why change gear so hard to kick?

[astrorion]

I have just change my EO mutol full sync. Now is 2k after servicing. why the gear is so hard to kick?

[Ah Pek]

Clutch cable adjustment helps. I know ppl been talking about oil giving smoother gear changing but that is only very partial.

[299]

Could be due to worn out clutch plates.

[astrorion]

i am not so sure as i have change my clutch in oct. so fast worn out?

[hellsfury]

dude check your clutch freeplay adjustments. if its hard to change, try setting more free play on the clutch, ie, clutch-engine engagement further away. it worked for me. or, spray some wd-40 at the footrest gears. try doing these first cos its all free

[astrorion]

dude check your clutch freeplay adjustments. if its hard to change, try setting more free play on the clutch, ie, clutch-engine engagement further away. it worked for me. or, spray some wd-40 at the footrest gears. try doing these first cos its all free

 

Yes WD40 spread to the footrest is done before and it does not work at all. Freeplay adjust almost to almost fully. So now my palm is almost wide open to clutch in

[Ah Pek]

Freeplay adjust almost to almost fully

 

What about the clutch cable free play adjustment of the lower one?(not the handle side)...did you use that? If so and it is almost to the end, afraid your clutch wear out liao.

[astrorion]

thanks everyone, i think i need to change the clutch cable and see how.

[edwardthy]

For which bike? Haya? Seems like yr siggy is haya bike..

[Ah Pek]

HayaSusa use clutch cable mei?...thought such power monster uses hydraulic clutch.

[bigboystoys]

I have just change my EO mutol full sync. Now is 2k after servicing. why the gear is so hard to kick?

 

before oil change, was it as hard to engage gears?

 

if the problem only arise after you change oil, then it's probably the difference in viscosity, condition and mileage of the oil

 

 

and when you change gears, is it with clutch or clutchless?

if you find it really hard to engage gears when you shift clutchless, then it's not really the clutch lever freeplay or clutch plates worn out

 

 

try to give us more scenarios and exactly how and what happen

it'll help us narrow down to exactly what is your problem...

 

 

hope it helps

[E.M]

like to ask when i try to down gear, the gear lever move down but i can't seem to down gear. it happen also sometimes when i try to up gear.. but most of the time it happen when i down gear.. any help on this?? clutch plate or clutch cable problem ??

[Ah Pek]

like to ask when i try to down gear, the gear lever move down but i can't seem to down gear. it happen also sometimes when i try to up gear.. but most of the time it happen when i down gear.. any help on this?? clutch plate or clutch cable problem ??

 

Do check your gear shift level first. The clam part that lock by a lock nut to your level shaft may be loose or even missing. have it tighten if it is othrwise, all the "teeth" for both lever and shaft is gonna get smoothen. Other than this...not sure whatesle can possibly be wrong.

[E.M]

Do check your gear shift level first. The clam part that lock by a lock nut to your level shaft may be loose or even missing. have it tighten if it is othrwise, all the "teeth" for both lever and shaft is gonna get smoothen. Other than this...not sure whatesle can possibly be wrong.

 

 

erm... not sure of the part u talking abt... the portion b4 the foot rest??

[Ah_Ben]

refer to picture please.

[Ah_Ben]

I have just change my EO mutol full sync. Now is 2k after servicing. why the gear is so hard to kick?

 

1) over top up of EO.

2) incomplete depression of clutch lever. (freeplay or worn clutch cable)

3) worn clutch plates.

4) improper gear clearance. (inside gearbox)

5) worn gears.

 

Most common being from 1 to 5.

 

Other issue you might wanna check could be

1) entangled clutch cable.

2) improperly secured gear lever.

[wait4me]

doe the sprocket affect the gears??

[Ah_Ben]

doe the sprocket affect the gears??

 

no...

the gears which i refered to are those which are inside your gearbox.

 

refer to attached for clearer understanding.

Improper clearance are like... if two gears are very close to each other without allowance, it will be very difficult to "squeeze" the teeth to sit together. Hence the cause of a tough gear change.

[Ah Pek]

erm... not sure of the part u talking abt... the portion b4 the foot rest??

Thanks Ah_Ben for that image for E.M...here is another one from my S4. May be I should had mentioned it as gear shift linkage...guess visual speaks better here.

 

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[E.M]

ok thanks Ben n ah pek will go see how is it den hope it solve the problem.

[Ah_Ben]

eh.. i no longer ride a spec3...

wife nags at my riding techniques and complains alot...

 

Hence downgraded to RX-K135.

 

E.M if ya need help... just pop me pm ba... =)

[buttbutt8]

dude check your clutch freeplay adjustments. if its hard to change, try setting more free play on the clutch, ie, clutch-engine engagement further away. it worked for me. or, spray some wd-40 at the footrest gears. try doing these first cos its all free

 

hi, to adjust the free play of clutch need tools?? Coz i cant seem to be able to unscrew the round lock nut at the clutch of my spec 3.

[Odaska_wandi]

ques= ive got a ques to ask u guyz...when im moving of my 1st&2nd gear has a knocking noise,the rest of my 3th gear& above has no sound...not sure where it frm..but it sound like somewhere near the balley there of frm engine juz not too sure...gear engaging all no prob...

[Ah Pek]

cant seem to be able to unscrew the round lock nut at the clutch of my spec 3

 

For tool if you need..jsut a plier wide enough to grip the diameter of the lock nut..probably it may have some rust..any WD4d type penetrating lube should help. If no plier, use a cotton type cloth and fold an extra layer and have a good grip and turn..turning it out is anti-clockwise.

 

moving of my 1st&2nd gear has a knocking noise,the rest of my 3th gear& above has no sound

 

I think more likely its something loose..could even be engine mount to body bolt. However do try and see if it comes again when bike is running stationary. If you have double stand..let the engine run and change into 1st and 2nd gear and see if you can zero into where the sound is coming from..it help us to help you troubleshoot.

[Ah_Ben]

ques= ive got a ques to ask u guyz...when im moving of my 1st&2nd gear has a knocking noise,the rest of my 3th gear& above has no sound...not sure where it frm..but it sound like somewhere near the balley there of frm engine juz not too sure...gear engaging all no prob...

 

Could it be ur drive chain too loose?

Could it be the bracket thats holding your crash bar not secure correctly?

think could be above or some loose nuts or screws...