[Group] Singapore BAJAJ Team (SBT)

[revhappy]

does this happen when you drop to lower gear when you engine brake?

 

No, Only when I close the throttle completely to slow down, For ex. when approaching a signal.

[SC Gaban]

alamak wat anime hahaha ? gundam unicorn ?

 

nope. have u heard of an anime called LineBarrels of Iron?

 

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=9089

[ORen]

the reason is that our headlight wiring harness is design to take 35W/35W bulbs

if you were to put higher wattage bulbs in the extra load will put stress on the wiring harness which will have a chance of melting the wiring harness

also because higher wattage bulbs the heat generated will melt our reflector

our reflector is not able to take the heat generated by the higher wattage bulbs

 

Not necessarily. A bulb of 60/55W can work perfectly with the stock headlight reflector without melting it. I'm talking about a 12V H4 bulb of course, not HID.

 

for HID wise, HID needs a full DC system

even with a 34W ballast, the power draw is too much for our rectifier to take

like what lanzer/pet said last sat

nememsis's voltage is constantly dropping when he turned on HID even when he is riding

for HID to work, you need to modify the electrical system

 

HID is a whole other story, agreed it needs a full DC and also attention to the reflector melting. The recommended setting by the Indo riders is HID + Projector (a P&P projector). Works like charm.

Full DC you wouldn't need to make any further modification as the charging should be improved. You need however to make sure you ride enough everyday to recharge. So for me this is not a solution as a ride very little during the working days - I live close to work.

 

i think the best way to concentrate our headlight beam is like what we said to add a projector lens in our headlight cowling

 

Yes exactly - but where to find it i'm going to try that + higher wattage bulb non-HID, and add also a couple of driving lights fixed lower on the forks or the fender sides. I am considering for now LED riding lights because they draw about 10W each. I can;t go for Hella fog lights because they consume too much power , if I choose Hella I can only fix one light instead of two.

The "problem" with the LED driving lights is the price.. cheapest there is is around S$450 for a set of two (with all the wires, switches relay etc etc). Denali and Vision X Solstice are both around that price. Still trying to find better options..

 

So the Pulsar 200 is AC+DC or Full DC ? I read that one model of Pulsar 180 is full DC (can't remember which UG)..

 

 

Of late I have noticed a strange chuff chuff sound from my bike. This happens only when I am closing the throttle and doing engine braking. Normally it happens after I have some about some distance. Any idea what is the cause? I ride at very high RPMs continuously(~8k RPM) could that be the cause?

 

Sorry bro, no idea..

 

anyone knows where can find these clamps?

[ATTACH=CONFIG]183452[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]183453[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]183454[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]183455[/ATTACH]

 

I don't know but I'm interested to find out too !

[ORen]

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[fircyber]

I don't think our bike is powered by AC (alternate current). Bcoz AC carries high voltage which would fry us. Even if DC could could be converted to AC, u sure need a tranformer which of coz is too bulky to fit to in our bike.

[alvinyansg]

Not necessarily. A bulb of 60/55W can work perfectly with the stock headlight reflector without melting it. I'm talking about a 12V H4 bulb of course' date=' not HID.[/quote']

 

yes i am talking about the normal H4 bulb as well

this has been tested by totalpet of using H4 bulb

melted his reflector

even for MJ his reflector also has some signs of melting at the top

but his is not so bad cause he got regulator which helps

i believe the K rating of the bulb also does affect the reflector melting

the projector lens might help in this

reflector is 1 thing

the wiring harness is another issue

which also has the possibility of melting due to the higher wattage

like i say before the harness is design for 35W

i did ask ah teck before about the bulbs

he say can put but he will not recommend to put higher wattage bulbs

 

 

HID is a whole other story, agreed it needs a full DC and also attention to the reflector melting. The recommended setting by the Indo riders is HID + Projector (a P&P projector). Works like charm.

Full DC you wouldn't need to make any further modification as the charging should be improved. You need however to make sure you ride enough everyday to recharge. So for me this is not a solution as a ride very little during the working days - I live close to work.

 

 

hmm

maybe full DC might work

 

 

Yes exactly - but where to find it i'm going to try that + higher wattage bulb non-HID, and add also a couple of driving lights fixed lower on the forks or the fender sides. I am considering for now LED riding lights because they draw about 10W each. I can;t go for Hella fog lights because they consume too much power , if I choose Hella I can only fix one light instead of two.

The "problem" with the LED driving lights is the price.. cheapest there is is around S$450 for a set of two (with all the wires, switches relay etc etc). Denali and Vision X Solstice are both around that price. Still trying to find better options..

 

the projector lens can try asking around in bike shops

or try limbat

vision x can get at SGD$140 a side without switch,relay,clamps

its expensive but it draws super low power

quote from Gaban "maybe the reason why its so expensive is because it draws so little power"

 

So the Pulsar 200 is AC+DC or Full DC ? I read that one model of Pulsar 180 is full DC (can't remember which UG)..

 

now all the pulsars are running on full DC according to bajaj website

not sure about P200

the manual did not state?

Edited November 17, 2010 by alvinyansg

[Ah_Pet]

Not necessarily. A bulb of 60/55W can work perfectly with the stock headlight reflector without melting it. I'm talking about a 12V H4 bulb of course, not HID.

 

yes i am talking about the normal H4 bulb as well

this has been tested by totalpet of using H4 bulb

melted his reflector

even for MJ his reflector also has some signs of melting at the top

but his is not so bad cause he got regulator which helps

i believe the K rating of the bulb also does affect the reflector melting

the projector lens might help in this

reflector is 1 thing

the wiring harness is another issue

which also has the possibility of melting due to the higher wattage

like i say before the harness is design for 35W

i did ask ah teck before about the bulbs

he say can put but he will not recommend to put higher wattage bulbs

 

 

 

ya. i used to used H4 for roughly more than a yrs and my reflector top melt 50%. afterwhich u will find that ur headlight not as bright as b4 as it do not reflect proper anymore.

[Ah_Pet]

Not necessarily. A bulb of 60/55W can work perfectly with the stock headlight reflector without melting it. I'm talking about a 12V H4 bulb of course, not HID.

 

yes i am talking about the normal H4 bulb as well

this has been tested by totalpet of using H4 bulb

melted his reflector

even for MJ his reflector also has some signs of melting at the top

but his is not so bad cause he got regulator which helps

i believe the K rating of the bulb also does affect the reflector melting

the projector lens might help in this

reflector is 1 thing

the wiring harness is another issue

which also has the possibility of melting due to the higher wattage

like i say before the harness is design for 35W

i did ask ah teck before about the bulbs

he say can put but he will not recommend to put higher wattage bulbs

 

 

 

ya. i used to used H4 for roughly more than a yrs and my reflector top melt 50%. afterwhich u will find that ur headlight not as bright as b4 as it do not reflect proper anymore.

 

i was thinking if wan next better blub like H4. can change s4 round headlight and install a big windshield. but bracket have to think how to make

[arthur_chan]

So the Pulsar 200 is AC+DC or Full DC ? I read that one model of Pulsar 180 is full DC (can't remember which UG)..

 

very interesting, i did some research and came out with this:

Power generation in a coil, any coil, or any stator is only going to come out AC. Any coil can only generate AC power. It physically cannot make DC. Power always coming out is AC, it cannot generate DC power. Its that simple.

http://www.infofaq.com/shopping/motorcycle-parts-legal.html

ps, there's a part about cdi, go read if you're interested.

 

bajaj website did put:

Electricals

System12 V Full DC

so my conclusion, anything coming out of the coil should be AC, if u direct connect to ur battery is DC. it does makes sense as if u see ur lights are always flickering, thus alternating. (do correct me if i'm wrong)

[Fredd]

thanks O'ren for the concern and advise for safety. i actually got into an accident b4 prior to ridin this pulsar. rode an s4 n collided wif a silvercab head-on and flew, crashed n rolled. dislocated and fractured my hip. spent 10 days in hosp. i was wearin jeans, jacket n slippers. lucky no other major injury. so i juz started ridin again a few mths back n now i ride super safe..even checkin to make sure vehicle behind me nt too close coz i cnnt afford to fall again(next fall i might need to replace my hip entirely). do u noe of any ridin gear which protects the hip area?

 

 

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[ORen]

yes i am talking about the normal H4 bulb as well

this has been tested by totalpet of using H4 bulb

melted his reflector

even for MJ his reflector also has some signs of melting at the top

but his is not so bad cause he got regulator which helps

i believe the K rating of the bulb also does affect the reflector melting

the projector lens might help in this

reflector is 1 thing

the wiring harness is another issue

which also has the possibility of melting due to the higher wattage

like i say before the harness is design for 35W

i did ask ah teck before about the bulbs

he say can put but he will not recommend to put higher wattage bulbs

 

P200 and the P180 have two different behaviors with regards to the reflector melting: it is well known that the P180 reflector can't take much, whereas the P200 one can take a more powerful bulb for longer and yes show little signs of impact from the heat.

 

Now about the wires: I never heard MJ running into troubles with his electricals because of the more powerful bulb ?The guys in Indonesia change their bulb and don't touch the wires at all. One of them has been using this setting for years..(with a projector). So I'm not sure what to think - again, it might be that the recommended wattage is 35 but in fact the wires can take more ?

 

the projector lens can try asking around in bike shops

or try limbat

 

Ok will do thanks - keep me posted if you find anything on your side please

 

vision x can get at SGD$140 a side without switch,relay,clamps

its expensive but it draws super low power

quote from Gaban "maybe the reason why its so expensive is because it draws so little power"

 

Yeah but their price seems very much justified so that's ok. Which Vision X qre at $140 ? The Solstice ones? If that's the price, it's actually quite cheap compared to the prices online ! Where to get them at this price ? Limbat again ?

 

now all the pulsars are running on full DC according to bajaj website

not sure about P200

the manual did not state?

 

Yes, starting the P220 it's full DC. Like a said there's one P180 UG that's full DC too. But the P200 that was discontinued? I don't know..

The manual says electrical system: 12Volts DC but is it full DC or AC/DC ?

 

ya. i used to used H4 for roughly more than a yrs and my reflector top melt 50%. afterwhich u will find that ur headlight not as bright as b4 as it do not reflect proper anymore.

 

i was thinking if wan next better blub like H4. can change s4 round headlight and install a big windshield. but bracket have to think how to make

 

Yeah, P180 reflector is not very resistant. I think no nee to go to the trouble of changing to a S4 assembly. We need to find the right projector and that will do !

very interesting, i did some research and came out with this:

 

http://www.infofaq.com/shopping/motorcycle-parts-legal.html

ps, there's a part about cdi, go read if you're interested.

 

bajaj website did put:

 

so my conclusion, anything coming out of the coil should be AC, if u direct connect to ur battery is DC. it does makes sense as if u see ur lights are always flickering, thus alternating. (do correct me if i'm wrong)

 

No you're not - the flickering of lights is exactly the indicator I thought of: my P200 headlight flickers -> it must be on AC , that's why I'm a bit confused when I read everyone saying it's DC. I don't think it is.

 

Very interesting reading on the link you posted, thanks

 

thanks O'ren for the concern and advise for safety. i actually got into an accident b4 prior to ridin this pulsar. rode an s4 n collided wif a silvercab head-on and flew, crashed n rolled. dislocated and fractured my hip. spent 10 days in hosp. i was wearin jeans, jacket n slippers. lucky no other major injury. so i juz started ridin again a few mths back n now i ride super safe..even checkin to make sure vehicle behind me nt too close coz i cnnt afford to fall again(next fall i might need to replace my hip entirely). do u noe of any ridin gear which protects the hip area?

 

I think in this case you want to probably get protective pants, some come with armored protection for the hips. Another theory of mine is that when you ride with full gear, you're more likely to fall better: you know your knees, hands and elbows can take the hit so you will be more conscious to spare your lower back and hip in your fall if possible. Again this is just theory, but it's a bit like when you start roller blading: if you don;t have any protection, you're stressed and will fall anyhow, when you wear some gear you fall on your gear and sometimes even prevent the fall because more confidence in controlling your balance. Two very different worlds I know but the comparison here is just to say, sometimes it's in our heads: when you're in Robocop Mode, you're more likely to use other part of your body during the fall perhaps.

[arthur_chan]

that's why I'm a bit confused when I read everyone saying it's DC. I don't think it is.

i think when ppl say full dc it means all the charge is from the coil, thus in fact ac. remember all bulbs dont care if ac or dc. however there're some who custom their bikes to be ac/dc.

 

but then i also read another article saying car is only dc, so i'm confused on the whole ac/dc thing also, hope someone can shed more light on this.

 

I think in this case you want to probably get protective pants, some come with armored protection for the hips. Another theory of mine is that when you ride with full gear, you're more likely to fall better: you know your knees, hands and elbows can take the hit so you will be more conscious to spare your lower back and hip in your fall if possible. Again this is just theory, but it's a bit like when you start roller blading: if you don;t have any protection, you're stressed and will fall anyhow, when you wear some gear you fall on your gear and sometimes even prevent the fall because more confidence in controlling your balance. Two very different worlds I know but the comparison here is just to say, sometimes it's in our heads: when you're in Robocop Mode, you're more likely to use other part of your body during the fall perhaps.

i was told if u fall, best u fall on your back with protective gear, however u have to train and react to it. usually most ppl fall will be on their front.

[Fredd]

if its a gentle fall u might be able to know hw to land or even cushion ur..bt if it was a sudden collision like i experienced..all i saw was my head spinnin round n round..hit e ground n rolled a few times..ouch..cannot move my legs

 

i think when ppl say full dc it means all the charge is from the coil, thus in fact ac. remember all bulbs dont care if ac or dc. however there're some who custom their bikes to be ac/dc.

 

but then i also read another article saying car is only dc, so i'm confused on the whole ac/dc thing also, hope someone can shed more light on this.

 

 

i was told if u fall, best u fall on your back with protective gear, however u have to train and react to it. usually most ppl fall will be on their front.

[Fredd]

if its a gentle fall u might be able to know hw to land or even cushion ur..bt if it was a sudden collision like i experienced..all i saw was my head spinnin round n round..hit e ground n rolled a few times..ouch..cannot move my legs

 

i think when ppl say full dc it means all the charge is from the coil, thus in fact ac. remember all bulbs dont care if ac or dc. however there're some who custom their bikes to be ac/dc.

 

but then i also read another article saying car is only dc, so i'm confused on the whole ac/dc thing also, hope someone can shed more light on this.

 

 

i was told if u fall, best u fall on your back with protective gear, however u have to train and react to it. usually most ppl fall will be on their front.

[arthur_chan]

if its a gentle fall u might be able to know hw to land or even cushion ur..bt if it was a sudden collision like i experienced..all i saw was my head spinnin round n round..hit e ground n rolled a few times..ouch..cannot move my legs

 

that's why i said u got to train how to fall, pro stuntman dont rely on instincts to fall; they know how to fall, which comes from training. however i also dont know how to fall, hope someone can conduct lesson on that, would really love to learn.

[arthur_chan]

found another thread reg ac/dc. they also talked about pulsar installing hid. i've gone thur a few page and i'm more confused now. i know nothing about electrical stuff, faint.

 

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/universal-threads/11469-convert-ac-dc-bike-all-dc.html

 

hid with projector

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/universal-threads/14684-basic-projectors-hid-their-installation.html

[Fredd]

go phuket jump from a bungee

 

that's why i said u got to train how to fall, pro stuntman dont rely on instincts to fall; they know how to fall, which comes from training. however i also dont know how to fall, hope someone can conduct lesson on that, would really love to learn.

[Gennosukes]

nope. have u heard of an anime called LineBarrels of Iron?

 

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=9089

 

Nope only watch gundam wing/seed/destiny/00. waiting for 00 movie to release in the market. any similar anime to recommend?

[arthur_chan]

Nope only watch gundam wing/seed/destiny/00. waiting for 00 movie to release in the market. any similar anime to recommend?

 

macross. there's also a few series about robots like code geases, eva, etc.

[Ah_Pet]

P200 and the P180 have two different behaviors with regards to the reflector melting: it is well known that the P180 reflector can't take much, whereas the P200 one can take a more powerful bulb for longer and yes show little signs of impact from the heat.

 

 

i think p200 and p180 using the same reflector.

maybe can check with UM is they carry two diff reflector or only one?

[arthur_chan]

anyone knows where can find these clamps?

 

 

[ATTACH=CONFIG]183452[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]183453[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]183454[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]183455[/ATTACH]

 

i think home-fix or self-fix got sell the last 1 or similar. if still cannot find, can look shops selling bathroom stuff, i know got similar brackets, like those to fasten hose.

[arthur_chan]

i think we discussed about the sprocs quite some time back

if nv remember wrongly pulsar hub hard to fit aftermarket sprocs(anyone can double confirm this?)

best is to head back to UM to change the sprocs

 

yes, iirc mj had some trouble chg the sinob? spocket, like got 4 holes or 6 holes. the reason why they dont want to try is if they strip it out and they dont have the parts, then they have to put back 4 u. best if u have a spare and show them the parts else go back um or maybe find if mj can help.

[arthur_chan]

Grill anyone?

haha

 

 

waste of $$, might as well give me the phones.

[ORen]

Guys, how do you use a multimeter to test hot wires ? I will Google it, but maybe someone here has done it before..

I only know how to test continuity with the multimeter on unplugged wires. i have tested a new system I created and continuity is good on all wires. yet, when i plug it to the battery it doesn't work and I don't know how to troubleshoot it ..

[ORen]

found another thread reg ac/dc. they also talked about pulsar installing hid. i've gone thur a few page and i'm more confused now. i know nothing about electrical stuff, faint.

 

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/universal-threads/11469-convert-ac-dc-bike-all-dc.html

 

hid with projector

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/universal-threads/14684-basic-projectors-hid-their-installation.html

 

Yeahm like most of the thread on that forum, it's confusing as hell. Too many people saying opposite things and no one really following through to update their findings. So basically you end with 5 options without knowing which one actually works...