Bikers Fellowship

[tangys]

We can have morning devotion together on Sunday

morning during the Cameron trip.

 

Advance party can do dry run on Saturday morning

too.

[lava]

We can have morning devotion together on Sunday

morning during the Cameron trip.

 

Advance party can do dry run on Saturday morning

too.

 

Bring ur bible =)

You got something to share with us?

[ChaoPuzzy1968]

Bring ur bible =)

You got something to share with us?

 

u're bike ok??

[NinjaLite]

her bike can go from Paris to Dakar leh....wer got problem one?

 

last nite Stream of Praise was pretty good.. D lead singer , lady veri good at PR..even came down to overflow room to check .....

 

if oni d screen has lyrics...it wld hav been great...

 

 

suppose to go FOP wif redname jus now...but office last min got issues...nw stuck in office

[lava]

u're bike ok??

 

yeah, thank God. My clutch cable left with few strand of hairs only, lucky to discover it before the trip.

[ChaoPuzzy1968]

yeah, thank God. My clutch cable left with few strand of hairs only, lucky to discover it before the trip.

 

then well done u r readi:angel:

[jtzx]

how to know if clutch cable if dieing or not?? cause it's covered by insulation hose le...

 

 

Weee.... Going for FOP tmr ;-) Be early for a good seat=p

[redname]

how to know if clutch cable if dieing or not?? cause it's covered by insulation hose le...

 

 

Weee.... Going for FOP tmr ;-) Be early for a good seat=p

 

went last nite with 2 others from here.

 

Bob fitts was fantastic, haha "ginger still the old one hotter"

 

same case when Don Moen was down few yrs back.

 

Really brought the presence of God down.

 

AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!

[redname]

her bike can go from Paris to Dakar leh....wer got problem one?

 

last nite Stream of Praise was pretty good.. D lead singer , lady veri good at PR..even came down to overflow room to check .....

 

if oni d screen has lyrics...it wld hav been great...

 

 

suppose to go FOP wif redname jus now...but office last min got issues...nw stuck in office

 

still can go 2day with joelin or sunday with Eliana mah

[redname]

We can have morning devotion together on Sunday

morning during the Cameron trip.

 

Advance party can do dry run on Saturday morning

too.

 

i raise 2 hands 2 leg to agree.

 

anyone wants P&W? i can lead but need guitar leh.

[jtzx]

went last nite with 2 others from here.

 

Bob fitts was fantastic, haha "ginger still the old one hotter"

 

same case when Don Moen was down few yrs back.

 

Really brought the presence of God down.

 

AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

ahh.. so is there parking lots? of totally full house???

 

i was there when don moen came down..

 

 

 

i raise 2 hands 2 leg to agree.

 

anyone wants P&W? i can lead but need guitar leh.

[redname]

ahh.. so is there parking lots? of totally full house???

 

i was there when don moen came down..

 

for bikes no prob lah, there are lots of bike lots in the carpark near the east enterance.

 

cars i dnt know wor.

 

btw, do u rem which was the band tht came during don moen tht fop? quite popular one also

[fooz]

the parachute band

[jtzx]

iszt???

 

not the raindown mehz?

deliriuous?

[redname]

i was trying to rem which band as i was conversing with someone.

 

cause i rem i was pretty disappointed tht they actually send their "reserve" band for FOP, the standard was quite bad for a band tht famous.

 

but thank God don moen came in and the rest was history

[karpo]

upzzzzzzzzzzz for bs ..

[ChaoPuzzy1968]

upzzzzzzzzzzz for bs ..

 

clock post??

[Mr.Everyday]

clock post??

 

Clock Clock Clock... I clock 3 times...

 

Sat is coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumb:

[lava]

upzzzzzzzzzzz for bs ..

 

Thanks!! Join us.

[dinosaur]

Anybody wanna buy my bikes? haha LightRiders got special discount.

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=250321&highlight=benelli

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=250130&highlight=dr200

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=250508&highlight=k1200gt

[x_00_x]

An article from The Star. A gentle reminder that though we should not embrace other religion (which in truth Christianity is a 'relationship with the Father through His Son, Jesus"), it doesn't mean that we should be having a mentally of being 'high' and 'mighty' and thus judge others according to our limited understanding.

 

The Truth is, all of us sent a sinless Man to the cross to be crucified for our sins. And this Man called Jesus, whom is God came down because men can not save themselves. So then, as Christ love us, we ought to carry His love for others. Before we start to think of 'oh this is a taboo', 'oh this is scandalous'. We ought to remember John 3:16 first.

 

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/8/2/focus/4434576&sec=focus

 

P/S : if you find this controversial and is sensitive, please write to the author instead of PM me. I am merely sharing something that 'ALL' of us can learn to exercise, and that is to exercise a little compassion and understanding. Be open to learn, and you shall surely learn.

 

Sunday August 2, 2009

 

Brothers, be just to your sisters

 

SHARING THE NATION WITH ZAINAH ANWAR

 

Islam itself means submission to the will of God, but the submission

of the self to faith and belief must be attained through conviction

and reason, not through coercion and duress.

 

SO, Malaysia makes international news again. And for the wrong reason

again. This time for the Kuantan Syariah Court’s decision to flog

Kartika Sari Dewi Shukarno with six strokes of the rotan for drinking

a glass of beer with her husband in a hotel in Cherating two years

ago.

 

Sudan is in the news too with the arrest of a journalist, Lubna Ahmad

Hussein, and 12 other women for wearing trousers, deemed to be

“inappropriate dress and conduct” under that country’s Islamic

criminal law. Ten of the women were already found guilty and flogged

with 10 lashes each.

 

Then there is the news from the Maldives that almost 150 women face

public flogging after being convicted for indulging in extramarital

sex. Interestingly, only 50 men face the same punishment.

 

What is it about men who want to implement Islamic law that they pick

on women to shame and defame?

 

As Kartika surrenders herself to her fate, I wonder how the Pahang

religious authorities are planning to execute the six lashes. Will the

Prime Minister who comes from Pahang and the Cabinet yet again

intervene in the enforcement of the draconian Syariah Criminal

Offences law in this country?

 

There is much public debate now along the usual divide. Islamists who

support the punishment in the name of Islam and others who are

outraged on several different grounds:

 

 

That the punishment does not reflect the gravity of the offence;

 

That as a first-time offender who also pleaded guilty as charged, Kartika should not have been punished with the maximum sentence;

 

Flogging is a violation of human rights as it constitutes a cruel, degrading and inhuman treatment;

 

Flogging women under Syariah law constitutes yet another form of discrimination against Muslim women in this country as women are exempted from flogging under civil law;

 

Neither the Qur’an nor the Hadith prescribes any form of punishment for drinking alcohol;

 

There is no consensus on flogging of women or for alcohol consumption. Only three states –Pahang, Perlis and Kelantan – provide for such punishment;

 

Islamic teachings emphasise forgiveness, compassion and positive personal transformation. So why punish in the first instance?

 

What is distressing about all these stories of women being flogged for

alleged transgressions of Islamic teachings is the seeming

determination of those who rule in the name of Islam to project a miso*

gynistic, punitive and vindictive God.

 

And yet, more than any other religion, Muslims invoke the name of God,

the compassionate and the merciful, numerous times a day as we say our

daily prayers, read verses of the Quran, and before we start any

action. Alas, all too often, this invocation of God’s name has become

meaningless and has no relation to how we live our lives and treat

others in the name of religion.

 

As Karen Armstrong said in her public lecture here two years ago, we

have become so obsessed about being right in our doctrine, instead of

being just in our practice.

 

No amount of explaining – that Syariah caning is not supposed to cause

injury, it is moderate, the caning officer is not supposed to lift his

arm above his shoulder – is going to take away the pain and

humiliation of such a cruel and degrading treatment.

 

In many Muslim countries, this flogging is done in public. The

Indonesian National Commission on Violence Against Women submitted a

report to the UN Com*mittee Against Torture listing the abuses that

occurred in Aceh and other districts in Indonesia which implement

Syariah law where women were arrested and flogged for their dressing,

for being out at night, for being with men not related to them.

 

The victimisation of women and the absence of rule of law are common

trends in countries that implement moral policing laws.

 

That the prisons in the Maldives hold more women than men waiting to

be flogged is no surprise. Men get away simply by denying they had sex

with the women. But women could get pregnant and this is used as

evidence of illicit sex, or the patriarchs in their family would have

turned them in; while boys get away by just being boys.

 

The situation is similar in Pakistan, too, when the hudud law on zina

was enforced. Over a thousand women are in prison for illicit sex and

hardly any men. Even women who reported rape were detained as their

police report was seen as confession of illicit sex because they were

not able to produce four pious males who witnessed the rape.

 

Women’s groups in Malaysia, Indonesia and Singapore are jointly

mobilising against Kartika’s sentencing, fearful of a precedent set

that will have wide impact not just on Malaysian Muslim women, but

also on the hundreds of thousands of Muslim women from neighbouring

countries who travel, work or reside in Malaysia.

 

Once again, the questions arise. What kind of Malaysia do we want to

live in, and project to the rest of the world? What kind of Islam do

we want to practise? What kind of God do we want to envision? A God of

kindness, compassion, beauty and goodness or a cruel, punitive and

misogynistic God?

 

Does 1Malaysia include equality between men and women and equality

between Muslim women and women of other faith?

 

The ever-so-often public outcry over arrests and abuses under the

Syariah Criminal Offences laws show a clear disconnect between how the

state views its role in controlling the lives of Muslims and how the

citizens perceive their entitlements to privacy and personal choices.

 

If the Syariah Criminal Offences laws are implemented in full, Malay*

sia’s prisons would collapse. The vast list of crimes range from

holding an opinion contrary to a fatwa, to possessing a book contrary

to Hukum Syarak, and behaving in an indecent manner in a public place.

 

As religion is a state matter, different states have also added

different offences. In Selangor, smoking is a crime. In Terengganu, it

is a crime for a woman to reveal any part of her aurat that arouses

passion in the public space or for a virgin woman to abscond from the

guardianship of her parents without a reasonable justification valid

under Hukum Syarak.

 

Is it the duty of the state – in order to bring about a moral society

– to turn all “sins” into “crimes against the state”? Should the state

extend the long arm of the law to what should be best left to the

religious conscience of the individual?

 

We all know that faith comes from the heart. Islam itself means

submission to the will of God, but the submission of the self to faith

and belief must be attained through conviction and reason, not through

coercion and duress.

 

Compelling obedience to God in this manner could suggest a failure in

the way Islam is taught in this country. Is the solution then to turn

to politicians to legislate on our lives and compel our obedience? Or

is it for us to search for more effective ways to teach Islam, to

imbibe Islamic values so that obedience to God comes from a genuine

act of faith, belief and submission? Is it beyond our ability to lead

the ummah to God’s way by love, beauty, kindness and compassion rather

than through fear, coercion and punishment?

Edited August 3, 2009 by x_00_x

[redname]

Anybody wanna buy my bikes? haha LightRiders got special discount.

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=250321&highlight=benelli

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=250130&highlight=dr200

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=250508&highlight=k1200gt

 

then wat r u gng to ride on fri?

[NinjaLite]

Anytin dat has a BeiMWei badge on it .......Dino has no shortage of bikes....

 

jus got my brake pads changed.... n suspension lowered...

 

All systems ready to go !!!

[dinosaur]

Alright man!! haha i cant wait to go too! I heard that Simpang Pulai rds to Cameron are good, ive never gone before. Anyway fri we sleep where ar?

 

 

 

Anytin dat has a BeiMWei badge on it .......Dino has no shortage of bikes....

 

jus got my brake pads changed.... n suspension lowered...

 

All systems ready to go !!!

[lava]

.. n suspension lowered...

 

YEAH!!!!!!!!! [hint hint =)]