Sian!! Higher prices for big bikes

[MR BIKER]

kawasaki ninja h2, many ducati and bmw , bimota, victory , HD,can am, mv agusta, moto guzzi, indian . my guess only because i cant never buy all these bikes ever

[Yahmarhuh]

will be good if can get a hold of a list of bikes with their OMV. From what I know, not many bike OMV are above 20K even among the Ducati, BMW & Harley Davidson

[smallcar]

will be good if can get a hold of a list of bikes with their omv. From what i know, not many bike omv are above 20k even among the ducati, bmw & harley davidson

 

bmw gsa omv 22,804.00

[Yahmarhuh]

bmw gsa omv 22,804.00

 

that's the 1200 GSA... essentially top of the line stuffs.

[smallcar]

that's the 1200 gsa... Essentially top of the line stuffs.

 

bmw k1600 gtl 28,325.00.

[Yahmarhuh]

bmw k1600 gtl 28,325.00.

 

When luxury is freed of all ballast, it moves to a new level. At the very top of this evolution is the new K 1600 GTL – a high-class touring bike like none before it.....

 

http://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/us/en/index.html?content=http://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/us/en/bike/tour/k1600gtl/k1600gtl_overview.html

[smallcar]

When luxury is freed of all ballast, it moves to a new level. At the very top of this evolution is the new K 1600 GTL – a high-class touring bike like none before it.....

 

http://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/us/en/index.html?content=http://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/us/en/bike/tour/k1600gtl/k1600gtl_overview.html

 

cannot afford liao. With this new ****, expect over 75K to 80K for the new K

[MR BIKER]

i hope my dream comes true. in singapore, we actually dont need high powered, big cc bikes. just your average 600cc to 800c is suffice. even going malaysia, we cant really speed. 110km/hr. if bm, hd , and all the bikes companies want their singapore market, they should downsize their bikes. make a mini version of the GSA. 800cc using the same engine for their 800cc bikes BUT with the same shape and shaft drive but of course slightly lower and lighter.

honda also can follow suit. making a bronzewing ---- exactly like their goldwing but 750cc to 800cc with shaft drive. it has been done before in the 80s and 70s

anyway, just a dream because YOU KNOW WHO will wake me up from that dream because they will say, oh no because now you order so many of these 700cc bikes, it has now become a luxury item and many people are bidding for the coe. and guess what . we will introduce a PARF like cars.

 

so its a vicious cycle until something snaps

[Yahmarhuh]

I don't know much about bikes... but don't most brand offers a lower cc version for each models? Of cos not at the same exact specs but a little less features, lower specs. Eg for BMW, many models under touring, sport etc. Ducati also have many CC of their monsters

[smallcar]

i hope my dream comes true. in singapore, we actually dont need high powered, big cc bikes. just your average 600cc to 800c is suffice. even going malaysia, we cant really speed. 110km/hr. if bm, hd , and all the bikes companies want their singapore market, they should downsize their bikes. make a mini version of the GSA. 800cc using the same engine for their 800cc bikes BUT with the same shape and shaft drive but of course slightly lower and lighter.

honda also can follow suit. making a bronzewing ---- exactly like their goldwing but 750cc to 800cc with shaft drive. it has been done before in the 80s and 70s

anyway, just a dream because YOU KNOW WHO will wake me up from that dream because they will say, oh no because now you order so many of these 700cc bikes, it has now become a luxury item and many people are bidding for the coe. and guess what . we will introduce a PARF like cars.

 

so its a vicious cycle until something snaps

 

Its not going to happen. Singapore market too small for the big bike brand to start design n have a production line. They also know one new rules out from ( U know who ). They can kiss their R&D money good bye. Only one word in sin. Buy or cannot afford to own one.

 

U can see cam am brand. New model 3 wheeler over weight and cannot come into Singapore. They dun even bother with Singapore as volume too small

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[Ruusty]

Its not going to happen. Singapore market too small for the big bike brand to start design n have a production line. They also know one new rules out from ( U know who ). They can kiss their R&D money good bye. Only one word in sin. Buy or cannot afford to own one.

 

U can see cam am brand. New model 3 wheeler over weight and cannot come into Singapore. They dun even bother with Singapore as volume too small

 

 

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[Yahmarhuh]

 

Great speech from zehzeh

 

 

 

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hopefully this new ARF will minimise such ppl who takes up 2 or more COEs so that the additiomal COEs can go to common ppl.

 

curious... IF COE goes down to about 4K, which means bikes with OMV below 5K will now cost about 2.5k lesser... helping those with lesser income to buy new bikes and to reduce the cost of COE renewal, do you feel that its a successful policy change? would you be happy?

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[reize]

There is no guarantee COE will even go down. They may have stopped the bleeding effect to Open CAT, but they can just as easily stop adding to the total figure, so every bidding cycle the only pool available are those recycled from deregistered bikes.

[Yahmarhuh]

There is no guarantee COE will even go down. They may have stopped the bleeding effect to Open CAT, but they can just as easily stop adding to the total figure, so every bidding cycle the only pool available are those recycled from deregistered bikes.

 

we will know tomorrow... dats y I'm asking for opinions IF COE goes down to 4K level, how would u guys feel?

 

I', sure most ppl who buys 2B bread & butter bikes will be happy... but those who buy hobby bikes who are the majority of the forummers here will still be affected negatively. I personally am ok to pay more for luxury items if it helps the common folks to make end meets.

[wait4me]

those who continue bread and butter 2b bikes will be happy at the moment

but those who wanna buy additional bikes or upgrade the bikes will face the toughest test

[736cc]

will be good if can get a hold of a list of bikes with their OMV. From what I know, not many bike OMV are above 20K even among the Ducati, BMW & Harley Davidson

 

many angmo brand bikes OMV is over 20k.

[HairyDragon]

curious... IF COE goes down to about 4K, which means bikes with OMV below 5K will now cost about 2.5k lesser... helping those with lesser income to buy new bikes and to reduce the cost of COE renewal, do you feel that its a successful policy change? would you be happy?

 

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[736cc]

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never know my friends

[HairyDragon]

Just checked on SGBIKEMART and 2nd hand bike prices have jumped sky high

 

 

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[Yahmarhuh]

Just checked on SGBIKEMART and 2nd hand bike prices have jumped sky high

 

 

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if they have been unsold before the price hike, no reason for it to be sold now.

[Yahmarhuh]

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u mean all the new bike buyers wont be affected by the new ARF and will still continue their planned purchases? So the increase is no big deal?

[kzone]

 

Great speech from zehzeh

 

 

 

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Y is it great when such multiple bike owners are part of the cause of high COEs? They hog more than 1 COE while our low income fellow riders who needs a bike for basic needs to fight with them for that elusive COE.

 

The increased ARF is supposed to deter multiple bike owners and also those who buy bike for the occasional casual rides.

[reize]

Y is it great when such multiple bike owners are part of the cause of high COEs? They hog more than 1 COE while our low income fellow riders who needs a bike for basic needs to fight with them for that elusive COE.

 

The increased ARF is supposed to deter multiple bike owners and also those who buy bike for the occasional casual rides.

 

ARF isn't going to deter multiple bike owners. It's there to deter people buying luxury bikes.

 

Those who buy 10 under $5000 OMV bikes not affected by the new ARF, but will still fight with you for COE. But those who are content to have just one and only one expensive BMW or Harley or Ducati are punished, even though they are not vying with you for extra COE.

 

Logic leh.

[kzone]

ARF isn't going to deter multiple bike owners. It's there to deter people buying luxury bikes.

 

Those who buy 10 under $5000 OMV bikes not affected by the new ARF, but will still fight with you for COE. But those who are content to have just one and only one expensive BMW or Harley or Ducati are punished, even though they are not vying with you for extra COE.

 

Logic leh.

 

bro... u go see those with multiple bikes.... do they own multiple under $5000 OMV bikes or do they generally own higher OMV bikes as u say "expensive BMW or Harley or Ducati "

 

You need to realise that this is a luxury tax, similar to the tiered ARF for cars introduced in 2013. I don't like this change as I ride as a an interest rather than a need.

 

But u cant deny that people like me and probably most in this forums are the ones who can do without a bike. We are the ones who don't need the bike COE but still have 1 or more because we like to and can. This has cause the demand for COE to rise and affect those who really need a bike.

 

Having said that, I don't agree with the number of bike COEs being released now. It should be much higher because we have minimal impact on the road congestion but that is a separate discussion altogether.

[MR BIKER]

if this future bike ever comes to singapore, I am sure garment will rubbing their hands with glee. imagine the price alone is US$160000. https://futurism.com/4-this-is-the-scorpion-3-the-worlds-first-hoverbike-you-can-actually-ride/