SBF Classic Vespa's Cafe 2009 / 2010

[Sharpey]

Fuel comp is obviously higher... you won't get more power and better fuel consumption unless you install one of those miracle voltage stabiliser devises HAH!

 

Its not much higher though.... (mind you, the new version will be... main jets in the region of 140-150!!!) yikes.

[-ResiDue-]

ooooooooo....

i can't visualise the main jets..

well, do help me with the jetting if you could..

kos i really do think i hear pinging at high speeds....

[Gweester]

140-150 main jets?? thats huge dude!!!

[-ResiDue-]

wah, my thumb got bitten by something while riding yest morning...

filtering off from BKE to KJE..

now to day swollen.....

chialat

gwee, you riding ur vespa already right?

[Sharpey]

yah! Huge is the word... AL says you can wave goodbuy to fuel economy with the new Vortex and its massive filtered airbox top (basically the entire black airbox top has been made into a filter.... allow huuuuge airflow, thus necessitating huuuuuge main jets)... Don't think I'll be getting one though!

[Sharpey]

Cephelix... wear gloves, they'll protect your hands from all sorts of things

 

Happy to help with the jetting.... just take it easy till then.

[-ResiDue-]

*waves goodbye to fuel economy*

[Gweester]

cephelix, my scoots are still in restoration....not done yet.....probably another 2 weeks time....yeah...u better equip urself with gloves...invest in a pair of good gloves...it protect and keeps your skin intact during falls....*touch wood*

 

Sharpey, these vortex carbs are addictive huh? keep you always gtg back to them...hahahaha...

140-150 is way too big though with the whole air box all filtered, it should be a fantastic piece of accessories....guess your current carbs are sufficient....unless you intend to mod your scoots to racing mode....got pix?

[machine k]

gweester, so we won't get to see your vespa on the 12th? BB instead? haha

 

yeah, sharpey mentioned the vortex carbs during the last meet, now still on it, must be really powerful and addictive . 140-150 is crazy man... i wonder how will it sound like too... endless rev

[-ResiDue-]

advice noted gwee...

in 2 weeks?hoping to see your scoot actually...

n everybody's scoot also!

then i test ride...

ahahahaha...

[Sharpey]

This is what Peril from stellaspeed has to say about it (the new box top will work with the older vortex carb)

 

James, I can't remember the price of the new carb top, paid Al by Paypal, think it was only $35 US incl. shipping.

 

The filter area is twice the Mk 1 Laughing

 

Crazy, lucky I have a set of main jets up to 138 here. I was thinking of going to a BE3 mixer rather than the BE4 just to lean things out and at the same time use a slightly larger main jet but I'm suspicious that with this new filtera 140 with BE3 may not be enough! This filter may force me to stay with a BE4 mixer because it will need more fuel!

 

Filter area is 10 cm by 5cm Cool Finished in matt black, I have some red enamel left so it will get the go faster re treatment

 

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3472/p1000626yp6.jpg

[Gweester]

Originally posted by Sharpey@January 04, 2007 12:11 pm

This is what Peril from stellaspeed has to say about it (the new box top will work with the older vortex carb)

 

 

 

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3472/p1000626yp6.jpg

if the new top box work for the old ones, are you considering it?

might be a good fix...what is the biggest main jet available here?

heeheehee....i think you must be tempted...

[Gweester]

don't know whether my scoots will be in time for the meetup....

if not, then you might see my bb instead...probably can dress it up like a scoot!!! ahahahha!!! then can fit in the scoots community mah...

 

BTW do anyone here know where to get those cable wraps for your speedo cable and front brake cables?

i think they are spiral cable wraps....looking for white and red ones....

[azahoneystar]

hey...

 

i wana remove my rear wheel cos i wana spray my rims.

juz take out e 5 nuts n e wheel wud b out rite?

fixing back is e same ting rite?

cos i hev a phobia of e back wheel dropping out while im riding

cos it happened b4 2 my father's fren. haha..

 

n i always c u guys talking abt changing to a 24/24 carburettor.

i wana change too. but wads it for? mine is e px150 stock one.

 

any other recomendations to make e engine better?

 

thx...

[Sharpey]

Gweester... sure its tempting.... and for 35USD might be worth trying.... want to see how badly it affects Fuel consumption on other scoots first though...

 

 

Azahoneystar....

 

Yes, remove the nuts, thats it.

 

 

A 24/24 carb is just a bigger carb than you have now (20/20) it will allow more air and fuel to enter your cylinder and provided you have an operated/tong/copperpipe (all the same) exhaust, you'll get a decent speed boost.

 

BUT... changing the carb isn't just as simple as unbolt old, bolt in new... You'll need to match your carb airbox (the box the carb is bolted to) to your new carb (the hole into the engine is bigger)... you'll also need to experiment with jetting, as you'll need a richer mix.

 

For 80 bucks or so new, plus 15 for a few main jets... and maybe 20 for installation (unless you're brave enough to do it yourself) its a potentially cheap upgrade for a 150.

 

What's in your engine at the moment... hard to say how to make it better if we don't know what it has already....

[-ResiDue-]

gwee...bb??

the cable wraps i think aj might have kos i saw a scoot down there with the thing u were talking about....

i can help u ask if u want..or u could just call them up...

67466785

[reddy]

Originally posted by cephelix@January 04, 2007 12:04 am

but see how things go first....

 

must learn to e-brake on the scoot.....

and my stopping distance is quite far....

is it normal?

and if in high rpms, if i change to 1st gear, then my rear tyre would skid a bit.

normal?

now, the only thing i scared is turning to sharply n the stopping...

 

cheers!...

you guys will see a beat up but running efficiently black scoot during the meetup

u dont drop gear to the first when u braking from high speed. it will cause ya tyre to skidd not forgetting damaging ya engine internal. just drop a gear down and the most to second gear. thats what i do anyway. when u completely stop or slowed down real slow den u changed the gear to the first one.

as for e brake. its norm for scooter to have a bigger stopping distance cos of our braking system. dont forget to add dropping of gears if u can when doing the e brake. and the last resort is to press the front brake, u dont wanna end up superman-ning on the road..

my 2 cents

cheers

[-ResiDue-]

thanx reddy for the info...realised the skidding thing and am trying to unlearn it...

n every mechanic also told me that scoots dont usually use front brake unless u want to superman.....

[azahoneystar]

ok thx for enlightening me sharpey...

n yea my pipe is the tong one wif e copper fitting.

gona chnge my carb n get e pinasco alloy block n piston kit.

 

n hey if i take out e 5 nuts of e rear wheel, will e drum come off too?

i wana spray tt too. isit possible? how to take out? cant seem to find a tutorial abt it online..

 

take a look at e vespa seat at e link below. looks damn comfy.

wanna get it ah...

http://www.wheelsport.on.ca/graphics/vintage/79vespa.jpg:

[-ResiDue-]

aza! > yeah, the seat looks plenty comfy....

can sit n dont want to get up..

but must protect also..

protect from cats n cheapo ppl who would try to steal your seats...

 

rims? can paint...

just ask the shop to do it....

[Sharpey]

That seat is called the king & queen seat.... if you like the looks I guess its great... Folks say that the comfiest seat is the latest px seat that comes on all new px's... I dunno

 

Come to the meetup and see my pinasco... got a special cylinderhead from worb5 in Germany... the one that comes with the pinasco kit is notoriously hard to jet for thanks to a huge 3mm squish clearance... the Worb5 head gets it down to a more managaeble 1.7mm or so...

 

No the drum won't come off.... its secured by a big nut in the middle of the rear hub.

[-ResiDue-]

yeah!..my vespa is breaking apart piece by piece..

the mainstand spring gave way today..

as well as the hole that allows the spring to hook to the mainstand in the first place...

it was raining, it was late..

i tried unscrewing the mainstand t no avail...finally, i had to attach a lanyard to one side of my mainstand leg n tie it to the loop beneath my seat....

now, i'm gonna be riding like this till saturday the 13th..

oh joy!

[machine k]

ooo, finally some 'inactivity'... found the classic thread lying so low at the bottom

 

cephelix, why your scoot and you so dramatic one. so much adventures

[-ResiDue-]

ahahaha..finally someone posted!

thank god!!!..

been waiting all morning for someone to post....

fell asleep infront of my comp at work kos nobody posted!

(but that could be partially due to the fact that i slept at 2 this morning)

machine > i have no idea....

> probably kos my brother never really took care of the little things n it was just their time to break

> so i'll be the one replacing more stuff...

> this mnth can't change anything..have to save more for my anniversary dinner!

> at most changing tyre n replacing all the rusty bolts n screws....n repairing mainstand...

>anybody got exp with continental tyres?are they any good?

[Sharpey]

continental zippy 1 tyres are as good as bridgestone battalax....