Self Spray

[forum_user]

Recently resprayed my 125Z with the help of a few friends. I used Nippon Pylox spray paints, and the results were excellent.

 

Used #309 Sunrise Yellow, Black and lacquer. Total about 10 cans in all for 2 coats of yellow, 2 coats of lacquer, 2 coats of black (on the black parts lah!)...

 

You gotta be patient and must do the work in the daytime, when it's hot and sunny. Don't try to spray the bike at night, the paint will look cloudy.

 

I spent a lot of time sanding down the parts with sandpaper, from grades 400 all the way to 1000. Took me and friends about 3 days in all.

 

IMO this kind of project is really interesting to do. You get to be with your bike more, and when you see it taking the correct colour scheme with you hard work you sayang your bike even more!

 

Take a look at the pics below, this is the spraying process. Full bike pics will be posted soon...

 

 

 

not bad for spraycan.

[ultimax]

Originally posted by züblin@Apr 3 2005, 10:34 AM

anyways instead of sanding izit possible to strip off the paint with paint stripper instead? less work and then still leaves the surface smooth...just wondering...

 

Yes you can, but only on metal parts. Paint stripper can harm plastic. Also, you'll have to prime the surface again.

[desewer]

exactly. paint remover is bad for plastic parts e.g. 125Z fairings.

 

but i think metal should be ok. dont forget to prime the parts properly.

[d0n]

hm..somehow im more interested to know the effects of having DIY spray paintwork on the bike overtime lehz....

if cracks show up...every 1yr or so have to do respray = tedious

[ultimax]

Originally posted by d0n^@Apr 3 2005, 01:15 PM

hm..somehow im more interested to know the effects of having DIY spray paintwork on the bike overtime lehz....

if cracks show up...every 1yr or so have to do respray = tedious

well think of this way

 

DIY Spray = $30

Job done at a shop (single-colour) = ~$300

 

You get what you pay for

[desewer]

well, i respray myself because my original paintwork was badly oxidised. also, the price difference was a determining factor.

 

no point getting a 300-dollar paint job when u r not riding to show off?

[ambasnakeman]

its worth it if u r not gonna keep the bike for long

[forum_user]

ermm correct me if im wrong...a bad paintjob will it affect a bike's resale value?

 

[SPMinG]

wad about rims?? any1 tried to spray your rims before??

[desewer]

Originally posted by SP[MinG

,Apr 3 2005, 06:19 PM]wad about rims?? any1 tried to spray your rims before??

Basically, whatever it is that you're trying to spray, you must ensure a clean and dry surface. This includes at least rubbing down the SANDED surface with turpentine to remove any oil residues from your fingers.

 

For rims, it is a part that moves all the time (except when the bike is parked, DUH). However, I feel this has no bearing on the type of paint you can use. Spray paint, airbrush, also can, but the tricky part is painting the insides of the spokes.

 

You need to spray uniformly across all areas. This is best done with an airbrush. A paint can will be cumbersome to use in those hard-to-reach areas.

[ultimax]

Originally posted by desewer@Apr 3 2005, 07:36 PM

This includes at least rubbing down the SANDED surface with turpentine to remove any oil residues from your fingers.

Yes this is a crucial step. You have to make sure the surface is free of contaminants which may hinder the adhesion of the paint to it. However, I suggest you use rubbing alcohol instead of turpentine. Turpentine is an oil which will form a barrier between the paint and the surface, resulting in a poor bond. Rubbing alcohol, on the other hand, evaporates quickly, leaving little, if any at all, residue.

 

Rubbing alcohol can be purchased for abt $1 or $2 at any pharmacy.

[ozzarhomb]

Originally posted by DREAM_MACHINE@Apr 1 2005, 01:55 AM

i prefer PYLOX sprays rather then RJ..yup,the green is all using stikers..i sand my tank,sprayed it,let dry for a few days,sand it again,sprayed it n lacquer it during v.hot sun..

hey so where can i get those big white stickers also?

 

can they stretch a bit wan? i wan to cover my tank until the whole thing white leh. possible?

[ozzarhomb]

Originally posted by desewer@Apr 3 2005, 07:36 PM

For rims, it is a part that moves all the time (except when the bike is parked, DUH). However, I feel this has no bearing on the type of paint you can use. Spray paint, airbrush, also can, but the tricky part is painting the insides of the spokes.

 

You need to spray uniformly across all areas. This is best done with an airbrush. A paint can will be cumbersome to use in those hard-to-reach areas.

how about using those paintbrush to paint rims?

 

so is it possible not to remove the wheel and paint? cuz i have no idea and also no confidence of taking off the wheel and tyre to spray paint leh.

[imported_DREAM_MACHINE]

Originally posted by ozzarhomb@Apr 5 2005, 09:20 PM

hey so where can i get those big white stickers also?

 

can they stretch a bit wan? i wan to cover my tank until the whole thing white leh. possible?

well..as for the tank..even me cant do it..not pro enough..i sprayed my tank..coz a lot of rounded sided..

[d0n]

Originally posted by ozzarhomb@Apr 5 2005, 09:29 PM

how about using those paintbrush to paint rims?

 

so is it possible not to remove the wheel and paint? cuz i have no idea and also no confidence of taking off the wheel and tyre to spray paint leh.

paintbrush will leave behind the paintstrokes

so depending on whether u mind or dont mind the paintstrokes lor

 

anyway since u so unconfident of yr skills...then i suggest u get something else to experiment on 1st rather than u straight away jump to spray the rims

 

another difficulty i think spraying rims would have is the area where the tyre and the rim merges together

u need to really do a gd job taping up the tyres to prevent any paint frm getting onto them...or else it's quite troublesome having to remove paint from the small areas that u dont wan to paint

[ultimax]

Originally posted by d0n^@Apr 6 2005, 03:00 PM

u need to really do a gd job taping up the tyres to prevent any paint frm getting onto them...or else it's quite troublesome having to remove paint from the small areas that u dont wan to paint

applying a layer of grease to these small areas you don't want painted should work too.

[ozzarhomb]

i'm riding SP so i think removing the wheel shouldn't be too hard but the problem is fixing the wheel back, need to have torque wrench right?

if not cannot tighten properly the bolts properly later i ride halfway the wheel drop out sia!

 

if really liddat maybe i should really try using paintbrush liao, save me the trouble of taking out the wheel ba.

thanks for all the responses!

[desewer]

Pics of my re-sprayed bike. Comments pls!

 

http://home.pacific.net.sg/~nazironz/IMG_1825.jpg

 

http://home.pacific.net.sg/~nazironz/IMG_1826.jpg

 

http://home.pacific.net.sg/~nazironz/IMG_1827.jpg

 

http://home.pacific.net.sg/~nazironz/IMG_1828.jpg

 

http://home.pacific.net.sg/~nazironz/IMG_1829.jpg

 

http://home.pacific.net.sg/~nazironz/IMG_1830.jpg

 

http://home.pacific.net.sg/~nazironz/IMG_1831.jpg

 

http://home.pacific.net.sg/~nazironz/IMG_1832.jpg

 

http://home.pacific.net.sg/~nazironz/IMG_1833.jpg

[desewer]

By the way, photos were taken with an EOS-20D

 

[desewer]

High resolution @ ISO 400.

 

http://home.pacific.net.sg/~nazironz/IMG_1830_orig.jpg

[züblin]

nice, whats the brand of finish u use? looks glossy

i lacquer my bike also not so shiny...izit i spray too thin/few layer?

[LoxXxA]

[ozzarhomb]

wah seh nice nice.

[d0n]

Originally posted by ultimax@Apr 6 2005, 05:49 PM

applying a layer of grease to these small areas you don't want painted should work too.

huh?

grease for other parts maybe bah...but for tyres better not bahz

anyway this method sounds new to me...so after applying grease and spraying over the parts...isnt it quite tough to remove the grease? use degreaser?

[desewer]

Originally posted by züblin@Apr 7 2005, 11:23 AM

nice, whats the brand of finish u use? looks glossy

i lacquer my bike also not so shiny...izit i spray too thin/few layer?

I use ONLY Pylox paints and lacquers. (machiam advertisement siah)

 

2 coats of sunrise yellow and 2 coats of lacquer on all surfaces. ONLY SPRAY LACQUER IN THE SUNSHINE!!! I can't stress this enough. If you don't, chances are you'll get a cloudy finish.

 

I prime the front side fairings with one coat of white first, cos bottom layer was black (Old spraycoat lah).