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Honda New 400cc lineup 2013, CB400F, CB400X, CBR400R

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mechwira Newbie

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yes, thailand. for both the original 500cc as well as the 400 variant. they are not 'domestic models'; rather the export of the 400 variants is limited only to countries where a 400cc gets lower taxes than a 500cc (such as India) or countries having multi-tiered licence (such as Singapore).

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It's true: it's more fun to ride a slow bike fast than to ride a fast bike slow. Admittedly, though... It is MOST fun to ride a fast bike fast!

napalm_rapier Newbie

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Honda 400x Review from Japan:

 

http://translate.google.com.sg/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.m-bike.sakura.ne.jp/%3Fp%3D47784&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhonda%2B400x%26start%3D20%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D539

 

http://translate.google.com.sg/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://ameblo.jp/desertcafe/entry-11548598645.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhonda%2B400x%26start%3D40%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D539

 

There is a website selling a few accessories also in japan for the 400x:

http://japan.webike.net/HONDA/400X/6450/m/

napalm_rapier Newbie

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In japan, they are selling it @ 679,350 yen and ABS model @ 728,700 yen. Using http://www.xe.com, that works out to be 8,571.98 SGD and ABS @ 9,194.67 SGD..

 

Selling price in Singapore is 15.4K SGD onwards... Can anyone clarify to me why is there a huge difference even though after adding COE and registration fees?

keyxblade Newbie

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In japan, they are selling it @ 679,350 yen and ABS model @ 728,700 yen. Using http://www.xe.com, that works out to be 8,571.98 SGD and ABS @ 9,194.67 SGD..

 

Selling price in Singapore is 15.4K SGD onwards... Can anyone clarify to me why is there a huge difference even though after adding COE and registration fees?

 

bec of Singapore tax.

Nick_Lee Newbie

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In japan, they are selling it @ 679,350 yen and ABS model @ 728,700 yen. Using http://www.xe.com, that works out to be 8,571.98 SGD and ABS @ 9,194.67 SGD..

 

Selling price in Singapore is 15.4K SGD onwards... Can anyone clarify to me why is there a huge difference even though after adding COE and registration fees?

 

In Japan... They do not have to ship the bikes to Japan... In singapore... The bikes have to come by ship... In singapore, we have import tax of 20% of the original price of the bike... In singapore, we have gst and many other taxes... Lastly, we have to factor in profit margins of shops... So, if you don't want to buy buy because you think it is not worth it... Don't... It's just like a bowl of noodles in Bangkok is $1.20... In singapore, $3... Standard of living is diff...

mechwira Newbie

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In Japan... They do not have to ship the bikes to Japan... In singapore... The bikes have to come by ship... In singapore, we have import tax of 20% of the original price of the bike... In singapore, we have gst and many other taxes... Lastly, we have to factor in profit margins of shops... So, if you don't want to buy buy because you think it is not worth it... Don't... It's just like a bowl of noodles in Bangkok is $1.20... In singapore, $3... Standard of living is diff...

 

not correct. the bikes are manufactured in thailand. the shipping cost from thailand to singapore should logically be lower than from thailand to japan.

 

BUT.... yes we cannot compare prices by directly converting currency. taxes, market forces, standard of living indeed contribute to the final price tag of the bike in any given country.

 

besides, the 15k is after coe and interest. the machine price is around 13k? which means the difference is about 3k.

 

i am more interested to find out the price difference between the 400 and 500. same bikes and our taxes dont depend on cc. so any price difference is definitely a mark-up.

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It's true: it's more fun to ride a slow bike fast than to ride a fast bike slow. Admittedly, though... It is MOST fun to ride a fast bike fast!

Jehuty Newbie

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Here everything is expensive, our cost of living is high so everything is high, I can't say the same for our standard of living, we still live in a small shoebox apartment that costs as much as a 3 storey bungalow elsewhere.

 

T135 Jupiter costs 6k RM in Msia, T135 Jupiter costs 6k SGD in Singapore, that's more than twice the amount but they are profiting maybe 1k or less from the sales, if it wasn't for the COE and taxes, probably from a bike shop's need for profits.

Nick_Lee Newbie

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not correct. the bikes are manufactured in thailand. the shipping cost from thailand to singapore should logically be lower than from thailand to japan.

 

BUT.... yes we cannot compare prices by directly converting currency. taxes, market forces, standard of living indeed contribute to the final price tag of the bike in any given country.

 

besides, the 15k is after coe and interest. the machine price is around 13k? which means the difference is about 3k.

 

i am more interested to find out the price difference between the 400 and 500. same bikes and our taxes dont depend on cc. so any price difference is definitely a mark-up.

 

Not correct... Shipping these bikes to Japan would be part of their manufacturing delivery process... The cost of shipping the bike would be factored in by the manufacturer when they ship the bike... Regardless of where they are manufactured...

 

3k is profit... I guess la... I could be wrong... Or not correct... But who cares... I don't...

mechwira Newbie

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Not correct... Shipping these bikes to Japan would be part of their manufacturing delivery process... The cost of shipping the bike would be factored in by the manufacturer when they ship the bike... Regardless of where they are manufactured...

 

3k is profit... I guess la... I could be wrong... Or not correct... But who cares... I don't...

 

then your maths doesn work out.

 

is it they ship from thailand to japan first then from japan to singapore?

 

or they ship direct to singapore from thailand?

 

as long the bike comes singapore direct from thailand, the 'manufacturing delivery process' of the bike coming to singapore is still lower than japan.

 

unless you tell me they calculate the cost of shipping into japan as part of the cost despite the fact that such a shipping does not occur when importing into singapore.

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It's true: it's more fun to ride a slow bike fast than to ride a fast bike slow. Admittedly, though... It is MOST fun to ride a fast bike fast!

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This bike is parallel-imported, which means the importer would have to ship it in from Japan. If it was shipped in by the authorized distributor then it should be shipped in from the factory directly. Overheads would be in SGD, hence the difference in $ value. Furthermore, there is no economies of scale due to lack of volume hence the higher cost per unit. My 2 cents for whatever it's worth...

mechwira Newbie

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This bike is parallel-imported, which means the importer would have to ship it in from Japan. If it was shipped in by the authorized distributor then it should be shipped in from the factory directly.

 

never thought of that. thank you for the clarification.

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It's true: it's more fun to ride a slow bike fast than to ride a fast bike slow. Admittedly, though... It is MOST fun to ride a fast bike fast!

Bikeprod Newbie

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I'd be curious to know too. Prefer the ABS variant if possible.

 

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You mean crashbar additional $700

Or crashbar including box is $700?

 

ABS option, I mean.

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keyxblade Newbie

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Nahh traditional brake works for me.and the bike doesnt really go that fast I only want the crash bar and box leh bp. Does it include?

 

what does abs got to do with going fast? it is meant to prevent wheel lock, even if u travel at 30km/h u also can wheel lock if u jam brake like those newbies in driving centre. ABS is bascially a system which helps prevent wheel lock thats all, u can choose to not have it as it is costly to repair if anything goes wrong, doesnt matter your speed which u are going.

nevermine Newbie

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just wonder...so all of you here will not look/consider at kawa ninja 400R? how about 300R? hmm...because im considering about 1 of these 2 but just that they are really a bit more expensive...

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