Honda Blackbird CBR1100 XX

[speedjpop]

Hi Gwee,

 

I followed strictly 290PSI for both front n rear. I pillion 30% of the time n i find that its acceptable. Tried lower than 290PSI but felt the feeling is 'soft'. Pump higher than 290PSI, too bouncy!...

[Gweester]

Originally posted by speedjpop@Apr 19 2006, 09:13 PM

Hi Gwee,

 

I followed strictly 290PSI for both front n rear. I pillion 30% of the time n i find that its acceptable. Tried lower than 290PSI but felt the feeling is 'soft'. Pump higher than 290PSI, too bouncy!...

290psi???

u sure? i think you got the unit wrong....

are you referring to KPA or BAR?

correct me if i am wrong...

[SaintDuDu]

Originally posted by Gweester@Apr 19 2006, 03:53 PM

Any advise on tire pressure on the bird?

If the following correct?

Front: 35psi

Rear: 40psi

 

Appreciate your input.

Cheers!

front 38psi

rear 40psi

[Wei_De]

Originally posted by Gweester@Apr 19 2006, 03:50 PM

good luck dude!

HAIZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

e vibration got worse... vibrate more vigorously than b4 i sent in... alignment stil e same, travel slowly to e left... wat shld i do?????? i tink to change a new bike is a better way, but how to get it refunded? also afraid dat e bike shop will chop me back... aiyo... how how how??? i put my deposit for dis bike on 22/03/06 but e bike was transferred to my name n insured on 27/03/06, took e bike on 28/03/06... first day rode on it, fuse burnt... 2days later FI came out n went in bike shop but cant determine e fault code so was ask to carry on riding... FI came out again n fault code was noted n was send back to bike shop another 2days later, but dis time long down time... initially was told dat might take weeks or months cos ECM no stock n ask me to carry on ride it wif e FI light til e stock comes, but den 04/04/06 was being told dat its fixed n can collect bike liaoz... den 05/04/06 can really start to ride my BB... but den i realise dat e alignment is out n e handle bar vibrates when free hand... but got no time to go back til 07/04/06, went back to bike shop to let dem 'zham' my front wheel, but then still e same... den got no time to go back til last thurs(13/04/06) but mechanic not free, so monday afternoon i den sent in n took back today, but e alignment probs stil exist... e bike can stil ride, but not comfort at all... spent $10k to ride a not comfortable bike is sh*t lor... i really dunno wat to do next le... went to bike shop til sianz liaoz... n nobody's at fault... wat shld i do??? LOST.........................

 

ps: sorry pple for hearing all these nonsense which doesn't concern of u guys... thank you guys for hearing me out n ur valuable advises... if i can nag so much, u noe how uncomfortable i am to ride dis bike... den 4D also nv open, if not straight away ask dem take back n get a new one out...

[Dino Bravo]

Originally posted by Wei_De@Apr 19 2006, 01:27 AM

ya lor... will wait til i get e probs fixed first lor... scaly i refund e bike... if so, den a new BB will b coming out liaoz... but hope to solve e alignment den can liaoz, if not 1st hand BB quite ex for me... insurance is always e killer... last sat saw a white hayabusa at jalan kayu... really nice...

i selling my Blackbird. If you can get a refund, maybe you wanna C.O.I or reloan?

confirm dun have problem like ur bike wan. confirm plus chop ah hahaha! ask saintdudu or ano they should know. well taken care of. no nonsense problems... alignment swee swee wan. let me know if you interested ba. ride for ard 5-6mths only. balance 14K. also help me ask your frens if any one looking for BB okay?

 

ano, ur fren selling his ZX6 huh? hmmm if can sell the BB, might consider his ZX6 leh backside itchy liao

help me pass the info to him k. thanks dude

[Dino Bravo]

Originally posted by Wei_De@Apr 20 2006, 12:04 AM

HAIZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

e vibration got worse... vibrate more vigorously than b4 i sent in... alignment stil e same, travel slowly to e left... wat shld i do?????? i tink to change a new bike is a better way, but how to get it refunded? also afraid dat e bike shop will chop me back... aiyo... how how how??? i put my deposit for dis bike on 22/03/06 but e bike was transferred to my name n insured on 27/03/06, took e bike on 28/03/06... first day rode on it, fuse burnt... 2days later FI came out n went in bike shop but cant determine e fault code so was ask to carry on riding... FI came out again n fault code was noted n was send back to bike shop another 2days later, but dis time long down time... initially was told dat might take weeks or months cos ECM no stock n ask me to carry on ride it wif e FI light til e stock comes, but den 04/04/06 was being told dat its fixed n can collect bike liaoz... den 05/04/06 can really start to ride my BB... but den i realise dat e alignment is out n e handle bar vibrates when free hand... but got no time to go back til 07/04/06, went back to bike shop to let dem 'zham' my front wheel, but then still e same... den got no time to go back til last thurs(13/04/06) but mechanic not free, so monday afternoon i den sent in n took back today, but e alignment probs stil exist... e bike can stil ride, but not comfort at all... spent $10k to ride a not comfortable bike is sh*t lor... i really dunno wat to do next le... went to bike shop til sianz liaoz... n nobody's at fault... wat shld i do??? LOST.........................

 

ps: sorry pple for hearing all these nonsense which doesn't concern of u guys... thank you guys for hearing me out n ur valuable advises... if i can nag so much, u noe how uncomfortable i am to ride dis bike... den 4D also nv open, if not straight away ask dem take back n get a new one out...

well, IMO... i feel that since the bike is so jialat liao, fixing the problem only fixes it. its not 100% already. and there might still be other problems that you have not realised yet as you can't "feel" it... YET. well thats in my opinion, others might view it a diff way.

The bike really damn jialat man. i'd suggest you bring this case up and refund whatever you have paid for the bike. then start from scratch over again. get a new Bird or find another better condition 2nd hand Bird. lor.

you might wanna consider my ride if you manage to get a refund. but of cos if you can find a better maintained bike, or better deal, by all means go ahead.

most importantly, you gotta feel good with what you paid for.

Would be nice to see my BB riden by someone from the BB group

[Wei_De]

any1 noe how much does a new BB cost?

[Dino Bravo]

OTR, a new BB will cost ard 21-22K depends on your age.

machine price alone is ard 19K if i'm not wrong.

[beary]

Originally posted by SaintDuDu@Apr 19 2006, 10:48 PM

front 38psi

rear 40psi

i'm pumping 240 (front) and 260 (rear)..

ok rite..??

pillion only once in a while..

 

 

weide: new BB cost 21.5K OTR (on average)

 

Sorry to hear ur sad story on ur BB...

Dats the problem when buying 2nd-hand bikes from shops..

U'll never know wat it've been thru'..

 

Anyway, the vibration from ur bike, could be caused by the front tire.

I'm having the same problem after changing a set of 2nd-hand tires...

The front tire is out of shape, thus when i do a "free-hand" at 70kph. my bike starts to vibrate violently...

I'm still using the same set of tires as the thread still left wif 30%.

 

So, u can try to see if the tires are out of shape. No harm trying since u already done so much..

I doubt the bikeshop will let u refund the bike..

Highly unlikely..especially transfer and insurance all done..and so much repairs done also..

 

Cheers dude!

[MiddleAgedBiker]

Originally posted by Wei_De@Apr 20 2006, 12:04 AM

HAIZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

e vibration got worse... vibrate more vigorously than b4 i sent in... alignment stil e same, travel slowly to e left... wat shld i do?????? i tink to change a new bike is a better way, but how to get it refunded? also afraid dat e bike shop will chop me back... aiyo... how how how??? i put my deposit for dis bike on 22/03/06 but e bike was transferred to my name n insured on 27/03/06, took e bike on 28/03/06... first day rode on it, fuse burnt... 2days later FI came out n went in bike shop but cant determine e fault code so was ask to carry on riding... FI came out again n fault code was noted n was send back to bike shop another 2days later, but dis time long down time... initially was told dat might take weeks or months cos ECM no stock n ask me to carry on ride it wif e FI light til e stock comes, but den 04/04/06 was being told dat its fixed n can collect bike liaoz... den 05/04/06 can really start to ride my BB... but den i realise dat e alignment is out n e handle bar vibrates when free hand... but got no time to go back til 07/04/06, went back to bike shop to let dem 'zham' my front wheel, but then still e same... den got no time to go back til last thurs(13/04/06) but mechanic not free, so monday afternoon i den sent in n took back today, but e alignment probs stil exist... e bike can stil ride, but not comfort at all... spent $10k to ride a not comfortable bike is sh*t lor... i really dunno wat to do next le... went to bike shop til sianz liaoz... n nobody's at fault... wat shld i do??? LOST.........................

 

ps: sorry pple for hearing all these nonsense which doesn't concern of u guys... thank you guys for hearing me out n ur valuable advises... if i can nag so much, u noe how uncomfortable i am to ride dis bike... den 4D also nv open, if not straight away ask dem take back n get a new one out...

Hi Wei De,

I think its good that you post your problems here, we all can share and learn.

 

Here are my suggestions. (Let's assume the bike vibrates badly at 80kmh). Try the following and write back with your findings.

 

1) Let's try to isolate the problem. We first try to isolate the transmission as the problem. Go to 80kmh, and pull in the clutch. Does it vibrate less?

 

2) Go to 80kmh, change to neutral, hit the engine kill switch to turn off the engine (make sure you're in neutral!). Does it vibrate less?

 

3) Check your rear sprocket to front sprocket alignment. What you want to check is, are the two sprockets in line on the vertical plane? ie. is the chain running in one plane? For eg. if your front sprocket is a little to the left and your rear sprocket is a little to the right, your chain is not running straight.

 

To check, try to get a long ruler or a very straight piece of hard wire, and lay it down on the rear sprocket. It should be able to lay flat on the front sprocket as well. I don't own a bird so I don't know if anything will get in the way. Or you can "eyeball" it but it won't be as accurate. Use your imagination.

 

4) Is your tyre presure at the correct setting? Underinflated tyres will cause rough running.

 

5) Is your rear tyre aligned correctly in the swingarm? Don't trust the markings on the swingarm, on many production bikes, they are not accurate. Take a long welding wire or strighten a clothes hanger and use that to measure from a fixed reference point on your swingarm, for eg. the centre of the swingarm axle. Measure that the distance from the axle to the chain adjustment nut, check it is the same on both sides.

 

6) Are your front forks straight? Eyeball then down the length of the tubes, the 2 tubes should be parallel.

 

7) Is your front tyre aligned to your rear tyre? There are many ways to check this, use google.

 

8) Put your bike up on the centre stand. Grab the rear tyre and try to twist it side to side. Is there any play? (You're checking that the bearings are not shot and all the shims necessary are there)

 

9) Grab the front tyre and do the same, try to twist it side to side (have someone hold the handlebars), does it have any play? Even slight play is very bad, it gets magnified when you go fast.

 

10) Grab the forks at the bottom near the wheel, try to pull and push them in every direction, are they tight? is there any play at all? We're checking the steering head bearings.

 

- Anything else anyone can think of?

 

All these tests assumes that your main frame is ok and has not been buggered in a major accident. If it has then changing the frame would be the only way to go. Try to do all these tests and write back, it could be something simple like a bad bearing or alignment, or it could be something unfixable, such as a rewelded frame after a bad accident.

 

Write back and let us know what you find! All the best.

[misterbean]

Originally posted by Gweester@Apr 19 2006, 10:03 PM

290psi???

u sure? i think you got the unit wrong....

are you referring to KPA or BAR?

correct me if i am wrong...

Should be 290kpa ... me doing the same also ... and make it a point to pump up before going on a long trip

[anodise57]

Tat is experience !!!! Good info for all!!!!

[anodise57]

Dino... selling BB already? so fast... wat happened???? aiyoh......

[Lonewolf]

For tyre alignment ( pls correct if wrong ) just go for inspection at vicom, they got that machine that will sqeeze the tyre to check alignment. Mine was 5% off when i ride with one hand my handle start shaking like ricky Martin.

 

 

CNN got caught riding at 103kmh at lim chu kang road ( the backup runway in front of Tengah airbase) , cenna 8pts and $170, for 103kmh waaah lao.

 

Did not see the speed limit was 70 thought it was 90 for such a huge and straught rd, at 1am was actualy quite lucky i was initialy going at 160 intending to go 200 but something told me to slow down so i thought 100 should be ok.

[Lonewolf]

PS : Looi's quoted me $300 for both tyres bridgestone, is this ex or the tyre really sucks.

 

My BB getting old (2001 model) , consumption higher is now at 220km for full tank, some more just change air filter ($80)

[Gweester]

Originally posted by Lonewolf@Apr 20 2006, 05:05 PM

PS : Looi's quoted me $300 for both tyres bridgestone, is this ex or the tyre really sucks.

 

My BB getting old (2001 model) , consumption higher is now at 220km for full tank, some more just change air filter ($80)

220km for a full tank?

how fast are you running?

My bird is also 2001 model.....runs 300km per tank....(average about 120km/h)...

[Gweester]

Originally posted by Lonewolf@Apr 20 2006, 04:58 PM

For tyre alignment ( pls correct if wrong ) just go for inspection at vicom, they got that machine that will sqeeze the tyre to check alignment. Mine was 5% off when i ride with one hand my handle start shaking like ricky Martin.

 

 

CNN got caught riding at 103kmh at lim chu kang road ( the backup runway in front of Tengah airbase) , cenna 8pts and $170, for 103kmh waaah lao.

 

Did not see the speed limit was 70 thought it was 90 for such a huge and straught rd, at 1am was actualy quite lucky i was initialy going at 160 intending to go 200 but something told me to slow down so i thought 100 should be ok.

sway!!!

damn those TP....

eat money eat points...

[Dino Bravo]

Originally posted by anodise57@Apr 20 2006, 02:53 PM

Dino... selling BB already? so fast... wat happened???? aiyoh......

backside itchy lor... eyeing track bike

anyone looking for blackbird?

[Wei_De]

Originally posted by MiddleAgedBiker@Apr 20 2006, 10:32 AM

Hi Wei De,

I think its good that you post your problems here, we all can share and learn.

 

Here are my suggestions. (Let's assume the bike vibrates badly at 80kmh). Try the following and write back with your findings.

 

1) Let's try to isolate the problem. We first try to isolate the transmission as the problem. Go to 80kmh, and pull in the clutch. Does it vibrate less?

 

2) Go to 80kmh, change to neutral, hit the engine kill switch to turn off the engine (make sure you're in neutral!). Does it vibrate less?

 

3) Check your rear sprocket to front sprocket alignment. What you want to check is, are the two sprockets in line on the vertical plane? ie. is the chain running in one plane? For eg. if your front sprocket is a little to the left and your rear sprocket is a little to the right, your chain is not running straight.

 

To check, try to get a long ruler or a very straight piece of hard wire, and lay it down on the rear sprocket. It should be able to lay flat on the front sprocket as well. I don't own a bird so I don't know if anything will get in the way. Or you can "eyeball" it but it won't be as accurate. Use your imagination.

 

4) Is your tyre presure at the correct setting? Underinflated tyres will cause rough running.

 

5) Is your rear tyre aligned correctly in the swingarm? Don't trust the markings on the swingarm, on many production bikes, they are not accurate. Take a long welding wire or strighten a clothes hanger and use that to measure from a fixed reference point on your swingarm, for eg. the centre of the swingarm axle. Measure that the distance from the axle to the chain adjustment nut, check it is the same on both sides.

 

6) Are your front forks straight? Eyeball then down the length of the tubes, the 2 tubes should be parallel.

 

7) Is your front tyre aligned to your rear tyre? There are many ways to check this, use google.

 

8) Put your bike up on the centre stand. Grab the rear tyre and try to twist it side to side. Is there any play? (You're checking that the bearings are not shot and all the shims necessary are there)

 

9) Grab the front tyre and do the same, try to twist it side to side (have someone hold the handlebars), does it have any play? Even slight play is very bad, it gets magnified when you go fast.

 

10) Grab the forks at the bottom near the wheel, try to pull and push them in every direction, are they tight? is there any play at all? We're checking the steering head bearings.

 

- Anything else anyone can think of?

 

All these tests assumes that your main frame is ok and has not been buggered in a major accident. If it has then changing the frame would be the only way to go. Try to do all these tests and write back, it could be something simple like a bad bearing or alignment, or it could be something unfixable, such as a rewelded frame after a bad accident.

 

Write back and let us know what you find! All the best.

thanks bro... actually i meant e handle bar vibrate(moving left n right very fast)... not e whole bike vibrate... but i tink now i dun need to bother so much liaoz... mayb gotta take note on wat problem will a new bike face along e way... i trade in for $8K n took a new bike for $21K OTR wif a FJ***L, 3 digit number plate free...

 

really thank u all to endure hearing my probs over n over again during e past 1 mth... lugi abit of money la, but in exchange for new n comfort ride... damn sway to take e FT... sianz... anyway, thanks for all e advises... thanks gweester, but tink i dun need e wind screen liaoz...

[anodise57]

Wei_de...tat is tank slap.... which is uncommon for BB without BOXES!!!!

[Wei_De]

Originally posted by anodise57@Apr 21 2006, 02:09 AM

Wei_de...tat is tank slap.... which is uncommon for BB without BOXES!!!!

tank slap? e handle bar din really move a lot, but shaking or jittering lor...

[Gweester]

Wei De, no worries.....

anyway, just glad to have another happy "BIRD" rovering on the streets....

Happy riding....

[Lonewolf]

Originally posted by Gweester@Apr 20 2006, 05:58 PM

220km for a full tank?

how fast are you running?

My bird is also 2001 model.....runs 300km per tank....(average about 120km/h)...

adverage about 110, but alot of short distance riding about 8km.

[sepet]

hhmm,i got till 345 max...normal 110-120km/h riding...

but ol bike ler...fs plater!!!

niwae anione using any aftermarket pipes..?like veri chio sia...

lonewolf:loois can get 300 for a set of bridgestone tyres...so cheap one ah..?btw,where's loois...sori i suaku one...

[beary]

another new birdy on the road!