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Cpt.ZR · December 25, 2008

But IMO SP's sound is the nicest among all the 2b 2 strokes. The rest are too piercing, even RS125

But when you compare a 2 stroke with a 4 stroke of the same cc, i won't say that it is no power anymore

the worst is rxz la..damn noisy. but to me i think the nicest 2b sports bike is KRR, apart from the 2 stroke and noisyness i think its ok leh.. but the insurance kills.. i like it because its light, powerful and keeping it stock alone is enough already...

also, i think tzm is one hell of an weird and ugly bike. lol

with the amount spent on the 2 strokes. Why not a 4 stroke 2a bike?

maybe, but 2a no 2 stroke la only got the nsr250 pgm and rd 350 which is all soooooo old schooll.. when u peh the valve may just break and disintegrate. lol

but 2 stroke is fun lo. just pure senseless fast and dangerous fun.

jB · December 25, 2008

the worst is rxz la..damn noisy. but to me i think the nicest 2b sports bike is KRR, apart from the 2 stroke and noisyness i think its ok leh.. but the insurance kills.. i like it because its light, powerful and keeping it stock alone is enough already...

also, i think tzm is one hell of an weird and ugly bike. lol

It depends dude, owners might have did something to their pipes before. They all come with "tamed" pipes if you didn't know till now. Just like why some CBR150 can get quite irritating also. If they(the pipes) are left untouched, then its up to the note of which they emit. Rxz has 2 versions of their end can if I'm not wrong. The Latter being the much proclaimed "weaker" component.

Ps: Tzm is one of the Jap bikes that can Tia SP if you also didn't know. Then we talk about the rider playing a part.

maybe, but 2a no 2 stroke la only got the nsr250 pgm and rd 350 which is all soooooo old schooll.. when u peh the valve may just break and disintegrate. lol

but 2 stroke is fun lo. just pure senseless fast and dangerous fun.

You left out many others dude if you wanna talk about Rd350. There's also Rs250 and a few more which you should know. Why the valve would disintegrate if its not just wear and tear? did you know some RVF400/Nsr150/Tzm/Krr/Lc135/Rxz/125z is also as old as some of them oldies bike which still can last till today? Its because of the previous owner's care for it. You can buy a new 1st hand bike and it needs to be overhauled after 15k mileage or less if you are one bugger.

Cheers and Merry X'mas dude Don't drink and ride!

Cpt.ZR · December 25, 2008

It depends dude, owners might have did something to their pipes before. They all come with "tamed" pipes if you didn't know till now. Just like why some CBR150 can get quite irritating also. If they(the pipes) are left untouched, then its up to the note of which they emit. Rxz has 2 versions of their end can if I'm not wrong. The Latter being the much proclaimed "weaker" component.

Ps: Tzm is one of the Jap bikes that can Tia SP if you also didn't know. Then we talk about the rider playing a part.

ha. All these bikes are sooooo old already, many moons, suns, rains passed, even though its being overhauled repaired and stuff liek tat, its performance will never be the same as before.

TZM tia SP tia krr, is not even important, its just an small 2b bike for newbies to try their hands on. by saying this kind of things jsut stir up the hormones in some younger riders and leading them to crashing and up-ing the insurance which I have to pay ...

You left out many others dude if you wanna talk about Rd350. There's also Rs250 and a few more which you should know. Why the valve would disintegrate if its not just wear and tear? did you know some RVF400/Nsr150/Tzm/Krr/Lc135/Rxz/125z is also as old as some of them oldies bike which still can last till today? Its because of the previous owner's care for it. You can buy a new 1st hand bike and it needs to be overhauled after 15k mileage or less if you are one bugger.

Cheers and Merry X'mas dude Don't drink and ride!

Srsly speaking, old bike have quite afew irrritating problems one, no matter how much $ u pour into an old bike because of love, it will still give you probs. Take for example me, i used to own a 26 year old bike. Due to my weight and stuff, i hardly exceed 80kmh. I wash it, lube it change EO regularly, check this and that spend $$ on reparing, in the end the $$ spend is more than what my bike is worth, yet it runs well for 5 days, take MC for 1 day.

luckyly i not a hardcore rider... if not proly the bike will die liao. Am not trying to poke back at you jB, but i think no matter how much $ is spend on a 2 stroke its gg to go one day. So is the same for 4 strokies. Cause our engines are designed to work at high RPM, unlike cars, even though cars also the same thing, get a 60's A.Martin Db 5, modernise it, it will still burn up overheat and give attitude after 2 hrs of 100kmh ride.

no matter how much we debate, the facts remains, don't believe can try lo, F 3*** J

jB · December 26, 2008

ha. All these bikes are sooooo old already, many moons, suns, rains passed, even though its being overhauled repaired and stuff liek tat, its performance will never be the same as before.

old are good, condition depends. When you start riding class 2, you'll understand why there are still many going after old cl2,2a,2b bikes for their power. And their bikes are 1/2 your age or more and still running strong on the road, some even to the 299 era

TZM tia SP tia krr, is not even important, its just an small 2b bike for newbies to try their hands on. by saying this kind of things jsut stir up the hormones in some younger riders and leading them to crashing and up-ing the insurance which I have to pay ...

kids will be kids. I won't **** on noobs because I was once one myself.

Srsly speaking, old bike have quite afew irrritating problems one, no matter how much $ u pour into an old bike because of love, it will still give you probs. Take for example me, i used to own a 26 year old bike. Due to my weight and stuff, i hardly exceed 80kmh. I wash it, lube it change EO regularly, check this and that spend $$ on reparing, in the end the $$ spend is more than what my bike is worth, yet it runs well for 5 days, take MC for 1 day.

It depends on the owner. Ever see those bikes as old/older than yours and still running strong carrying goods?

luckyly i not a hardcore rider... if not proly the bike will die liao. Am not trying to poke back at you jB, but i think no matter how much $ is spend on a 2 stroke its gg to go one day. So is the same for 4 strokies. Cause our engines are designed to work at high RPM, unlike cars, even though cars also the same thing, get a 60's A.Martin Db 5, modernise it, it will still burn up overheat and give attitude after 2 hrs of 100kmh ride.

no matter how much we debate, the facts remains, don't believe can try lo, F 3*** J
You can't poke me, I'm straight dude.

I won't say I'm not a hardcore rider, I believe I'll be lying like a guniang if I say I'm not hardcore for there are times we need to whack the bikes when its under our care. Unless its really a guniang holding the throttle.

They work till certain rpm before they are restricted. Same for cars if you've understand and owned them yourself. Continue reading online, they'll still be theoritical facts. Own them, then you can declare that which are the facts.

It still boils down to who's the driver/owner/rider.

mab · December 26, 2008

also, i think tzm is one hell of an weird and ugly bike.

To each his own. I own one.

And i have never had more fun on a bike before.

Kevs · December 26, 2008

actually, we were young once.

all the hype when we just passed, the glee on the face when we finally get the chance to ride our 2B dream bike, who wouldnt be more happy?

then there's the temptation to see how fast it goes, who wouldnt try?

then, comes the time to upgrade, oh goodie, finally can hv a faster machine, die die oso must hv the hands on a minimum 250cc..

but as one grows older, also wiser(or still...). one would try not to repeat same mistakes once made, ain it?

as the years rolls by, tastes & time changes, a bigger, faster, 2 wheels the way right? minimum 500cc...

i believe by this time, experience has been gained, but never ending.

jB's right, its not the ride, the bike or anything else, it all just boils down to the rider itself.

set in the right mindset, right mood, give it any bike, it'll be pleasureable, no matter how.

of cos, knowing the costs of hw deep the pocket will be burn when the machine decides to take mc, one would defitnitely be more cautious to maintain the machine, unless, he/she is sponsored...

so, if the rider knows how to tk care of the machine, it'll literally tk care the rider back...

dun understand my blabbering? nvm, im just going bonkers...

Cpt.ZR · December 26, 2008

old are good, condition depends. When you start riding class 2, you'll understand why there are still many going after old cl2,2a,2b bikes for their power. And their bikes are 1/2 your age or more and still running strong on the road, some even to the 299 era

kids will be kids. I won't **** on noobs because I was once one myself.

It depends on the owner. Ever see those bikes as old/older than yours and still running strong carrying goods?

well like what u have said earlier ma. I can only comment if i have owned one, yes i do own one, thats why i am saying, but i have my fair share of looking at lao kok [2 T] bike running around, but I havent seen any bike that is more than 30 years old still doing transportation. even the K i saw at certain areas at Jln besar, china town, they are all younger than my older bike, i went to talk to the ah peh, they stared at me like one kind. Maybe you say it boils down to the owner, true, I maintained it kept it in tip top condition yet it still fails me..

I'm really at wits ends sometimes..

some ah peh's bike which u see running on the road, the ah pek is prolly older than me and JB combined.. why their bike can still ferry them ard? is because when you look close up on the bike, you can see how rough their bike is, the cltuches are slipping and yet the ah peh dont care. the main reason? because they don't care! they just keep using lo, our bikes also can what, only some of us are more anal then others..

maybe he is just gg to wait for coe times up then buy a new one? The last time i saw a AX plate rxk too, I was at tuas, i went up with him and talked to him, then i realised how terrible his bike is. he told me, 'this K ah? throw away lo. I'm old anyway, after the bike coe finish i give govment take metal lo'

hahaha. nayway i also lost on what i am saying la. sometimes i really pity some ah pek's bike. thrashed really badly, engine giving way soon, and they are still pushing it, because i think they dont care about it already,

as for the TZM, I don't mean to offend you or anyone, to my opinion its abit off, but to you it maybe not, so pls dont get offended. And it is true that 2 strokes are hell of a fun bike.. you can practically fly on that bike.. but i think 4 strokes fit me better.

Bay · December 26, 2008

To each his own. I own one.

And i have never had more fun on a bike before.

:(:(:(:(

as for the TZM, I don't mean to offend you or anyone, to my opinion its abit off, but to you it maybe not, so pls dont get offended. And it is true that 2 strokes are hell of a fun bike.. you can practically fly on that bike.. but i think 4 strokes fit me better.

Yea, though 2 strokies are fun to ride and fast but i guess if you are those that go for comfort and practical bikes, 4 stroke are still better.

jB · December 26, 2008

well like what u have said earlier ma. I can only comment if i have owned one, yes i do own one, thats why i am saying, but i have my fair share of looking at lao kok [2 T] bike running around, but I havent seen any bike that is more than 30 years old still doing transportation. even the K i saw at certain areas at Jln besar, china town, they are all younger than my older bike, i went to talk to the ah peh, they stared at me like one kind. Maybe you say it boils down to the owner, true, I maintained it kept it in tip top condition yet it still fails me..

I'm really at wits ends sometimes..

Of course what I said earlier is logical, else I won't bother to type so much

Those who appreciate them, be it RXK or Vespa or w/e, will like them. I on the other hand don't, except for 2 bikes; KTM & RS125. You might have taken care of it extremely well but it might be too late to salvage the situation. Its like wearing condoms after contracting AIDS.

some ah peh's bike which u see running on the road, the ah pek is prolly older than me and JB combined.. why their bike can still ferry them ard? is because when you look close up on the bike, you can see how rough their bike is, the cltuches are slipping and yet the ah peh dont care. the main reason? because they don't care! they just keep using lo, our bikes also can what, only some of us are more anal then others..

ITS jB!

go look around, you might be able to find some old bikes lesser mileage(not that it has gone a complete round) than your current new bike. Just that some aged components need replacement like Rubber which will harden or w/e.

maybe he is just gg to wait for coe times up then buy a new one? The last time i saw a AX plate rxk too, I was at tuas, i went up with him and talked to him, then i realised how terrible his bike is. he told me, 'this K ah? throw away lo. I'm old anyway, after the bike coe finish i give govment take metal lo'

They are the ones that make old bikes "old and haggard"

hahaha. nayway i also lost on what i am saying la. sometimes i really pity some ah pek's bike. thrashed really badly, engine giving way soon, and they are still pushing it, because i think they dont care about it already,

A bike lover will pity another bike if their owner abuses it

as for the TZM, I don't mean to offend you or anyone, to my opinion its abit off, but to you it maybe not, so pls dont get offended. And it is true that 2 strokes are hell of a fun bike.. you can practically fly on that bike.. but i think 4 strokes fit me better.

I'll always miss the RS I rode before, RIP.

4 strokes cl2 bikes fits me more ;]

For more nonsense like mine you can refer to another abang's beneath.

soccer tomorrow anybody? FICO!

actually, we were young once.
all the hype when we just passed, the glee on the face when we finally get the chance to ride our 2B dream bike, who wouldnt be more happy?
then there's the temptation to see how fast it goes, who wouldnt try?
then, comes the time to upgrade, oh goodie, finally can hv a faster machine, die die oso must hv the hands on a minimum 250cc..
but as one grows older, also wiser(or still...). one would try not to repeat same mistakes once made, ain it?
as the years rolls by, tastes & time changes, a bigger, faster, 2 wheels the way right? minimum 500cc...

i believe by this time, experience has been gained, but never ending.
jB's right, its not the ride, the bike or anything else, it all just boils down to the rider itself.
set in the right mindset, right mood, give it any bike, it'll be pleasureable, no matter how.
of cos, knowing the costs of hw deep the pocket will be burn when the machine decides to take mc, one would defitnitely be more cautious to maintain the machine, unless, he/she is sponsored...
so, if the rider knows how to tk care of the machine, it'll literally tk care the rider back...

dun understand my blabbering? nvm, im just going bonkers...

:(

Yea, though 2 strokies are fun to ride and fast but i guess if you are those that go for comfort and practical bikes, 4 stroke are still better.

Frankly speaking, I love quiet bikes which are fast. Like the STX or some tamed ferocious beast. If I ever had the chance to rent a NSR500 or a 1000cc bike abroad, I'll choose NSR500 w/out hesitation.

Bay · December 26, 2008

Btw jB, thanks for the christmas greeting sms.. Merry Christmas to everyone here too!

epk · December 27, 2008

2008 passed really really fast. Few more days 2009 already. Graduating soon and going army after that.

So fast.... SCARY MAN O.O

jB · December 28, 2008

Btw jB, thanks for the christmas greeting sms.. Merry Christmas to everyone here too!

don't know why your number still exist in my cellphone's SIM after I got it changed. I seem to have lost quite a few numbers of people from SBF. Even moderator sms me, I went:? blur

2008 passed really really fast. Few more days 2009 already. Graduating soon and going army after that.

So fast.... SCARY MAN O.O

time sure flies when you're above 20

Cpt.ZR · December 29, 2008

:(:(:(:(

Yea, though 2 strokies are fun to ride and fast but i guess if you are those that go for comfort and practical bikes, 4 stroke are still better.

yea yea. but maybe next time when I'm filty rich.. i would just get a 2 strokey and maybe whack the hell out of it. haha.

well, re-live the younger years la! haha.. fun what!

Btw jB, thanks for the christmas greeting sms.. Merry Christmas to everyone here too!

ya lo ya lo. thanks lei JB! haha!

2008 passed really really fast. Few more days 2009 already. Graduating soon and going army after that.

So fast.... SCARY MAN O.O

yeap. 1 more year.. 1 more new class! I'm taking 2a! and the s4 is really quite scary... but fun lei!

don't know why your number still exist in my cellphone's SIM after I got it changed. I seem to have lost quite a few numbers of people from SBF. Even moderator sms me, I went:? blur

time sure flies when you're above 20

haha. everyone will go thru that stage la Jb. haha how your phantom.. don't keep it at home lar. bring it out for a ride lo... pamper it abit lar! haha. at least yr phantom wifey don't complain being in the rain or under the hot sun ma! haha!

jB · December 29, 2008

ya lo ya lo. thanks lei JB! haha!

yeap. 1 more year.. 1 more new class! I'm taking 2a! and the s4 is really quite scary... but fun lei!

haha. everyone will go thru that stage la Jb. haha how your phantom.. don't keep it at home lar. bring it out for a ride lo... pamper it abit lar! haha. at least yr phantom wifey don't complain being in the rain or under the hot sun ma! haha!

its jB. Did I send greetings to you too? forgotten, I only know I sent out more than 140+ sms

S4 is easy =X ooops I'm supposed to not have 2a P plate..

its jB dude. She gets raped by me once in a blue moon to clear carbon.

Cpt.ZR · December 29, 2008

its jB. Did I send greetings to you too? forgotten, I only know I sent out more than 140+ sms

S4 is easy =X ooops I'm supposed to not have 2a P plate..

its jB dude. She gets raped by me once in a blue moon to clear carbon.

i duno leh.. i just keep telling myself don't drop the bike and i dont dare to anyhow stunt the bike cos not my bike.. lol..

but S4 vs drz.. i prefer drz lar. haha!

Bay · December 29, 2008

yea yea. but maybe next time when I'm filty rich.. i would just get a 2 strokey and maybe whack the hell out of it. haha.

well, re-live the younger years la! haha.. fun what!

yeap. 1 more year.. 1 more new class! I'm taking 2a! and the s4 is really quite scary... but fun lei!

Hahaha. When i'll rich, i guess 1 Ducati 1098, 1 BMW GS1200A, 1 Harley Davidson Crossbone, 1 Harley Davidson Nightrod, 1 Goldwing, 1 Hayabusa, 1 KTM200, 1 Triumph Tiger, 1 B-King!

S4 actually still ok IMO. Cos weight wise, around the same as my bike. Power still can control.. Only scared for 2a i do some bad habits which will cause me to fail

Cpt.ZR · December 29, 2008

Hahaha. When i'll rich, i guess 1 Ducati 1098, 1 BMW GS1200A, 1 Harley Davidson Crossbone, 1 Harley Davidson Nightrod, 1 Goldwing, 1 Hayabusa, 1 KTM200, 1 Triumph Tiger, 1 B-King!

S4 actually still ok IMO. Cos weight wise, around the same as my bike. Power still can control.. Only scared for 2a i do some bad habits which will cause me to fail

hohoho.. Let go to dream land. for me if i'm rich..

1) Krr ported, polished, modded to the max.

2) Super4

3) cbr 600

4) cbr 1000

5) GSR 600

6) R1

7) Africa Twin

8) vespa

9) HONDA CUB

10) GL1800.

11) triumph bonniville

12) BSA

13) Norton

14) Vincent Lighting

15) Find and buy back all the old bikes i owned before.

4 wheels

1)A Martin Db5

2) A.Martin DB9

3) A. MArtin DBs

4) Jag XF

5) Merc C63 AMG

6) merc e55 amg

7) Ford Anglia [harry potter car]

8) Ford Cosworth

9) Land cruiser Prado

10)Landcruise FJ 40

11) Authentic US Army 1940 Willy's jeep!

the bike part still got somemore, but havent think of it yet.. cos i know i wnot get so rich in life. LOL

mab · December 29, 2008

2008 passed really really fast. Few more days 2009 already. Graduating soon and going army after that.

So fast.... SCARY MAN O.O

Cehhh, somebody's KRR power setting already, can fly ah.

i so cant wait for 2008 to be over. Looking forward to a brighter 2009.

With the years, gone are the days of the 2stroke pehh pehhh pehhhh era, when hitting 180km/h with a small capacity bike was possible.

jB · December 29, 2008

Hahaha. When i'll rich, i guess 1 Ducati 1098, 1 BMW GS1200A, 1 Harley Davidson Crossbone, 1 Harley Davidson Nightrod, 1 Goldwing, 1 Hayabusa, 1 KTM200, 1 Triumph Tiger, 1 B-King!

S4 actually still ok IMO. Cos weight wise, around the same as my bike. Power still can control.. Only scared for 2a i do some bad habits which will cause me to fail

hohoho.. Let go to dream land. for me if i'm rich..

1) Krr ported, polished, modded to the max.
2) Super4
3) cbr 600
4) cbr 1000
5) GSR 600
6) R1
7) Africa Twin
8) vespa
9) HONDA CUB
10) GL1800.
11) triumph bonniville
12) BSA
13) Norton
14) Vincent Lighting
15) Find and buy back all the old bikes i owned before.

4 wheels

1)A Martin Db5
2) A.Martin DB9
3) A. MArtin DBs
4) Jag XF
5) Merc C63 AMG
6) merc e55 amg
7) Ford Anglia [harry potter car]
8) Ford Cosworth
9) Land cruiser Prado
10)Landcruise FJ 40
11) Authentic US Army 1940 Willy's jeep!

the bike part still got somemore, but havent think of it yet.. cos i know i wnot get so rich in life. LOL

A lil realistic here,

2b- Rs125 any edition other than Milo Kong, Ktm200

2a- GsxR4, ZxR4, Pgm IV, Rs250

2 - NsR500, Zx636, GsxR6, GsxR1, ST11/STX,

3 - Lotus, GTi, Evo 8 Mr, Wrx Sti, Integra Type S, Celica, Fairlady

Only a few not achievable No Harleys/cruisers thank you.

Cpt.ZR · December 29, 2008

anyway i got a question...

what does chamber pipe means>? and by what means is it acheived?

how does a chamber pipe sound like?

jB · December 29, 2008

For 2b bikes it just sounds irritating

Bay · December 29, 2008

anyway i got a question...

what does chamber pipe means>? and by what means is it acheived?

how does a chamber pipe sound like?

For 2b bikes it just sounds irritating

LOL! I agree with you man. hahaha.

Cpt.ZR · December 29, 2008

For 2b bikes it just sounds irritating

LOL! I agree with you man. hahaha.

no but i'm curious what it does apart from the 'tong' pipe. I read about some parts and some websites, most just talk about the 2 stroke exhast the belly only nothing about the chamber pipe leh.

so apart from being irritating, what it does? and how is it done?

Bay · December 29, 2008

no but i'm curious what it does apart from the 'tong' pipe. I read about some parts and some websites, most just talk about the 2 stroke exhast the belly only nothing about the chamber pipe leh.

so apart from being irritating, what it does? and how is it done?

It helps to increase the speed of the bike if i'm not wrong.

Cpt.ZR · December 29, 2008

It helps to increase the speed of the bike if i'm not wrong.

erm yeah, but is there like any technical explaination or terms ? Cos I just wanna understand from a engineering viewpoint!

and how have you been preparing for that thai trip hehe

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