[Group] SUZUKI GSR 400/600

[WildCard]

Anyways, Now a days Engines are equip with Hydraulic Valves, controled by the ECU which lead to programming the ECU to adjust the valve according to it's original settings, BUT....there a BUTT.... Based on experience it's still need to be adjust manually to it's specify measurements, That why we need a Manual for this Occasion to insure the cleara......Oh **** it's 2114hrs damn im gonna be late, gotta meet the GSR's at jurong Bird park by 2200hrs Old Town Coffee baby....yeah...

Uhhh.... To Be Continued....Sori Better post this first Before it's gone...

 

Bro, most bike engines are still spring-based valves.

Hydraulic valves are not so common. There are. But GSR is certainly not in the list.

We're still based on the old shim bucket and spring valves system.

 

I do know the YZR-M1 that Rossi rides uses that.

Very big-bore bikes (GoldWing, RoyalStar, etc) will prolly use hydraulic valves due to the pressure involve (Imagine each cylinder of a RoyalStar has more cc than our GSR. Now imagine the pressure when the piston pushes upwards into the closed valves for the compression cycle).

 

The best form of valve timing control is those timing system that is gear-driven instead of using a timing chain and springs.

I remembered one of the Ducati bike model has this. The cam that opens and closes the valves is driven by a set of gear cogs.

Literally maintenance-free as long as you keep good EO in there.

[jazzy7932]

Trust me, its not that easy.

This coming from someone who spent 2 hours taking off and installing aftermarket end cans on the GSR DIY.

 

To take the end cans off, you need to take off the rubber supports and the interlocking nut connecting the 2 brackets in the centre.

To access that, you need to take off the rear handle and tail lights assembly.

To access that, you need to take off the tail board.

To access that, you need to take off the seat.

Which needs a key.

 

Oh, forgot to mention that, even after all that, you still need to take off the mid-pipe as well coz there is tightening collar around the end cans. Cannot remove the end cans until the collar is removed.

That requires mid-pipe removal.

That requires header to be removed.

That requires radiator to be lowered.

That requires the side fairings to be removed.

Which requires a key as you need to remove the tank.

 

Plus, those who install sideracks like me, make the situation even more stickier.

 

So, you decide for yourself...

 

Hmmm....maybe my observation was wrong cos visually is like removing the nuts ard the end cans, we can pull it out with ease.....Ok..that make me feel safer..Tks!

[WildCard]

It will be your battery or rectifier ,btw revving while during cold start can do harm to your bike,plus what i also encounter during cold starts is that my bike will feel a bit sluggish,but still the bike will idle it'self up to 1.1k~1.2k.free maintenace battery can last you 2 years is good enufff liao.go to ur mech to check the battery.

 

Battery has nothing to do with the bike once your started your bike.

Its sole purpose is to start the bike. After that it just sits there collecting back the electrical juice it expended starting your bike using the built-in trickle charger (unless you are like Razi and his collection of electronic gadgets all linked to the battery).

 

A properly used battery has a theoretical lifespan of about 5 years.

In reality its closer to about 3+ years.

I managed to use mine for 3.5 years before I finally changed and I had no issues every morning.

 

Recently, the weather has been rather cold. If you look around, you notice that even if there were no rain for the night till morning, its cold enough condensation will form of most surfaces.

Now imagine, in the spark plug cap, such condensation forming.

You have problems with the electrical conductivity in the plug cap.

 

I had this problem years back with my TLR.

Cold mornings, my idling will slowly die down. Several times even one of the pistons will die out and I have a TL500 instead of a TL1000.

I read up on the solution from riders in US when they face similar issues in their winter season

 

Try this solution I used when I had similar problems with cold starts on extremely cold / wet weather we are facing right now:

Go to a good hardware store (those big ones along Kelantan Lane or Bendemeer area) and ask for dielectric grease.

Not any type of grease. Not electrical connector / contact cleaner. Not WD40. Dielectric grease.

Make sure that product has specs for good waterproofing, good electrical conductivity while having good heat insulation / resistance.

Take off your spark plug caps and apply a reasonable coat of the grease on the spark plug area where it goes connects to the cap (Don't be an arse to put it around the spark gap portion).

Give it a go.

 

 

This was what I used before:

http://www.shoplet.com/office/limages/692-21030.EPS.jpg

Costs like $4.95 at HomeFix DIY. But they don't carry it anymore I think.

 

You can refer to this thread if you want to know more sources:

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137787

[Bone-Eticz]

Check with U all regarding my GSR, after a cold start, sometimes the rpm will go down to 5-600 only and eventually stall, I got to hold the throttle a bit to rev it to 3-4k after start up for 10 over secs then the bike will idle swee swee at 1.2k rpm . Could it be the raining nights? This happen for about 5-6 times already and the new set of plugs had just gone through for less then a 1000km.

 

Sometimes during cold start , straight away it will idle at 1.2k rpm already.

 

Whats the possible cause of it? Old battery will cause this symptom? 2.5 yrs not yet change

 

For This Kind of Cases U need to adjust the Cold start idler, Chances are when u said 5-600Rpm is too Low to start off with...Mine adjusted, start it will Jump to 1.2 - 1.3 rpm for 5 secs then it will drop to 1.1 rpm

& idle it to min of 3mins or so after temp is good enough say around 55 -57c Say alil' bit of Prayers before riddin then off u go...

 

Cheerio mate...

[EJ]

mine will run at 2000rpm. hehe

[hamsterwhale]

whose the guy with a gianelli pipe???

 

saw him on SLE while i was heading home, he seems to be staying at either woodlands or Bkt panjang area....hmmmm

 

2nd time to see him....friendly rider....

Edited November 14, 2009 by hamsterwhale

[VidaK]

whose the guy with a gianelli pipe???

 

yea... one of the gsr sounded extra sweet last night

[hamsterwhale]

yea... one of the gsr sounded extra sweet last night

 

alamak that one is Use he moolah, not gianelli.....

[levin]

It will be your battery or rectifier ,btw revving while during cold start can do harm to your bike,plus what i also encounter during cold starts is that my bike will feel a bit sluggish,but still the bike will idle it'self up to 1.1k~1.2k.free maintenace battery can last you 2 years is good enufff liao.go to ur mech to check the battery.

 

Battery has nothing to do with the bike once your started your bike.

Its sole purpose is to start the bike. After that it just sits there collecting back the electrical juice it expended starting your bike using the built-in trickle charger (unless you are like Razi and his collection of electronic gadgets all linked to the battery).

 

A properly used battery has a theoretical lifespan of about 5 years.

In reality its closer to about 3+ years.

I managed to use mine for 3.5 years before I finally changed and I had no issues every morning.

 

Recently, the weather has been rather cold. If you look around, you notice that even if there were no rain for the night till morning, its cold enough condensation will form of most surfaces.

Now imagine, in the spark plug cap, such condensation forming.

You have problems with the electrical conductivity in the plug cap.

 

I had this problem years back with my TLR.

Cold mornings, my idling will slowly die down. Several times even one of the pistons will die out and I have a TL500 instead of a TL1000.

I read up on the solution from riders in US when they face similar issues in their winter season

 

Try this solution I used when I had similar problems with cold starts on extremely cold / wet weather we are facing right now:

Go to a good hardware store (those big ones along Kelantan Lane or Bendemeer area) and ask for dielectric grease.

Not any type of grease. Not electrical connector / contact cleaner. Not WD40. Dielectric grease.

Make sure that product has specs for good waterproofing, good electrical conductivity while having good heat insulation / resistance.

Take off your spark plug caps and apply a reasonable coat of the grease on the spark plug area where it goes connects to the cap (Don't be an arse to put it around the spark gap portion).

Give it a go.

 

 

This was what I used before:

http://www.shoplet.com/office/limages/692-21030.EPS.jpg

Costs like $4.95 at HomeFix DIY. But they don't carry it anymore I think.

 

You can refer to this thread if you want to know more sources:

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137787

 

 

Thanks guys for the tips.

 

For This Kind of Cases U need to adjust the Cold start idler, Chances are when u said 5-600Rpm is too Low to start off with...Mine adjusted, start it will Jump to 1.2 - 1.3 rpm for 5 secs then it will drop to 1.1 rpm

& idle it to min of 3mins or so after temp is good enough say around 55 -57c Say alil' bit of Prayers before riddin then off u go...

 

Cheerio mate...

 

 

Ok will try on the fast idle to see how 1st.

Edited November 14, 2009 by levin

[money6136]

Where to get good raincoats.. Cheap n good!! Mine is given by bikeshop, cannot make it.. All wet..

[yiheng01]

Hi to all suzuki bros. i would like to ask if suzuki 600 worth buying at 9k ? 2 year bike.

[IvikaRazI]

Where to get good raincoats.. Cheap n good!! Mine is given by bikeshop, cannot make it.. All wet..

 

Very contradicting. Good and cheap. BUT if good to always buy new one will be cheap. Hahaha

 

Been using RS Taichi Dry Master....its good......At the end of the journey, still feel cool and water-free.

 

Hi to all suzuki bros. i would like to ask if suzuki 600 worth buying at 9k ? 2 year bike.

 

Price check seems OK. Its around that region. Feel, touch and visual check dunno how hahaha. You need to judge yourself.

[Guest motofreak]

Hi to all suzuki bros. i would like to ask if suzuki 600 worth buying at 9k ? 2 year bike.

 

Price is reasonable but does it comes with accessories?

Do you know its history?

[Guest motofreak]

Where to get good raincoats.. Cheap n good!! Mine is given by bikeshop, cannot make it.. All wet..

 

My Ah Boy ProGrip raincoat has been with me since 2007. It still keeps me dry. And its jus $50

[flareon1982]

Met up with a bunch of GSR riders and encik dinie at JBP and then GP esso. Hope the FJR gets sorted out, the DR on our side was fixed...it'll work till at least a visit to the workshop haha.

 

Hey man. THanks for the concern. It was sorted out sweetly. Batt is flat thats why died. My fault for leaving it on without the bike started. Good to hear the DR is fine now. Ride safe and hope to meet you guys again.

 

BTW, why is dinie Encik ah. Old man liao issit haha

[flareon1982]

HELLO GSR RIDERS hopefully tomorrow i will be a new GSR rider hehehe. Wish to know and share more info on this wonderful bike i've suddenly fallen in love with heheheh.

 

Congrats so you got ur bike yet?

[WildCard]

Hi to all suzuki bros. i would like to ask if suzuki 600 worth buying at 9k ? 2 year bike.

 

Interested in a 3-year old GSR600 but with pipes, custom tuned, siderack and bunch of other accessories for that price?

[Guest motofreak]

Feel like goin Mustafa. Look look see see. So bored at home... hahahahahha..... Any1 intrested? Ard 10++ or 11pm

[Dark Lord]

Interested in a 3-year old GSR600 but with pipes, custom tuned, siderack and bunch of other accessories for that price?

 

Ehk??

Tot someone decided not to sell??

[Guest motofreak]

Ehk??

Tot someone decided not to sell??

 

Like many of us said. He's fickle minded. Decide to sell just sell. Decide to keep then keep. If he sold his bike for 9k then he can instantly take over the ST11

[-PiE-]

Part 2 of PIE'S Wedding INVI!!!

 

Okay guys.. among the 21 gsr n ex gsr riders, anyone willing to be my bike escort on tt day?

I would love all 21 la, but i noe some can't really make it.

So the details is as follows.. :

 

Date: 10th Jan 2010

Time: Fall in at 12pm so u can eat first and those who are late.(TBA)

Escort commence: 1pm

 

Starting point: BLK 661 Woodlans Ring Road.

 

Journey: Start Point : Woodlands Ave 12 : Gambas : Yishun Ave 7 : Yishun Ave 2 : Yishun Ring Road : Yishun Ave 4 : End Point

 

End Point: BLK 866 Yishun St 81.

 

& same route back.

 

Distance Covered : Est 8km + 8km.

 

-U'll be paid with food to eat on both sides. my side n her side.

-if u wan kisses from me.. haha! teh at simpang per person at most.. hehe!

 

I do need ur sincere help my bro's..

So pls help..:pity:

 

..::: Escort Party :::..

1)EJ (i've got no issues as my leave will be replenished by then)

2)Testamant(will apply leave on the day) we will support you bro.....

3)WildCard (Insya'Allah I will be there. By Jan no longer kena weekend work anymore....)

4)Motofreak.(as long as no ops)

5) Putra -

6) Airwolf (should be ok, I come back on 7th though, so I might not know what telah happened then)

7)porridge87

8) Seraph (Wheee!)

9) AhGui (I promise during BBQ to escort..... Time to bring out the 10K RPM again)

10)NazAdidas (me no problem as my company say orang gila je keje sunday enjoy!) *only hardworking, high stamina n energetic ppl work on Sun

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MORE MORE MORE!!!

[-PiE-]

HTNS Chalet are all out. guess either u do gov chalet or bbq.

[-PiE-]

HTNS chalet all all booked. either public chalet or do bbq.. bbq i think best dec. haha!

[-PiE-]

HTNS chalet all all booked. either public chalet or do bbq..

[juzme81]

Dear all GSR owners & fans,

 

currently i looking at gsr600 and fz6n

 

below are the comparision on both bikes.

anyone have the FC between this 2 bikes?

 

both are gd bikes....

 

Outlook...

GSR Gd riding posture (tink the FZ6 lose out on tis)

GSR has an inbuilt Gear indicator (FZ6 dun have)

GSR better out look (both are nice but GSR outshine by a bit more)

 

Performance wise (stock vs stock)

Pick up GSR is very gd!!!

top speed wise FZ6 is better!!!

but can be done by changing spockets lol

both are gd engine...

FZ6 is a R606 detune

GSR is a prototype of B king....

 

Resales value....

FZ6 win tis hands down....

regardless owner to owner or to shop....

Yamaha fetch better value always....

ps: personal pt of view .... pls dun quote mi....

 

Spare parts support....

FZ6 win

Cheaper spares always than suzuki...

& Suzuki agent Guan hoe kinda struck up....

Example: 1 of my ex colleague rode a gsr, he had a fell & had to replace the left pillion footrest bracket ....

Replacement cost $280 to $300+++

 

PERSONAL POINT OF VIEW!!!!!

Get the FZ6N ...

more accessories...

more value for $$$