[Discussion] Technical - Air Filter

[redders]

wats is the price list of all these filter..

filter filter..not filter lane suaa...

[VOODOO_DOLL]

Originally posted by Flaky_Boi@January 24, 2007 12:47 am

My preference in sequence order: (1)BMC (2)PiperCross (3) KNN

 

 

Who the hell will vote for Stock filter????? haha

Many aftermarket filters let in more dirt than OEM filters. The dirt enters through the intake valves into the combustion chamber. Now imagine a fine layer of grit coating the cylinder walls as your piston rings rub it back and forth. It will accelerate the wear of the bore, causing scratches that lead to poor ring seal, eventually leading to oil consumption and lost HP.

 

I was advise by a knowledgeable person, so i dun see its a joke for ppl who vote 4 stock.(no offend) Hope to share the knowledge with u guys out there....

 

Anyway, we r lookin for improvements to our bikes.

 

Cheers & enjoy ridding.

[Crazy]

Originally posted by VOODOO_DOLL@January 27, 2007 03:10 pm

Many aftermarket filters let in more dirt than OEM filters. The dirt enters through the intake valves into the combustion chamber. Now imagine a fine layer of grit coating the cylinder walls as your piston rings rub it back and forth. It will accelerate the wear of the bore, causing scratches that lead to poor ring seal, eventually leading to oil consumption and lost HP.

 

I was advise by a knowledgeable person, so i dun see its a joke for ppl who vote 4 stock.(no offend) Hope to share the knowledge with u guys out there....

 

Anyway, we r lookin for improvements to our bikes.

 

Cheers & enjoy ridding.

But i am not the one who vote it:cheeky: .

 

Each got it own good.

[mudman]

Originally posted by VOODOO_DOLL@January 27, 2007 03:10 pm

Many aftermarket filters let in more dirt than OEM filters. The dirt enters through the intake valves into the combustion chamber. Now imagine a fine layer of grit coating the cylinder walls as your piston rings rub it back and forth. It will accelerate the wear of the bore, causing scratches that lead to poor ring seal, eventually leading to oil consumption and lost HP.

 

I was advise by a knowledgeable person, so i dun see its a joke for ppl who vote 4 stock.(no offend) Hope to share the knowledge with u guys out there....

 

Anyway, we r lookin for improvements to our bikes.

 

Cheers & enjoy ridding.

thanks for the info bro ..think i'll still stick to stock then .

[mudman]

jus DIY changed my air filter bros....stock air filter still looks clean, but since i bought a new orig oem honda air filter, might as well jus change..

 

however when i diy my bro's vtec(using kNN), the chamber where the airfilter is slotted into was splattered with oil........a very big difference from mine (using oem air filter)..so he changed back to oem air filter as well ...

 

=)

 

[tt6389]

I wander what's the mesh size of the stock air filter vs the KNN 's mesh size. I didn't really thought about it till after reading this thread. The mesh size of the filter are supposed to be indicated on the packaging. If its same size , then its safe to use the KNN or BMC or whatever. No grit will pass through.

 

Mesh size can help to compare the opening sizes of the holes on the filters.

 

Why I prefer KNN? Coz there is greater air flow at high rpm; I confirmed that during a dyno. During the dyno, at high rpm >9000, my S4 's exhaust CO is comparatively lower than a R1 , even when the R1 has fuel injection but no KNN. This means better fuel economy. No wander my FC at below 100km/hr is same as > 140km/hr.

 

 

[Guest quizesilver]

the mesh of knn filter is bigger as it is made of sponge

whereas oem filter are make of paper like material

 

which explain the higher flow rate. also knn make use of the oil to trap the dust etc which is why u need to clean is too

[mudman]

for those bros who are curious, take a look at the pic i attached.

 

it's an oem air filter and a KNN air filter...side by side...

[sky_vinz]

mudman: Thks bro! Great pic over there. I've not seen any OEM or K&N air filters before, coz I got a K&N air filter fixed on before collecting my bike from shop. Hmm.. Seems as though OEM air filter has a better design? =P

[mudman]

i like the fact that a lot of the dust from the road is being trapped inside the OEM filter bro , will take a pic of the used OEM filter tonite and show u. i have never changed my filter since i got my bike in aug 05 and i am amazed at how clean and dry the whole chamber is ........=)

[senate747]

mind u, that pic of the dirty K&N filter by mudman is actually from the spec 1 i just bght recently...

[mudman]

Originally posted by senate747@March 01, 2007 01:01 pm

mind u, that pic of the dirty K&N filter by mudman is actually from the spec 1 i just bght recently...

SKy Vinz, this is my real brother!

lol:cheer:

[sky_vinz]

mudman: Yea, can c. Haha! Meet up wif 2 of u soon!

[senate747]

okok, coffee anytime. my bike's like a wkend bike...

[ahsong]

Hi bros, have u all see a pic of a super4 spc 1 or 2 that never use air box just using air filter? really can dun use ar? if rain how? must be powerful with out air box...

[Sonicgear]

not they don wanna use cos cant use... fcr and yoshi carb is an open pod air intake... cannot fit our air box soo use open pod air filter....

[ahsong]

Ic:cheeky: do singapore sell yoshi carb? and is it more powerful?

[WingZer0]

yoshi carbs? got sell...but the price is

[sfazruzs]

IMO and for me, I do really need. Unless if I go play track den I guess I don't really need.

[MikeS4M]

Open port carb (YOSHI CARB) price 2k+++++++++++++SGD

[biting_point]

Originally posted by Mike@S4M@April 11, 2007 06:46 pm

Open port carb (YOSHI CARB) price 2k+++++++++++++SGD

SWALLOW PETROL!!

[Erotomania]

stock = petrol drink with straw

mod = petrol drink with glass

mod + yoshii carb = petrol drink with jug

[Cowboy]

http://www.knfilters.com/products_needed/d...&md=FZ1&en=1000

 

HOPE THAT YOU GUYS CAN HELP (e more e better):

 

-CLICK ON THE LINK, TYPE IN YOUR NAME & EMAIL, SENT.

 

HOPED THAT BY SUBMITING MORE REQUESTS WILL CONVINCE KNN AIR FILTER MANUFACTURER , THAT THERE IS A BIG DEMANDS FOR 06/07 FAZER .THEREFORE THEY WILL TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY & MAKE IT AVAILABLE IN SHORT TIME.

 

SO THAT IT IS AVAILABLE FOR FAZER SOON............THKS...

 

 

http://www.knfilters.com/products_needed/d...&md=FZ1&en=1000

[biting_point]

Originally posted by quizesilver@February 26, 2007 03:11 pm

the mesh of knn filter is bigger as it is made of sponge

whereas oem filter are make of paper like material

 

which explain the higher flow rate. also knn make use of the oil to trap the dust etc which is why u need to clean is too

i think you are wrong.. K&N and BMC filter uses mesh/paper material, but washable.. they advise to air dry instead of blow dry because blow dry may damage the filter..

 

only pipercross filter uses sponge/foam and washing wise, smae as K&N and BMC.. no to blow dry also..

 

I've used K&N and pipercross before.. when K&N installled, sound more 'garang' and louder, airflow wise better than OEM.. when installed Pipercross, sound soften and airflow was much better than K&N.. to a certain extend, air flows in too much.. thus making pickup a little retarded..

 

why ppl buy reusable filter..? because they are washable and reusable.. whereas OEM ones are not.. price of changing the OEM filter compared to washing and maintaining the aftermarket ones is relatively higher..

furthermore, aftermarket filters allows more air to flow, thus improving a bit of performance..

the downside of aftermarket filters would be the tuning and washing of carbs may need to be done more frequently..

 

just my 2cents..

[Guest quizesilver]

Originally posted by biting_point@April 21, 2007 02:00 pm

i think you are wrong.. K&N and BMC filter uses mesh/paper material, but washable.. they advise to air dry instead of blow dry because blow dry may damage the filter..

 

only pipercross filter uses sponge/foam and washing wise, smae as K&N and BMC.. no to blow dry also..

 

I've used K&N and pipercross before.. when K&N installled, sound more 'garang' and louder, airflow wise better than OEM.. when installed Pipercross, sound soften and airflow was much better than K&N.. to a certain extend, air flows in too much.. thus making pickup a little retarded..

 

why ppl buy reusable filter..? because they are washable and reusable.. whereas OEM ones are not.. price of changing the OEM filter compared to washing and maintaining the aftermarket ones is relatively higher..

furthermore, aftermarket filters allows more air to flow, thus improving a bit of performance..

the downside of aftermarket filters would be the tuning and washing of carbs may need to be done more frequently..

 

just my 2cents..

which part of my post is incorrect?

 

pls see HERE.

 

btw how can foam "flow" better then "A K&N Air Filter is made of 4 to 6 layers of cotton gauze sandwiched between two epoxy-coated aluminum wire screens."

 

original sentence by me:

the mesh of knn filter is bigger as it is made of sponge

whereas oem filter are make of paper like material

 

which explain the higher flow rate. also knn make use of the oil to trap the dust etc which is why u need to clean is too