CDC Bike Learner

[forkie]

After few yrs...

Finally I wana go try for my 2A liao

Any1 taking soon ? i dont mind the company

[racingter]

Any of you feel that CDC is like the worst place ever to learn riding?

 

My friend tells me she's stuck at lesson 1 because she has trouble stopping smoothly, but everytime she goes for lesson 1, the instructors bring EVERYONE, newbies and re-takers through the same process over and over again, end up she only gets to practice the stop/start part 3 times in the whole lesson!

 

Not once, not twice, but three times already. When I took my lessons at SSDC, instructors would take the Lesson1 group and split them up, newbies got to 'bang tyre wall', re-takers got to practice what they're weak at.

 

How can you expect someone who's new to riding to learn the difficult skill of slow speed control when all they do is go round and round the entire driving centre? I was quite surprised when I heard this. BBDC and SSDC's lesson plan will not allow newbies out of the minicircuit till they get the slow speed clutch/brake/throttle controls right.

 

i neber had the problem,i gotten all my motorbike licence thru CDC and i feel that it is one place that it's intructor really teaches their students well...

 

**NEBER EVER PASS A STUDENT WITHOUT QUALFLYING IT'S MININUIM REQUIREMENT OF IT'S STAGE,EVEN IF THEY PASS THEM,ARE THEY ABLE TO MAKE IT ON THE TP DATE,EVEN IF THEY MANAGE TO PASS THE TP TEST,ARE THEY ABLE TO GET THROUGH THE DIFFICUTIES ON THE BUSY ROAD,REMEMBER,THEY ARE NOT IN THE CIRCUIT ALREADY,THEY ARE FACING RIDERS OR DRIVERS WHO ARE SOMETIMES VERY RECKLESS OR DRUNK,THAT THEY MAY NOT ENCOUNTER WITHIN THE CIRCUIT OR WITH AN INSTRUCTOR FOLLOWING BEHIND THEIR BACK,THEY ARE "LEFT ALONE".**EQUPPED WITH THE BEST RIDING SKILLS THAT THEY LEARN THROUGH THE DRIVING CENTRES WILL DEF HELP THEM TO MINIMISE THE DANGER,TO ESCAPE FROM DEATH.

[louisyhw]

guys and girls just check, how long u all waited for class 2b tp?

[Xenophobia07]

Got...

 

TP on Thursday... Any help? Going for one circuit revision on wed morning... Hope all goes well and can get license...

 

Jia You! Let us know of the good results!

[Xenophobia07]

guys and girls just check, how long u all waited for class 2b tp?

 

I remembered I waited around 7 weeks from my Prac8 to my TP.

[darky]

i neber had the problem,i gotten all my motorbike licence thru CDC and i feel that it is one place that it's intructor really teaches their students well...

 

**NEBER EVER PASS A STUDENT WITHOUT QUALFLYING IT'S MININUIM REQUIREMENT OF IT'S STAGE,EVEN IF THEY PASS THEM,ARE THEY ABLE TO MAKE IT ON THE TP DATE,EVEN IF THEY MANAGE TO PASS THE TP TEST,ARE THEY ABLE TO GET THROUGH THE DIFFICUTIES ON THE BUSY ROAD,REMEMBER,THEY ARE NOT IN THE CIRCUIT ALREADY,THEY ARE FACING RIDERS OR DRIVERS WHO ARE SOMETIMES VERY RECKLESS OR DRUNK,THAT THEY MAY NOT ENCOUNTER WITHIN THE CIRCUIT OR WITH AN INSTRUCTOR FOLLOWING BEHIND THEIR BACK,THEY ARE "LEFT ALONE".**EQUPPED WITH THE BEST RIDING SKILLS THAT THEY LEARN THROUGH THE DRIVING CENTRES WILL DEF HELP THEM TO MINIMISE THE DANGER,TO ESCAPE FROM DEATH.

 

hahaha. and thats because u passed all ur license without going other centres, thats why its good, cause thats the only centre u went to.

 

i will not argue that the instructors there are good, and i think they should. we are in a service-orientated country, they must be good to survive.

 

now the problem is, for eg:

 

CDC

Figure 8 is the first part of the lesson, E-brake and bumpy course, the latter.

now u are already good at figure 8, and had problems with bumpy course, u have to go thru all the figure8 training instead of training which areas im weak at, like bumpy course. we are wasting our time and money doing things we have already learnt.

 

SSDC

U get to go to where u are weak, with an instructor guiding u. period.

 

and when i step into cdc for my practicals, was quite shocked they actually are sharing guards... after all the lessons, sweated out and stained, left there for sunbathing for like 30mins, reuse again, especially bad for those with sensitive skin, and what if the person before u had... ahem.. some skin disease. gg.

 

i would strongly urge cdc to revamp their learning procedures, cause the current one's quite dumb.

 

5cts!

[GuiNNeSS]

Thanks Darky.

 

I think I'm considering asking my friend to change to SSDC, even though its a longer journey to Yio Chu Kang, or an even longer journey to Woodlands.

[honda_lover]

So you passed on first time?

 

yups. first time =]

 

hows urs today ? hope to hear some good news to cheer up the thread

[Fire_Blade]

Thanks Darky.

 

I think I'm considering asking my friend to change to SSDC, even though its a longer journey to Yio Chu Kang, or an even longer journey to Woodlands.

 

 

If your friend is fine with travelling far. Personally I felt though Ubi's instructors are mostly strict and don't let you pass that easily, I think it benefits in the long run. Then again, it's a personal choice.

 

Nevertheless, though Ubi is said to the the most difficult of all the driving centres, the passing rates are the highest. Perhaps a tradeoff between high difficulty and passing rate?

[GuiNNeSS]

If your friend is fine with travelling far. Personally I felt though Ubi's instructors are mostly strict and don't let you pass that easily, I think it benefits in the long run. Then again, it's a personal choice.

 

Nevertheless, though Ubi is said to the the most difficult of all the driving centres, the passing rates are the highest. Perhaps a tradeoff between high difficulty and passing rate?

 

Please understand that I have no problems with having strict instructors and high passing standards. However, I do have a problem with the way lessons are conducted.

 

If there are 5 parts to lesson one, and a particular student is weak in just one part, I don't think its a good teaching method to make the student repeat all 5 parts again, without focusing on the one part where the student is weak.

 

Don't get me wrong, I got my class 2A at CDC, first time passed, only repeated lesson2 because I had problems with the bumpy course. But should I have had trouble learning the bumpy course quickly, I would have to repeat that lesson again and again, having two or three chances each time to attempt the bumpy course.

 

Not very good way to learn a difficult skill in my opinion.

[honda_lover]

still haven hear from vibration_42 ...

[Xenophobia07]

still haven hear from vibration_42 ...

 

Must be pass already, no more CDC thread! Off to the Garage Sales Used Bike Section!

[tabby]

i failed my pract 1 for 6 times in cdc liao. its starting to piss me off cause i onli get to practice my weak areas twice every session where they make you go through the "evaluation" from start to finish every single bloody time. Worse thing is, different instructors actually have slightly different opinions on how a particular skill should be performed and so my technique for the same skill can vary each time. If i take my RTT in cdc, can I go over to other schools to just take the practicals and not pay the $80?

[darky]

different instructors teaches different technique, and u can just ignore them and using ur own technique for the courses, but of cos must be performed smoothly la.

 

the 80 bucks is some sort of registration fees, which is unable to evade. im starting to boycott CDC, feels like transferring to SSDC now. CDC really damn waste time.

[tabby]

For the record, the instructors are mediocre if not lousy. How can they claim to instruct well if a student regardless of his innate abilities can spend 10 hours training and still not get the basics right. Its not as if I have missing limbs. If we include the 2B students who do not even make it to TP in cdc , im sure the % passes is lower if not the same as the other schools.

[darky]

true, but the problem lies in their system. maybe thats one of the reason why they have higher passing rates. is either all gave up cos of time-wastage, or those who perservered all the way, with cash and time.

 

CDC thread no CDC instructors post one meh. i've heard of instructors lurking around SBF all the time...

[honda_lover]

huh ? how u know ppl gave up?

[Metal Gear]

i failed my pract 1 for 6 times in cdc liao. its starting to piss me off cause i onli get to practice my weak areas twice every session where they make you go through the "evaluation" from start to finish every single bloody time. Worse thing is, different instructors actually have slightly different opinions on how a particular skill should be performed and so my technique for the same skill can vary each time. If i take my RTT in cdc, can I go over to other schools to just take the practicals and not pay the $80?

There are always differing techniques on approaching the same problem (e.g how to do the fig 8 etc). They give you their own opinions on how to tackle the same thing or maybe you have found another way. You just need to find the one that you can do best.

 

Whether you can bring forward the RTT to another centre, i'm not sure. You'll need to start back from scratch if you want to register at another centre i think.

[honda_lover]

Must be pass already, no more CDC thread! Off to the Garage Sales Used Bike Section!

 

don have lei.. maybe he go straight to motordiam alr ... hahaha!

[darky]

RTT follows u to wherever u are. pass means pass liao, no need take again unless expired.

[Fire_Blade]

Please understand that I have no problems with having strict instructors and high passing standards. However, I do have a problem with the way lessons are conducted.

 

If there are 5 parts to lesson one, and a particular student is weak in just one part, I don't think its a good teaching method to make the student repeat all 5 parts again, without focusing on the one part where the student is weak.

 

Don't get me wrong, I got my class 2A at CDC, first time passed, only repeated lesson2 because I had problems with the bumpy course. But should I have had trouble learning the bumpy course quickly, I would have to repeat that lesson again and again, having two or three chances each time to attempt the bumpy course.

 

Not very good way to learn a difficult skill in my opinion.

 

For this part I tend to agree with you. I had problems with my narrow plank, which I had to repeat Practical 4 for 4 times before the instructor closed 1 eye and let me pass. After which I went for quite a few circuit revisions before I went for my 5.

 

There is a failure in the system but somehow, it's like they are indirectly influencing ppl not to take up the license due to the high accident rates and so on. They don't really care if you are having problems. A lot of times you are expected to be on your own. But again, here we are in Singapore, not much of a choice anyway.

[honda_lover]

well.... to each his own i guess =]

[darky]

well.... to each his own i guess =]

 

cannot use this sentence for this case scenerio.

 

CDC really needs to revamp its system. its wasting consumers time and money, or they purposely made it this way...

 

for my case, i really damn regret registering there.

 

and i cant wear my auto-blackening aka transition lens! still need waste money again to make another spec...

[tabby]

Come to think of it, there should be a governing body (e.g CASE) which ensures these driving centres comform to a certain level of standard that deserves our hard earned $$$. You may have booked a 100min lesson, but in actual fact u have to divide those minutes by the number of students for that particular lesson. So if there are 10 students, you actually only have 10mins to learn cause u have to wait for the other 9 students turn. So if im a despicable owner of a driving centre, I will make it extremely easy for newbie students to book the first practical. They learn slow, and even slower when there are too many students than the instructor can actually handle. They will end up failing and booking lessons over and over again. LTA will pat me on the back for controlling the number of motorists on the road and I rake in the moolah$$$ from unsuspecting demoralized students who are made to believe they are slow learners.

[Fire_Blade]

Come to think of it, there should be a governing body (e.g CASE) which ensures these driving centres comform to a certain level of standard that deserves our hard earned $$$. You may have booked a 100min lesson, but in actual fact u have to divide those minutes by the number of students for that particular lesson. So if there are 10 students, you actually only have 10mins to learn cause u have to wait for the other 9 students turn. So if im a despicable owner of a driving centre, I will make it extremely easy for newbie students to book the first practical. They learn slow, and even slower when there are too many students than the instructor can actually handle. They will end up failing and booking lessons over and over again. LTA will pat me on the back for controlling the number of motorists on the road and I rake in the moolah$$$ from unsuspecting demoralized students who are made to believe they are slow learners.

 

Precisely the point why no changes have been made yet. Comfort can make money, LTA can control the number of riders on the road, ain't it a win win situation for both sides?

 

Dark side...