scooter engine oil

Light_Emotion · August 6, 2013

Scooter engines are in relatively low state of tune. So as long you stick to OCI should be ok. Most 400cc single cyclinder scooters make 33-35 bhp compared to other naked or sport bikes with the same cc making 40 - 53 bhp...

kongfu · August 6, 2013

Yes u can use a 50wt oil. It might offer slightly more protection, but a good synthetic 40wt will do fine anyway. Can choose to shorten the change interval to compensate for it.

Thanks Bro!

parotae · August 6, 2013

I am a newbie who is learning 2b but I have rode overseas. why dont you use car oil? 15 - 40 are usually mineral oil and 5 - 40 are usually synthetic. 5w - 40 in your manual are usually for countries with 4 seasons. I can even get by using a 15w-40 in 0 degrees so really it wont affect in singapore.

Maybe in singapore 0w-40 and 15-40 oils got very very slight difference when startup because the 15 oil could be just a very little thicker and reving doesnt feel as fast but its ok in a very short time.I do not think it warrants buying a synthetic one unless theres an offer. Oils like delvac, which can be cheaper because cars and diesel trucks I have tried too. works good and keeps engine clean.

mobil 1 gold 0w-40 I used it for quite a while. If you like syn oil 0w-40, maybe can try that. If yours is old vehicle, have to see if the oil level drops because sometimes it will slip through the rings. older bikes may benefit from non syn oils personally and with the money saved change oil a little more often coz nothing beats clean oil.

If i have a bike now I would use car / diesel truck kind of engine oil. Available in large containers and keeps engine clean.

The information you gave is very shallow. A newbie reading your thread without researching will assume that you are correct.

What you describe about truck oil, (i have read online) are used base on the information given on the oil bottle itself meets the motorcycle minimum requirement eg. MA for clutch use or indicated with no friction modifier. If you could point us/newbie into which truck oil you recommend or can be use for our cycle we will appreciate your effort very much. Just a ''truck oil can be used'' info are of no use to us if we don't know which particular brand to use.

I myself being a newbie and want to act clever and save some money uses car oil too. Although "I feel" no harm using car oil i am not prepare to compromise the longevity of the engine and thus going to/has switch to motorcycle oil. There is a difference my friend between car oil meant for cars and motorcycle oil meant for motorcycles. Magazines have conducted lab test with different oil and analysis and 'yes' there is a difference. If you are those that change bike ever so frequently then it make no difference to the ensure the longevity of the engine.

I have been using car oil up to now and have no problem whatsoever doesn't mean i am doing the right thing.

Car engine generally run at a lower rpm (~1500rpm-3000rpm) cruising than a scooter (~4500-6000rpm). From this info alone you can see why motorcycle oil will need a better protection for the engine.

Just sharing what I feel and know.

Feel free to correct me as I am learning too.

ber · August 6, 2013

Just a ''truck oil can be used'' info are of no use to us if we don't know which particular brand to use.
.

hi

actually got mentioned, i used delvac ..

http://www.mobil.com/USA-English-LCW/heavydutyengineoils_why-mobil-delvac.aspx

parotae · August 6, 2013

hi

actually got mentioned, i used delvac ..
http://www.mobil.com/USA-English-LCW/heavydutyengineoils_why-mobil-delvac.aspx

What i meant was if you mention delvac can be used don't provide much info. Info like what makes you think so and why it can be used and where to buy if possible and why you recommend it will provide useful information than just saying which car oil or truck oil can be use.

Oils like delvac, which can be cheaper because cars and diesel trucks I have tried too. works good and keeps engine clean.

Works good and clean?

Edited August 6, 2013 by parotae

naim · August 6, 2013

Actually bro car or truck oil can be used. Yes scooter engines rev higher and probably will put the oil through more abuse, but rmb our OCI are much shorter. That should be enough to compensate for that.

I have used delvac before and its a really good oil. But the viscosity at 40wt is on the thicker side, making my fuel consumption increase because most of my local rides consists of short distances. For touring, it was really smooth and being a HDEO, its extremely resilient and can withstand long high speed runs easily.

parotae · August 6, 2013

Actually bro car or truck oil can be used. Yes scooter engines rev higher and probably will put the oil through more abuse, but rmb our OCI are much shorter. That should be enough to compensate for that.

I have used delvac before and its a really good oil. But the viscosity at 40wt is on the thicker side, making my fuel consumption increase because most of my local rides consists of short distances. For touring, it was really smooth and being a HDEO, its extremely resilient and can withstand long high speed runs easily.

Thanks naim for the in dept info. I have read that Goldwinger uses diesel oil too and they found it to be very good and will continue to use the oil.

Problem is not the oil, it's because i need to know why a certain oil are recommended and can be used. Not this oil can use so i use it, delvac can be use so i use it. If people ask me why use diesel oil for scooter/motorcycle then i tell them a guy post on internet that it can be use on his so i use it is not a very good answer.

The reason blackant started this thread is because he wanted to use the recommended oil that the user manual recommends rather than any random suggestion is to avoid misinformation.

So in order to use oil that can be use outside the manufacturer's recommendation one needs to understand and know accurate information.

I feel that there are others who are very knowledgeable but uses few words to share and withholding important info that they feel maybe too much jargon for others to understand.

Edited August 6, 2013 by parotae

parotae · August 6, 2013

Thanks to ber, now I know another oil to use! Diesel oil here I come muah ha ha ha ha!

ber · August 6, 2013

Actually bro car or truck oil can be used. Yes scooter engines rev higher and probably will put the oil through more abuse, but rmb our OCI are much shorter. That should be enough to compensate for that.

I have used delvac before and its a really good oil. But the viscosity at 40wt is on the thicker side, making my fuel consumption increase because most of my local rides consists of short distances. For touring, it was really smooth and being a HDEO, its extremely resilient and can withstand long high speed runs easily.

try the 10w - 30 if you can get. delvac too. may save petrol + feels more responsive to me. I in fact prefer 30 to 40. thinner less resistance.

Edited August 6, 2013 by ber

ber · August 6, 2013

Thanks to ber, now I know another oil to use! Diesel oil here I come muah ha ha ha ha!

hi please share what oil you are using currently. May try too. delvac if you can get or if you change oil yourself, get the 18L drum one. should be cheaper and its usually very easily done with a 17 wrench.

Isopropyl · August 6, 2013

@parotae

What you describe about truck oil, (i have read online) are used base on the information given on the oil bottle itself meets the motorcycle minimum requirement eg. MA for clutch use or indicated with no friction modifier.

JASO motorcycle standard is not a minimum requirement for motorcycle oil. It is THE requirement. can you please point out other motorcycle oil specification for us?

There is a difference my friend between car oil meant for cars and motorcycle oil meant for motorcycles. Magazines have conducted lab test with different oil and analysis and 'yes' there is a difference. If you are those that change bike ever so frequently then it make no difference to the ensure the longevity of the engine.

can you please point out the differences between cars and motorcycles oil please? ZDDP? TBN? HTHS? anti-foaming additives? detergent?

Car engine generally run at a lower rpm (~1500rpm-3000rpm) cruising than a scooter (~4500-6000rpm). From this info alone you can see why motorcycle oil will need a better protection for the engine.

i will like to know what is in the motorcycle oil that make it so special that it can help an engine survive high rpm while other oil can't. maybe instead of doubting other oil, one should question why motorcycle specific oil is so capable isn't it? hey, you are paying a premium for motorcycle oil after all!!! if you going to pay more for something special no matter what is it, isn't it a common sense to question them instead of turning your doubt to other lesser cost products? so when someone ask you why HDEO is suitable for motorcycle usage, shouldn't you be asking what make motorcycle specific oil special instead since you are paying a premium? i just find it doesn't make sense people other turning it the other way? maybe that me.

Light_Emotion · August 6, 2013

Why do we used HEDO? Cos it shared some of the additive with motorcycle oil. Read about it, rev is last thing that will affect the oil if you keep within recommended OCI.

Is more about the shearing of oil in gears as bikes shared its transmission with engine. HEDO have additives to resist this and does not affect the wet clutch as well. Just because motorcycle oil is more ex then it is good. If any mech tells me, bike rev higher than car...I would say smile and say I want my engine spoil so you can overhaul. Lol. Use shell Rx3 before, cheap and good.

Edit from Bob is oil guy. Read more about it.

The function of additives can be summarized as:

Protect metal surfaces (rings, bearings, gears, etc.)
Extend the range of lubricant applicability
Extend lubricant life

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[TH=class: column-3]Typical Compounds[/TH]

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[TR=class: row-7 odd]

[TH=class: column-1 colspan-4, colspan: 4][/TH]

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[TD=class: column-1]Antiwear and EP Agent[/TD]

[TD=class: column-2]Reduce friction and wear and prevent scoring and seizure[/TD]

[TD=class: column-3]Zinc dithiophosphates, organic phosphates, acid phosphates, organic sulfur and chlorine compounds, sulfurized fats, sulfides and disulfides[/TD]

[TD=class: column-4]Chemical reaction with metal surface to form a film with lower shear strength than the metal, thereby preventing metal-to-metal contact[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=class: row-3 odd]

[TD=class: column-1]Corrosion and Rust Inhibitor[/TD]

[TD=class: column-2]Prevent corrosion and rusting of metal parts in contact with the lubricant[/TD]

[TD=class: column-3]Zinc dithiophosphates, metal phenolates, basic metal sulfonates, fatty acids and amines[/TD]

[TD=class: column-4]Preferential adsorption of polar constituent on metal surface to provide protective film, or neutralize corrosive acids[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=class: row-4 even]

[TD=class: column-1]Detergent[/TD]

[TD=class: column-2]Keep surfaces free of deposits[/TD]

[TD=class: column-3]Metallo-organic compounds of sodium, calcium and magnesium phenolates, phosphonates and sulfonates[/TD]

[TD=class: column-4]Chemical reaction with sludge and varnish precursors to neutralize them and keep them soluble[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=class: row-5 odd]

[TD=class: column-1]Dispersant[/TD]

[TD=class: column-2]Keep insoluble contaminants dispersed in the lubricant[/TD]

[TD=class: column-3]Alkylsuccinimides, alkylsuccinic esters, and mannich reaction products[/TD]

[TD=class: column-4]Contaminants are bonded by polar attraction to dispersant molecules, prevented from agglomerating and kept in suspension due to solubility of dispersant[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=class: row-6 even]

[TD=class: column-1]Friction Modifier[/TD]

[TD=class: column-2]Alter coefficient of friction[/TD]

[TD=class: column-3]Organic fatty acids and amides, lard oil, high molecular weight organic phosphorus and phosphoric acid esters[/TD]

[TD=class: column-4]Preferential adsorption of surface-active materials[/TD]

[/TR]

[/TABLE]

Surface Protection Additives

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[TH=class: column-1]Additive Type[/TH]

[TH=class: column-2]Purpose[/TH]

[TH=class: column-3]Typical Compounds[/TH]

[TH=class: column-4]Functions[/TH]

[/TR]

[TR=class: row-5 odd]

[TH=class: column-1 colspan-4, colspan: 4][/TH]

[/TR]

[TR=class: row-2 even]

[TD=class: column-1]Pour Point Depressant[/TD]

[TD=class: column-2]Enable lubricant to flow at low temperatures[/TD]

[TD=class: column-3]Alkylated naphthalene and phenolic polymers, polymethacrylates, maleate/fumerate copolymer esters[/TD]

[TD=class: column-4]Modify wax crystal formation to reduce interlocking[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=class: row-3 odd]

[TD=class: column-1]Seal Swell Agent [/TD]

[TD=class: column-2]Swell elastomeric seals[/TD]

[TD=class: column-3]Organic phosphates and aromatic hydrocarbons[/TD]

[TD=class: column-4]Chemical reaction with elastomer to cause slight swell[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=class: row-4 even]

[TD=class: column-1]Viscosity Modifier[/TD]

[TD=class: column-2]Reduce the rate of viscosity change with temperature[/TD]

[TD=class: column-3]Polymers and copolymers of olefins, methacrylates, dienes or alkylated styrenes[/TD]

[TD=class: column-4]Polymers expand with increasing temperature to counteract oil thinning[/TD]

[/TR]

[/TABLE]

Performance Additives

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[TH=class: column-2]Purpose[/TH]

[TH=class: column-3]Typical Compounds[/TH]

[TH=class: column-4]Functions[/TH]

[/TR]

[TR=class: row-5 odd]

[TH=class: column-1 colspan-4, colspan: 4][/TH]

[/TR]

[TR=class: row-2 even]

[TD=class: column-1]Antifoamant[/TD]

[TD=class: column-2]Prevent lubricant from forming a persistent foam[/TD]

[TD=class: column-3]Silicone polymers, organic copolymers[/TD]

[TD=class: column-4]Reduces surface tension to speed collapse of foam[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=class: row-3 odd]

[TD=class: column-1]Antioxidant[/TD]

[TD=class: column-2]Retard oxidative decomposition[/TD]

[TD=class: column-3]Zinc dithiophosphates, hindered phenols, aromatic amines, sulfurized phenols[/TD]

[TD=class: column-4]Decompose peroxides and terminate free-radical reactions[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=class: row-4 even]

[TD=class: column-1]Metal Deactivator[/TD]

[TD=class: column-2]Reduce catalytic effect of metals on oxidation rate[/TD]

[TD=class: column-3]Organic complexes containing nitrogen or sulfur, amines, sulfides and phosphites[/TD]

[TD=class: column-4]Form inactive film on metal surfaces by complexing with metallic ions[/TD]

[/TR]

[/TABLE]

Light_Emotion · August 6, 2013

Quite an informative website. If you have more money just pay more ex motorcycle oil. Some would experience it and use alternative. I don think is because of cheaper oil, but more of I am not a fool and pay for very expensive oil. Sponsorship cost money in races, where do they come from??? Of course I am not saying branded high end products are not good. However, based on our intended uses, some alternative are more than enough or even better.

Even people use it for their supersport/superbikes which break 200 bhp per litre and we are worried it would kills our low powered engine?

Edited August 6, 2013 by Light_Emotion

parotae · August 6, 2013

@parotae

JASO motorcycle standard is not a minimum requirement for motorcycle oil. It is THE requirement. can you please point out other motorcycle oil specification for us?

Thank you for clarifying that JASO motorcycle standard is not a minimum requirement for motorcycle oil and that it is a requirement. I can't point out other motorcycle oil specification.

can you please point out the differences between cars and motorcycles oil please? ZDDP? TBN? HTHS? anti-foaming additives? detergent?

It seems that your knowledge far exceeded what i know. Base on what you describe, I know nothing.

i will like to know what is in the motorcycle oil that make it so special that it can help an engine survive high rpm while other oil can't. maybe instead of doubting other oil, one should question why motorcycle specific oil is so capable isn't it?

I don't know, I read what reliable sites provide. If I have enough knowledge like you perhaps I will question them.

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/AskMobil/Differences_Between_Car_and_Motorcycle_Oil.aspx

Quote:

"The second area of concern for motorcycle engine oils is that they tend to shear (breakdown viscosity) more quickly than a typical passenger car. Mobil 1 motorcycle oils are designed to provide exceptional protection against viscosity loss."

hey, you are paying a premium for motorcycle oil after all!!! if you going to pay more for something special no matter what is it, isn't it a common sense to question them instead of turning your doubt to other lesser cost products? so when someone ask you why HDEO is suitable for motorcycle usage, shouldn't you be asking what make motorcycle specific oil special instead since you are paying a premium? i just find it doesn't make sense people other turning it the other way? maybe that me.

I know nuts about the jargon and I am depending on people like you to give an accurate answers that I don't get. Fair enough that you don't spoon feed us but in situation like this I am really thankful that you took the time to question me questions you know damn well I can't answers and leave me looking out for answers that need more then just answering.

Moral of the story is, I can't question something I don't understand.

I may feel motorcycle oil are better in the sense that they are made specifically for motorcycle rather than superior to car oil. If any reader here care to google car oil vs motorcycle oil, i believe most article would prove that there is a difference.

If you feel that car oil are just as good and that consumer should not pay a premium for motorcycle oil that's overrated shouldn't you provide us information as how it is so and that oil company are just taking our hard earn cash instead?

I guess there are debate on this issue between Car oil Vs Motorcycle oil all over the internet. Everyone have their personal views and it seems like nobody can come to an agreement on it.

I am very happy that I found my answers after many years of using motor oil through @naim and I am very happy that I share whatever I know knowing that there will be a negative outcome with the wrong info shared. Please excuse my lack of knowledge and after all this I can and will give an accurate sharing of knowledge.

Cheers!

parotae · August 6, 2013

@Light_Emotion

Thanks for the great info, so much jargon to read up and update.

If only it's as easy as eating jargung (Corn in Malay) lol!

http://s5.favim.com/orig/51/cute-animal-eating-corn-Favim.com-470158.jpg

parotae · August 6, 2013

Why do we used HEDO? Cos it shared some of the additive with motorcycle oil. Read about it, rev is last thing that will affect the oil if you keep within recommended OCI.
Is more about the shearing of oil in gears as bikes shared its transmission with engine. HEDO have additives to resist this and does not affect the wet clutch as well. Just because motorcycle oil is more ex then it is good. If any mech tells me, bike rev higher than car...I would say smile and say I want my engine spoil so you can overhaul. Lol. Use shell Rx3 before, cheap and good.

Edit from Bob is oil guy. Read more about it.
The function of additives can be summarized as:

Protect metal surfaces (rings, bearings, gears, etc.)

Extend the range of lubricant applicability

Extend lubricant life

[TABLE=class: wp-table-reloaded wp-table-reloaded-id-20]
[TR=class: row-1 odd]
[TH=class: column-1]Additive Type[/TH]
[TH=class: column-2]Purpose[/TH]
[TH=class: column-3]Typical Compounds[/TH]
[TH=class: column-4]Functions[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR=class: row-7 odd]
[TH=class: column-1 colspan-4, colspan: 4][/TH]
[/TR]
[TR=class: row-2 even]
[TD=class: column-1]Antiwear and EP Agent[/TD]
[TD=class: column-2]Reduce friction and wear and prevent scoring and seizure[/TD]
[TD=class: column-3]Zinc dithiophosphates, organic phosphates, acid phosphates, organic sulfur and chlorine compounds, sulfurized fats, sulfides and disulfides[/TD]
[TD=class: column-4]Chemical reaction with metal surface to form a film with lower shear strength than the metal, thereby preventing metal-to-metal contact[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR=class: row-3 odd]
[TD=class: column-1]Corrosion and Rust Inhibitor[/TD]
[TD=class: column-2]Prevent corrosion and rusting of metal parts in contact with the lubricant[/TD]
[TD=class: column-3]Zinc dithiophosphates, metal phenolates, basic metal sulfonates, fatty acids and amines[/TD]
[TD=class: column-4]Preferential adsorption of polar constituent on metal surface to provide protective film, or neutralize corrosive acids[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR=class: row-4 even]
[TD=class: column-1]Detergent[/TD]
[TD=class: column-2]Keep surfaces free of deposits[/TD]
[TD=class: column-3]Metallo-organic compounds of sodium, calcium and magnesium phenolates, phosphonates and sulfonates[/TD]
[TD=class: column-4]Chemical reaction with sludge and varnish precursors to neutralize them and keep them soluble[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR=class: row-5 odd]
[TD=class: column-1]Dispersant[/TD]
[TD=class: column-2]Keep insoluble contaminants dispersed in the lubricant[/TD]
[TD=class: column-3]Alkylsuccinimides, alkylsuccinic esters, and mannich reaction products[/TD]
[TD=class: column-4]Contaminants are bonded by polar attraction to dispersant molecules, prevented from agglomerating and kept in suspension due to solubility of dispersant[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR=class: row-6 even]
[TD=class: column-1]Friction Modifier[/TD]
[TD=class: column-2]Alter coefficient of friction[/TD]
[TD=class: column-3]Organic fatty acids and amides, lard oil, high molecular weight organic phosphorus and phosphoric acid esters[/TD]
[TD=class: column-4]Preferential adsorption of surface-active materials[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Surface Protection Additives

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[TR=class: row-1 odd]
[TH=class: column-1]Additive Type[/TH]
[TH=class: column-2]Purpose[/TH]
[TH=class: column-3]Typical Compounds[/TH]
[TH=class: column-4]Functions[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR=class: row-5 odd]
[TH=class: column-1 colspan-4, colspan: 4][/TH]
[/TR]
[TR=class: row-2 even]
[TD=class: column-1]Pour Point Depressant[/TD]
[TD=class: column-2]Enable lubricant to flow at low temperatures[/TD]
[TD=class: column-3]Alkylated naphthalene and phenolic polymers, polymethacrylates, maleate/fumerate copolymer esters[/TD]
[TD=class: column-4]Modify wax crystal formation to reduce interlocking[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR=class: row-3 odd]
[TD=class: column-1]Seal Swell Agent [/TD]
[TD=class: column-2]Swell elastomeric seals[/TD]
[TD=class: column-3]Organic phosphates and aromatic hydrocarbons[/TD]
[TD=class: column-4]Chemical reaction with elastomer to cause slight swell[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR=class: row-4 even]
[TD=class: column-1]Viscosity Modifier[/TD]
[TD=class: column-2]Reduce the rate of viscosity change with temperature[/TD]
[TD=class: column-3]Polymers and copolymers of olefins, methacrylates, dienes or alkylated styrenes[/TD]
[TD=class: column-4]Polymers expand with increasing temperature to counteract oil thinning[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Performance Additives

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[TR=class: row-1 odd]
[TH=class: column-1]Additive Type[/TH]
[TH=class: column-2]Purpose[/TH]
[TH=class: column-3]Typical Compounds[/TH]
[TH=class: column-4]Functions[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR=class: row-5 odd]
[TH=class: column-1 colspan-4, colspan: 4][/TH]
[/TR]
[TR=class: row-2 even]
[TD=class: column-1]Antifoamant[/TD]
[TD=class: column-2]Prevent lubricant from forming a persistent foam[/TD]
[TD=class: column-3]Silicone polymers, organic copolymers[/TD]
[TD=class: column-4]Reduces surface tension to speed collapse of foam[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR=class: row-3 odd]
[TD=class: column-1]Antioxidant[/TD]
[TD=class: column-2]Retard oxidative decomposition[/TD]
[TD=class: column-3]Zinc dithiophosphates, hindered phenols, aromatic amines, sulfurized phenols[/TD]
[TD=class: column-4]Decompose peroxides and terminate free-radical reactions[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR=class: row-4 even]
[TD=class: column-1]Metal Deactivator[/TD]
[TD=class: column-2]Reduce catalytic effect of metals on oxidation rate[/TD]
[TD=class: column-3]Organic complexes containing nitrogen or sulfur, amines, sulfides and phosphites[/TD]
[TD=class: column-4]Form inactive film on metal surfaces by complexing with metallic ions[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

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Light_Emotion · August 7, 2013

@Light_Emotion

Thanks for the great info, so much jargon to read up and update.

If only it's as easy as eating jargung (Corn in Malay) lol!

http://s5.favim.com/orig/51/cute-animal-eating-corn-Favim.com-470158.jpg

Sharing is caring mah...

naim · August 7, 2013

just dropped by autobacs and i saw one of the best HDEO: Mobil Turbo Diesel 5W40! but it was over $100 for a 4L can, but i rmb mxtradings selling it cheaper. this thing is a legend.

drifting_mp3 · August 12, 2013

Seems like running regular car engine oil is possible in scooters?

Can anyone advise any reasonably priced motor shop in the east that allows you to bring your own oil for oil change?

naim · August 12, 2013

Seems like running regular car engine oil is possible in scooters?

Can anyone advise any reasonably priced motor shop in the east that allows you to bring your own oil for oil change?

yes its possible. it wont cause any problems, but whether is it better or worse than "specially for scooter" engine oil will remain a debate.

why not watch them do it once, and then DIY the next time. most scooters wont be that hard to work on.

blackant · August 12, 2013

Just went to wing yap, they only got normal motorcycle oil, and not the scooter oil.

So hard to find a 5w40 fully synthetic engine oil just for scooter locally.

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drifting_mp3 · August 12, 2013

yes its possible. it wont cause any problems, but whether is it better or worse than "specially for scooter" engine oil will remain a debate.

why not watch them do it once, and then DIY the next time. most scooters wont be that hard to work on.

Actually it is indeed not too difficult, but problem is disposal of oil and buying of the oil filter. That is why thought of just bring own oil to a workshop.

If really car engine oil is fine, then the all scooter owners can consider carlube triple R fully synthetic engine oil being sold at ntuc. Current promo only $22.40 for 5 liters 5-40w. Assuming 1 liter per oil change, it will cost less than $5 per change.

Any idea where which stockist can get oil filter for x9/vespa?

naim · August 12, 2013

Yes it should be fine. But keep ur OCI short, especially if ur oil capacity is 1L. I guess u just hv to ask ard the shops to check hw much they charge for labour.

drifting_mp3 · August 12, 2013

Yes it should be fine. But keep ur OCI short, especially if ur oil capacity is 1L. I guess u just hv to ask ard the shops to check hw much they charge for labour.

Thanks...any idea on which stockie sells oil filter for piaggio?

Or any recommended shop for svc in the east?

Mark Yeow · August 12, 2013

Thanks...any idea on which stockie sells oil filter for piaggio?

Or any recommended shop for svc in the east?

you can look for me!

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