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Originally posted by sensible_x8@Oct 26 2006, 12:18 AM

Bro, if my batt has gone flat, wouldn't there be no headlights?

Not totally flat, but not enough voltage to start up. Maybe you wanna use multi-meter to test the voltage when switch on.

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Originally posted by CCK@Oct 26 2006, 12:22 AM

Not totally flat, but not enough voltage to start up. Maybe you wanna use multi-meter to test the voltage when switch on.

thanks bro!

 

will get my yap to check on the bike tml..

 

does installing the headlight switch really helps to "save" my batt?

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Originally posted by sensible_x8@Oct 26 2006, 12:27 AM

thanks bro!

 

will get my yap to check on the bike tml..

 

does installing the headlight switch really helps to "save" my batt?

So you mean your bike now at PSC :confused:

 

If you do not have the headlight switch, remember to start up imediately when you switch on. If not, dun turn on the ign. first :smile:

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Originally posted by sensible_x8@Oct 25 2006, 11:38 PM

Hi guys,

 

Couldn't start my bike today after work..

 

there is headlight but i jus can't start the engine..

 

Could it be the spark plug problem or idling one? :confused: :cry:

Sorry to hear abt tat bro, hope the info i gave you over th sms helps. If I'm not mistaken brownkai ever faced this prob before too. I remembered he sms me over this issue too. :confused:

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Originally posted by sensible_x8@Oct 26 2006, 12:27 AM

thanks bro!

 

will get my yap to check on the bike tml..

 

does installing the headlight switch really helps to "save" my batt?

Yes...headlight switch is very important....

 

I try to start my bike till the whole batt die off...

 

after that incident i get my head light switch fix... dun play play...

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Originally posted by Brownkai@Oct 26 2006, 11:44 AM

Yes...headlight switch is very important....

 

I try to start my bike till the whole batt die off...

 

after that incident i get my head light switch fix... dun play play...

All the way, bro!

 

So what was your diagnosis for your bike that time?

 

Batt voltage not high enough?

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bros,

 

i have never ride my bike such a long distance to KL (350km++) before...

 

So i'm abit worried if our x8 would be able to go such a long distance in one day.

 

Will the wind be a major factor? do we need to break every hour.... etc??

 

Some more my gf will be with me too.. so abit concerned.

 

Any preparations beforehand?

 

Those bros out here who have been to long journeys before can share your experiences with me? :confused:

 

Appreciate your time..

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hi sensible, i ever tried helping my friend start his bike with this scenario as well. There is head light but also cannot crank. and in the end i bring down the jump start cable and started my engine and than tried to jump start his bike using my bike since it is running and it works.

 

Like what others have mentioned the battery still have voltage however because the headlights were turn on therefore before you can crank it, the voltage were drawn by the headlights already.this is where the headlight switch is useful

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Hi Guys!

 

Need some advice here, my X8 scoot just went for the 1000km servicing, for the past 2 days, I noticed my coolant temperature indicator going beyond the middle level and almost touching the red area before going back to mid level again. I previously didn't notice it as the needle mostly pointed at the mid-level almost constantly. But now it just fluctuates between the mid point and just before the red block area when I'm riding. I understand that the fan will kick in to bring down the temperature when it goes too high, but now the indicator needle seems to be "inching" towards the red area more and more before jumping back to the mid-level again.

 

I just want to know whether anyone has experienced this before and whether it is normal?

 

Thanks in advance!

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Originally posted by sigg4@Oct 26 2006, 04:14 PM

hi sensible, i ever tried helping my friend start his bike with this scenario as well. There is head light but also cannot crank. and in the end i bring down the jump start cable and started my engine and than tried to jump start his bike using my bike since it is running and it works.

 

Like what others have mentioned the battery still have voltage however because the headlights were turn on therefore before you can crank it, the voltage were drawn by the headlights already.this is where the headlight switch is useful

hi bro,

 

i'll be fixing my switch soon.

Mr Yap said that the voltage from batt is too weak to start my bike. Thus, he'll need to check on my batt charging system and the batt. Its either one of these components which are at fault.

 

He'll charge my batt overnight as its very weak. He mentioned that my voltage is about 12.0V , which is not enough to start the engine.

Will collect bike tml.

 

Still under warranty so the charging system is free but i would have to pay for the batt.. :mad:

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Originally posted by weeliano@Oct 26 2006, 09:18 PM

Hi Guys!

 

Need some advice here, my X8 scoot just went for the 1000km servicing, for the past 2 days, I noticed my coolant temperature indicator going beyond the middle level and almost touching the red area before going back to mid level again. I previously didn't notice it as the needle mostly pointed at the mid-level almost constantly. But now it just fluctuates between the mid point and just before the red block area when I'm riding. I understand that the fan will kick in to bring down the temperature when it goes too high, but now the indicator needle seems to be "inching" towards the red area more and more before jumping back to the mid-level again.

 

I just want to know whether anyone has experienced this before and whether it is normal?

 

Thanks in advance!

Weelian

Hi

 

i did experienced this. Should be normal.

Never think much abt this though.. :thumb:

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Originally posted by weeliano@Oct 26 2006, 09:18 PM

Hi Guys!

 

Need some advice here, my X8 scoot just went for the 1000km servicing, for the past 2 days, I noticed my coolant temperature indicator going beyond the middle level and almost touching the red area before going back to mid level again. I previously didn't notice it as the needle mostly pointed at the mid-level almost constantly. But now it just fluctuates between the mid point and just before the red block area when I'm riding. I understand that the fan will kick in to bring down the temperature when it goes too high, but now the indicator needle seems to be "inching" towards the red area more and more before jumping back to the mid-level again.

 

I just want to know whether anyone has experienced this before and whether it is normal?

 

Thanks in advance!

Weelian

Through my own experience on my X8, the temperature gauge level wil more or less remain constant at mid level (this is the norm for our tropical climate) and the X8 works at its best at this level.

 

Under some circumstances that the scoot is under stress namely, hill climbing or traffic jam, the level will move upwards towards the red area. But before it hits the red zone, your fan will automatically turned on to cool the bike on.

 

This explains why sometimes it will go up to nearly the red zone and then it will go down to the mid level again. :smile:

 

But as you described that your needle is inching towards the red zone more and more then personally I don't think its normal. Its best if you consult Mr Yap of Piaggio when you go for your next servicing

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Originally posted by sensible_x8@Oct 27 2006, 12:07 AM

hi bro,

 

i'll be fixing my switch soon.

Mr Yap said that the voltage from batt is too weak to start my bike. Thus, he'll need to check on my batt charging system and the batt. Its either one of these components which are at fault.

 

He'll charge my batt overnight as its very weak. He mentioned that my voltage is about 12.0V , which is not enough to start the engine.

Will collect bike tml.

 

Still under warranty so the charging system is free but i would have to pay for the batt.. :mad:

Hey Sensible_X8, glad nothing serious happen to your scoot. I think its better to install that light switch. :smile:

 

For the trip, its advisable if you can do a thorough servicing before we go. If you had one recently then there shldnt be any worries :smile:

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Originally posted by disar@Oct 27 2006, 10:21 AM

Through my own experience on my X8, the temperature gauge level wil more or less remain constant at mid level (this is the norm for our tropical climate) and the X8 works at its best at this level.

 

Under some circumstances that the scoot is under stress namely, hill climbing or traffic jam, the level will move upwards towards the red area. But before it hits the red zone, your fan will automatically turned on to cool the bike on.

 

This explains why sometimes it will go up to nearly the red zone and then it will go down to the mid level again. :smile:

 

But as you described that your needle is inching towards the red zone more and more then personally I don't think its normal. Its best if you consult Mr Yap of Piaggio when you go for your next servicing

Hi Rasid! and Sensible_X8

 

Thanks for your explanation, I am now monitoring the coolant temperature needle to see if it get's any worse. So far the fan seems to be doing it's job, pushing the needle down to mid level when it is about to touch the red zone, so I'm leaving it as it is. It's just that I never seen the needle fluctuate so many times before, most of the time it just hovers just above the mid point. Also it's bleddy distracting, I don't want to get into an accident because I'm staring at my temperature guage all the time! :giddy:

 

My mileage everyday right now is about 32km, and every thing else on my X8 seems to be working fine, it will be a while before I send for my servicing again at 3000km.

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Originally posted by weeliano@Oct 27 2006, 01:13 PM

Hi Rasid! and Sensible_X8

 

Thanks for your explanation, I am now monitoring the coolant temperature needle to see if it get's any worse. So far the fan seems to be doing it's job, pushing the needle down to mid level when it is about to touch the red zone, so I'm leaving it as it is. It's just that I never seen the needle fluctuate so many times before, most of the time it just hovers just above the mid point. Also it's bleddy distracting, I don't want to get into an accident because I'm staring at my temperature guage all the time! :giddy:

 

My mileage everyday right now is about 32km, and every thing else on my X8 seems to be working fine, it will be a while before I send for my servicing again at 3000km.

Hey weeliano, if it is fluctuating slightly above and slightly below mid level then its normal. Don't worry too much juz concentrate on the road :smile:

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Recon

Brokenbones

kimi

brownkai

velton

 

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Originally posted by disar@Oct 27 2006, 03:23 PM

Hey weeliano, if it is fluctuating slightly above and slightly below mid level then its normal. Don't worry too much juz concentrate on the road :smile:

Thanks Rasid, I'm trying not to get distracted. Been monitoring my latest ride, it's not looking good, seems like the needle is touching the red area far longer than it should be. When I got my bike new, the needle at most goes between the mid point and the red area on the indicator. Now it just fluctuates very frequently even when I'm travelling on a straight level road or even idling! Either I have a coolant circulation problem or the fan is quitting on me again! I'll have to observe this further to confirm my suspicions. I have yet to check my coolant level provided I can remove the damn cap! I had such a difficult time removing it the last time (I couldn't). Mr. Yap says that he managed to uncap it after my 1000km servicing, but I have yet to see whether it's possible myself

 

If this still continues, it looks like I'll have to send my X8 to the PSC again. Damn! This is beginning to get annoying! My X8 is not even 3 months old!

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Originally posted by sensible_x8@Oct 26 2006, 02:00 PM

All the way, bro!

 

So what was your diagnosis for your bike that time?

 

Batt voltage not high enough?

erm...dam time really dam stressful... some more i need to go take my exam sia..hahaha.. got cranking sound but the bike just cannot start... the head light n rear light r killing the batt at the same time... then i know its hopeless... lucky my fren after work come over my place take out the batt.. n bring to botak n charge batt...

 

and u know wat... during tat time i still wanna try push start!!! silly me!!! hahha

 

so get ur headlight switch to fixed is the most important/number 1 thing to do on ur X8 ...

 

X8 all the way... love my X8 everyday... love the storage :lovestruck:

got one time i buy too many stuffs till my X8 really packed sia... lucky can fit all in I shop till i 4get i riding a bike not car... :goodluck:

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I've checked my coolant level when my X8 is cold. It is now right at the bottom near the minimum level. I realized that PSC replaced my Coolant Cap with a brand new one after I damaged the older one trying to open it with a monkey wrench. Mr. Yap says that this is a manufacturing issue with the factory and they are trying to understand why some caps are screwed so tightly that it is impossible to remove without destroying it. Anyway, the cap is easily removed and that's where I realized where my problem originates. I wasted no time acquiring a bottle of radiator coolant and battery water for dilution.

 

Right now I'm waiting for my X8 to cool down before I top up the coolant. This is very strange and it can mean one thing, I'm leaking coolant! I'll have to see if my coolant top up will remedy the problem.

 

To be honest, I'm a complete newbie to motorbikes and scooters, there is one book that I ordered from Amazon before I bought my scooter and I strongly recommend it to anyone who wants to understand how their scooter works. I have learned a lot from it.

 

The title of the book is called "The Scooter Book:Everything you need to know about owning, enjoying and maintaining your scooter"

 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product//18442509...9544414-4074546

 

The rating at Amazon for the book is very bad but don't be fooled by it because the review is written by a disgruntled American who expected the book to follow American road rules. I just wrote another review to shore it up.

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Originally posted by weeliano@Oct 28 2006, 10:14 AM

I've checked my coolant level when my X8 is cold. It is now right at the bottom near the minimum level. I realized that PSC replaced my Coolant Cap with a brand new one after I damaged the older one trying to open it with a monkey wrench. Mr. Yap says that this is a manufacturing issue with the factory and they are trying to understand why some caps are screwed so tightly that it is impossible to remove without destroying it. Anyway, the cap is easily removed and that's where I realized where my problem originates. I wasted no time acquiring a bottle of radiator coolant and battery water for dilution.

 

Right now I'm waiting for my X8 to cool down before I top up the coolant. This is very strange and it can mean one thing, I'm leaking coolant! I'll have to see if my coolant top up will remedy the problem.

 

To be honest, I'm a complete newbie to motorbikes and scooters, there is one book that I ordered from Amazon before I bought my scooter and I strongly recommend it to anyone who wants to understand how their scooter works. I have learned a lot from it.

 

The title of the book is called "The Scooter Book:Everything you need to know about owning, enjoying and maintaining your scooter"

 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product//18442509...9544414-4074546

 

The rating at Amazon for the book is very bad but don't be fooled by it because the review is written by a disgruntled American who expected the book to follow American road rules. I just wrote another review to shore it up.

hehe... I read the same book at borders... highly recommended for people wanna understand abt scooters... very interesting book also learn alot from it...

 

weelian... thx for ur update on ur coolant... also let me learn something new...

 

:cheeky:

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Hey BrownKai! That's what this forum's all about sharing and exchanging useful information. Update on the condition of my scooter. Apparently the coolant tank is almost dry!!! I mixed 50% distilled water and 50% coolant to make 1 litre and I completely used it up!!!! :giddy:

 

I don't know what the heck is going on, but I'll be sure to keep an eye on the temperature in the coming week, but of course 100% attention on the road for safety!

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Update on my bike, just went for a spin on my X8 to run some errands. Now the temperature is stable and just sticks at the centre level and never deviate at all! It takes much longer from cold state to the mid level indicator. Something tells me that I've been riding my scooter on coolant vapour for the past few days! I won't be surprised that that's the cause of my electric fan's breakdown in the first place.

 

How come they never top up my coolant before delivering me my X8! Anyway, it now runs like a dream and I manage to hit 100km/h briefly on the downhill run on the CTE and the temperature remains at the mid level!

 

So next time you see your coolant temp needle fluctuating like crazy, it's time to check your coolant level!

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