Why 3000cc Taxis? Encourage Taxidrivers to SPEED?

[raz]

Most of the taxi companies are replacing their old 1.6~1.8litre cabs to 3.0 litre/ 3000cc Toyota Crown

 

I still dun understand y they need big cc taxi on singapore roads... a 1.6~2.0 is good enuff!!! taxi drivers tend to take it for granted... i dun mean all taxi drivers are like that but there are too many black sheeps in this line that causes so many road users to "hate" them... and sometimes i will feel that its the car that gained their confidence n hence make them over-confident.

 

i kinda scared while i took a cab a few mths ago.. it was raining heavily n the cab was travelling at 140km/h they will only think of how much more $$$$ they can make if they travel faster n hack care the lives of their passengers...

 

Do u think they should change to a lower cc car so that they wont be able to "chiong" so easily??

 

Can i safely say that it is becos of the "Xtra CCs" that causes so many accidents??

 

should we suggest to the taxi companies to replace the current 3000cc taxis with something lower... personally i feel a 1.8 litre car is good enuff.

 

i've seen 1.5litre vios n 1.6/1.8litre Corolla Altis in Bangkok.. 1.3 or 1.6litre cabs in Malaysia... even big countries dun need such big cc cabs.. y we (singapore) need??

 

dun ask me wat i'm talking about... i also dunno wat i'm talking about here... i'm just complaining after a few incidents i've witnessed that involves taxis...

 

my dad is also a taxi driver... even he himself thinks that the Crown is too powerful....

[madman]

Bigger cc have bigger seating and loading space. Probably that's why.

[WildCard]

erm, I tot most taxis are minimum 2 litres?

Due to their diesel engine.

Anywayz, that was what my old fire-pump operating instructor told us.

[moregas]

If you follow Bangkok or Malaysia taxi standard, prepare to pay twice the current taxi fare cause these 2 country use petrol engine. Moreover, they are sedan size car and not suitable to carry big fat ass or luggage.

 

Singapore and Hong Kong uses the same type of taxi model, Toyota Crown diesel 3000cc. This model is consider super luxury class limo in Japan, only fit for company president hor, except the furnishing and engine is different la.

 

Current minimium economy size diesel engine come in 3000cc form. Those oldie 2000cc Toyota Corona is consider antique and is long due for replacemnet. If scare take the Nissan Cefiro only 2700cc, else take the Toyota Crown one, 3000cc and it's turbo diesel engine hor!

[raz]

I just feel that there really no need to have such big taxis on the road... too dangerous... anyway... if need space for luggages n big asses... they have the "london cab" anyway.. maybe i'm dun like big taxis on the road...

 

almost bang on to a citycab taxi the day before yesterday... sudden change of lane with signalling... have to jam brake to avoid it...

[william_liu]

Yeah I agree with Raz.

 

3000cc seems a waste on our Singapore roads. If they are 2000cc I think they can still hit 90km/hr easily... just take a look at some of the vans and lorries whizzing around.

 

Can save on their diesel consumption as well!

[katana777]

those killer machines r getting bigger n bigger

[Guest nE0]

Maybe let them have 3000cc taxis, but put their final drive so short that their engines are revving their balls off at 90km/h. See how long they can keep it up.

[moregas]

Originally posted by raz@Oct 15 2004, 10:33 AM

I just feel that there really no need to have such big taxis on the road... too dangerous... anyway... if need space for luggages n big asses... they have the "london cab" anyway.. maybe i'm dun like big taxis on the road...

 

almost bang on to a citycab taxi the day before yesterday... sudden change of lane with signalling... have to jam brake to avoid it...

"London Cab" is a drinker, not environment friendly and expansive to maintain, so make no economy sense compare to the well test and trialed Nissan Cedric and Toyota Crown model. Thus U see more and more taxi driver give up "London Cab".

[moregas]

Originally posted by nE0@Oct 15 2004, 12:10 PM

Maybe let them have 3000cc taxis, but put their final drive so short that their engines are revving their balls off at 90km/h. See how long they can keep it up.

FYI, there are "pressure release valve" on all the taxi diesel engine in which it limit the max power output of the taxi diesel engine, just by tighten/loosen the knot. However it indirectly increase fuel consumpion and decrease the acceleration speed, which translate to higher fuel cost and lose out in 0-100km/h fight in tight customer snatching situation. It's a known secret and thus most taxi driver will meddle this stuff to get the best fuel consumption/power/torque combination.

[RedWind]

Originally posted by raz@Oct 15 2004, 10:33 AM

I just feel that there really no need to have such big taxis on the road... too dangerous... anyway... if need space for luggages n big asses... they have the "london cab" anyway.. maybe i'm dun like big taxis on the road...

 

almost bang on to a citycab taxi the day before yesterday... sudden change of lane with signalling... have to jam brake to avoid it...

i met one that change suddenly and worse, stays on the dotted line for a while dunno for what he doing...

 

take extra precaution people

 

ride safely

[Keynes]

One of the many reasons for taxi companies to buy bigger cc taxis is the emission standard imposed by the authority. By having a more powerful engine, drivers don't need to stress the engine and thus smoke emission is less. As you may aware, all diesel vehicles registered on or after 1 Nov 2006 need to be at least Euro IV or convert to CNG (Compressed Natural Gas). Of course other reasons like comfort, stability, luxury and the fact that it is diesel driven, require bigger cc.

 

Don't ask me why diesel engine need bigger cc because I don't know, but I see many trucks with their diesel engine model of a higher cc rating compared to its petrol counterpart, because diesel engine not so responsive?? Any technocrates here can explain?

[blizzard]

But then 3000cc will be a bigger vehicle on the road. And from the way some taxi drivers drive, driving on dotted white line, swerving with very little notice, changing lanes without signalling, etc... sigh.. it'll be a more dangerous road out there for us 2-wheelers. Some taxi-drivers really dun give any thought to other road suers..... I just had the misfortune of encountering one who nearly drove me off the road after he changed lane abruptly and without signalling, even after I horned him twice. Thank god for my pillion and me, we din get whacked from behind or fall when i braked hard to prevent a collicion.

[Keynes]

I agree there are reckless taxi drivers but there are courteous and careful ones too.

 

Hey, for your case, you may lodge a complaint to the taxi company with the taxi number, time and location of the incident and the description of the driver (because 1 taxi could be driven by 1 hirer and 1 or 2 relief drivers, but from the time, the company can trace it). The point here is, if the company receives many similar complaints on this driver and he aslo has many previous bad driving records in the company, he is very likely to be warned or get sacked. The company will not want to continuously deal with the compliants on him and to pay for his increaisng insurance premium.

 

Alternatively, you may write in to complaint the case to TP, but it will take longer time, also you may be called up by TP for further investigations.

[blizzard]

I'm still deciding whether to write in or not, cos I'm not an angel on the roads as well and everyone makes mistakes, and also cos nothing serious happened except for a bruised ego. Dun wana break his rice bowl cos of it. I did notice him taking my number down tho maybe cos i let go some expletives in his face, for which i got a mumbled reply (apology?) but with an attitude face. If he decides to complain against me, well I hav a reliable witness to back me up, namely my pillion.

 

Anyway, good luck to all us riders on the road when bigger cabs come in! I might write in after all to showcase the dangers cab drivers can pose, what more with bigger cabs.

[xiaogary]

Originally posted by madman@Oct 15 2004, 03:07 AM

Bigger cc have bigger seating and loading space. Probably that's why.

3000cc is engine displacement, not space.

[Guest nE0]

Originally posted by xiaogary@Nov 6 2004, 12:48 AM

3000cc is engine displacement, not space.

3000cc taxis are bigger also ma.

 

Anyway, try riding around everyday in a 125cc bike, then try doing that on a 400cc bike. Which one is easier?

 

 

With more power, the vehicle will be easier, more relaxing to drive around, so the driver will be more alert and not so stressed. I find myself speeding and generally doing much less silly things in my 400cc bike compared to my old 150cc bike.

[MrLau]

Originally posted by nE0@Nov 6 2004, 03:15 AM

3000cc taxis are bigger also ma.

 

Anyway, try riding around everyday in a 125cc bike, then try doing that on a 400cc bike. Which one is easier?

 

 

With more power, the vehicle will be easier, more relaxing to drive around, so the driver will be more alert and not so stressed. I find myself speeding and generally doing much less silly things in my 400cc bike compared to my old 150cc bike.

Yes... why need a 1300cc (0-200km/h in 10 sec) motorcycle ? Encourage motorcyclist to speed ?

[xiaogary]

Originally posted by MrLau@Nov 6 2004, 08:05 AM

Yes... why need a 1300cc (0-200km/h in 10 sec) motorcycle ? Encourage motorcyclist to speed ?

Think u r .

[Guest nE0]

Originally posted by MrLau@Nov 6 2004, 08:05 AM

Yes... why need a 1300cc (0-200km/h in 10 sec) motorcycle ? Encourage motorcyclist to speed ?

Well, thats stereotyping.

 

You don't need a 1300cc hypersports bike to speed, anyone can achieve silly speeds on a tiny 150cc sports bike.

 

Control is in the rider's right hand or the drivers right foot, the machine doesn't speed, its the person behind the machine.

[stanboy]

Originally posted by swanchee@Oct 15 2004, 08:52 AM

If you follow Bangkok or Malaysia taxi standard, prepare to pay twice the current taxi fare cause these 2 country use petrol engine. Moreover, they are sedan size car and not suitable to carry big fat ass or luggage.

 

Singapore and Hong Kong uses the same type of taxi model, Toyota Crown diesel 3000cc. This model is consider super luxury class limo in Japan, only fit for company president hor, except the furnishing and engine is different la.

 

Current minimium economy size diesel engine come in 3000cc form. Those oldie 2000cc Toyota Corona is consider antique and is long due for replacemnet. If scare take the Nissan Cefiro only 2700cc, else take the Toyota Crown one, 3000cc and it's turbo diesel engine hor!

FWAH!!!turbo engine ah??!intercooler turbo huh?

[Guest luc1986]

wahahaha.. 1yrs down the road.. would be Inter-Cooler Turbo-Charged 5000cc Super-Car Cab equipped with NOS.. cum on la.. turbo.. is redundant on the cab lo.. except to speed n kill.. 3000cc has more den enuff power..

[paulder]

we cannot compare diesel engine and petrol engine..

 

generally, petrol are highly combustible as compared to diesel so a 1.6L petrol engine will produce much more power as compared to a 1.6L diesel engine.

 

take note the capacity is the displacement of the piston. the piston moving one cycle (up and down) is 1600 cc.

 

a 3000 cc diesel engine in a cab is not equivalent to the powerful SLK 320 though both are running on a displacement of 3L.

 

therefore it is necessary for a larger displacement in a diesel engine to produce the same power as compared to a petrol engine.

[Sols]

i thought desiel engine produces more power? hmmm

[darren_soh86]

Originally posted by paulder@Apr 9 2005, 01:06 AM

we cannot compare diesel engine and petrol engine..

 

generally, petrol are highly combustible as compared to diesel so a 1.6L petrol engine will produce much more power as compared to a 1.6L diesel engine.

 

take note the capacity is the displacement of the piston. the piston moving one cycle (up and down) is 1600 cc.

 

a 3000 cc diesel engine in a cab is not equivalent to the powerful SLK 320 though both are running on a displacement of 3L.

 

therefore it is necessary for a larger displacement in a diesel engine to produce the same power as compared to a petrol engine.

but dun u think currently the taxis are already chionging at a scary speed? look how they ram at red lites.. wo0~ sumtimes i tink my SP is gg to lose..