[Technical] Possible Solutions to your Phantom's Problem

[sawfly]

Finally gotten my bike back. Totally felt like a new bike. Engine sound different, feeling also different. Its alot smoother. Ticking sound is gone as well. Finally.....

 

that's great! Meanwhile gotta ride not so fast and ride safe during the break in period! what eo are u using now for the initial break in?

[mrkyn83]

maybe have to change clutch plates? when u change engine oil u might see alot of the abraded particulates from the clutch friction plates in your used eo. if its slipping and you do not replace it you might overwork and overheat the engine? the crankcase tends to be quite hot when my clutch plates were razed flat.

 

Yes my clutch plate finish, change new clutch plate and ok now

[sawfly]

Yes my clutch plate finish, change new clutch plate and ok now

good to hear! =D

[Spark_135]

that's great! Meanwhile gotta ride not so fast and ride safe during the break in period! what eo are u using now for the initial break in?

 

Haha riding between 60 and 70 now. Freaking slow. Over taken even by buses. Think actual speed only 40km/h. Now using Mobil Super 4T Mineral Oil. Cause gonna change oil at 1000km, no point get semi or synthetic, waste $$ only.

[Spark_135]

Here's a list of things i changed during my overhaul:

 

Piston

Piston Ring

Piston Pin (Gudgeon pin)

Rebore of block

Cam Shaft

Timing Chain

Front Sprocket

Gear Paider (Gear switcher aka gear selection lever)

Spark Plug

Rear brake switch

Engine Oil

Workmanship

 

Total damage is $479.50

 

Anyway i've taken home my old piston and an unknown 2 stroke piston. Will take some photos of them and put up some description and their differences soon when i got time

Edited September 22, 2012 by Spark_135

[Silent Hunter]

Wah! $479.50 that's cheap for so many things done!

The $479.50 includes cost of all the parts purchased right?

[KwanYu]

Does Anyone knows where i can get all the replica of phantom tools (the set of tools that comes with the bike behind the right chrome cover). I "littered" my tools along CTE while riding with the tools compartment cover off. didn't manage to recover all.

missing:

-All Spanners

-Plastic grip for the interchangeable screw

-Rear shock adjusting spanner

[sawfly]

Here's a list of things i changed during my overhaul:

 

Piston

Piston Ring

Piston Pin (Gudgeon pin)

Rebore of block

Cam Shaft

Timing Chain

Front Sprocket

Gear Paider (Gear switcher aka gear selection lever)

Spark Plug

Rear brake switch

Engine Oil

Workmanship

 

Total damage is $479.50

 

Anyway i've taken home my old piston and an unknown 2 stroke piston. Will take some photos of them and put up some description and their differences soon when i got time

 

wow u replaced yr front sprocket? the drive chain front sprocket? and that's almost a new engine altogether!

[sawfly]

Does Anyone knows where i can get all the replica of phantom tools (the set of tools that comes with the bike behind the right chrome cover). I "littered" my tools along CTE while riding with the tools compartment cover off. didn't manage to recover all.

missing:

-All Spanners

-Plastic grip for the interchangeable screw

-Rear shock adjusting spanner

 

i got all my spanners and the screwdriver with replaceable drive tip from from daiso imm but i think i think the length of the spanners cant go into the tool compartment.

(they dont have the size 22 box spanner though)

pin spanner was from LAB.

[Spark_135]

wow u replaced yr front sprocket? the drive chain front sprocket? and that's almost a new engine altogether!

 

Yeap front drive chain sprocket. Got worn and sharpened alr. Rear also going to give but still got some life left.

 

Wah! $479.50 that's cheap for so many things done!

The $479.50 includes cost of all the parts purchased right?

 

Yeah. Its workmanship + parts costs.

[sawfly]

Yeap front drive chain sprocket. Got worn and sharpened alr. Rear also going to give but still got some life left.

 

 

 

Yeah. Its workmanship + parts costs.

 

hmmm i thought it would be better to replace the fronr rear sprocket + chain one shot? i hope front sprocket aint expensive in terms of parts!

[Spark_135]

hmmm i thought it would be better to replace the fronr rear sprocket + chain one shot? i hope front sprocket aint expensive in terms of parts!

 

Yeah even wear. But didnt think of that until now hahaha. Hmmm not really exp, just $18. Now after doing so much at the shop, im going back there to do all other repairs and servicings, even better, its just 5mins ride from my hse!

[sawfly]

Yeah even wear. But didnt think of that until now hahaha. Hmmm not really exp, just $18. Now after doing so much at the shop, im going back there to do all other repairs and servicings, even better, its just 5mins ride from my hse!

 

nvm la, if its 18sgd only for the moments just tahan and monitor the chain wear a little big. the only pain to me is that cleaning chain is a pain without a center stand.

u heng u live near the workshop! everytime i hv to go down to ubi i hv to go down all the way from the north!

not so convenient for me so next time may go to the workshop u went to and take a look!

[jB]

Nice to see my thread useful to people ;]

[Spark_135]

nvm la, if its 18sgd only for the moments just tahan and monitor the chain wear a little big. the only pain to me is that cleaning chain is a pain without a center stand.

u heng u live near the workshop! everytime i hv to go down to ubi i hv to go down all the way from the north!

not so convenient for me so next time may go to the workshop u went to and take a look!

 

Which part of north u stay? If woodlands or marsiling u can try coming via bke. If yishun ubi isnt very far haha. Btw the shop name is Lee Huat Motor along Bukit Timah opposite a condo called The Linear. U have to come from timah facing woodlands road direction. Otherwise u cant see it as the mrt works is in the way. Company has been there for 30 or even 40 over years. My dad bought a bike there in 1980 and maintained it there too. Now i follow his footsteps

[sawfly]

Which part of north u stay? If woodlands or marsiling u can try coming via bke. If yishun ubi isnt very far haha. Btw the shop name is Lee Huat Motor along Bukit Timah opposite a condo called The Linear. U have to come from timah facing woodlands road direction. Otherwise u cant see it as the mrt works is in the way. Company has been there for 30 or even 40 over years. My dad bought a bike there in 1980 and maintained it there too. Now i follow his footsteps

 

i live in woodlands! will drop by someday just that i hate going to bt timah area because of the permanent road works and the twisting roads there!

[sawfly]

Which part of north u stay? If woodlands or marsiling u can try coming via bke. If yishun ubi isnt very far haha. Btw the shop name is Lee Huat Motor along Bukit Timah opposite a condo called The Linear. U have to come from timah facing woodlands road direction. Otherwise u cant see it as the mrt works is in the way. Company has been there for 30 or even 40 over years. My dad bought a bike there in 1980 and maintained it there too. Now i follow his footsteps

 

i live in woodlands! will drop by someday just that i hate going to bt timah area because of the permanent road works and the twisting roads there!

[sawfly]

Nice to see my thread useful to people ;]

 

the list is not updated though! gotta update it soon!

[henchster]

Which part of north u stay? If woodlands or marsiling u can try coming via bke. If yishun ubi isnt very far haha. Btw the shop name is Lee Huat Motor along Bukit Timah opposite a condo called The Linear. U have to come from timah facing woodlands road direction. Otherwise u cant see it as the mrt works is in the way. Company has been there for 30 or even 40 over years. My dad bought a bike there in 1980 and maintained it there too. Now i follow his footsteps

 

hi spark135, do you happen to have their address? I stay at woodlands too, and really a hassle going all the way to ubi for maintenance. I guess they are good and can compare with planet?

[sawfly]

quick question: has anyone tried to adjust the throttle free play before? the lock nut and the adjuster is hidden under this rubber sleeve that's like impossible to slip off and all i can do is make the adjustment by feeling the adjuster through the rubber sleeve?

[naim]

quick question: has anyone tried to adjust the throttle free play before? the lock nut and the adjuster is hidden under this rubber sleeve that's like impossible to slip off and all i can do is make the adjustment by feeling the adjuster through the rubber sleeve?

 

u can do so at the carb oso. look at ur engine on the right-hand-side and play wif ur throttle. can see one. very obvious. then just adjust the 2 lock nuts until u get the right freeplay.

[sawfly]

u can do so at the carb oso. look at ur engine on the right-hand-side and play wif ur throttle. can see one. very obvious. then just adjust the 2 lock nuts until u get the right freeplay.

 

yeah i saw though i was worried i might overloosen the lock nuts and the screw housing there.. somehow i managed to adjust by feeling the rubber housing already! im just hoping that throttle cable wun rust cos i kinda cracked the rubber sleeving last night -__-

[Spark_135]

hi spark135, do you happen to have their address? I stay at woodlands too, and really a hassle going all the way to ubi for maintenance. I guess they are good and can compare with planet?

 

Yeah alot of uncles go there. But youngsters seldom go there because of one thing: They use majority, if not all, original parts and have seldom aftermarket parts. But their workmanship is good, IMO. Can be on par with planet (so far thats my opinion).

 

Address: 873/875 Upper Bukit Timah Road, Singapore 678176

 

Its basically a shophouse. The entire shophouse is theirs, below is office cum workshop, above is their dwellings, altho not used most of the time. DO NOT travel at high speed when going to the shop, else if u miss the shop u gotta make a long u-turn trip.

[henchster]

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Yeah alot of uncles go there. But youngsters seldom go there because of one thing: They use majority, if not all, original parts and have seldom aftermarket parts. But their workmanship is good, IMO. Can be on par with planet (so far thats my opinion).

 

Address: 873/875 Upper Bukit Timah Road, Singapore 678176

 

Its basically a shophouse. The entire shophouse is theirs, below is office cum workshop, above is their dwellings, altho not used most of the time. DO NOT travel at high speed when going to the shop, else if u miss the shop u gotta make a long u-turn trip.

 

 

Oh okay thanks for the address and review will visit them soon

[Spark_135]

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Oh okay thanks for the address and review will visit them soon

 

No prob. So far i know 2 mechanics alr, 1 is a goofy look uncle wearing uncle style specs. 30 over years of experience as a bike mechanic. Another is a malay chap that is friendly too. Theres one more mechanic whom the shop call ah di. But not close to him. My opinion if do some stuffs at one shot is cheaper here. If one item at a time, over time its rather expensive.

 

Anyway just to check, are my front wheel bearings shot? When i let go of front brake, the bike tend to rattle. When i depress the brake, the rattling cuts down by 75% (Could the bearings be loose, hence when idling the wheels are moving about the bearings resulting in the extra vibration?). When cornering on a road that has uneven road (not bumpy, just not evenly flat) surface my bike tends to veer in random directions, same goes when im riding on straights and road is uneven. Can feel the bike going left n right. Dont think its steering cones/bearing as its tight and turns smoothly.