chain cleaning

[blackant]

why u still want to clean chains???

dont u know oilers do that for u automatically...

 

I like to clean it manually.

[ezzyoiler]

yeah some do ...spending up to 3 hrs every 500km to keep the chains in tip top conditions..

 

just like a marathon..the high is priceless..

 

most of us find this task..chain cleaning is a big headache...the time, expensive chain spray and other cleaning consumables ..and all the hassles fo doing it..

dont forget u may dirty your shirts/pants..

i mysel have dirtied some well worn but comfy clothing...sigh..

 

Oilers used to be expensive solution to a problem we can all solve with a bit of elbow grease and time..

but now there is a low cost solution...

check this out..if u want to considetr an alternative low cost solution..

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php/298400-lt-CMO-gt-Ezzyoiler...the-chain-oiler?p=6725331#post6725331

Edited October 10, 2010 by ezzyoiler

[allenkey]

Do we still need to fill any form or can we just pump into a bottle and pay for it?

 

 

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yes, u can bring ur own container or buy a tin can from the counter.

as long as u aren't pumping directly to a vehicle (be it diesel or petrol), you'll need to produce ur IC for the staff to fill in the record book.

[natgw]

yes, u can bring ur own container or buy a tin can from the counter.

as long as u aren't pumping directly to a vehicle (be it diesel or petrol), you'll need to produce ur IC for the staff to fill in the record book.

 

no need to produce IC. staff at counter just told me to write my particulars in the book and FO

[4th_Espada]

cleaning manually gives you assurance i believe...those auto chain lubing/cleaning wont give u as much assurance as they dont lube equally on each link..just my opinion..

[ezzyoiler]

cleaning manually gives you assurance i believe...those auto chain lubing/cleaning wont give u as much assurance as they dont lube equally on each link..just my opinion..

 

oilers do a great job..

manual also ...

as long as there is enough lube..the chains will be okay..

 

the important thing to remember is that will the manual lubing will last the distanced travelled until the next cleaning and oiling session..

 

this is where the oiler is more superior..

manually lube chains...the majority of lube will be thrown off on the first ride ..will there be still lube ?? on subsequent rides to do the job before the next lubing session??

oilers just oil your chains continuosly on every ride..thus lubing the chain whenever u ride..

thats the reason why oilers users are experiencing extended chain/sprocket lifes...5x have been regularly mentioned..

[blackant]

I don't mind having a oilers if they look nicer, as in if they looks like part of the original bike and not another separate items with wire ties around it.

 

Then again, can the oiler keep the chain clean from the sides as well?

As manually, I would use a cloth to clean all the stains from around the chains so as to make it clean and look nicer.

[ezzyoiler]

if u insist that manual lubbing is best..okay..it is best for you..

 

but then..i am an oiler user...

after 10,000km...still dont need to retension the chain..

and in the end i will be savings money from chain replacement...spray waxes..cleaning solutions..etc.

enjoying the ride...while others without an oiler will spend at least 2 hrs / 500km cleaning it..

good luck..

[blackant]

if u insist that manual lubbing is best..okay..it is best for you..

 

but then..i am an oiler user...

after 10,000km...still dont need to retension the chain..

and in the end i will be savings money from chain replacement...spray waxes..cleaning solutions..etc.

enjoying the ride...while others without an oiler will spend at least 2 hrs / 500km cleaning it..

good luck..

 

Guess everyone has their own preference. Just choose which is best for you. Good luck to you too.

 

 

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[ezzyoiler]

i was thinking about the cost of cleaning and oiling cost..

 

lets say i ride 500km/week..

 

i spend 2 hours every weekend to clean and oil it...to keep chains in tip top conditions..this means this exclude those who says they keep chains in tip top condition but do not want to want the time to clean it..

 

spray waxes and cleaners and consumables. ...lets say 1 can=$12..../month

 

chain replacement $200...

 

 

1 year expenditure....

A.. time=2 hrs x 52= 104 hrs..

for an 8 hour work day=13 days.

how much is this worth?? at $1/hr? or $10/hr ? or $0..

 

(i use only 2 seconds on my semi auto oiler per day.=730 seconds=12 minutes??)

 

 

 

B..spray waxes and consumable= $12x12=$144

(i use $3/L lube..this will last me 10k km easily)

 

C..chain replacement..lets say conservatively 3x..1x=10000 km

then 30k km=1 chain =$200..at 6k km/yr..it will take me 5 years to replace a set of it..

so i yr used $200/5 =$40 worth of chains....

 

summary..manually..

 

...13 days of work..expended

$144 of consumables..bought

chain usage $200/5 yrs= $40/year worth of chains

 

Total= 13 days and $184

 

using oiler..low cost oiler..available from $40..(and the xx oilers up to $500 or more.)

 

oiler cost $40..lets say we replace it every year..

time expended 12minutes/year

consumables $3/year

chain usage is$40

 

total= 12 minutes and $80

 

you can do this exercise by putting your own usage numbers..

 

so good luck to all who maintains the chain in tip top conditions...

good luck too to those who do not...please get more medical insurances..

Edited October 15, 2010 by ezzyoiler

[blackant]

good luck too to those who do not...please get more medical insurances..

 

I am not sure why non oiler user needs to get more medical insurances now.

Anyway sorry for getting off topic, it has become a oiler vs manual chain cleaner issue.

 

All the best in your sales.

Edited October 15, 2010 by blackant

[Dag Loke]

hmm.. sorry to butt in but i'm a fan of manual cleaning as well.. cos it helps me as a noob to be aware of my bike and also lubing it manually allows me to check my linkages.. i believe if i used auto lube, i might get lzy and not do a routine check

[ezzyoiler]

I am not sure why non oiler user needs to get more medical insurances now.

Anyway sorry for getting off topic, it has become a oiler vs manual chain cleaner issue.

 

All the best in your sales.

 

thank you..

allow me to reproduce the whole paragraph..

'so good luck to all who maintains the chain in tip top conditions...

good luck too to those who do not...please get more medical insurances"

 

now thats the whole picture..

 

"

[blackant]

thank you..

allow me to reproduce the whole paragraph..

'so good luck to all who maintains the chain in tip top conditions...

good luck too to those who do not...please get more medical insurances"

 

now thats the whole picture..

 

"

 

Oh sorry didn't get it right in the first place. My bad

 

 

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[iankoh]

Hi all riders,

 

I just got my kawasaki installed with the “EzzyOiler” on saturday with 2 other riders and this post depicts the result.

 

It is AWESOME. The bike feels smoother now and my days of buying chain lubricant and spraying my bike chain are OVER! Till of course I want to clean my chain.

 

This clever piece of intellectual property here was literally created by "EzzyOiler" himself and he is a very friendly gentleman and I recommend riders who are perhaps perplexed onto how to:

 

1. Lubricate your chain

2. What kind of Chain Lub to use?

3. How many km's before lubricating your chain?

4. Or anyone who just want to lubricate your chain in the best possible way.

 

If you do not understand how this works from "EzzyOiler's" description of his product. Let me break down the gist of it, after speaking to Ezzyoiler himself and looking at the product in action.

 

*DISCLAIMER*

I am not advertizing for him, this is all but my take on the product.

 

First, it is important to understand it is a "TOTAL LOSS" system. What this means is that everytime you ride, the oil that lubricates your chain will be SPENT. Meaning, the oil will trickle down the rubber hoses onto the sides of the sprocket.What will happen then is because of how liquid molecules move, the oil will "SPREAD" naturally onto your CHAIN and SPROCKET. WHY? Don't ask me, ask the laws of PHYSICS.

 

Secondly, you may ask, what kind of OIL should you use? Since this is about cost efficiency, Ezzyoiler recommends UNC 2T oil @ $3 per bottle. So this entirely depends on you. One bottle is 1 Litre.

 

Thirdly, you may ask, how much oil is needed to lube your chain as your ride? This depends on the displacement i.e. cc. of your bike which means how big your chain is. Basically, the rubber hoses that drips the oil is connected to a little 60ml bottle. What you must do everytime you ride, is to “pump” the amount of oil required for your motorbike chain. HENCE the “TOTAL LOSS” system.

 

Don’t catch the idea yet? OK very simple.

 

Every time you ride, say for 10 - 15 mins, all you need to do is PUMP ONCE. Because, all this does is pump the oil from the bottle, which will trickle down the rubber hoses, onto your sprocket. To give a numerical value to this, ONE PUMP gives you 2ml of oil.

2ml of oil is about 15 drops onto your sprocket according to EzzyOiler. This is about 1 DROP OF OIL PER 1.5 MINUTES.

 

Needless to say, as long as the oil stops trickling at the end of your RIDE, EzzyOiler has done its job by dripping oil onto your bike chain, WHILST RIDING. The result you will see would be a SHINY chain due to the oil. So, lets say you ride for 20 mins, you may need 2 PUMPS for example, and so on and forth.

 

Therefore, I would like to thank EzzyOiler himself for this brilliant idea, and I would recommend riders who are interested to check out the product!

 

Ups for EZZYOILER!

[livinouttabox]

hmm.. sorry to butt in but i'm a fan of manual cleaning as well.. cos it helps me as a noob to be aware of my bike and also lubing it manually allows me to check my linkages.. i believe if i used auto lube, i might get lzy and not do a routine check

 

+1 on manual cleaning. IT's a great way to be aware of the condition of chain and sprockets. Imagine all that grit that accumulates over the months of riding. Adding lube is just adding a solvent for the sand and grit to "sandpaper" your chain and sprocket kilat kilat

[ezzyoiler]

+1 on manual cleaning. IT's a great way to be aware of the condition of chain and sprockets. Imagine all that grit that accumulates over the months of riding. Adding lube is just adding a solvent for the sand and grit to "sandpaper" your chain and sprocket kilat kilat

i think u r grossly missinformed..with regards to the highligted remarks..

 

unless you mean u ADD without cleaning chains..

[Lexanez]

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i think u r grossly missinformed..with regards to the highligted remarks..

 

unless you mean u ADD without cleaning chains..

 

And I think he meant just that.

[Aalex82]

ya..

i oso think he mean that.

[ezzyoiler]

the only exception is that u use an oiler..which continuosly lube it ...than there is no need to clean it prior to lubing.

[kinwei]

I use kerosene to wash my chain. After wash, just wash it off with soap. I only need

[jack oh jack]

Do we still need to fill any form or can we just pump into a bottle and pay for it?

 

i buy countless time, jus pump into any bottle(green tea 500ml oso can) den go cashier pay..

no question ask.

[Isopropyl]

Hi all riders,

 

I just got my kawasaki installed with the “EzzyOiler” on saturday with 2 other riders and this post depicts the result.

 

if i not wrong, i might be one of the rider with you. hehehe... saw your posting and decide to give my 2 cents too. i skip the technical part since you have nicely cover it.

 

Advantage:

1) Low cost - $45 to fix plus some free lube oil from Mr Koh.

2) Lube the chain extremely well.

3) Easy to use and can do some minor adjustment/repair if there is a need due to the very simple design.

4) clean the centre of chain extremely well. the centre part look like bare mental with a layer of oil all the time. bling bling.

5) do not even have to buy the cheap $3 UNCLUBE 2T oil. can top up with left over engine oil after oil change. $45 and that it.

6) flexible system. multiple way of mounting it to your bike. you can re-mount on your own. it this simple.

7) Nice service from Mr Koh.

 

Disadvantage:

1) i won't say it totally make cleaning the chain history. cleaning still have to be done on external of the chain. just make thing alot easier.

2) the look department might not appeal to some. but should not be too obvious.

3) look flimsy. only time can tell how long does it last and cost to maintain the system. (frequent trip to Mr Koh?)

4) due to the design of some bike, the tubing might kink(bend) which will affect the oil flow. i have to use cable tie to reduce kinking.

5) some oil does goes on your chain guard, rim etc. should not be a big issue. as for the wheel, practically not very possible to cause skidding. it about a drop of oil every minute and out of this small drop only a very tiny amount goes there if any. the friction should "rub" away such amount before it can reach a danger level.

6) Due to the oiler is very DIYing build, product might varies from bike to bike. luckily Mr Koh give good after service too. cheers to that.

 

will update if there is anything new. overall i think it is a good investment. no matter how good the lube used, nothing beat constant lubing. just love how well it keep the chian with a layer of oil all the time. the cleaning effect is good to have. again, some light manual cleaning/inspection here and then is still recommended. it work well as it intended purpose.

 

Suggestion: Maybe Mr Koh can look into better tubing to address the kinking issue.

Edited November 10, 2010 by Isopropyl

[iankoh]

nice.. haha mine needs adjustments too.. only one side is flowing oil due to the angle the twin cable tie is at. so gotta readjust my own!

[ezzyoiler]

+1 on manual cleaning. IT's a great way to be aware of the condition of chain and sprockets. Imagine all that grit that accumulates over the months of riding. Adding lube is just adding a solvent for the sand and grit to "sandpaper" your chain and sprocket kilat kilat

 

just an update...

with the oiler adding lube everytime you ride will not..result as you mentioned ..Adding lube is just adding a solvent for the sand and grit to "sandpaper" your chain and sprocket kilat kilat[/quote]

 

the effect is the opposite....the oiler will in effect cleans your chain..as you ride..

while you manual clean lube...when is the next time you do this??1 week,2weeks, 1month?

during this interval the chain will infact pick up road grimes and will end up as an abrasive...grinding your chain away..

thats why oiler will give your chain maximum life and less frequent chain tensioning too compared to the manually hassle of cleaning and lubing regularly..

 

check this out if u dont understand what i am trying to explain..

 

the low cost oiler ..i love it..

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php/298400-lt-CMO-gt-Ezzyoiler...the-chain-oiler