Woopa!! Cbr1000rr Riders

[RayNg]

Originally posted by Tashi@Jun 20 2004, 11:05 PM

Just a way well wishing.

 

We were all eagerly awaiting for your star performance last night at GP Esso. Next time pls come with an empty tank.

hey sorry tashi can't meet up with you last nite. most of my friends working till late so can't go in any early last saturday.

[Tashi]

No prob, There will be a next time. Will always need petrol.

 

Ken, Petronas seems to give me more mileage than V-Power, 10 km more in fact.

 

A long time back, Petronas had this ad on TV where they claim that after tests, they're petrols are 1 of the 3 that have passed/surpassed some Int'l standards test ...

 

However, some locals also said they only export those high standards petrol, local market they don't use the same petrol.

 

Also previously I've posted somewhere in the forum that V-Power is refined twice to get rid of the sulphur content to give you cleaner combustion than other petrols.

 

I've got an update from a friend. Esso here refines petrol for export, so it's more economical for them, and also a requirement for them to refine their petrol twice.

 

Plus BP and Caltex in S'pore buy processed petrol from Esso, and then add their own additives, so I guess most petrol in S'pore has been refined twice.

[Ken]

like that ah, so is the petrol in gp esso good?

or the petronas better?

[Ken]

Originally posted by Ni+3KiDz@Jun 20 2004, 04:24 PM

Huh. hw u noe im ridin rvf??

alamak, u from rvf thread oso mah...

although u had gone missing for a long long time.

somemore seen ur bike with ur nick b4.

 

anyway, no matter which bike u choose, u wont be wrong.

[Ken]

Originally posted by shoei@Jun 20 2004, 04:42 PM

yeah honda is popular for its smothness

ya. there r really good in it.

they can really smooth the power/torqueness of the bike so well like they divided the torque to more fractions before being sent out n thus we feel the bike is smooth.

hehehe, i m lao wang.

[Ken]

as long as those toot toot car drivers drive safely, we will be safe.

[Hayabusa Sniper]

Originally posted by Tashi@Jun 20 2004, 11:05 PM

Just a way well wishing.

 

We were all eagerly awaiting for your star performance last night at GP Esso. Next time pls come with an empty tank.

dun know wat u toking abt

[Tashi]

Originally posted by Hayabusa Sniper@Jun 21 2004, 07:15 PM

dun know wat u toking abt

NM, 1 fine day you'll know for sure.

[Tashi]

Have to change air filter soon. Anygood ones to recommend?

 

BMC just came out with 1 for the RR4. Anyone knows where I can get one?

[RayNg]

wow so fast gotta change air filter ar.. think sporting motor will have BMC filter.. BMC suppose to be washable but allow even more air flow than the K&N.. if not wrong theres a street version and a race version(even more air)..

[Tashi]

Originally posted by RayNg@Jun 26 2004, 01:36 PM

wow so fast gotta change air filter ar.. think sporting motor will have BMC filter.. BMC suppose to be washable but allow even more air flow than the K&N.. if not wrong theres a street version and a race version(even more air)..

I was told BMC too much air flow, so may have to adjust jet changes. I guess if I get BMC, should get the street version.

 

K&N should be ok, no mods needed. But they haven't produced one for the RR4 yet. Motoworld said K&N have to go thru dyno test and all before coming out with a product.

 

Just touched 8000km today. Bike has been checked from top to bottom, no need to do anything except change oil and filter. Even the chain slack hasn't been adjusted since I bought it. When I bought it, it was tight, now the slack is just right.

 

Also adjusted my rear light to come on earlier.

 

This bike is really low in maintenance.

 

Sporting Motor should be moving to Mah's premise by next weekend, if I remembered correctly. They already have some tools there, and I can see they've been modifying an 04 R1.

[SP4]

can u guys riding cbr1000rr share more abt ur bike cos i will like to know more.

[Tashi]

Originally posted by SP4@Jun 26 2004, 10:49 PM

can u guys riding cbr1000rr share more abt ur bike cos i will like to know more.

SP4, read from page 12 of this thread, I've posted my amateur-ish review of the bike. Some nice pix of the bike in the box also, probably a page or 2 back froom 12.

[Ken]

Yo, tashi, how come so fast need to change air filter leh?

u will be amazed at how many more bikes sporting had modded and what's been modded.

u will have more chances to see those bikes when they shift to mah fully.

[Ken]

Pirelli Diablo Corsa Review, A Control Riders perspective PART II

Now that we CR’s have had some time on the Diablo Corsa tire, I thought I would pass on some of what we have learned. First and foremost, when you set the bike up right, these tires seem able to deliver nearly the SAME level of traction as both the Super Corsa and Dunlop race tire, and over a longer period of time. In fact, they inspired enough confidence that the faster CRs found themselves setting some pretty hard to follow lap times at Barber. For instance, Blandford, Garth, Peanut and some of the others, on both 600cc and 1000cc machines were dabbling in the 1:36 range with good results! To put this in perspective, many of the riders in the Advanced class were running 1:50s to 1:41s. Needless to say, these tires can turn out some very fast times!

 

I looked at Blandford’s rear tire (he’s on an R1 now, the bas***d) all through out the day and it was exhibiting very little wear. Conversely, I totally shagged a set by noon as I had used these at VIR the prior track weekend - AT A TOTALLY INCORRECT tire pressure. This is important if you are going to use these tires. First. TRUST THEM. They are that good. Second. Believe Pirelli when they tell you to use 36 pounds in the rear. Ignoring this cost me a tire.

 

TIRE PRESSURE:

We have found that trying to run Race Tire pressures in the Diablo Corsa will only hasten their demise. Pirelli so much as told us this but being racers and knuckleheads many of us went our own path and used pressures far too low (and unnecessary) for the design. Going from running 30psi in the Super Corsa to 34psi or higher in the Diablo Corsa just seemed to alien too us so we stuck with what we knew - which in this case was WRONG. While traction was excellent, it soon fell off due to the abuse we were giving the rear tire, which is constructed differently than the Super Corsa and is meant to be run at much higher pressures. Street tire pressures in fact -- which in hindsight makes sense since this tire can be used with complete faith on both the street and track, unlike a race tire.

 

Being a little inexperienced with this, many of us chased suspension problems that did not really exist. Once the light bulb went off and we started FOLLOWING Pirelli’s recommendation for tire pressure, amazing things happened. Example: At VIR I ran 31-31 (psi) and shagged a rear tire in 1.5 days. At Barber, I replaced the rear tire and used Pirelli’s recommended pressure on the new rear. By the end of the weekend the tire still looked brand new or darn close to it. Unlike the tire I cooked at 31psi, the one set at 35psi or so just gripped like mad and never let up at the pace I was running.

 

I would not say the rear tire is “sensitive” to pressure settings. No more so than a race tire. Like any tire you have to be close to the recommended pressure for good wear. Pirelli often recommends 30 to 31psi for the rear Super Corsa as did Dunlop for the D208. You could go up or down a pound depending on conditions. Outside of those regions, the tires would cold tear or shag. The Diablo Corsa is no different for track use. I experimented with 31 in the rear and shagged a tire. No surprise. I was FIVE POUNDS below the recommended psi!!! I then tried 34 psi and the result was drastically better. In the end I think we can recommend fully using 35 to 36 psi in the rear tire and you can except very good traction and life at this setting.

 

SUSPENSION:

There are some differences in tire height between the Dunlop D208, Pirelli Super Corsa and the Diablo Corsa. As a member you will want to deal with it in one of two ways. You can either change your fork height or you can take out some preload. If making the switch permanently from D208 or Super Corsa’s to the Diablo Corsa, lower the front end 5mm and call it a day. Racers who want to use Supercorsas for racing and the Diablo Corsa for track days can get away with taking out a line or two of fork preload to gain back their steering feel. That allows you to keep your race tire suspension set up and adjust for the DC as needed. A third option, probably less ideal, is to split the difference in fork height (2mm) and then adjust preload to compensate for one of the other.

 

Important numbers:

 

Super Corsa Front: 600mm

Super Corsa Rear: 642mm

 

Dunlop D208 GP Front: 599mm

Dunlop D208 GP Rear: 643mm

 

Diablo Corsa Front: 610mm

Diablo Corsa Rear: 645mm.

 

As you can see, the front is really the only issue. The difference between all the rear tires is small enough you can probably get away with no changes in rear ride height when swapping to the DC. A drop of 5mm seems to be the consensus if permanently going to the DC.

 

In closing, after this weekend, just about every skeptical Control Rider walked away from Barber completely impressed with the over all feel, traction and longevity of the Diablo Corsa. No one expected them to be this good and give this much grip. Its nice to be surprised!!! Once we figured out what pressure the tire required, lap times started dropping into the same range as the race tires. I can say with complete belief that this is probably the BEST tire you can buy for Track Day use, bar none. It should last you longer than the Super Corsa race tire and better still, if your bike is not track-only, you can go use it on the street with out worry.

 

A final note: You notice I did not talk much about the Front DC tire pressure? I was running 31 in the front and it stuck like glue and wore like iron. After VIR and Barber it didn’t look any worse for wear. Pirelli Recommends 34psi in the front so that is what we’ll try next. The front doesn’t seem to much care at all what’s in it. Seemed fairly impervious. Just like the Super Corsa. Pirelli Fronts wear like iron -- with plenty of grip. However, some CRs reported a bit of pushing at 31 psi but they were riding a good bit FASTER than I was, by about 6 seconds per lap. I believe then that the recommended pressure of 34psi is what you should try. Let US, the Control Riders, be the guinea pigs. In the end though, judging from what happened with the rears, we can just about promise that 34 will be the final pressure for the front. So, 34-36 and drop the front 5mm. That’s the basics for the DC. I think we have a WINNA!!

[RayNg]

thats wat happen to me.. look at my thread in 'On the track' 'tires'.. it too me some time to find the idea pressure..

 

 

 

the heres the hot result

[Guest CBR 1000RR]

Hi all

saw 1 rr4 in Belwin moto with race fairing,OZ rims and some mod......any 1 know the ower???see that bike parking there long time....never ride????

[kata_killer]

Originally posted by RayNg@Jun 28 2004, 01:28 AM

thats wat happen to me.. look at my thread in 'On the track' 'tires'.. it too me some time to find the idea pressure..

 

 

 

the heres the hot result

ya ya... wat to see mine?

[WW]

Originally posted by kata_killer@Jun 29 2004, 03:46 PM

ya ya... wat to see mine?

took some of my friend tires after track.

http://sg.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/castro...0&.dnm=c9f4.jpg

[Ken]

Originally posted by rc51vtrsp1@Jun 29 2004, 11:12 AM

Hi all

saw 1 rr4 in Belwin moto with race fairing,OZ rims and some mod......any 1 know the ower???see that bike parking there long time....never ride????

hmm, might be the white/blue/red RR4 done up by Sporting Motor.

can tell its a track bike, so dun think the owner will ride it on road.

maybe no time go track?

thats why park it for so long.

[Guest CBR 1000RR]

:smile:

[Guest CBR 1000RR]

Originally posted by Ken@Jun 29 2004, 05:56 PM

hmm, might be the white/blue/red RR4 done up by Sporting Motor.

can tell its a track bike, so dun think the owner will ride it on road.

maybe no time go track?

thats why park it for so long.

hi Ken

How u know that bike was done up with sportingmotor???

[Ken]

might be, i say.

cos i noe sporting done up 1 like what u describe.

[Ken]

Originally posted by Akrapovic55@Jun 29 2004, 04:13 PM

took some of my friend tires after track.

http://sg.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/castro...0&.dnm=c9f4.jpg

The guy call Liu at the port dickson, he's my sgt when i was a recruit.

saw him once at Loois, sitting on a CB1000.

[Guest CBR 1000RR]

Originally posted by Ken@Jun 29 2004, 06:08 PM

might be, i say.

cos i noe sporting done up 1 like what u describe.

oic never seen that on track