DIY HID - All About High Intensity Discharge

[paiseh]

Originally posted by FatBiker@Feb 23 2006, 10:06 AM

I think it is a Hong Kong company with factory based in GuangZhou. I am getting the HIDs directly from the factory. Quite good product I would say... bright like all HIDs susposed to be and reliable (Ken has personally tested it for a couple of months already). They provide a 1 year warranty for their HID (but shipping can be a problem for the SG users).

is it possible for u to post the company name here? (or u could use PM thanks)

 

can u confirm with me the factory is in GuangZhou?

 

by the way.. who is ken? is he in spore? would like to see the quality before i make orders?

[Guest cheeko]

Originally posted by limbat@Feb 23 2006, 03:04 PM

 

Yaaa lorrr ..... after in the HIDs & Halogen business for 10 over years, "MO = Mass Ordering" ..... will make us close shop ...... leow ...... Haizz......

 

 

Any1 got lobang for new job opening or not ???

Mr limbit, another alternative to survive is to help customers install those china HIDs & charge on workmanship instead, which is alot more troublesome & earn less, in the event the HIDs cause problem, u will get screw up only

[Guest cheeko]

Originally posted by cheeko@Feb 23 2006, 01:29 PM

wah lan..... imagine, china products can undercut Mr Limbit by $100. Like tat can close shop liao

sorry wana add another sentence,

 

undercut & still can earn profit somemore...... not bad! ah ha ha ha!!!

[Guest nE0]

China's awesome production ability at work again, crushing competitors with rock bottom prices, forcing everyone to follow suit, or outsource!

[paiseh]

Philips has patented the HIDs. Fact that HIDs are so expensive becoz producers have to pat philips $$

 

sometimes i wonder, why is it that the people(i trying not to use the word chinese) from china are able to copy things yet not get involved with the law.

 

remmeber the incident? industrial estate in China got clsoed down becoz another identical one was built next to it with much lower rate?

[wait4me]

bright ah ?

 

how much again to install

 

if blow , how?

[paiseh]

Originally posted by wait4me@Feb 23 2006, 07:33 PM

bright ah ?

 

how much again to install

 

if blow , how?

normal Halogen bulbs produce 1850 lumens (brightness)

HID can go as high as 3200 to 4000 lumens.

 

from here u can judge how bright HIDs are. $280 for a set with 1 yr wrty.

 

the set im using now is already more den 4 yrs old. it is working fine.

[ozzarhomb]

Originally posted by wait4me@Feb 23 2006, 07:33 PM

if blow , how?

change bulb lor!! :smile:

 

just take note that the bulb cost a bomb. the process of changing is just like a normal bulb.

[Guest cheeko]

Originally posted by ozzarhomb@Feb 23 2006, 11:07 PM

change bulb lor!! :smile:

 

just take note that the bulb cost a bomb. the process of changing is just like a normal bulb.

oh yes, forget this replacing of blown bulb issue...... looks like another future hidden cost to me if the price is too high Maybe somebody can give a rough price guideline.

[limbat]

Originally posted by cheeko@Feb 23 2006, 05:49 PM

Mr limbit, another alternative to survive is to help customers install those china HIDs & charge on workmanship instead, which is alot more troublesome & earn less, in the event the HIDs cause problem, u will get screw up only

 

haizzzzzz either way I loose -

[limbat]

Originally posted by nE0@Feb 23 2006, 05:58 PM

China's awesome production ability at work again, crushing competitors with rock bottom prices, forcing everyone to follow suit, or outsource!

 

yeap ....... tt seems to be the trend wif almost all products.....

[paiseh]

if im not wrong, limbat has never come across blown HID bulbs. pls correct me if im wrong Uncle Lim.

 

he has only come across faulty Ballasts.

[limbat]

yeap, I have not come across burn HIDs bulb from korea yet ! Most of the time the problems lies wif connectors & wiring, even ballast problem are rare. Unless High Tension cables are use, U will have a misfiring at the HIDs bulb set so or later.

[FatBiker]

Originally posted by paiseh@Feb 23 2006, 11:46 AM

wat u mean by 1 is HID the other is XENON? HID bulb itself is already filled with xenon gas i thought? thanks for sharing!

Sorry bro... it is a very bad typo error....

 

For H4, one bulb is HID and the other is a halogen bulb...

 

There is also a type of H4 where there is only 1 HID bulb... it uses a mechanical reflector to control the shine area.

 

FatBiker

[FatBiker]

Originally posted by limbat@Feb 23 2006, 12:49 PM

Basically wat Fatbiker meant is - HID H4H/L = the low Beam is the HID & the high beam is a Halogen. This is similar to our Zoomlite HID H4H/L HID bulb set - but U must check if Fatbiker H4H/L set - the Halogen chnage be changed when the halogen is blown. Our Zoomlite HID H4H/L - Halogen can be replaced.

 

Thanks Mr Lim... that is what I meant... one bulb Halogen the other HID..

 

The halogen can be replaced if blown... it is secured by a small screw... remove that and the bulb can be change liao

 

FatBiker

[FatBiker]

Originally posted by cheeko@Feb 23 2006, 01:29 PM

wah lan..... imagine, china products can undercut Mr Limbit by $100. Like tat can close shop liao

haha... "undercut" is a bad word to use... it should be "more economical"

 

Although the price can be SGD100 cheaper, the brand and packaging are totally different. So comparing them alaone by price might not be fair.

 

When you purchase the HID from Mr Lim... you are not only buying the product, you are also getting his expertise, experience and local support in the same package.

 

FatBiker

[FatBiker]

Originally posted by ozzarhomb@Feb 23 2006, 02:56 PM

well, gotta see the quality first i guess. :smile:

Good Point! Quality definitely plays a very important part....

 

The product had been around for at least 2 years already... I think the supplier is definitely pretty confident about their product because they are offering a 4 years local warranty on their products.

 

In China, they have service centres and resellers in major cities and they run training sessions for installers and interested owners... I do say that that is a lot of effort to back up their product!

 

FatBiker

[FatBiker]

Originally posted by limbat@Feb 23 2006, 03:04 PM

 

Yaaa lorrr ..... after in the HIDs & Halogen business for 10 over years, "MO = Mass Ordering" ..... will make us close shop ...... leow ...... Haizz......

 

 

Any1 got lobang for new job opening or not ???

No way! You are an experience and resourceful business man... bikers in the forum are always singing your praises... that result is no way achievable just by having "more economical" products!

 

I will definitely pay you a visit and learn things from you (if you are willing to teach) when I am back in SG for vacation in March.

 

FatBiker

[FatBiker]

Originally posted by paiseh@Feb 23 2006, 04:00 PM

is it possible for u to post the company name here? (or u could use PM thanks)

 

can u confirm with me the factory is in GuangZhou?

 

by the way.. who is ken? is he in spore? would like to see the quality before i make orders?

Ken is my brother... you can call him (please dun SMS) to arrange viewing for the HID that he had installed. I am sure that he will be very willing to show it to you

 

His number is in my signature...

 

FatBiker

[FatBiker]

Originally posted by paiseh@Feb 23 2006, 06:04 PM

Philips has patented the HIDs. Fact that HIDs are so expensive becoz producers have to pat philips $$

 

sometimes i wonder, why is it that the people(i trying not to use the word chinese) from china are able to copy things yet not get involved with the law.

 

remmeber the incident? industrial estate in China got clsoed down becoz another identical one was built next to it with much lower rate?

Intellectual Property rights is getting more serious in China also... but very slowly...

 

In a lot of cases... they did not violate the IP... just taking advantage of low labour cost, low rental and high volumes. A lot of production workers here are only paid RMB600 per month leh... that's like SGD120 niah...

 

FatBiker

[FatBiker]

Originally posted by wait4me@Feb 23 2006, 07:33 PM

bright ah ?

 

how much again to install

 

if blow , how?

Confirm bright!!! In fact can be rather blinding when shine directly in the eyes...

 

 

FatBiker

[paiseh]

Originally posted by FatBiker@Feb 24 2006, 01:14 PM

Ken is my brother... you can call him (please dun SMS) to arrange viewing for the HID that he had installed. I am sure that he will be very willing to show it to you

 

His number is in my signature...

 

FatBiker

ok, that will be great, i will arrange with him soon. maybe cheeko will be interested to go view with me? by the way, wat bike has he installed the HID? H4 or H7?

 

that nite i saw a super 4 with HID installed.

[FatBiker]

Originally posted by paiseh@Feb 24 2006, 03:48 PM

ok, that will be great, i will arrange with him soon. maybe cheeko will be interested to go view with me? by the way, wat bike has he installed the HID? H4 or H7?

 

that nite i saw a super 4 with HID installed.

He installed a H4 on his Vmax...

 

FatBiker

[Guest cheeko]

Originally posted by paiseh@Feb 24 2006, 03:48 PM

ok, that will be great, i will arrange with him soon. maybe cheeko will be interested to go view with me? by the way, wat bike has he installed the HID? H4 or H7?

 

that nite i saw a super 4 with HID installed.

i think nite time go for kulai nasi lemak better, cos on the NSHW, then can see the difference between urs & mr fatbiker products, nasi lemak on me if u 2 go

[paiseh]

Originally posted by cheeko@Feb 25 2006, 12:18 AM

i think nite time go for kulai nasi lemak better, cos on the NSHW, then can see the difference between urs & mr fatbiker products, nasi lemak on me if u 2 go

lol serious? maybe u can organise HID outing in this thread.