Yamaha YZF-R6

rein_jahat14 · February 24, 2011

It's the stupidest tings to do is to get a sec hand tyres. Trackies haf used finish the heat cycle aldy. Hard to heat up Ur tyre for the grip. If u can afford a R6 buy a better tyres. How much u pay how much performance u get.

wa so upzzz ar ur speech... i very inspired!! haha.. UPZZ UPZZ BRO!!! Actually i agree.. hahaha

Den according to u the tyres is stil so Gd. Y u wanna sell? Y dun u continue using it since it tk Juz a little longer to warm up.

good choice bro, getting a fesh set of tyres. I think some are using. for road not too bad i would say. But normally when we change tyres we change as a set (front and rear).
What bro wenxiong said makes sense, the second hand tyres are actually only good for commuting str road. And i'm sure alot of us road riders and occasional track riders do play a bit on the road. We dun just ride str road all the way using it like a sports tourer bike.
So it's just a case of penny wise pound foolish. You post on forum so we just give u our honest opinion that changing a brand new set would be much better. If the tyres are not good for someone else y should be be good enough for us? Is it just because we are street riders as compared to full time track junkies... The second hand tyre milage may be low as all are used on track and the threading may still look pretty new except for the sides. so y sell? As the heat cycle is already gone and the rubber compound is already abit harden. If it just the case as said in the earlier post that it's just that the tyres take a longer time to heat up den y not contiune using it. Den comes the sayings not good enough for track for still ok for road. We have also strongly advised against our own friend from changing a pair of second hand tyres.
it is not a case of brand new tyres can str away knee down once u turn out of the car park,it is just safer.
100 + for a pair of tyres that can last u a few months den you gotta change tyres , in the end you'll end up paying more. Maybe some ppl like old track tyres as other ppl see alr they will think this rider very fierce due to the tyre wear, but honestly doesn't serve a purpose. I feel this is the main fraw for selling second hand track tyres.
Actually to be honest it's just to cut cost by selling the tyres to get a fresh set of tyres for track. correct me if I am wrong.
I've shared my own opinion. Hopefully won't get flamed.

Kind of agree of what SLIZE say ... During my younger days , i used to change tyres almost every 3~4 mths , so in order to cut cost we usually sell our used tyres for $100 .. There will always be riders with budget to buy from us since its cheap n can last them quite sometimes since the centre threading still have 70% left .. Tyres like 2CT, DC3 , BT003 are the same price as the SC2 , K2 , Power One but these semi slicks althought started to slide at track , it still hold perfectly well on roads but the dual compound will start to slide even on normal road after 4 mths depending on your riding style plus it cant last more then 2 sessions compare to the semi slicks that can at least last 4 sessions or more ...
I have a few gd friends who go touring often will buy my used tyres for touring coz to them its more then enough in terms of grip n price .. Although those touring tyres can last longer but its cost more n offer less grip so they rather get from us or from my mentors ...
But never ever buy a used tyres to go track !!! Its a dangerous and suicide act !!

Totally agree with u. Used tyres are not to be used at track, but safe enough for tour or road use!
Some might think otherwise. If u can afford, just get a new set. But what if ur tyres are really worn and u dont have enough? Not every one is born a rich mans son. Some riders can afford class 2 bikes but will be a little tight on other expenses. Doesnt mean u own an r6 u certain can and will afford new tyres every time, **** happens.

Then again i dont tink getting used tyres is stupid. U might never know if that person has other reasons to use the $$ for. U can give ur points and views but calling stupid and saying that a rider who can afford big bikes should afford new set is wrong. Just my 2cents of thots..

Yes to use for touring purposes to savw on ur current set of tyres it is quite worth it to buy a second hand tyre in that aspect. I also keep my own old track tyres for touring as to save on my current new tyres. But for those that wanna try out the tyre no point buying a second hand one as you will not be able to fully try that tyre out.

Before you buy a bike all these expenses should be worked out. You cannot be a working slave to whatever transport you own. It's not feasible to work so hard just to maintain the bike. That is IMHO. It's not about rich man son or wat. I'm sure all of us work hard for our money. And it's how you wanna spend it.
It's doesn't do us any good to tell him not to buy this and that. I dun take a profit or a cut or earn anything. He posted so we give our opinions. Maybe abit of advise on what our own thinking is. whether he buys a second hand tyre or brand new doesn't do me any good. Just offering friendly advise.

Like bro yazid in the end bought a new set of tyres. Most prob he's just asking around for our opinion of what tyres to get and considering a cheaper ALT. But if u can afford a new tyre change which alot of us can afford best it not to purposely budget urself and go save on stuff like tyres. End of the day it will not be worth it.

Anyway raining days ahead.. ride safe.

Hmmm....i tink evyone shld haf worked out a budget b4 buying a bike. Finiacially stable n haf extra cash to spare for rainy days. It not about being a rich man son. If u get a bike n dun haf extra to spend n haf to budget on dis n tat. I doubt u r ready. Can say most important of a bike is the tyres. It the 1st ting tat contact on the road. Save a bit on the tyres but end up paying even more for the unnecessary damage repair. Buyin a brand new tyres give u more confident, as der is no history abt the 2nd hand tyres.

True. The budget will have to be worked out first. Den u can start to see which bike you can afford.

Wat a bunch of wannabe Racers talking..

I take u guys on a used race tires anytime..

Especially the one that said the fella is stupid to buy used race tires.

Yes Race tire lose its performance after several heat cycle..but have u any idea wat ur tire get to its max or optimal temp?

We are looking at 80 - 95 degree celsius..That only happen whe u push hard.Hard braking/fast corner speed,low banking angle with speed..also the compound that race tire is(soft/medium/hard or now tire have those in between types)

I'm talking abt 1.40's & below at PG/2.20s at Sepang..(Many Singapore boys can hit that? I know a few..)the tire need equilibrium distribution of heat follow by its internal air pressure..

Not by riding from Singapore to Bukit Kayu Hitam,Tampines to Tuas!!or better still let the sun heat the tire or the heat of the tarmac..

if its not push heat cycle don take significant effect..

Unless its off the 3-4yrs shelf life,Totally BALD,got several puncture-repatch..The tires should works..

In track riding "Yes" Tire conditions matters..But its how the rider rides factor..

Don pin a rider down who can't afford fresh tires,have very nice looking wannabe race parts but only showcase at Orchard,Kallag,Yishun Dam.

Seriously..take my offer on..i am on a very used Diablo SuperCorsa used for my last Year MSS event..Very,Very used..!!

How abt we have a Go PG,Sepang,Tuas if still avail,kallang carpark or u nearby neighbourhood best corner..Any of u Crab Talking Wannabe's that think u know abt Racing or Racing part..

Give constructive inputs..Not bring people down..!!

Now i call u guys names..not too happy abt it..Call me..we can talk.

Or better still let's have a race!

kenshin-gsr · February 24, 2011

did any of the R6 rider here piss him off on the road???? btw we ride we share and we dun act childish ^^

rein_jahat14 · February 24, 2011

These three MotoGp riders are from 3 Major MotoGp team,

With Huge Budget & tyres mean nothing for the sake of development..Check out them using used tires..

So they are stupid?

They don have money?

Quote from Ben spies(Factory Yamaha) On Motogp.com

â€œToday we came to this Test with the engine configurations we're going to race with so both bikes have that. We just warmed up in the morning and spent the afternoon on one set of tyres,â€ said Spies, who was sixth fastest with a lap of 2â€™01.808. â€œWe set our fastest lap of the day when it was very hot and mid race distance on a hard tyre. We're saving some tyres for the end of the Test when the track's good.â€

He continued: â€œWe worked on some race set-up and I also worked on some different riding styles. We'll start again tomorrow with plenty more to do. We tried a couple of shocks and found a few tenths and were still consistently fast on used tyres which was promising. It's definitely a good day and I'm happy with it."

Quote by Casey Stoner(Factory Repsol Honda)

â€œIn general we were able to take some good steps forward. We tried many things, alternating between the two chassis, one more rigid and the other more flexible. We tried to find out which one gave the best sensations. We still havenâ€™t made big changes on the set-up, which is really positive. We only tested some different things more to confirm that they work, rather than to really evaluate them. In the end we were able to make the bike work much better on used tyres and with a different traction control which brakes a little faster when they start to spin, and that helped us improve our corner speed.â€

Quote by Ãlvaro Bautista(Factory Rizla Suzuki) Motogp.com:

â€œImmediately when I left the pit lane this morning the feeling was more normal than yesterday â€“ after my first day back at work it was easier to understand everything. On my first run I set a good lap time and this was very close to the fastest guys, except Dani who made a real qualifying lap! Much more important was that I could make high 2â€™01â€ lap times with very old tyres, and my rhythm felt good. Also, I tried three different chassis today and the results of that test were quite clear, and we have made an improvement to front feeling and turning. The engineers have also done some good work with the traction control and this is helping me get out of the corners more smoothly.â€

â€œAnyway, now I am quite tired after 63 laps and I didnâ€™t push for a fast time at the end of the day like many guys did â€“ itâ€™s more important to understand the bike on old tyres. I am very happy with the developments Suzuki has made, and Iâ€™m enjoying myself â€“ I think we can have some fun this season!â€

Rizla Suzuki press release

kenshin-gsr · February 24, 2011

hmmm... wat u wanna prove then?? you're a good reporter? or a good and awesome news collector??? btw even you prove u're rite! then? the guys has money to spend with! is not like they are using ur hard earn cent!!! y bother wat they wanna bullshxting??

rein_jahat14 · February 24, 2011

hmmm... wat u wanna prove then?? you're a good reporter? or a good and awesome news collector??? btw even you prove u're rite! then? the guys has money to spend with! is not like they are using ur hard earn cent!!! y bother wat they wanna bullshxting??

My point is..if u like brand new tire well & fine..that's ur opinion..but don tell another fella stupid if he has another..

Like any forum is to share..

Yes hard earn money true..

its ur very own right..But don incurr ur own right at the expense of calling another stupid who don see ur views..

How do u feel i call u STUPID,IDIOT OR SOME **** WORD..

uR GIVING UR POINT HERE..

i don bring u down..But i won stand for this..

U can give ur views..& u can critic it constructively..

Don blatantly call other forum names..

Due to that i call them back..

But if u feel its OK to bullshit here..

Then here goes..

Ur a moron..!!

Cheers.

kenshin-gsr · February 24, 2011

wow! sound like u very educated man! but... wats forum for? is for us to say wat we wan. i didnt ask them to follow me. or i didnt ask them to pay for the tire i bought... if they happy they can buy... no1 pointing a gun at their head saying u must buy! if i'm a moron then most likely u're an idiot as u respond to a moron thread... haha! cheers!!!

wenxiong64 · February 24, 2011

wow! sound like u very educated man! but... wats forum for? is for us to say wat we wan. i didnt ask them to follow me. or i didnt ask them to pay for the tire i bought... if they happy they can buy... no1 pointing a gun at their head saying u must buy! if i'm a moron then most likely u're an idiot as u respond to a moron thread... haha! cheers!!!

He is sure a very educated man to understand wats the stupidest tings mean. R u the tings i m refering to? Come on get a life, We haf the rite for wat we say on the forum.

Slize · February 24, 2011

Actually Mr.Rein very inspired speech. Firstly yes we all know you are a MSS racer. Yes very fast. No need to be on used tyres, you can beat us hands down with a 2B bike, So what's your pt on that. That's is wat u are good at so Koodos to you.

Secondly people post people reply, thats is what a forum is about, sharing info and talk co*ck sessions. Someone asked about used tyres compared to fresh set of tyres, So we gave our feedback. Just some advice from our own point of view , as we Normal riders are not so SKILLED as you. Of cause to us we prefer to and would feel more confident with better grip on the wheels and I'm sure we definetely need it more then you.

Btw if you have seen what bro Yazid posted (the bro that was asking about the tyres) He has the money to buy new tyres , was just considering and weighing his options. So I said if you can afford a R6. which is a pretty expensive bike to some of us, maybe not to you. So spend abit more on a new set of tyres may well ( the key word is may) prevent our fellow bro from something bad which may in turn cost more repairs. Thus penny wise pound foolish. If he can afford a new set of tyres like he has said why save on these kind of money. So we all just gave him some advice based on our own opinion.

Yes I admit I'm a racer wannabe or we are all racerwannabes. And yes we Do not race the MSS, But we still enjoy ocassional track day sessions. All dreaming of being like Valentino Rossi, Nicky Hayden, Casey Stoner and so on and having their kind of performace parts even if we are unable to fully use it to the max.... So are you trying to say that you aren't? Or does it mean you are sponsored by a bike shop and race in the MSS that makes you a real racer. End of the day this is all our hobbies and passion that we enjoy. May not be very good at it but we still find it fun and enjoy doing it. We see riders we do not know at bike shops and we all can start toking about bikes and parts. So if we are not real racers like you are termed then we cannot ride a nice sports bike, put on nice mods and go out? Is it just because we do not have the ability to fully use the full performance of mods thats why these mods are called wanna be race parts? I'm also very sure that you being as fast a MSS racer as you are, you also cannot fully unlease the full performace if not you'll be racing in SBK or motogp. So y look down on us, like what other bros said. It's our own money and how we want to spend it.

What we were toking about affording this kind of bike is to be able to afford the vehicle and live comfortablely not a working slave to vehicle. End of the days these are just our views, Whether the rider wants to put a down payment of $2000 and take a $25k loan for 5yrs ,7 yrs end of the day it's up to them. Whether they wanna change brand new tyres or second hand tyres it's also up to them.

You like to post news comments, Have you read about the young couple spent all their money on buying a condo just for name sake end up inside the house it's all empty cause no money to buy furniture. What would you term this couple as? Or would you rather stay in a 4-5rm HDB flat but can get to live nicely and comfortably. So as fellow rider we just give pieces of our own advices. ( sorry if i went off topic)

In your terms only by being a True racer like you. Then only you would know about racing parts? So regarding your tyres heat cycle and all did you figure it out on your own by studying and measuring the temp and finding out what makes the compound of the tryes or did ur mech tell it to you or did u pick it off the internet like what post of us do read and reserach it. Since only real racers like you know about racing parts then really thumps up and Koodus to you. Since lower riders like us only talk crap about wannabe mods. I'm sure you can answer all the bros question from now on better den any of us.

Btw very sorry to be a racer wannabe and have wannabe mods. I do not know how it's affecting you. But I'm quite happy and comfortable with my bike fully cashed, and nicely modded up. Thanks for spicing up this thread abit with your knowleage. I learnt alot.

PS : Hope to see you as a Wild card rider when our local Singapore Track is up for Motogp. I'm sure you will show us carp talking racer wannabes how the mods truely work.

And also my deepest apologies for spoiling any of your second hand tyres sales here. I think my next change will be second hand tyres too. Go ahead bros the pros have spoken. Do not listen to crap talking racer wannabes.

Cheers Mr Rein

rein_jahat14 · February 24, 2011

Actually Mr.Rein very inspired speech. Firstly yes we all know you are a MSS racer. Yes very fast. No need to be on used tyres, you can beat us hands down with a 2B bike, So what's your pt on that. That's is wat u are good at so Koodos to you.

Secondly people post people reply, thats is what a forum is about, sharing info and talk co*ck sessions. Someone asked about used tyres compared to fresh set of tyres, So we gave our feedback. Just some advice from our own point of view , as we Normal riders are not so SKILLED as you. Of cause to us we prefer to and would feel more confident with better grip on the wheels and I'm sure we definetely need it more then you.
Btw if you have seen what bro Yazid posted (the bro that was asking about the tyres) He has the money to buy new tyres , was just considering and weighing his options. So I said if you can afford a R6. which is a pretty expensive bike to some of us, maybe not to you. So spend abit more on a new set of tyres may well ( the key word is may) prevent our fellow bro from something bad which may in turn cost more repairs. Thus penny wise pound foolish. If he can afford a new set of tyres like he has said why save on these kind of money. So we all just gave him some advice based on our own opinion.

Yes I admit I'm a racer wannabe or we are all racerwannabes. And yes we Do not race the MSS, But we still enjoy ocassional track day sessions. All dreaming of being like Valentino Rossi, Nicky Hayden, Casey Stoner and so on and having their kind of performace parts even if we are unable to fully use it to the max.... So are you trying to say that you aren't? Or does it mean you are sponsored by a bike shop and race in the MSS that makes you a real racer. End of the day this is all our hobbies and passion that we enjoy. May not be very good at it but we still find it fun and enjoy doing it. We see riders we do not know at bike shops and we all can start toking about bikes and parts. So if we are not real racers like you are termed then we cannot ride a nice sports bike, put on nice mods and go out? Is it just because we do not have the ability to fully use the full performance of mods thats why these mods are called wanna be race parts? I'm also very sure that you being as fast a MSS racer as you are, you also cannot fully unlease the full performace if not you'll be racing in SBK or motogp. So y look down on us, like what other bros said. It's our own money and how we want to spend it.
What we were toking about affording this kind of bike is to be able to afford the vehicle and live comfortablely not a working slave to vehicle. End of the days these are just our views, Whether the rider wants to put a down payment of $2000 and take a $25k loan for 5yrs ,7 yrs end of the day it's up to them. Whether they wanna change brand new tyres or second hand tyres it's also up to them.
You like to post news comments, Have you read about the young couple spent all their money on buying a condo just for name sake end up inside the house it's all empty cause no money to buy furniture. What would you term this couple as? Or would you rather stay in a 4-5rm HDB flat but can get to live nicely and comfortably. So as fellow rider we just give pieces of our own advices. ( sorry if i went off topic)

In your terms only by being a True racer like you. Then only you would know about racing parts? So regarding your tyres heat cycle and all did you figure it out on your own by studying and measuring the temp and finding out what makes the compound of the tryes or did ur mech tell it to you or did u pick it off the internet like what post of us do read and reserach it. Since only real racers like you know about racing parts then really thumps up and Koodus to you. Since lower riders like us only talk crap about wannabe mods. I'm sure you can answer all the bros question from now on better den any of us.
Btw very sorry to be a racer wannabe and have wannabe mods. I do not know how it's affecting you. But I'm quite happy and comfortable with my bike fully cashed, and nicely modded up. Thanks for spicing up this thread abit with your knowleage. I learnt alot.

PS : Hope to see you as a Wild card rider when our local Singapore Track is up for Motogp. I'm sure you will show us carp talking racer wannabes how the mods truely work.
And also my deepest apologies for spoiling any of your second hand tyres sales here. I think my next change will be second hand tyres too. Go ahead bros the pros have spoken. Do not listen to crap talking racer wannabes.

Cheers Mr Rein

I have nothing against riders wanting to mod,upgrade,pimp or juz make it as similar to a GP bike..

Heck..its to consumer like u guys who make us riders have sponsors..its to generate potential consumer even though they race or not..

In fact i should Thanked,You riders for buying the accessories or parts..

But WAT i am not happy abt is why bring down a fellow R6 rider comment abt used race tires by Calling or Deemed them STUPID..?

Was that necessary..?

I know there are far more faster & with better knowledge rider out there..but should we not educate or share with new or upcoming fella's into the scene too??

Hey i started tracking at a learners stage with NO knowledge or understanding..

its thru this forum i better myself with inputs that i could apply on track..

Why give remarks like "can afford R6 why cannot buy fresh tires??"

Is the criteria for owning a big machine or a street race machine??

Why not advise/approached them to check out the conditions of the used rubber,its wear or its damage?Before proceeding on buying or using a 2nd hand tire..

I am not making a fuss because i have 2nd hand tires to sell..

I don gain much from it,In fact its a hassle..But my thoughts is to let riders have an opportunity to try a race tire at affordable price..

AND i don tout riders u all MUST buy,MUST use,MUST try??

But the idealogy being forward is not very positive to our very own bike scene..

We are a small community of bikers..Yes we joke,we prank..but we also learn from others knowledge or mishap..

Abt the tire heat cycle,tire wear & its condition this is from 5 yrs of racing..

i have the opportunity to learn from the experience,i even had the opportunity to collaborate with Pirelli technician thru my bike shop..

Its not from the mech..I did my own homework,

Also its my nature to study & learn on wat i am using or trying..

A good mechanic don mean he's a good rider..So ultimately its up to the rider to absorb wat he learn,wat he experience,how he can make the bike suit his riding or adapt his riding to suit the bike..

Abt racing as wildcard for Singapore GP..

How i wish its possible..But To have an opportunity to race a GP machine is with hard work & lots of funding..skill alone is not enough..

Sadly i doubt that might happen to any Singaporean any time soon..

BUT..

In the near future..I Hope a Singaporean will race in any of the MotoGP category..

I am not an expert in every part of the bike be it Yamaha R6 or any other..

But thru wat i have gain racing i will give my inputs..Constructive ones..

if i had experience or know abt it,i will speak..

If i don i will find out..

If still donno..i will keep quiet..!!

Ok enough typing for the nite..

Cheers to u slize & Ya do reply..i welcome ur feedback on wat i have wrote..

Regards,

-ReIn #72-

PS- Kenshin aka Moron..Thanks for reminding me i am an idiot,never though it that way abt replyin to ur feedback.Next time i will go to Bullshit About MORON THREAD to reply to your comments.

And ya..U guys can beep me @ 83121946 if u want to talk personally..

Don worry i am not a KeyBoard Warrior..Cheers Guys.

Edited February 24, 2011 by rein_jahat14
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Junda · February 25, 2011

peace out.

tec · February 25, 2011

Wat a bunch of wannabe Racers talking..
I take u guys on a used race tires anytime..
Especially the one that said the fella is stupid to buy used race tires.

Yes Race tire lose its performance after several heat cycle..but have u any idea wat ur tire get to its max or optimal temp?
We are looking at 80 - 95 degree celsius..That only happen whe u push hard.Hard braking/fast corner speed,low banking angle with speed..also the compound that race tire is(soft/medium/hard or now tire have those in between types)
I'm talking abt 1.40's & below at PG/2.20s at Sepang..(Many Singapore boys can hit that? I know a few..)the tire need equilibrium distribution of heat follow by its internal air pressure..
Not by riding from Singapore to Bukit Kayu Hitam,Tampines to Tuas!!or better still let the sun heat the tire or the heat of the tarmac..
if its not push heat cycle don take significant effect..
Unless its off the 3-4yrs shelf life,Totally BALD,got several puncture-repatch..The tires should works..
In track riding "Yes" Tire conditions matters..But its how the rider rides factor..
Don pin a rider down who can't afford fresh tires,have very nice looking wannabe race parts but only showcase at Orchard,Kallag,Yishun Dam.

Seriously..take my offer on..i am on a very used Diablo SuperCorsa used for my last Year MSS event..Very,Very used..!!

How abt we have a Go PG,Sepang,Tuas if still avail,kallang carpark or u nearby neighbourhood best corner..Any of u Crab Talking Wannabe's that think u know abt Racing or Racing part..

Give constructive inputs..Not bring people down..!!
Now i call u guys names..not too happy abt it..Call me..we can talk.
Or better still let's have a race!

Ok there are words which some guys uses here are inappropriate but you seem abit harsh too on your part .. As most of the people know u have years of experience on track and Race .. I dun think anyone here is really your match , maybe only my mentors is on the same level as you ..

With your experience , u know how to feel the bike , u know how to react when your rear slide out , u know where is your braking point , what gear to use where to look when u turn in etc etc ... Do u you think these part time riders with passion is as experience as you do as a racer ??? These people are there to enjoy the ride .. With a new tyres , they wont have the mentality barrier in their head that the rear will slide when they exit or the front end will give away before they turn in ..Its all in the head , but if you are new n budget , i rather u get a 2nd hand semi slicks tyres , then use those touring tyres if u wana go track coz of the tyres temp that the road tyres are not that high, a new pair of tyres will set u back $400 a crash will set u back at least 1k .. You are a nice guys where u used to share with fellow riders guess you must be quite impulsive when u type the one 1 i quote

Come on guys relax Chill its better to have 1 more friend then enemy .. Cheers

Edited February 25, 2011 by tec

kenshin-gsr · February 25, 2011

wahahahahaha moron thread to reply my comment?? wow! nice!!!

kenshin-gsr · February 25, 2011

I have nothing against riders wanting to mod,upgrade,pimp or juz make it as similar to a GP bike..
Heck..its to consumer like u guys who make us riders have sponsors..its to generate potential consumer even though they race or not..
In fact i should Thanked,You riders for buying the accessories or parts..
But WAT i am not happy abt is why bring down a fellow R6 rider comment abt used race tires by Calling or Deemed them STUPID..?
Was that necessary..?

I know there are far more faster & with better knowledge rider out there..but should we not educate or share with new or upcoming fella's into the scene too??

Hey i started tracking at a learners stage with NO knowledge or understanding..
its thru this forum i better myself with inputs that i could apply on track..
Why give remarks like "can afford R6 why cannot buy fresh tires??"
Is the criteria for owning a big machine or a street race machine??

Why not advise/approached them to check out the conditions of the used rubber,its wear or its damage?Before proceeding on buying or using a 2nd hand tire..

I am not making a fuss because i have 2nd hand tires to sell..
I don gain much from it,In fact its a hassle..But my thoughts is to let riders have an opportunity to try a race tire at affordable price..
AND i don tout riders u all MUST buy,MUST use,MUST try??

But the idealogy being forward is not very positive to our very own bike scene..
We are a small community of bikers..Yes we joke,we prank..but we also learn from others knowledge or mishap..

Abt the tire heat cycle,tire wear & its condition this is from 5 yrs of racing..
i have the opportunity to learn from the experience,i even had the opportunity to collaborate with Pirelli technician thru my bike shop..
Its not from the mech..I did my own homework,
Also its my nature to study & learn on wat i am using or trying..
A good mechanic don mean he's a good rider..So ultimately its up to the rider to absorb wat he learn,wat he experience,how he can make the bike suit his riding or adapt his riding to suit the bike..

Abt racing as wildcard for Singapore GP..
How i wish its possible..But To have an opportunity to race a GP machine is with hard work & lots of funding..skill alone is not enough..
Sadly i doubt that might happen to any Singaporean any time soon..
BUT..
In the near future..I Hope a Singaporean will race in any of the MotoGP category..

I am not an expert in every part of the bike be it Yamaha R6 or any other..
But thru wat i have gain racing i will give my inputs..Constructive ones..
if i had experience or know abt it,i will speak..
If i don i will find out..
If still donno..i will keep quiet..!!

Ok enough typing for the nite..
Cheers to u slize & Ya do reply..i welcome ur feedback on wat i have wrote..

Regards,
-ReIn #72-

PS- Kenshin aka Moron..Thanks for reminding me i am an idiot,never though it that way abt replyin to ur feedback.Next time i will go to Bullshit About MORON THREAD to reply to your comments.

And ya..U guys can beep me @ 83121946 if u want to talk personally..
Don worry i am not a KeyBoard Warrior..Cheers Guys.

looks like is inviting ppl to call him ler... hmmmm wonder wat he wanna talk personally? 90% off 2nd hand tyre???

calbee · February 25, 2011

Anybody has any shop to recommend for de-catting stock headers + installation of midpipe(I provide the midpipe, Juz need workmanship)

& what's the price? If inconvenient to quote prices and shop name here do feel free to pm me. Newbie here need some guidance, thanks guys.

Double Brotherz · February 25, 2011

I have nothing against riders wanting to mod,upgrade,pimp or juz make it as similar to a GP bike..
Heck..its to consumer like u guys who make us riders have sponsors..its to generate potential consumer even though they race or not..
In fact i should Thanked,You riders for buying the accessories or parts..
But WAT i am not happy abt is why bring down a fellow R6 rider comment abt used race tires by Calling or Deemed them STUPID..?
Was that necessary..?

I know there are far more faster & with better knowledge rider out there..but should we not educate or share with new or upcoming fella's into the scene too??

Hey i started tracking at a learners stage with NO knowledge or understanding..
its thru this forum i better myself with inputs that i could apply on track..
Why give remarks like "can afford R6 why cannot buy fresh tires??"
Is the criteria for owning a big machine or a street race machine??

Why not advise/approached them to check out the conditions of the used rubber,its wear or its damage?Before proceeding on buying or using a 2nd hand tire..

I am not making a fuss because i have 2nd hand tires to sell..
I don gain much from it,In fact its a hassle..But my thoughts is to let riders have an opportunity to try a race tire at affordable price..
AND i don tout riders u all MUST buy,MUST use,MUST try??

But the idealogy being forward is not very positive to our very own bike scene..
We are a small community of bikers..Yes we joke,we prank..but we also learn from others knowledge or mishap..

Abt the tire heat cycle,tire wear & its condition this is from 5 yrs of racing..
i have the opportunity to learn from the experience,i even had the opportunity to collaborate with Pirelli technician thru my bike shop..
Its not from the mech..I did my own homework,
Also its my nature to study & learn on wat i am using or trying..
A good mechanic don mean he's a good rider..So ultimately its up to the rider to absorb wat he learn,wat he experience,how he can make the bike suit his riding or adapt his riding to suit the bike..

Abt racing as wildcard for Singapore GP..
How i wish its possible..But To have an opportunity to race a GP machine is with hard work & lots of funding..skill alone is not enough..
Sadly i doubt that might happen to any Singaporean any time soon..
BUT..
In the near future..I Hope a Singaporean will race in any of the MotoGP category..

I am not an expert in every part of the bike be it Yamaha R6 or any other..
But thru wat i have gain racing i will give my inputs..Constructive ones..
if i had experience or know abt it,i will speak..
If i don i will find out..
If still donno..i will keep quiet..!!

Ok enough typing for the nite..
Cheers to u slize & Ya do reply..i welcome ur feedback on wat i have wrote..

Regards,
-ReIn #72-

PS- Kenshin aka Moron..Thanks for reminding me i am an idiot,never though it that way abt replyin to ur feedback.Next time i will go to Bullshit About MORON THREAD to reply to your comments.

And ya..U guys can beep me @ 83121946 if u want to talk personally..
Don worry i am not a KeyBoard Warrior..Cheers Guys.

looks like is inviting ppl to call him ler... hmmmm wonder wat he wanna talk personally? 90% off 2nd hand tyre???

Come on guys... relax and reason out... Give way to each side k... This forum is make friends and share knowledges.. Enjoy the weekends man... My first set of power 1 tyres compund A were 2nd hand. they worked beautifully too...

rein i've met you b4. and didnt know you were this fierce too man...

Edited February 25, 2011 by Double Brotherz

Double Brotherz · February 25, 2011

wow! sound like u very educated man! but... wats forum for? is for us to say wat we wan. i didnt ask them to follow me. or i didnt ask them to pay for the tire i bought... if they happy they can buy... no1 pointing a gun at their head saying u must buy! if i'm a moron then most likely u're an idiot as u respond to a moron thread... haha! cheers!!!

Bro. your above stated comment wasnt right bro... just stop commenting anymore to instigate others. Now take a step back bro.

GQ82 · February 25, 2011

Mann race him w ur scoot lei.. Hahaha

lvin · February 25, 2011

Hi Rein....still remember me???cool down...why lost ur cool ler.. hows life man...

Double Brotherz · February 25, 2011

Mann race him w ur scoot lei.. Hahaha

Ny scoot cant run bro.. Eh.. when wanna go JB's venture together?? lol!

calbee · February 25, 2011

wah nobody has answer for my question. FML lol.

rein_jahat14 · February 25, 2011

Ok there are words which some guys uses here are inappropriate but you seem abit harsh too on your part .. As most of the people know u have years of experience on track and Race .. I dun think anyone here is really your match , maybe only my mentors is on the same level as you ..
With your experience , u know how to feel the bike , u know how to react when your rear slide out , u know where is your braking point , what gear to use where to look when u turn in etc etc ... Do u you think these part time riders with passion is as experience as you do as a racer ??? These people are there to enjoy the ride .. With a new tyres , they wont have the mentality barrier in their head that the rear will slide when they exit or the front end will give away before they turn in ..Its all in the head , but if you are new n budget , i rather u get a 2nd hand semi slicks tyres , then use those touring tyres if u wana go track coz of the tyres temp that the road tyres are not that high, a new pair of tyres will set u back $400 a crash will set u back at least 1k .. You are a nice guys where u used to share with fellow riders guess you must be quite impulsive when u type the one 1 i quote

Come on guys relax Chill its better to have 1 more friend then enemy .. Cheers

Bro..

I not trying to Boss myself here juz because i raced,i have some knowledge on tires or bikes.

But i felt compled to respone to this.

A fellow rider/forumer gives input of a question being forward..

For his input..

He's being Labelled/Called/Deemed STUPID..??

Also remarks made on his inputs "Can buy R6 can buy better tires."( from wat i interpreted this "if don have money don buy R6 as u can't afford the tires change"

And most rallied/Inspired to the comment agreein that its an act of stupidity..

The fellow rider/forumer did try to mediate..

For that he is perceived as trying to make a used tire sale..

Then u guys preached abt only to commit/buy a bike based on how deep ur pockets or how stable on ur income..blah,blah,blah..( I can understand of an advised but on a basis of getting a Used tires..??)

I agree that Safety is Utmost be it Track or Street..

All bikers want to enjoy their passion/hobby at their best ability & affordability and still able to go back to their love ones..

But do have some respect.

Can juz comment such as " Used tires are unsafe due to Heat cycle lah,Tire wear pattern lah...blah,blah,blah..Get new one if possible bro"

Even better if can recommend,if u got shop can give good price.(Networking all gain)

End of the day each fellows here wants to share their opinion or inputs,& also gain knowledge,frens,kaki's on similar interest..

I am sorry if i cross anyone's line here,

Nor am i not responding to this because i had used race tires for sale.(i don have to sell them,can juz keep & trade them in during MSS weekend for a fresh diablo's)

But if u guys feel i am the bad guys here,so be it..

But at least i have inculcate some awareness abt being constructive on ur responds.

Regards

rein_jahat14 · February 25, 2011

looks like is inviting ppl to call him ler... hmmmm wonder wat he wanna talk personally? 90% off 2nd hand tyre???

For U i give the tire free,

In fact i will help u install it because i'm scared a moron will fix the rear tire at the front..

rein_jahat14 · February 25, 2011

Lvin[/MENTION];6963893]Hi Rein....still remember me???cool down...why lost ur cool ler.. hows life man...

Of course remember one..

I'm good brother..

Aiyah U know me alvin..

if i'm wrong i admit & apologies,nor do i try to boast myself on wat i have experience..

We were ones also gundu wat..So much we learn from here rite..

Life's good..looking forward to another competitive season..

How abt u?

long time never hear..come join me lah before i retire..hehe..

Beep me lah..maybe can meet can chit chat..ok bro.

rein_jahat14 · February 25, 2011

rein i've met you b4. and didnt know you were this fierce too man...

Bro i am still that person.

And i am not fierce lah..

Just standing up on my believe..

Don worry bro,I am fine & don bear any grudge on anyone over this.

kenshin-gsr · February 26, 2011

For U i give the tire free,
In fact i will help u install it because i'm scared a moron will fix the rear tire at the front..

wow! tats good of u to install for me! but too bad i wont let an idiot to touch my bike.... even install the correct tyre at the right place... but too bad i think u will screw in the wrong nut!

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