Gadget : GPS device on bikes

[FK6E]

Agree with lao uncle there will be newer models and prices will decrease when models get older bought my 2720 when first came out for USD900+ today not much of value but as long it provides to your needs and you like it go for it.

[speedevil6969]

how much would it be to install a ciggy socket?? any shop to recommend???

[rajeh_bp]

to all old birds, please advice how do you choose from these choices? I am very keen to get one for myself...

 

Since I'm using Zumo myself, I recommend the Zumo... its made for bike and it delivers what you paid for..... screen is big enough for you to view when riding... no need to stress your eyes... if you have bluetooth connection even better.. no need to see... just listen to the navigation... MP3 thro your bluetooth earpiece is a plus point.....

[rajeh_bp]

i am seeing stars now ... so many models to choose from ...

 

you can also consider the Street Pilot 2720 for S$480.. http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4792451&postcount=1329

[lao uncle]

you can also consider the Street Pilot 2720 for S$480.. http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4792451&postcount=1329

 

Does this Street Pilot 2720 use the NT map format. All new maps from garmin uses this NT map. If it does not then it is very difficult to update other countries maps.

[Demon]

i am seeing stars now ... so many models to choose from:

 

Handheld

eTrex Legend HCx - $390

eTrex Vista HCx - $430

GPSMAP 60CSx - $490

Colorado 300 - $720

Oregon 300 - $750 + $20(bike mount)

 

 

Bike

Zumo 400 - $610

Zumo 450 - $950

Zumo 500 - $999

Zumo 550 - $1150

Nuvi 500 - $800

 

 

Like I mentioned earlier, handhelds have more features, and more user configurable screen than any of the Zumo or Nuvi.

What is more features ?

- modern phone features such as alarm, games...etc.

- special features such as moonrise and moonset, anchor watch alarm..etc.

- track logging (not trip logging) where tracks can be individually safe, named, and color coded, and a Trackback function.

What is more user configurable screen ?

- You can set a certain number of fields to be display with the map. Fields can be individually chosen of a list, such as Speed, Time, Direction, Attitude, Max Speed, GPS co-ordinate..etc.

- The mapping features such as display of road name, POI etc can be individually configured to show only at a defined map scale. This feature is useful so as not to clutter the small screen.

 

The Zumo, and Nuvi have one distinct advantage over handhelds is that it has a large screen.

 

please advice how do you choose from these choices? I am very keen to get one for myself...

 

What are you using it for ? If the GPS is to be used only on the bike, then get a Zumo or Nuvi. If you have intention to use it on foot, such as hiking then get a Handheld.

 

The Zumo can also be used for hiking except that it has a relatively short battery endurance, about max 4 hrs as compared to Handhelds which uses standard drycells and have at least 10 hrs endurance.

 

Here is where the Nuvi 500 stands out. It has a much longer battery endurance of 8 hrs, and the only one that has replaceable battery feature.

[jonkuek]

thank you so much, Demon and rajeh, words from you guys had really enlighten me. Now i am convince that i'll get a Zumo 500. I am not a hiking guy, mainly using on bike for road navigation.

[chinu]

GPS units are just like computer, they will be outdated and newer models come in. Prices will drop over time.

 

I remember my 60cs which cost more than $800+ that is about 4 years ago. Now, you cant compare with 60csx then colorado and now oregon. Oregon is just about $750 now.

 

Just buy it and forget about the decrease in price.

 

ya lucky for me to buy a gps few years later than you

 

just saw that MFM v1.23 out already

[jeffreysg]

 

 

wah $750,..thought $600

 

$750 comes with any accessories??

 

The GPS comes with standard accessories, eg: The device itself, USB cable for date transfer, Carabiner clip and manual.

 

 

 

 

 

i should have waited for few more month ......... oregon 300 just $30 more than colorado 300.....

 

how you find the touch screen ? easy to use ?

 

The Oregon 300 screen is 3" touch screen, and is user friendly. I dont have any difficulty using my glove to operated it.

[jonkuek]

For bike gps,

what are the differences between Zumo, StreetPilot and Quest series?

[Demon]

For bike gps,

what are the differences between Zumo, StreetPilot and Quest series?

 

There is little relevance in this comparison as Streetpilot and Quest have been discontinued.

 

However if you really need to know, here is what I can recall from my memory.

 

Streetpilot and Quest are previous generation GPS, so they have slower processor, and do not have high-sensitivity receiver. These are their main shortcomings :

- Solely dependent on external power as they do not have internal batteries

- Only internal memory with no external memory. You could only change map with connection to a PC.

- Software do not accept multiple map files, so you can only load one map at a time.

[iceangel]

i am interested in the zumo and decided to write in to the local garmin agent to find out more. this is their reply:

the zumo 550 comes pre-loaded with europe map, and because of where i am situated geographically, i am only interested in sin, m'sia and thailand maps. i was then asked to consider purchasing the City Navigator SouthEastern Asia NT (on SD card) which consist of Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, Indonesia, Hong Kong and Macau. The total price of the unit plus the SD card quoted was SGD1,547.00. I have used the Garmin GPSMAP 76 series before (black n white display), a really old model some years ago, but found the need to update my maps from malsingmaps.com on a regular basis which proved to be time consuming and tedious. Does the zumo 550's SD card alleviate this problem? Can anyone with experience with the zumo 550 advise on this? Thanks a thousand...

[lacrimosae]

I recently met a biker who uses the Garmin Edge 705, which is a GPS for cyclists.

 

Besides being compact, waterproof, and mountable on the handlebars, the 9-hr battery life is good. Manufacturer's specs state 15-hr battery life, but practical usage puts it at 9 hours thereabouts.

 

He uses it for cycling training as well since it measures cadence. Just a heads-up for those riders who cycle as well.

 

[CMYRS]

I recently met a biker who uses the Garmin Edge 705, which is a GPS for cyclists.

 

Besides being compact, waterproof, and mountable on the handlebars, the 9-hr battery life is good. Manufacturer's specs state 15-hr battery life, but practical usage puts it at 9 hours thereabouts.

 

He uses it for cycling training as well since it measures cadence. Just a heads-up for those riders who cycle as well.

 

 

 

dat will be great for duo usage.

 

but im wondering if the gps can pick up signals as quickly as one meant for vehicles?

 

cycling and motorcycling speeds can vary significantly.

travelling at 100km/h, it takes about 3 secs to cover about 100m.

possible to miss a turn off if the maps dont relay as quickly?

[jk911]

i am interested in the zumo and decided to write in to the local garmin agent to find out more. this is their reply:

the zumo 550 comes pre-loaded with europe map, and because of where i am situated geographically, i am only interested in sin, m'sia and thailand maps. i was then asked to consider purchasing the City Navigator SouthEastern Asia NT (on SD card) which consist of Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, Indonesia, Hong Kong and Macau. The total price of the unit plus the SD card quoted was SGD1,547.00. I have used the Garmin GPSMAP 76 series before (black n white display), a really old model some years ago, but found the need to update my maps from malsingmaps.com on a regular basis which proved to be time consuming and tedious. Does the zumo 550's SD card alleviate this problem? Can anyone with experience with the zumo 550 advise on this? Thanks a thousand...

 

hi ter, can i noe how much is City Navigator SouthEastern Asia NT (on SD card) which consist of Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, Indonesia, Hong Kong and Macau.?

[Demon]

dat will be great for duo usage.

 

but im wondering if the gps can pick up signals as quickly as one meant for vehicles?

 

cycling and motorcycling speeds can vary significantly.

travelling at 100km/h, it takes about 3 secs to cover about 100m.

possible to miss a turn off if the maps dont relay as quickly?

 

Speed from GPS is calculated based on fix to fix, so it will calculate the speed of cycling or motorcycling with the same accuracy.

 

Even for automobile GPS such as Zumo or Nuvi, they can calculate walking speed to speed of bullet train to speed of a commercial aircraft.

 

[iceangel]

hi ter, can i noe how much is City Navigator SouthEastern Asia NT (on SD card) which consist of Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, Indonesia, Hong Kong and Macau.?

 

i was quoted package price consisting of zumo unit plus SD card, not sure price of card alone. try to call AAAs Com Solution at Sim Lim at 6866-1952.

[Demon]

hi ter, can i noe how much is City Navigator SouthEastern Asia NT (on SD card) which consist of Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, Indonesia, Hong Kong and Macau.?

 

USD $149.99

http://www8.garmin.com/cartography/mapSource/citynavnt_Southeast_Asia.jsp#price

 

I feel that the City Navigator maps for Singapore and Malaysia will never be as current as the MSM maps.

 

[Ones_Co]

jus got my oregon 300 few week ago...

 

super good.... easy to use... but user interface diff from my old hcx, so have to learn from start again...

[chinu]

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Oregon 300 screen is 3" touch screen, and is user friendly. I dont have any difficulty using my glove to operated it.

thanks for the reply

[CMYRS]

Speed from GPS is calculated based on fix to fix, so it will calculate the speed of cycling or motorcycling with the same accuracy.

 

Even for automobile GPS such as Zumo or Nuvi, they can calculate walking speed to speed of bullet train to speed of a commercial aircraft.

 

 

 

older gps, pre RSIF III technology used to take a long time to detect and there was a lag in relaying real time information.

 

im not sure what sort of techonology is in the gps meant for bicycles.

if it picks up signals as quickly as those meant for cars

 

but if one type can do it all im not sure why we can have so many models just from one brand?

[Demon]

older gps, pre RSIF III technology used to take a long time to detect and there was a lag in relaying real time information.

 

The speed in which a GPS acquires it's first fix lies in the search algorithm. The latest nuvi 205 uses the STMicro chipset and not the SIRF III chipset but it has the "hotfix" feature which enables the device to lock on to the satellites very quickly.

 

 

but if one type can do it all im not sure why we can have so many models just from one brand?

 

It's called market segmentation.

 

In the Garmin Automobiles alone, there are more than 25 different models. The models are differentiated by physical dimensions, performance & features. Then there are some models, such as Nuvi 200, and 250; Nuvi 200W, and 250W, Nuvi 205W, and 255W which are physically and technical identical, and the difference is only in the pre-loaded maps.

[CMYRS]

The speed in which a GPS acquires it's first fix lies in the search algorithm. The latest nuvi 205 uses the STMicro chipset and not the SIRF III chipset but it has the "hotfix" feature which enables the device to lock on to the satellites very quickly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

a couple of years ago i have tried using a gps meant for bicycles in a car along side one meant for a car

 

Above speeds of about 50-70km/h, the readings on the bicycle one started to slur. The map directions were given to late and there were speed differences between the bicycle gps compared to the car speedo and car gps.

 

but the bicycle gps worked fine when used for biking or at walking pace.

 

i would suggest anyone before buying the gps to see if they can get one to try for intended usage. Or get the shop to give a written promise that they will do a full refund if the bicycle gps does not work as your mentioned use.

 

i ask the above questions due to the fact that a friend has lodged a complaint with case based on 'facts' by the sales person. He bought it, tried it out and didnt work. all the techincal talk means nothing at the end of the day if the device does not work for your intended purpose right?

[MonoWorld]

hi guys, any entry level of GPS device for touring purpose? pls advise. thanks

[jonkuek]

Hi guys, came across this website - http://www.eastgear.com/garmin -

It claims that it is one of Singapore's largest importer and distributor of Garmin products. Anyone bought gps from them?