghttp://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/kaznad/Alpinestars%20Jacket/Original%20Jacket/Full.jpg

 

For the fake jacket, there are no mesh panels on it. For the original jacket, there are mesh panels on the torso and underarm areas of the jacket.

 

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/kaznad/Alpinestars%20Jacket/Fake%20Jacket/Back.jpghttp://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/kaznad/Alpinestars%20Jacket/Original%20Jacket/Back.jpg

 

Same for the back, the fake jacket did not have any mesh. The original jacket has mesh panel on the lower part of the jacket.

 

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/kaznad/Alpinestars%20Jacket/Original%20Jacket/OpenWithLiner.jpghttp://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/kaznad/Alpinestars%20Jacket/Original%20Jacket/OpenwithoutLiner.jpg

 

I had forgotten to take pictures on the fake jacket with and without the liner full view. I have posted the Original Jacket with and without liner above. What I can tell is the fake jacket has a very thick liner, the orignal one's liner is rather thin like raincoat material. The original one has holes in the liner and the fake one has no holes in the liner. And also the original one has a RED lining on the bottom of the liner which the fake one was missing.

 

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/kaznad/Alpinestars%20Jacket/Fake%20Jacket/LeftPocket.jpghttp://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/kaznad/Alpinestars%20Jacket/Original%20Jacket/LeftPocket.jpg

 

These are the pictures of the left pocket.

 

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/kaznad/Alpinestars%20Jacket/Fake%20Jacket/RightPocket.jpghttp://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/kaznad/Alpinestars%20Jacket/Original%20Jacket/RightPocket.jpg

 

These are the pictures of the right pocket. Notice the original one has the T-RC 1 AIR logo on it.

 

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/kaznad/Alpinestars%20Jacket/Fake%20Jacket/Tag.jpghttp://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/kaznad/Alpinestars%20Jacket/Original%20Jacket/Tag.jpg

 

These are the pictures of the tag. Not much difference here, except the original one has the "Made in Vietnam" tag somewhere else.

 

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/kaznad/Alpinestars%20Jacket/Fake%20Jacket/FoamBack.jpghttp://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/kaznad/Alpinestars%20Jacket/Original%20Jacket/FoamBack.jpg

 

These are the Temperfoam back protectors. Notice the shape is different. Also there are much more holes,(perforation) on the original foam. Also the original foam was more denser, the fake one was almost like a sponge type.

 

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/kaznad/Alpinestars%20Jacket/Fake%20Jacket/FoamFront.jpghttp://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/kaznad/Alpinestars%20Jacket/Original%20Jacket/FoamFront.jpg

 

These are the Temperfoam Front pads. Notice the shape is different. Also there are much more holes,(perforation) on the original foam. Also the original foam was more denser, the fake one was almost like a sponge type.

Edited March 19, 2011 by kaznad

[kaznad]

Now we look at the Elbow and Shoulder protectors.

 

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/kaznad/Alpinestars%20Jacket/Fake%20Jacket/Elbow1.jpghttp://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/kaznad/Alpinestars%20Jacket/Original%20Jacket/Elbow1.jpg

 

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/kaznad/Alpinestars%20Jacket/Fake%20Jacket/Elbow2.jpghttp://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/kaznad/Alpinestars%20Jacket/Original%20Jacket/Elbow2.jpg

 

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/kaznad/Alpinestars%20Jacket/Fake%20Jacket/Elbow3.jpghttp://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/kaznad/Alpinestars%20Jacket/Original%20Jacket/Elbow3.jpg

 

They were very similar, however the original ones are more softer and the original ones has a smoother surface. Also the CE rated mark on the fake ones almost could not be read, very bad quality imprint on it. The original one felt much lighter as well.

 

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/kaznad/Alpinestars%20Jacket/Fake%20Jacket/Shoulder2.jpghttp://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/kaznad/Alpinestars%20Jacket/Original%20Jacket/Shoulder2.jpg

 

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/kaznad/Alpinestars%20Jacket/Fake%20Jacket/Shoulder1.jpghttp://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/kaznad/Alpinestars%20Jacket/Original%20Jacket/Shoulder1.jpg

 

For the shoulder protector, same as the elbow ones. Bad CE Rated imprint on the fake ones, Originals were softer and smoother finish and was lighter.

 

Also the for the Original ones, taking out and putting in the armor was fairly easy. I had some difficulty putting in the armor for the fake ones.

 

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/kaznad/Alpinestars%20Jacket/Original%20Jacket/Hanger.jpg

 

Finally the original ones came with a Alpinestars hanger.

 

Very useful to hang your jacket when you're back home.

 

You can see bro, @vyruz, review on fake Astars glove below. Found it very useful.

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php/302234-Fake-Alpinestars-GP-Pro-Gloves-A-Review

Edited March 19, 2011 by kaznad

[kaozie]

just curious, where you got this fake???

 

care to share?

[kimmeng]

just curious, where do you get the original one?

i am intending to get one a* jacket too.

mind sharing the place and cost of it?

[kaznad]

just curious, where you got this fake???

 

care to share?

 

Got it from a forumer here in SBF.

 

just curious, where do you get the original one?

i am intending to get one a* jacket too.

mind sharing the place and cost of it?

 

Bought it locally at R*****. Cost is S$330, which I find is expensive. I could have gotten it online for S$310 including shipping, but I would have to wait for 2 months as they no stock and I din want to wait so I decided to just get it. Also just to let you guys know, the retail price for this jacket is S$280 only in USA.

 

There are a lot of fake Astars Jacket around. Be careful when purchasing your Astars Jacket. The china imitation one can be easily gotten at only S$160. But I would not recommend anyone getting it, unless you just want to buy Astars jacket for the "Show" factor and not the safety feature they provide.

 

Also stay away from China and Hong Kong sites that sells them. If your seller is from these countries, chances are they are fake as well. That is why my MO for Alpinestars SMX-2 gloves I had gotten from the USA. But to be more sure of the authenticity, I made sure that I got them from the Alpinestars authorized dealer in USA.

 

As a guideline, if the seller is selling below retail price it is probably fake , unless they are used of course.

[mechwira]

Got it from a forumer here in SBF.

 

i'm curious about a few things, but i understand if you dun want to reveal details. i oso wont ask who the forumer is, altho i'm pretty dam sure other forumers who regularly buy stuff here would be curious.

 

Did the forumer know it was a fake? if he didn, means he was in a way cheated by his supplier?

 

Or if he knew it was a fake, did he openly declare it was not genuine or at least openly declare it was a taiwanese/hong kong/chinese 'replica', and thus sold you at 'replica' price? or did he knowingly tried selling you a fake item at lowered-but-genuine-article kind of price?

 

coz another thread has a forumer showing counterfeit arai being sold across the causeway, and from his pics i seriously couldn tell it was counterfeit. at least that one the 'northern' sellers openly state it was a 'taiwanese replica' and the price was a dead giveaway. but i wonder how long before someone gets cheated into paying good money for wat he thinks is a genuine arai.

 

the problem is that there is no dead giveaways. you can compare the density of the armour and stuff and take note of missing minor logos, but the fact is only someone who has the actual genuine article for comparison on the spot or has worn genuine astar or arai before then can spot these. i have never worn astar nor arai and i doubt i can spot different material feel and missing minor logos.

[QuaXum]

hi, i bought a fake A* jacket over in hk, for only $80 sgp. reason being, i'm too cheap for the $330 originals.

[kaznad]

i'm curious about a few things, but i understand if you dun want to reveal details. i oso wont ask who the forumer is, altho i'm pretty dam sure other forumers who regularly buy stuff here would be curious.

 

Did the forumer know it was a fake? if he didn, means he was in a way cheated by his supplier?

 

Or if he knew it was a fake, did he openly declare it was not genuine or at least openly declare it was a taiwanese/hong kong/chinese 'replica', and thus sold you at 'replica' price? or did he knowingly tried selling you a fake item at lowered-but-genuine-article kind of price?

 

coz another thread has a forumer showing counterfeit arai being sold across the causeway, and from his pics i seriously couldn tell it was counterfeit. at least that one the 'northern' sellers openly state it was a 'taiwanese replica' and the price was a dead giveaway. but i wonder how long before someone gets cheated into paying good money for wat he thinks is a genuine arai.

 

the problem is that there is no dead giveaways. you can compare the density of the armour and stuff and take note of missing minor logos, but the fact is only someone who has the actual genuine article for comparison on the spot or has worn genuine astar or arai before then can spot these. i have never worn astar nor arai and i doubt i can spot different material feel and missing minor logos.

 

Hi, I dun mind sharing the details with anyone. Just dun want to post it publicly. PM me if you would like to know and I can give you full details.

 

And before I bought it, I did ask if it was original and he mentioned it was original, he also claimed that he bringing it in from USA. But later on when I find out it was fake, he gave me a refund without any hesitation.

[kaznad]

hi, i bought a fake A* jacket over in hk, for only $80 sgp. reason being, i'm too cheap for the $330 originals.

 

I hope you dun ride in them bro.

 

Also I realized something, everyone start their post with, "I am curious"

There are a lot of curious ppl here.

[kaozie]

I hope you dun ride in them bro.

 

Also I realized something, everyone start their post with, "I am curious"

There are a lot of curious ppl here.

 

better to play safe... its our hard earn money after all...

[kaozie]

I hope you dun ride in them bro.

 

Also I realized something, everyone start their post with, "I am curious"

There are a lot of curious ppl here.

 

better to play safe... its our hard earn money after all...

[kaznad]

better to play safe... its our hard earn money after all...

 

I agree...

[CSV]

i think i know who the seller is.

 

i bought the exact jacket from him also.

 

my jacket has mesh panels, but the liner has no stitching on it.

 

so is mine fake or real?

[kaznad]

i think i know who the seller is.

 

i bought the exact jacket from him also.

 

my jacket has mesh panels, but the liner has no stitching on it.

 

so is mine fake or real?

 

I have PMed you bro...

[kaznad]

Forgot to add one more thing.

 

The original jacket had this tag that says "do not put any objects into the back protector pocket etc". I dunno why got this tag, maybe some goondo put a macbook air in the pocket or something.... haha...

 

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/kaznad/Alpinestars%20Jacket/Original%20Jacket/BackProtectorTag.jpg

[QuaXum]

I hope you dun ride in them bro.

 

Also I realized something, everyone start their post with, "I am curious"

There are a lot of curious ppl here.

 

Reason being?

[kaznad]

Reason being?

 

Coz I dunno if the Jacket will protect you if you go down. Which I hope you never do.

 

Imagine the stitching comes apart in case of a mishap...

 

I have read online, those guys went down with quality gear, nothing happen to them and plus point the gear also was intact with a bit of scuffs...

 

Of coz, it beats wearing no gear at all... But best is something you can trust in case of a fall...

[beetlejuice66]

good point there u got bro...my 2 cent advise is b4 u purchase the jacket no matter wat model it is...ensure to enquire.due to some of the model made are not exactly the same,but do take down the points.....make sure it's from us...cos feedback i got from foreign bikers...out of 10, 9 of them sellin the original...buyin from asia..like china,hkg,taiwan is a bit risky...sharin with u guys my opinion...:cheers:anyway like wat our TS said...when u receive the apline hanger u got the rite items! agree!....upps my fellow sg riders......

[kaozie]

if they can copy the jacket, to copy a hanger shouldn't be that difficult...

[kaznad]

if they can copy the jacket, to copy a hanger shouldn't be that difficult...

 

I agree bro, very scary to see how they can create copies of just about anything... But the Hanger wouldn't be of high quality I guess. The original hanger is very sturdy... The other thing is, making the hanger would mean higher production cost for the pirates so that's why they probably dun make them...

Edited March 21, 2011 by kaznad

[mechwira]

i have to agree one thing tho. someone mentioned if ur never gonna spend the cost of a genuine astar, then this counterfeit is still better than nothing. but thats provided you've got a seller who openly declares his product is a counterfeit and you're paying counterfeit price, rather than cheated into paying original price for counterfeit jacket.

 

but the counterfeit arai is really something else. no way should anybody be putting on a counterfeit helmet. i think a genuine cheap m-fizz would be safer than a counterfeit arai.

[kaznad]

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/fake-eggs-china.shtml

 

Is there nothing that can be copied? :faint:

[kaozie]

i have to agree one thing tho. someone mentioned if ur never gonna spend the cost of a genuine astar, then this counterfeit is still better than nothing. but thats provided you've got a seller who openly declares his product is a counterfeit and you're paying counterfeit price, rather than cheated into paying original price for counterfeit jacket.

 

but the counterfeit arai is really something else. no way should anybody be putting on a counterfeit helmet. i think a genuine cheap m-fizz would be safer than a counterfeit arai.

 

for those who can afford a 20-30k bike, i see no reason he cannot afford a genuine jacket or helmet...

[mechwira]

for those who can afford a 20-30k bike, i see no reason he cannot afford a genuine jacket or helmet...

 

i'm not referring to the 'rich' 20k-30k bike owners. these got no excuse, i agree.

 

i'm referring to younger ones on 2b bikes who will pay like S$100++ for a fake arai and a fake astar, knowing full well they are fakes but putting them on anyway for fashion's sake. these wont or cant buy the genuine articles costing several hundred bucks. indeed the fake astar better than not wearing any jacket at all. but between a $100 fake arai and a $70 genuine m-fizz, i think the youngster better off with the genuine m-fizz. thats what i mean.

 

of coz you and others can disagree and claim that even $5k cub-chai owner can and should afford the several-hundred-bucks helmet and jacket, coz everybody's head and skin is same material. i dun like preaching that far; i'm a "dun go below minimum standards" instead of "always go for maximum standards" kind of preacher.

[quikslvr]

Forgot to add one more thing.

 

The original jacket had this tag that says "do not put any objects into the back protector pocket etc". I dunno why got this tag, maybe some goondo put a macbook air in the pocket or something.... haha...

 

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/kaznad/Alpinestars%20Jacket/Original%20Jacket/BackProtectorTag.jpg

 

I have put a book,a couple of bike magazines,socks and dvds in the back protector pocket coz i got no box or bag to carry stuffs.of course not all at the same time la.anyway ups for you.i always believe in the genuine stuff..