HKL WARNING!

[jonkuek]

being to hkl 3 times, every time dissapointed, the 3rd time really cannot take it anymore, told myself its the last time i go there, till now, very long time didn't even see their green signboard already.

[Aie]

Originally posted by Cybernation@July 08, 2006 01:22 pm

I just came back from there. Having my bike doing dyno at Unity. Need a good coolant like Engine Ice. Previously I bought in Motorworld at 35bucks per btl. Now? 42!! Buy 2 btl of coolant at 84bucks!! Faintz.. I had no choice but to LL get from them. Now island wide no stock. Even the agent Sporting dun havem. Sigh... Dont think will go back there again.

NBZ! I was charged $48 for a bottle of Engine Ice by Ah San...

[plasticblackspecs]

Originally posted by Ones_Co@February 01, 2007 12:26 am

......

 

When i go there or any other shop i will stand next to the mechanic

 

and see everything he do....

 

As repect i will tell the mechanic that i will like to see because i can learn from him

 

I will ask everything he do is for wat....

 

1st i learn more about bike

2nd i will know whether he doing the right thing

 

even when change type i will follow him to see wat he do....

 

ask wat is the number on the type he going to change for me mean wat ?

 

if date too old i will ask again...

 

whether can don change to that anot

 

but normally at HKL very hard to find old type as i think they sell it too fast...

 

i will stand there see that the balance is "0R0L"

 

than see him pump the type pressure...

 

and follow him back to the bike make sure the chain and other thing is

 

fix back as wat it is to be....

 

i will demand for standard....

 

if they don do as wat is to be done i will go find ah keong

 

and ask him to do for me....

wow. That's quite time consuming. Have to take whole day leave just to get your bike fixed. I would love to leave my bike at the shop in the morning and go to work. Evening come back and collect. But that would mean having to find a very reliable bike shop and good mechanic which isn't easy to find. Got good and bad la I guess. Sigh.

 

I also quite scared go to shops cos all I know about bikes is from what I read or what people tell me (if I remember) or I ask my friends. Last time I first time go servicing also didn't know anything. Didn't understand why must service every month or so or change oil 3000km or 3 months and all that stuff, went service at 6 months when bike like wanna die already. In the end pay so much. Also dunno what they did. Another 6 months later my wheel gone and I changed it. 1 year only change engine oil once. Of course in that year when my 'P' plate over my bike also over. Sprocket, chain, gear, brakes all gone. Can scrap already. hahaha

[Arcfire]

Originally posted by DeusExMachina@July 22, 2006 04:31 am

When something funny happens to your bike, you should first check with friends, other bikers, and even the Internet... before you panic and go running to a bike shop. Of course, if you have a trusted mechanic, life is easier... but not everybody got this luck.

 

 

I once had a prob with my bike. Didn't run to mechanic straightaway. Checked with friends riding similar bike. Then I went to an Internet discussion group. Finally I checked with my regular mechanic (who's honest BTW, but I just wanted more feedback from elsewhere to verify), and they all said the same thing. I fixed the problem with the help of a forummer here.

 

So just fish around for information first before you run crying to an unknown bikeshop. If your problem is not serious, it won't hurt to do some research first. Otherwise, take the bus for a couple of days. Better than being chopped to bits.

 

 

 

Honestly, I feel that quite a number of local bike shops are just waiting to chop you to little pieces. Probably due to the high competition here. They're trying to earn every little penny they can get off their customers.

 

A lot of them believe in squeezing every customer that comes their way. Nevermind if that customer never ever comes back after a bad experience. No need for regular customers wat...

 

.... After all, there's always the next newbie 2B rider that just passed to chop.

 

 

Singapore culture?

Yeah, it seems that they do not feel that there is a need for regular customers. Makes me wonder how these shops manage to survive for so long just chopping those still new and less knowledgeable.

 

Everyone starts as a newbie. We gain experience as we encounter problems and mistakes. So sometimes its really better if we can learn these mistakes from others and not make the same ones when it happens. Tat is what this forum is all about. Learning more about the bike you wish to purchase, making an informed decision.

 

I do not completely agree that we have to ensure that our bikes are ok before leaving the shop but in the land of the cut-throat, slip-shod workmanship, we do have to keep an occasional eye on the mechanic. Even for my regular mechanic, i'll look at him do my bike, not to ensure that he does a gd job but rather to learn more about my bike. At the same time i ask questions or doubts raised in the forum to get a clearer picture. In the case of a real screw up, I do expect the workshop to take responsibililty, after all, why am I paying for them to screw up?

 

If you think its ok for them to screw up, let me fix your bike at the void deck instead. I'll charge a lower price , mabbe leave a screw or 2 in your crankcase, throw away your fuel tubes "by mistake". What? How can? C'mon, pple make mistakes........Sorry Sorry k? $Kaching!!!$ Easy money.

 

So for those that met with unpleasant experiences, dun blame yourself. We were all young once.......

[Ones_Co]

Originally posted by plasticblackspecs@February 01, 2007 08:45 am

wow. That's quite time consuming. Have to take whole day leave just to get your bike fixed. I would love to leave my bike at the shop in the morning and go to work. Evening come back and collect. But that would mean having to find a very reliable bike shop and good mechanic which isn't easy to find. Got good and bad la I guess. Sigh.

 

I also quite scared go to shops cos all I know about bikes is from what I read or what people tell me (if I remember) or I ask my friends. Last time I first time go servicing also didn't know anything. Didn't understand why must service every month or so or change oil 3000km or 3 months and all that stuff, went service at 6 months when bike like wanna die already. In the end pay so much. Also dunno what they did. Another 6 months later my wheel gone and I changed it. 1 year only change engine oil once. Of course in that year when my 'P' plate over my bike also over. Sprocket, chain, gear, brakes all gone. Can scrap already. hahaha

heheh....

 

Cause it is time for u to change upgrade ur bike liao....

 

Old bike don go New bike don come ....

 

hehe...

 

jus joking..

[Cerius]

hmmm...maybe because i spend some money there then i nver have much bad experience with them ba? i didnt buy my bike from there but i repair and change parts there. so far went 2 times, change tyres, sprocket, chain, and some other minor stuff. So far nothing loose or anything wrong for my bike for 1 month le...

 

guess it all depends on your luck ba

[plasticblackspecs]

Originally posted by Ones_Co@February 01, 2007 11:08 am

heheh....

 

Cause it is time for u to change upgrade ur bike liao....

 

Old bike don go New bike don come ....

 

hehe...

 

jus joking..

hahahaha..no worries. Anyway I DO have a new bike now. A new old bike.

[byon]

months ago when i just passed my bike, ahzh*ng wanted to quote me $3.6k for a SP (FR plate). ridiculous.

 

anyway, i bought helmets from HKL, the two young ladies in their very-early 20s who tendered to me were friendly & also pretty! =D

[plasticblackspecs]

Two young ladies? Maybe it IS time to go check HKL out.

[Sn0w_MaN]

ppls can i ask, if i plan to get bike from hkl izzit trustworthy, i mean in the sense that when purchase liao got warrenty and bike not so rosa one. Pls give some advise, especially those who had buy bike from there

[hailang_82]

Originally posted by byon@February 05, 2007 02:53 am

months ago when i just passed my bike, ahzh*ng wanted to quote me $3.6k for a SP (FR plate). ridiculous.

 

anyway, i bought helmets from HKL, the two young ladies in their very-early 20s who tendered to me were friendly & also pretty! =D

the one that served me was also quite pretty.. dunnoe her name but looks mature compare to the rest..

[ghost04]

Originally posted by Sn0w_MaN@February 05, 2007 09:22 am

ppls can i ask, if i plan to get bike from hkl izzit trustworthy, i mean in the sense that when purchase liao got warrenty and bike not so rosa one. Pls give some advise, especially those who had buy bike from there

if u ask me i will say can trust ma...cos my current bike bought from them one...1st day ride back gearbox spoil 2nd day go back. i spent from 0930 to 1900hrs just to see them assemble and disassemble the whole engine block. i got photos to prove. they warranty my bike all the way till now bike got any problem they still change the parts for me free and not charging any labor less servicing must pay la..i can help u get good price.

[Arcfire]

Originally posted by ghostwaver@February 05, 2007 12:19 pm

if u ask me i will say can trust ma...cos my current bike bought from them one...1st day ride back gearbox spoil 2nd day go back. i spent from 0930 to 1900hrs just to see them assemble and disassemble the whole engine block. i got photos to prove. they warranty my bike all the way till now bike got any problem they still change the parts for me free and not charging any labor less servicing must pay la..i can help u get good price.

Tat sounds pretty gd.... But with all second bikes, its a gamble to purchase whether its from private owner or with a bike shop. Whether or not the bike shop will honour the repairs for the bike in the case of anything spoiling is another thing altogether. ITs not always a clear cut thing, which is frustrating for new bike owners....

[Sn0w_MaN]

ok well guy thank for ur advise well 1 of my fren's fren planning to transfer hid rvf to me but bike dealer is hkl i have never deal with them b4 so dunno whether trustworthy anot. I mean if u take over liao anything happen the pervious owner can do much u have to refer to bike shop.

[ghost04]

Originally posted by Sn0w_MaN@February 05, 2007 06:29 pm

ok well guy thank for ur advise well 1 of my fren's fren planning to transfer hid rvf to me but bike dealer is hkl i have never deal with them b4 so dunno whether trustworthy anot. I mean if u take over liao anything happen the pervious owner can do much u have to refer to bike shop.

if u can discover any major problems within the first few days they will contact the previous owner and see wat can be done. my gearbox 1st day 6th gear cannot engage liao next day ah zh*n called the previous owner down and after some discussion the owner paid the price of a new gearbox for my bike.

[Arcfire]

Originally posted by ghostwaver@February 07, 2007 02:51 pm

if u can discover any major problems within the first few days they will contact the previous owner and see wat can be done. my gearbox 1st day 6th gear cannot engage liao next day ah zh*n called the previous owner down and after some discussion the owner paid the price of a new gearbox for my bike.

Just curious here... you mentioned that you bought the bike from the shop. So shouldn't it be the responsibility of the shop to do whatever repair is needed on the bike? Why would the previous owner be implicated in any way? If the previous owner is liable for such repair costs, whether or not he knows about the issue before he sold the bike, den who would want to sell to a motorshop?

 

For all you know they may call you up to ask you to pay for a repair on the bike months after you sold the bike....... Meaning the warranty being borne by the previous owner, not the shop.... So y sell to shop? might as well sell to private owner, get more $$.

 

If you were doing a reloan on the bike i would agree that it was a gd way to settle the issue but if it was bought direct from the bike shop no matter how short a time after the previous owner has sold the bike to the shop then it sounds preposterous to me.

[Guest limpeiwah]

2 points u shouldn't smoke its bad for you and for all repairs do test drive around the shop outside first lor... mechanics also human le.

[OhMiGosh]

simple.. everyone does mistake.. cause we are human.. dont say mechanic.. even some bikes that came out from factory have problems too.. cause its human who are controling the machines.. not machines controling human.. get the point?

[bluelabel]

this de first time i heard ... dat after selling your bike , if anything spoil , u must come back and pay for the spoil part.

[OhMiGosh]

Originally posted by bluelabel@February 12, 2007 05:31 am

this de first time i heard ... dat after selling your bike , if anything spoil , u must come back and pay for the spoil part.

lol for me i will hiew lan or rather hack care the bike shop.. 1 thing is tat u agreed to eat my bike at this price.. why should i bothered to pay for something which i had already sold away? lol same with me.. first time ever that i heard that u gotta pay to change something that u had already sold away ? lol a joke?

[BOGEY102.1]

maybe the seller and buyer both look like carrots?

[Arcfire]

Originally posted by 102.1@February 12, 2007 06:14 am

maybe the seller and buyer both look like carrots?

 

Well, it certainly told us more about the shop doesn't it?

[Yongster]

Originally posted by Arcfire@February 07, 2007 03:46 pm

Just curious here... you mentioned that you bought the bike from the shop. So shouldn't it be the responsibility of the shop to do whatever repair is needed on the bike? Why would the previous owner be implicated in any way? If the previous owner is liable for such repair costs, whether or not he knows about the issue before he sold the bike, den who would want to sell to a motorshop?

 

For all you know they may call you up to ask you to pay for a repair on the bike months after you sold the bike....... Meaning the warranty being borne by the previous owner, not the shop.... So y sell to shop? might as well sell to private owner, get more $$.

 

If you were doing a reloan on the bike i would agree that it was a gd way to settle the issue but if it was bought direct from the bike shop no matter how short a time after the previous owner has sold the bike to the shop then it sounds preposterous to me.

Mayb the seller just put his bike there for sale......if bike shop take in then it shdn't

 

be the seller's problem liao.....

[Arcfire]

If i do remember, the bro specifically stated that he bought the bike from the shop.

Can the bro clarify?

[ghost04]

when i got the bike its only there for 4 days. the previous owner traded in tat bike for a new spec 3. somehow he damaged the gearbox without telling. somemore i first saw it the bike was under repair due to the previous owner skidded b4.clear enough??