[Technical] Possible Solutions to your Phantom's Problem

[velocity325]

ok thanks for the help, went to bike shop just now to inspect, it was faulty coil, as told by the technician. Reason been not enough power to charge.

 

how much you changed the coil for?

[superakan]

how much you changed the coil for?

 

$175, include engine oil and gasket.

[superakan]

Hi guys, this few weeks, i felt that bike is abit difficult to start when left idle for sometimes ( usually overnight), when start the engine, it will not start smoothly, but dies off immediately after engine start, works on 2nd try and sometimes with the help of a bit throttle to keep the engine alive. Is it because of cold engine ? I have been riding phantom custom 3 for many years and never encounter this before since i take over this custom 4. Any solution to solve this ? Carbon Starter changed recently.

[velocity325]

$175, include engine oil and gasket.

 

o.O..okay ride safe ^^

[velocity325]

Hi guys, this few weeks, i felt that bike is abit difficult to start when left idle for sometimes ( usually overnight), when start the engine, it will not start smoothly, but dies off immediately after engine start, works on 2nd try and sometimes with the help of a bit throttle to keep the engine alive. Is it because of cold engine ? I have been riding phantom custom 3 for many years and never encounter this before since i take over this custom 4. Any solution to solve this ? Carbon Starter changed recently.

 

 

hahas, old bike..always like that..even super four spec three, auto starter, engine also can die when idle..just throttle it to 3, then listen to the engine sound till it is stable, then release throttle slowly and just wait a while for bike to warm up..

 

choke start it ? but remember to close choke valve after time, you wont want a engine overheating..and also, gently, dont just pop the button back..

[superakan]

hahas, old bike..always like that..even super four spec three, auto starter, engine also can die when idle..just throttle it to 3, then listen to the engine sound till it is stable, then release throttle slowly and just wait a while for bike to warm up..

 

choke start it ? but remember to close choke valve after time, you wont want a engine overheating..and also, gently, dont just pop the button back..

 

Could Spark Plug also the cause of this problem ?

[velocity325]

maybe you would like to ride your bike to any service shops to just get your EO and Spark Plug changed ba..the mech over there would also look look see see your whole bike and advise you..where you stay?

[xavez]

Last time I also had cold start idling problems. Bike would die off after idling for a while when starting in the morning. Went to Planet tell Ah Chong the problem, left my bike there for a few days, got it back then no problem le.

 

According to him the carb got problem. What he did to it i dunno cuz when I collecting my bike he very busy, didn want to trouble him.

Oh and cost was about $20+

[velocity325]

oh! wash carb and some good one also re tune for you..

[superakan]

ok thanks.

[jB]

Is this the most updated list? Ups! good job on helping others answer their questions bikers

Phantom TA200/TA150 List of Problems and Solution

 

Problem 1: Exhaust emitting white smoke.

Reason: Engine oil is leaking into your chamber.

Solution: Pistol rings needs to be changed. Go to a bike workshop.

 

Reason: Your bike has a 2 stroke engine(ta150).

Solution: Its normal.

 

 

Problem 2: Engine stalls in heavy rain and unable / weak to start.

Reason: Spark plug could be getting wet by the rain causing it not not function

Solution: Remove, dry the spark plug and put it back properly. Go get the plug cap replaced.

 

Reason: Air fuel mixture may be too rich or lean.

Solution: Tune your carb to a leaner setting (turn screw anti-clockwise by 1/4).

Turning the screw clockwise to enrich the mixture. (once again, tune in 1/4 or 1/2 turns of the air correction screw, located on the LEFT side of the carb)

Bike tends to rev rapidly but have poor acceleration if lean, and if too rich, will have "spongy" / slow throttle response at high speeds.

If in need of advise / demonstration sms pandora's kitten at 93270801 (advice/demo given is FOC)

 

Reason: Air leakages.

Solution: Change some of the rubber parts in tank.

 

Reason: Air filter clogged.

Solution : Get your air filter changed. You are advised to inspect the air filter every 4000 or so kms and change it at 10k (Honda warranty service manual)

 

Problem 3: Flat / Punctured Tyres

Solution: Try to inflate tyre with portable pump / bicycle pump then go bike or tyre shop. DO NOT ride on flat tyres as they may damage your tyre or wheel.

 

Solution: Use tyre repair kit, plug and pump = good to go. Kit can be bought at LAB.

Solution 2: Buy a can of fix a flat from Carrefour or petrol stations, put it in your box.

 

Problem 4: Cannot / Hard to start bike

Reason: Battery may be weak (confirmed by a tick sound from the right side cover under the seat).

Solution: Push Start(Clutch in after running with bike, release, give a quick throttle and clutch in) and go get battery replaced or ride to charge(if still can be charged).

You are advised to use third gear to push start (due to Phantom's short gearing) or even fourth on very slippery driveways (such as on some landed properties)

 

Reason: Fuse may be blown.

Solution: Check Fuse. Fuse is located on right side of bike. Remove chrome cover under the seat and see. Look out for the centre of the fuse if its broken then FUSED lor. Change new one.

 

Reason: Bike is in gear, kill switch is on, no petrol.

Solution: Obvious.

 

Reason: Rectifier issue (despite new battery, bike soon becomes hard to start again)

Solution: Get mechanic to check with a voltage meter. Ah chong has one.

 

Reason: Petrol topped up too full - Don't laugh.

Solution: The petrol tank is not meant to be filled to the brim. Leave some space for air.

 

Reason: Water in petrol

Solution: Check that fuel cap is secure and no leaks

 

++ Reason: If everything is working fine CDI might be spoilt

Solution: Tow to shop and change..2nd hand one will cause app $100 1st hand $200+

Others:

- Check ignition coil for sparks.

- Check magneto coil.

 

 

Problem 5: Cant go more den 80 km/h

Reason: You are not in the 6th gear

Solution: Down 1 time 1st gear. up 5 times to sixth gear

Solution: If you have very poor acceleration when throttle is opened, you are running lean. Enrich mixture by 1/2 to 1 turn of the air correction screw.

 

Reason: If confirm no 6th gear, gear box may be in bad shape

Solution: Go to a reputable workshop for a checkup, may need to over haul.

 

Reason: Insufficient Engine Oil (Very bad)

Solution: Check with dipstick as according to manual. Buy Engine Oil from petrol kiosk and top up.

 

Reason: Clutch may have been worn off (Engine reving very high but no power to go any faster)

Solution: Bike shop chance clutch.

 

Reason: Air fuel mixture too rich (Crazy vibrations at higher revs making it too uncomfortable)

Solution: Tune air fuel mixture leaner (Turn screw anti-clockwise 1/2 - 1 round)

 

Reason: Sprocket may be worn off

Solution: Change sprocket and chain.

 

 

Problem 6: Weird sound on my bike

Reason: Might be battery low. (Ticking sound on right side when start button depressed)

Solution: Push start, change battery

 

Reason: If sound is on gearbox side, chain may be too slack

Solution: Check your chain tension 1st. Should have about 2 to 3cm slack, tested at the center of the bottom span of the chain. Anything more, get it tightened. Also, lubricate your chain.

Solution: If you are using spray on chain lube, dirt and grease may be thrown off the chain during normal operation. When a lot of grease accumulates on the chain tensioner (rubber cylinder) and swingarm protector (rubber bar) the chain will emit a loud sound as though running through sand. Scrape and wipe away the excess grease and enjoy the quietness.

 

 

Problem 7: - Exhaust Header got holes. Can repair?

Reason: Got one specific hole which is ok.

Solution: If unsure, post some pictures.

 

 

Problem 8: - Engine oil Dip stick broken (Broken part might be in engine)

Solution:

- Send to bikeshop.

- New dipstick costs around $11.

 

 

Problem 9: I have tried everything but to no avail. Any tow numbers please?

Solution:

- 67474740 Tiko cheong.

- 64560018 Wing Yap.

- 97384501 => Hello, you the tua chia one?

 

 

Problem 10: Engine Part Leaking Oil

Reason: Gasket Spoilt.

Solution: Bike shop, get it replaced

 

Reason: Cam chain tensioner spoilt.

Solution: Bike shop, get it replaced

 

 

Problem 11: When riding, bike lean to one side. Let go of handlebar, steering was shaky and wobbling

Reason: Might be steering cone problem.

Solution: Go bike shop to get it fixed. May also need re-alignment.

 

Reason: Wheel bearings spoilt.

Solution: Bike shop, get it changed.

 

Reason: Wheel alignment might have problem.

Solution: Bike shop, get it fixed.

 

 

Problem 12: Speedo is not working

Reason: The cable, or the gear at the end of the cable is spoilt or loose.

Solution: If loose, plug it back or tighten. Else needs replacement, go bike shop.

 

Reason: Speedo spoilt.

Solution: Bike shop.

 

 

Problem 13: My exhaust gives have a loud bang regularly. (Backfire)

Reason: Air fuel mixture too rich or too lean.

Solution: Retune the carb. (check problem 24)

 

 

Problem 14: I lost my bike Key!!! What to do??

Solution: Go find the key smith.

 

Solution: If want to change ignition, look for Ah Chong (Planet) or scrapyard.

 

 

Problem 15: Bike pickup super slow. Even slower than small cc cars.

Reason: Clutch is worn

Solution: Change your clutch plates.

Solution: Fuel/air mixture too lean giving poor acceleration and a hot engine

 

Problem 16: Damaged Exhaust: Header got hole / Muffler loose or dropping.

Solution: Header got hole can weld it up.

Solution: Muffler dropping can cut open the pipe and take it out but pipe will sound louder.

Solution: Alternatively can change the whole system, pipe + header, about 300+-.

 

Problem 17: Hard to kick the gears

Reason: Clutch is worn

Solution: Change or top up EO.

Solution: Change clutch plate.

 

Reason: Your clutch cable is breaking.

Solution: Replace your clutch cable

 

Problem 18: When cold start, bike got "tick tick" sound

Reason: cam chain tensioner spoilt.

Solution: Change the cam chain tensioner.

Solution: If its rattling sound instead of "tick tick" sound, bring bike to mechanic.

 

Problem 19: Bike wobble for no apparent reason.

Reason: Might have problem with wheel bearings or tyre pressure.

Solution: Check that the tyre pressure is correct.

Solution: If tyre pressure is correct, most probably is the bearing spoilt.

Solution:Change new bearings.

 

Problem 20: In Vehicle Unit (IU) Spoilt.

Reason: There is a whole lot of reason, old, water seep in, etc etc.

Solution: But a second hand IU but need to transfer name.

Solution: Buy a new IU at $155.80 w GST.

Solution: Don't go into carparks or go through ERP.

 

Problem 21: Weak Battery.

Reason: Battery old. Cannot charge or hold properly. etc etc

Solution: Recharge the battery (Wet), Dry ones cannot be recharged?.

Solution: Most people change batteries instead of recharging.

Solution: If leaving bike alone for a long time, disconnect the battery to prevent further unnecessary drainage.

 

Problem 22: Need to step real hard for brake lights to light up.

Reason: There is a knob for adjustment, it might be loose

Solution: There is a black screw lookalike plastic knob( near the spring) located somewhere near the rear brake pedal. u can play around with the knob by turning to adjust the sensitivity of your rear brake when you apply brake.

 

Problem 23: IU Spoilt.

Reason: No reason in particular. If its spoilt, its spoilt.

Solution: Inspect at Vicom. Replace a new one if under warranty. If not, have to buy a new one at about $155 (Slim).

 

Problem 24: Backfire tooooo frequent. Like 3-5 times a day. Or when u stop normally, not even sudden brake.

Reason: Gasket at exhaust head leaking air. Or #2, Exhaust has holes

Solution: Replace gasket. Or #2, send it to Planet Motor (ahchong) to weld the holes, or get a second-hand exhaust or get one cheaper exhaust at LAB (must make order)

Solution: Fuel-air mixture likely too rich. Backfires when throttle is closed, due to residual fuel afterburning in the exhaust header. This is bad for the valves and the catalytic converter.

 

25: After turning off my engine there is a tick tick tick sound some where.

Reason: Exhast pipe is cooling down. Hot it expands so cold it turns back.

Solution: Do DIY exhaust wrap. Reduced backpressure = faster heat evacuation, leading to high speed silent running and silent cooldown after engine off. (Pandora's Kitten :3)

 

Problem 26: Cannot find neutral gear!

Solution: Gear oil not suitable, change different grade of gear oil (see gearoil thread for details)

Solution: Gear box dying.

Solution: Engine is overheated. (Running too lean/ Not enough engine oil. An overheating engine may cause excessive oil consumption, especially when using less tolerant mineral oil)

Solution: Clutch freeplay not enough

 

Problem 27: Handlebar position is not centered (while riding). Handlebars are "straight" but wheel points to one side.

Solution: Lock the wheel, grab the handlebars firmly and twist the bars until straightened. The risers are flexible to some degree, due to the vibration damping rubber washers. (Demonstrated by Planet Motors)

Solution: If your steering lock is spoilt, put the wheel against a pillar or a wall.

 

Problem 28: Bike hard to U-turn. Riding position not comfortable as handlebars too high up.

Solution: Adjust the angle of the handlebars. Loosen the bottom two screws of the risers, pull back the bars so they "rise" towards your face. This will give you a more relaxed riding posture and you are able to enjoy a greater turning angle at low speeds. If your handlebars are set to rise straight upwards forcing you to stretch forward and upwards to steer, your elbows will prevent you from turning easily at low speeds.

[jB]

Updated! http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php/199965-Technical-Possible-Solutions-to-your-Phantom-s-Problem?p=4486192&viewfull=1#post4486192

[aep]

Hi guys, I'm a new Phantom rider, just got a 2nd hand one about 3 months ago. It's quite old, from 2002. Anyway been having problems with it dying when bike is idle in the rain or when going with low speed when i clutch in to change gear. Any ideas what might fix this and also if this is a common problem with old Phantoms? Any bike service shops that are good with Phantoms in particular? Thanks!

[naim]

sounds like carburetor problem. drop by Planet Motors at ubi and let the boss ahchong check it out for u.

[Allen]

Anyone know how to solve the meter vibration sound, i always go at 130,140 my meter vibrate until very noisy.

[CSV]

your meter loose? check if the 2 screws are tight.

 

i have the meter vibration sound, but only on high rpm.

 

normally go 110-120. 6th gear then is damn obvious, cringgggggg sound.

[naim]

try putting rubber washers below the screws? maybe can dampen abit. mine is ok up to 130+. sumtyms my IU cover rattles but still tolerable lar..

[jonaslaso24]

Hey guys.. My bike fell on the right side while riding and now there's a huge dent in the fuel tank. And the foot brake pedal on the right side's bend upwards and the head light and right signal light isn't working anymore and the head light's sorta shifted and now its facing to the right more...

 

Anyone can tell me how much is it to get it all fixed?

 

And any other possible problems that might happen? Like... Steering cone off alignment and stuff?

 

-New fuel tank...

-Foot Brake Pedal..

-Cost to fix the lights..

 

Anyone can please advice on this! Many thanksss!

[CSV]

would be at least 150 bucks above. i had a drop like you but my fuel tank was ok. so you can expect around 200 plus.

[Silent Hunter]

Recommend you go Planet.

 

Fix the essentials first, fuel tank as long as not leaking can fix later.

Brake pedal, headlight and signal lights comes first.

 

You ok right?

[jonaslaso24]

Yea.. I'm alright it was my friend who 'crashed' it actually. Pretty mad about it but he said he's gonna cover the damages..

But yea.. Went to take a look at it again and realized that the wheel's not aligned anymore. :S I.e when the handle bar's straight the wheel's not straight..

Can that be fixed? or it'll require major work..

 

And 200 plus should cover which parts? I heard a fuel tank alone's gonna cost 300+?

 

Thanks guys...

[CSV]

2nd hand fuel tank maybe 100?

 

150 will cover signal, headlamp, aligment.

[Silent Hunter]

Damn! If I still had my old tank, can sell to you. Good condition, emblems still on it. Lend it to a forumer Westone because he was respraying his bike, last year until now haven't return.

 

Now cannot find him already.

[jonaslaso24]

Ah.. Alright thanks guys.

 

So I'll probably estimate the total cost to be 300+?

 

And anything else I should look out for that might be damaged after a fall like that? :S

[CSV]

footpeg, shifter depending on which side the bike landed on.