[Group] YAMAHA Fazer

[fir_chan]

that like the latest fashion overseas, take off everything that isnt necessary and ride the hell out of the bike..like bobber style

 

Yeah.. talk about Fender Eliminating!!

 

The whole arse was taken away!!!

 

Wonder if it will affect stability or riding....

[128Ken]

Whoa....

 

Saw this on the other Forum i usually visit for Fazer Fix....

 

Someone did this to his Fazer.... and i think it is mad.....!!! But nice... lol

 

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll198/fir_chan/Bikes/Misc/ChoppedFz1StreetFighter.jpg

 

Another View

 

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll198/fir_chan/Bikes/Misc/ChoppedFZ1.jpg

 

Gulps!!!!

 

nice meh.. i tink his pillion seat kena sawed off la..

[fir_chan]

dont worry PM give u more money 2 cover back that $200 u spent, HUAT AR!!~

 

How he give me more money??

 

I got kenna tax one leh...

 

But yeah... Huat Arrr!!!!

[fir_chan]

nice meh.. i tink his pillion seat kena sawed off la..

 

His pillion fell off.... i think he haven't realised....maybe he was taking his MotherInLaw for a ride....

 

wahhhaha....

[fir_chan]

current list for Raceshield Headlight MO:

 

1. Xgrind (GEN2 FZ1-S)

2. fir_chan / 8111 7775 / (Gen2 FZ1-N)

3. skai / 92322383 / (FZ6S 2008)

4. James / 97464874 / (VFR 800 2003)

5. Alex / 96951720 / (Gen2 FZ1-S)

6. Naked1 / 97440282 / (Gen2 FZ1-N)

7. Madcow / 98773024 / (Gen2 FZ1-S)

8. etky85 / 97496476 / (FZ6S'2005)

9. Need4speedz / 96621831 / (FZ6 S2 '08)

10. GreeKo / 98555462 / (FZ6 S2 '07)

11.

12.

 

Interested parties please PM me so I can add your nick into the MO list at advertiser's thread. Thank you.

 

So how this MO?? Got somemore people want to join or not?

 

Lai Lai lai!!!.....Xgrind still waiting for your PM.....!!!

[Need4speedz]

the tail looks ugly...other than tt its coolz...look like wall-E

[Xgrind]

Long story short, having SSBH in place of stock gives the rider a better/sensitive braking feedback (subjective to individual) and does not help in reducing braking distance lah right? I reckon most riders changed to SSBH for that purpose rather than trying to have a shorter braking distance.

 

Just my 2 cents

 

No need correction. You are right, so is Mr.Venhill explaination. By the physics of law, the final stopping all depends on the coefficient of friction (μ). In lay-man terms, products or devices that increase μ, & hence the stopping force (F=μN). where F= friction & N= Normal force acted on object

 

The method or medium (brake fluid, brake hose, brake pump etcetc) that actuates the components governing the equation, simply improves/enhance the translation of your finger input to the contact components as mentioned. Hence you "feel" better braking power, but not improvement in actual stopping distance.

 

In the case of braided hoses, they do not expand with extreme heat, this leads to less "squishiness" & finally you feel i brake better because you don't spend alot of your finger strength to to expand the hoses.

 

In case of master cylinders, a larger dia simply reduces the amount of your finger force vs is smaller one. I.E pushing a car from the rear with 4 fingers instead of using you whole palm.

 

 

You post is greatly a benefit to all. Gimmicks sell well. Just like the clear scenerio of car rear disk brakes. They don't stop provide better stopping power nor shorter braking distance than drum-brakes at all. Think you shld know why by now after enlighten'ed similarly by Mr. Venhill

[DeusExMachina]

Its very misleading to hear people claim steel brake lines offering better stopping power or better braking power. Correct me if I'm wrong, the primary factor in braking or stopping power is the distance you take to slow to a stop from a certain speed. To say that u have more stopping power is to say you can slow from 100km/k to zero is a shorter distance.

 

Last year, I had the pleasure of meeting Mr Venhill of Venhill brakelines when my MotoV group hosted him. I asked Mr Venhill a question.

 

Me: So.. Will your brake hose improve my braking distance?

Mr Venhill: If you are refering to decreasing braking distances, no. Your braking distance is determined mainly by your tyres and brake pads.

Me: So... Venhill brake hose or Hel brake hose will not reduce my braking distance.

Mr Venhill diplomatically declined to comment on Hel brake lines as it is not his product, and goes on to offer me a few points on his product's superiority over stock brake lines.

 

Nowadays, when i see a certain brand of brake lines with a poster claiming "better stopping power" or whatever, I know better that braking distances is not being reduced. This is a marketing gimmick bordering on making false claims as it misleads consumers into believing they may be getting shorter braking distances. There are some advantages to aftermarket brakelines, but like what some forumers say, u can still lock your front wheels on stock lines.

 

At least Mr Venhill was an honest and candid man. That was the impression i got of him.

 

Ya man. Everytime I hear that, I go "ah fuccking DUH?"

Braided lines reduce brake fade.

 

Stopping power depends on brake pads, and some on the brake pump though I think it affects feel more. Actually for the brake pump, I find that if you max out your span adjuster, you can get a solid one-finger stop feel too.

[DeusExMachina]

Long story short, having SSBH in place of stock gives the rider a better/sensitive braking feedback (subjective to individual) and does not help in reducing braking distance lah right? I reckon most riders changed to SSBH for that purpose rather than trying to have a shorter braking distance.

 

Just my 2 cents

 

Dey, he already said it.

 

Braided brakelines reduce fade. (not feel)

The brakepump affects your braking feel/effort. (Same way your brake lever span adjuster does)

The pad/disc determines the final braking power.

 

 

If you know how hydraulics works, then you'll get a picture of how the brakes will work. Same principle.

[128Ken]

Dey, he already said it.

 

Braided brakelines reduce fade. (not feel)

The brakepump affects your braking feel/effort. (Same way your brake lever span adjuster does)

The pad/disc determines the final braking power.

 

 

If you know how hydraulics works, then you'll get a picture of how the brakes will work. Same principle.

 

aiyoh, why u guys ride so fast. ride slower then normal brake lines oso can liao ma.. kekekkee...

[DeusExMachina]

aiyoh, why u guys ride so fast. ride slower then normal brake lines oso can liao ma.. kekekkee...

 

Oei... donch shay until like that. I still on stock ok?

 

I am slow rider. I keep within the speed limit one, OK!

 

Next year then change . I must maximize the usage of stock parts (aka... kill them first). Make my brake pads wear out... make my brake hose expand from heat and wear... then I change.

[Pplater]

R_yan_2-no lah.. not angry lah.. dunno why people always say i serious discuss discuss only..

 

at most is not happy some shop sales will mislead riders like fir_chan, usually with phrases such as "more jiak" or more bite etc. But when my current stock lines need to change i will actually consider steel braided ones, for the benefits already stated by AR2 Performance and the other riders.

 

Actually hur.. i don't have much confidence in my current brake pads. The previous owner told me he changed a average brand one. Sometimes when wet, braking to a stop still got squeak squeak squeak sound

 

I hear a lot of contradictory reccomendations leh. Some say EBC good, others say EBC will cause the brake disc to wear out very fast or the EBC pads itself wear out very fast. What you guys using man? Share share leh

[CMYRS]

i cant wait to wear out my brake pads and change them.

 

no matter how much i wash the pads, calipers, discs and blow brake dust from beneath the pads, I cant get the annoying high pitch braking noise to stop!!

 

Both front n rear.

 

ARGH!!!!

 

agt says its the metal compound in the pad that is the cause.

 

somehow, i smell buLL$hit.

[James996]

aiyoh, why u guys ride so fast. ride slower then normal brake lines oso can liao ma.. kekekkee...

 

Dun kw who from day one take bike alraedy SSBH liao hor...My 03 till now still on stock hoses...Maybe its the cost for replacement...thats why the previous owners never change..total of 12 lines..

[James996]

R_yan_2-no lah.. not angry lah.. dunno why people always say i serious discuss discuss only..

 

at most is not happy some shop sales will mislead riders like fir_chan, usually with phrases such as "more jiak" or more bite etc. But when my current stock lines need to change i will actually consider steel braided ones, for the benefits already stated by AR2 Performance and the other riders.

 

Actually hur.. i don't have much confidence in my current brake pads. The previous owner told me he changed a average brand one. Sometimes when wet, braking to a stop still got squeak squeak squeak sound

 

I hear a lot of contradictory reccomendations leh. Some say EBC good, others say EBC will cause the brake disc to wear out very fast or the EBC pads itself wear out very fast. What you guys using man? Share share leh

 

Pplater,

Yr Fz6 is pre 06,rite? 04-05 the brakes sucks,due to its only 2 pots calipers front and no dust cover removeable so always gt the squeak sounds. Only 06 did Yamaha did their works and change the calipers to 4 pots.

The best way is to change front calipers.

[Pplater]

i cant wait to wear out my brake pads and change them.

 

no matter how much i wash the pads, calipers, discs and blow brake dust from beneath the pads, I cant get the annoying high pitch braking noise to stop!!

 

Both front n rear.

 

ARGH!!!!

 

agt says its the metal compound in the pad that is the cause.

 

somehow, i smell buLL$hit.

 

what brand u want to change? reccommend leh...

[Pplater]

Pplater,

Yr Fz6 is pre 06,rite? 04-05 the brakes sucks,due to its only 2 pots calipers front and no dust cover removeable so always gt the squeak sounds. Only 06 did Yamaha did their works and change the calipers to 4 pots.

The best way is to change front calipers.

 

okies... calipers i will KIV. But intend to change pads first. Any u reccomend? As for calipers... also... any reccomendation? Mine is 04 model. Calipers and brake pump different thing right?

[Xgrind]

I also kept getting recommendations from friends to ask me to change to EBC brake pads... saying it's very good, blah blah....but same as you, read that EBC pads may wear out disc faster and stuffs like that.

 

While I never used EBC before, I tried Carbone Lorraine street brake pads in my previous bike and they are quite decent. You might wanna give it a shot.

 

 

I hear a lot of contradictory reccomendations leh. Some say EBC good, others say EBC will cause the brake disc to wear out very fast or the EBC pads itself wear out very fast. What you guys using man? Share share leh

[Xgrind]

Why 12 lines?

 

Dun kw who from day one take bike alraedy SSBH liao hor...My 03 till now still on stock hoses...Maybe its the cost for replacement...thats why the previous owners never change..total of 12 lines..

[128Ken]

Dun kw who from day one take bike alraedy SSBH liao hor...My 03 till now still on stock hoses...Maybe its the cost for replacement...thats why the previous owners never change..total of 12 lines..

 

 

the previous owner lets the new owner do the job ma..

 

CHANGE CHANGE CHANGE!!!!!

[AR2 Performance]

Do a good bleed on your brake fluid. (Caliper side & master cylinder side if you master cylinder has a bleeding valve). The main culprit to squishy feel when you are hard on the brakes, is the bleeding process.

 

I have seen many times a rider with after market cylinders & braided hoses, feels "nuah nuah" when depressed vs a stock stock in the showroom. After going back to shop to do a good bleed, problem resolved.

 

R_yan_2-no lah.. not angry lah.. dunno why people always say i serious discuss discuss only..

 

at most is not happy some shop sales will mislead riders like fir_chan, usually with phrases such as "more jiak" or more bite etc. But when my current stock lines need to change i will actually consider steel braided ones, for the benefits already stated by AR2 Performance and the other riders.

 

Actually hur.. i don't have much confidence in my current brake pads. The previous owner told me he changed a average brand one. Sometimes when wet, braking to a stop still got squeak squeak squeak sound

 

I hear a lot of contradictory reccomendations leh. Some say EBC good, others say EBC will cause the brake disc to wear out very fast or the EBC pads itself wear out very fast. What you guys using man? Share share leh

[Xgrind]

Thank you for the explanation

 

Dey, he already said it.

 

Braided brakelines reduce fade. (not feel)

The brakepump affects your braking feel/effort. (Same way your brake lever span adjuster does)

The pad/disc determines the final braking power.

 

 

If you know how hydraulics works, then you'll get a picture of how the brakes will work. Same principle.

[Pplater]

Do a good bleed on your brake fluid. (Caliper side & master cylinder side if you master cylinder has a bleeding valve). The main culprit to squishy feel when you are hard on the brakes, is the bleeding process.

 

I have seen many times a rider with after market cylinders & braided hoses, feels "nuah nuah" when depressed vs a stock stock in the showroom. After going back to shop to do a good bleed, problem resolved.

 

ok! thanks for the heads up. Anyway my brake fluid due for change also. Can't imagine 4 year never change.... will watch out for the bleeding post change of fluid. and pads.

[fir_chan]

Why 12 lines?

 

Very Fast Rider needs many many brake lines to feed to all the brakes that is needed to slow the ride in case the red lights comes up....

[fir_chan]

R_yan_2-no lah.. not angry lah.. dunno why people always say i serious discuss discuss only..

 

at most is not happy some shop sales will mislead riders like fir_chan, usually with phrases such as "more jiak" or more bite etc. But when my current stock lines need to change i will actually consider steel braided ones, for the benefits already stated by AR2 Performance and the other riders.

 

Actually hur.. i don't have much confidence in my current brake pads. The previous owner told me he changed a average brand one. Sometimes when wet, braking to a stop still got squeak squeak squeak sound

 

I hear a lot of contradictory reccomendations leh. Some say EBC good, others say EBC will cause the brake disc to wear out very fast or the EBC pads itself wear out very fast. What you guys using man? Share share leh

 

No choice leh... so gullible... :pity:

 

But learning lor... at least now ppl ask me why change.... i can say... "orrrr... so simi simi fade...simi simi not feel"

 

Alamak... slow slow... dun cuntfuse me!!!