Do you know how to break in your new Bike (Engine)

[MrLau]

If you want your bike to have more power, use "break-in" method.

 

If you want your bike to last longer, use factory recommended run-in.

 

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If you want your bike more power and last longer, do both !!!

[3chUn]

haha.. i think i go for soft!

[redname]

Originally posted by MrLau@Jan 20 2006, 11:55 PM

If you want your bike to have more power, use "break-in" method.

 

If you want your bike to last longer, use factory recommended run-in.

 

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If you want your bike more power and last longer, do both !!!

haha, how to do both, teach me leh

[redname]

Originally posted by WW@Jan 20 2006, 08:26 PM

Maybe tat time i haven join SBF, or maybe i haven got my lau k and did the hard run in.

cant be lah, ur joining date earlier than me leh. hhhhhhhhhmmmm, maybe u missed it lor

[-PeNsKe-]

Originally posted by redname@Jan 21 2006, 02:26 AM

haha, how to do both, teach me leh

Haha.. JUz like retro said lor. " every morning i'm always late... so hard run in in the morning and soft in the evening... " :faint:

[Aie]

Originally posted by -=[PeNsKe]=-@Jan 21 2006, 02:29 AM

Haha.. JUz like retro said lor. " every morning i'm always late... so hard run in in the morning and soft in the evening... " :faint:

Retro did not really specify what is hard in the morning and what is soft in the evening... Maybe he talking about his didi???

[-PeNsKe-]

Originally posted by Aie@Jan 21 2006, 02:52 AM

Retro did not really specify what is hard in the morning and what is soft in the evening... Maybe he talking about his didi???

Ya.. Always auto hard in the mrng. Need to Hang-gun to soften it. LOlx... :faint:

[Aie]

Originally posted by -=[PeNsKe]=-@Jan 21 2006, 02:58 AM

Ya.. Always auto hard in the mrng. Need to Hang-gun to soften it. LOlx... :faint:

Unless he polish his gun with Viagra wax polisher...

[kinwei]

Originally posted by redname@Jan 21 2006, 02:26 AM

haha, how to do both, teach me leh

YOu want to do both?? Easy. Just do the recommended soft run in. After that whack your bike regularly, meaning rev till red line. That is what I do, and it seems to work for me.

[retro]

Originally posted by -=[PeNsKe]=-@Jan 21 2006, 02:58 AM

Ya.. Always auto hard in the mrng. Need to Hang-gun to soften it. LOlx... :faint:

Ya man... morning always hard so need to whack it... evening soft so take it easy :cheer:

[MrLau]

Originally posted by redname@Jan 21 2006, 02:26 AM

haha, how to do both, teach me leh

Read my earlier post lah.....

 

I just want to share abit of my point of view.

 

1. Break-in is not equal to run-in. But break-in is part of the run-in process.

 

2. Break-in process is done at the first 40km, mainly for the piston ring to seal tightly. There are also proper steps, you need to warm up the engine, progressively load the engine.

 

3. Break-in doesnt mean after the first 40km, you can straight wack your bike to 299km/h.

 

4. There are many others parts in the bike will need time to run-in, example for cam, brake pad (bed-in), tyres (got wax), chain+sprocket, etc.

 

So, in my opinion, to run-in a bike properly :

 

1. Break-in the piston ring at first 40km, then change oil.

2. Run in within recommended RPM for 500km, then change oil.

3. Suqsequent change at 1500km.

[ghost_man]

Hey all, I have noticed that MS loves to say sh1tty things about others then apologise for his dumbness... So what if anyone has the skills to go around the track under 2mins... So what if WW loves to wheelie in the tracks... Different strokes for different folks isn't it...

 

Well MS you are such a showoff dum6@ss..... Since you are so freaking knowledgable why don't you start your own shop... I'm sure with knowledge you possess you'l be a great Mechanic...

 

outz.......

[ghost_man]

Oh to MS i've read thru my posts and i think that i've been to harsh on you... I apologise for being to harsh

 

Since i apologised, it means i'm forgiven? You may be good on the track But you ain't got no EQ...

 

sh1t smells like sh1t even you have perfume sprayed all over it...

 

NOBODY SEEN ANYTHING......!!!!!

[Guest xridez]

Originally posted by ghost_man@Jan 22 2006, 03:06 AM

Oh to MS i've read thru my posts and i think that i've been to harsh on you... I apologise for being to harsh

 

Since i apologised, it means i'm forgiven? You may be good on the track But you ain't got no EQ...

 

sh1t smells like sh1t even you have perfume sprayed all over it...

 

NOBODY SEEN ANYTHING......!!!!!

We shall wait n see who have more EQ n IQ in 3 years time. After doing a soft run in, my K2 is still wif me for d past 3 years plus. Still working fine wif d millage of 62000km.

 

If WW wans to challenge wheelie wif me, then can forget abt it cos I dunno hw to do it. I only know hw to ride d bike in a proper way n dunno wat is 299km/h. I'm slower n I dun wack my bike like tat.

 

I play track for leisure only but not at hardcore n I usually come last in my group. If u can play below 2min, then good for U. If u know hw to wheelie, good for u. If u know hw to tok n dunno wat is d truth, all d best to u. If u think U R d best among ure group, good for u. If U think going at 299km/h most of the time is good n U feel proud of it, good for u also.

 

To all: Playing big bike does not come cheap, do save up more for future uses just in case of urgent needs. Dun throw all d $$ into mod up d bike for fast action when ure braking system is damn lousy. If U know hw to go fast n dunno hw to brake in time, then all d best. Dun follow d wrong ppls. If u guys like to tok bad behind someone back, then ure chances will come 1 day. I'm not pointing my finger at anyone, but wat I say is from my past experience. Do take care guys...

 

MS maybe harsh but all he say is true. He is just sharing his knowledge abt automotive in this forum n U guys treat him like a piece of sh*t. Same goes for me... We shall let u guys decide wat is wrong n correct ureself.

 

From my past experience 4 years back, I do believe in hard run in but after something abt happen to my bike. Let me share wif U guys, I used to own a ducati monster n I purchase a wisco piston n sent my orginal block to US to rebore (big bore kit). After tat, We went to do a hard run in when d bike is done up. Abt 12 weeks later, which is 3 mths later, my piston gave way, 1 piston was being scattered into tiny piece n luckily d other piston is working at d speed of 180km/h. If d 2 piston gave way at d same time, I might not be here typing at all. This is Y, after this incident, I support MS conculsion.

 

In fact, I was like WW supporting hard run in all d way n dun believe in slow run in. But after this incident 4 years back, I stopped supporting hard run in but to soft run in. Soft run in will lesser d wear n tear parts than hard run in. Tat is an 100%. My K2 is an good example, tat Y I stil dun wan to sell, up to nw even my wife is complainting abt giving up biking to CAR 100%. I got 2 cars at hm but i only drive either 1 of them in d day time, I still prefer biking due to d passion I have. WW, I'm not young anymore, perhaps in chinese they is a words saying, "I eat more salt than rice than U". If U guys wans to know more, u guys can come to my CAFE at Bugis on March cos I'm opening 1.... We serve desert n wine.

[WW]

Originally posted by xpac5@Jan 22 2006, 01:08 PM

We shall wait n see who have more EQ n IQ in 3 years time. After doing a soft run in, my K2 is still wif me for d past 3 years plus. Still working fine wif d millage of 62000km.

 

If WW wans to challenge wheelie wif me, then can forget abt it cos I dunno hw to do it. I only know hw to ride d bike in a proper way n dunno wat is 299km/h. I'm slower n I dun wack my bike like tat.

 

I play track for leisure only but not at hardcore n I usually come last in my group. If u can play below 2min, then good for U. If u know hw to wheelie, good for u. If u know hw to tok n dunno wat is d truth, all d best to u. If u think U R d best among ure group, good for u. If U think going at 299km/h most of the time is good n U feel proud of it, good for u also.

 

To all: Playing big bike does not come cheap, do save up more for future uses just in case of urgent needs. Dun throw all d $$ into mod up d bike for fast action when ure braking system is damn lousy. If U know hw to go fast n dunno hw to brake in time, then all d best. Dun follow d wrong ppls. If u guys like to tok bad behind someone back, then ure chances will come 1 day. I'm not pointing my finger at anyone, but wat I say is from my past experience. Do take care guys...

 

MS maybe harsh but all he say is true. He is just sharing his knowledge abt automotive in this forum n U guys treat him like a piece of sh*t. Same goes for me... We shall let u guys decide wat is wrong n correct ureself.

 

From my past experience 4 years back, I do believe in hard run in but after something abt happen to my bike. Let me share wif U guys, I used to own a ducati monster n I purchase a wisco piston n sent my orginal block to US to rebore (big bore kit). After tat, We went to do a hard run in when d bike is done up. Abt 12 weeks later, which is 3 mths later, my piston gave way, 1 piston was being scattered into tiny piece n luckily d other piston is working at d speed of 180km/h. If d 2 piston gave way at d same time, I might not be here typing at all. This is Y, after this incident, I support MS conculsion.

 

In fact, I was like WW supporting hard run in all d way n dun believe in slow run in. But after this incident 4 years back, I stopped supporting hard run in but to soft run in. Soft run in will lesser d wear n tear parts than hard run in. Tat is an 100%. My K2 is an good example, tat Y I stil dun wan to sell, up to nw even my wife is complainting abt giving up biking to CAR 100%. I got 2 cars at hm but i only drive either 1 of them in d day time, I still prefer biking due to d passion I have. WW, I'm not young anymore, perhaps in chinese they is a words saying, "I eat more salt than rice than U". If U guys wans to know more, u guys can come to my CAFE at Bugis on March cos I'm opening 1.... We serve desert n wine.

I know, you are not yong. And MS did share with us his own knowleage. But he was wrong in the first place by calling name and nick on mi. And infact , i will like to meet him in person to clear the doubt.

And congrat for your opening for your cafe.

But one last thing, does not mean you eat more salt than mi, mean you are more experinence than mi,cos i also have alot of passion for biking.

[ghost_man]

Originally posted by xpac5@Jan 22 2006, 01:08 PM

We shall wait n see who have more EQ n IQ in 3 years time. After doing a soft run in, my K2 is still wif me for d past 3 years plus. Still working fine wif d millage of 62000km.

 

If WW wans to challenge wheelie wif me, then can forget abt it cos I dunno hw to do it. I only know hw to ride d bike in a proper way n dunno wat is 299km/h. I'm slower n I dun wack my bike like tat.

 

I play track for leisure only but not at hardcore n I usually come last in my group. If u can play below 2min, then good for U. If u know hw to wheelie, good for u. If u know hw to tok n dunno wat is d truth, all d best to u. If u think U R d best among ure group, good for u. If U think going at 299km/h most of the time is good n U feel proud of it, good for u also.

 

To all: Playing big bike does not come cheap, do save up more for future uses just in case of urgent needs. Dun throw all d $$ into mod up d bike for fast action when ure braking system is damn lousy. If U know hw to go fast n dunno hw to brake in time, then all d best. Dun follow d wrong ppls. If u guys like to tok bad behind someone back, then ure chances will come 1 day. I'm not pointing my finger at anyone, but wat I say is from my past experience. Do take care guys...

 

MS maybe harsh but all he say is true. He is just sharing his knowledge abt automotive in this forum n U guys treat him like a piece of sh*t. Same goes for me... We shall let u guys decide wat is wrong n correct ureself.

 

From my past experience 4 years back, I do believe in hard run in but after something abt happen to my bike. Let me share wif U guys, I used to own a ducati monster n I purchase a wisco piston n sent my orginal block to US to rebore (big bore kit). After tat, We went to do a hard run in when d bike is done up. Abt 12 weeks later, which is 3 mths later, my piston gave way, 1 piston was being scattered into tiny piece n luckily d other piston is working at d speed of 180km/h. If d 2 piston gave way at d same time, I might not be here typing at all. This is Y, after this incident, I support MS conculsion.

 

In fact, I was like WW supporting hard run in all d way n dun believe in slow run in. But after this incident 4 years back, I stopped supporting hard run in but to soft run in. Soft run in will lesser d wear n tear parts than hard run in. Tat is an 100%. My K2 is an good example, tat Y I stil dun wan to sell, up to nw even my wife is complainting abt giving up biking to CAR 100%. I got 2 cars at hm but i only drive either 1 of them in d day time, I still prefer biking due to d passion I have. WW, I'm not young anymore, perhaps in chinese they is a words saying, "I eat more salt than rice than U". If U guys wans to know more, u guys can come to my CAFE at Bugis on March cos I'm opening 1.... We serve desert n wine.

Was your bike fixed up locally? If so i wouldn't want to say much... as for any bike, there would be definitely wear and tear and depending on the way anyone rides how much extend the wear and tear is.. after all it's a machine.. After 3 years any machine will still be fine, but there is no deny that it's not the same as the first few months one rides it.. becoz of wear and tear..

 

Neither hard or soft run in gurantees you of no problems.. There are so many factors involved in maintaining one's bike.

 

To each his own..

 

Anyway as for MS i'm just pissed that he always very harsh to others that has their own way of maintaining their bikes.. Sharing information is great but if others dun see it your way then it's their loss.. Everyone is entitled to have their own point of view.. If there is a clash of opinions no need to say that the other is imbecile...

 

Like you, you shared y and that's great and i'm sure fellow sbf rider will appreciate it.

 

Good luck to your CAFE dude...,

 

outz

[TeePeePhobe]

Why don't you blame your exploding piston on your modifications instead? Once you open up the engine and do things to it that it was not designed for in the first place, what do you expect? This is exactly what I was trying to drive home, MS and crew putting all kind of blame on 'hard run in', yet avoiding all the contributing reasons over the history of the bike that are far more likely to be the cause of problem.

[-PeNsKe-]

Hmmm.. Maybe his K2 no need servicing for the past 3 years. In tat case, i might do a soft run in for my new bike. Lesser Wear and tear mah. No need change batt, rectifier.....etc

[Aie]

Johntan, looks like there are still some heat and sparks left in this topic cos in comes firestarters and starts fanning the flames again.

[WW]

Originally posted by -=[PeNsKe]=-@Jan 22 2006, 03:11 PM

Hmmm.. Maybe his K2 no need servicing for the past 3 years. In tat case, i might do a soft run in for my new bike. Lesser Wear and tear mah. No need change batt, rectifier.....etc

Siao , even if you do soft run in or wat, you bike batt wont spoil, i chop off gucci bird.

[Aie]

Originally posted by WW@Jan 22 2006, 06:26 PM

Siao , even if you do soft run in or wat, you bike batt wont spoil, i chop off gucci bird.

You chop off his gucci bird, can be arrested for voluntarily causing grevious hurt leh, WW... No need to be so violent lah...

[WW]

Originally posted by Aie@Jan 22 2006, 06:29 PM

You chop off his gucci bird, can be arrested for voluntarily causing grevious hurt leh, WW... No need to be so violent lah...

I angry laio, Cos last time my 929 soft run in batt still spoil. HAHAHA

joking only.....

[retro]

Originally posted by WW@Jan 22 2006, 06:47 PM

I angry laio, Cos last time my 929 soft run in batt still spoil. HAHAHA

joking only.....

so erm does hard or soft run in 'hurt' any other parts of the bike?

[kinwei]

Originally posted by retro@Jan 22 2006, 07:01 PM

so erm does hard or soft run in 'hurt' any other parts of the bike?

they joking only lah.

[WW]

Originally posted by retro@Jan 22 2006, 07:01 PM

so erm does hard or soft run in 'hurt' any other parts of the bike?

Ya.joking only, My pervious 929 1st owner did the soft break in, and i was the second owner, when i got the bike , the milage only 5k, as he use it as a track bike.And i continue to ride for 4 yr, before i change bike.

But when i got my new lau k, i decided to try hard run in, after hearing and reading info from other US bike forums. And till now no problem(most of the time on one wheel,HAHAHA joking....). And i got friend riding a k1 which did the hard run in, Riding to 5 yr laio, still no problem, that why i chose the hard run in.