Aprilia Riders

[spiderman]

Originally posted by eyz@Aug 20 2005, 04:50 PM

alex, iswan once mentioned tat the centre part of the gpr tyres tend to wear out or flatten vey fast due to it's soft compound... n suggested battalax for a better choice..

 

 

wat ya think?

ya true... i'm more track orientated.... if u wan fast get gpr70... got afriend used both before... a rvf with track timing 2min... he said the other is crap... gpr70 is still better even on a 400

[eyz]

i dunno how true is the flattenin of the gpr tyres..

 

but i'd an encounter with battlax once in the rain...

 

front tyres slipped off when i was on a downslope, turning in the yellow box..

 

first and last time with bt090

 

but mayb every tyres wud had gave way given under tat kind of condition..

[spiderman]

Originally posted by eyz@Aug 20 2005, 04:58 PM

i dunno how true is the flattenin of the gpr tyres..

 

but i'd an encounter with battlax once in the rain...

 

front tyres slipped off when i was on a downslope, turning in the yellow box..

 

first and last time with bt090

 

but mayb every tyres wud had gave way given under tat kind of condition..

the centre wearing out faster on gpr70 is very normal... if u r a straight road racer or relax rider i think battlax is enough to use... my 250 mainly for track so i don really care... o as for tyre slip part... i think its quite eviatable have a slide on piant on wet days... gpr also will...

[muser]

Originally posted by DMS4R+-->

QUOTE (DMS4R)

counter steer onli can do at high speed[/b] That depends what you consider high speed. Above 50km/h, it's a requirement of physics to countersteer in order to change direction. It's not an option. There is physically no other way to change your bike's direction. It's probably no coincidence that learners aren't allowed to go above 50km/h at schools. The schools consequently can get away with not teaching new riders countersteering. Then the riders pass, get on any expressway, go above 80km/h, and don't know how to change direction quickly and efficiently to save their lives. Pisses me off.   Many people are sick of hearing my story of the CBR900 rider I saw who had to hang off to change a single lane on PIE at no faster 80km/h simply because it was obvious he didn't know how to countersteer.   Originally posted by DMS4R+--> QUOTE (DMS4R) counter steer not easy to do... every 1 talk like very easy[/b] Please don't take this as arrogance on my part bro - I'm here to share knowledge, just like you - but countersteering is easy, and everyone already does it to some degree, whether they realise it or not. It's not black magic or any kind of secret kungfu, but is in fact a basic of bike control.

[servoprax]

anybody know much ml of oil in the ol' rs250 fork? gona change mine.

[muser]

Law doesn't have his laptop with him so asked me to please post this for him:

 

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Where and when? National Stadium Carpark C, tomorrow, Sunday, Aug 21st, 10am onwards

What? Free keychains, helmet bags, Unil-Opal T-shirts, and limited number of caps and stickers.

[spiderman]

Originally posted by muser@Aug 20 2005, 05:21 PM

Please don't take this as arrogance on my part bro - I'm here to share knowledge, just like you - but countersteering is easy, and everyone already does it to some degree, whether they realise it or not. It's not black magic or any kind of secret kungfu, but is in fact a basic of bike control.

 

 

Yah, Wan did mentioned that before, cuz Battlaxes are dual compound - hard in the middle, soft on the outside. GPR70s are soft compound all around, if I'm not mistaken. They were created for production-class racing, and long life was therefore not a priority. On our lightweight bikes though, lifespan is pretty acceptable.

 

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Sigh, I've really wanted to meet up more with everyone cuz there's lots I'd like to discuss, but things have been so crazy lately I got no time. I don't even know if I'll be going motard race tomorrow. I guess I'll have no choice but to meet up with the track group on Monday morning first, and then meet up with the rest some other time. So much for my original intention of gathering the entire club for announcements and opinions, haiz.

i think they r toking about countersteering for corner entry... my thinking of counter steering is more of track purpose so if they r not practicing for corner entry then i'm out of point liao....

[spiderman]

Originally posted by servoprax@Aug 20 2005, 05:23 PM

anybody know much ml of oil in the ol' rs250 fork? gona change mine.

u doing yourself? better bring to teck thye to do... i think he does a good job...

[servoprax]

alex : r u suggesting me to do the mod u did ?

[spiderman]

Originally posted by servoprax@Aug 20 2005, 05:39 PM

alex : r u suggesting me to do the mod u did ?

no lah but if u got enough cash i think its a good investment.. but if u wanna join the aprilia cup then better review the rules if they can let u mod yr fork.... its around 1k plus... at least its cheaper then getting a new after market fork... and it works so well... i'm impressed and it made me lose a sec or so...

[macan_putih]

hello guys....sorry been in camp so cant really have time to read any posts....congrats on samuel on passing his tp.so i guess no need me already rite...ahakz..anyway anyone wanna get a jollymoto full exhausts system?

[servoprax]

See... that the thing. they say can mod ur fork internals as in springs etc while still using the orignal fork. changing the top adjuster might be considered an illegal mod. but if u change ur fork to the current version like yours, it is legal. for urs any change inside is legal. see the grey area.

 

in anycase i just need a new fork oil and possibly put in some shims to increase the preload while i think about a new set of springs.

[Visor]

Originally posted by M@+r!X@Aug 20 2005, 04:42 PM

ya but in order to practice it i do it even if im juz moving at 30km/h.. n when u're going tt slow u gonna throw tt handlebar soo hard till as if im gona fall off the bike.. but i wonder will these do harm on the steering cone or whell bearings in the long run?

Andrew, i've said before, don't need to learn counter-steering yet, not your gradual unknowingly countersteer, i'm referring to those techniques use to enter a corner at high speeds or clearing a chicane.Like alex said, practise basics first, when to brake,how much brake should be applied,eyeline,arms bent,riding posture,slow in fast out, don't stick to the apex(rem the kup chai line you took at jurong?).. everything from entering the bend to in the bend itself to exiting the bend must be calculated..improve on those first. I'm still learning myself as well, and i find i can't learn at a faster pace on roads due to multiple risk factors, besides alot of close calls and friends have been badly injured. That's why i'm dying to go track, but do not have the proper gear and bike set up.

 

That's why when i read that some of the new aprilia riders who had a accident a few weeks or days after their license,i am wondering how come? not as if a car hit you or something, mostly i feel is you guys not taking biking seriously, going round at high speeds and taking unecessary risks.Don't take this as a scolding, i got this as well when i talk to my group of frens who have been riding for donkey years.All about respect..yourself and your bike.

[Sub Zero]

Originally posted by spiderman@Aug 20 2005, 05:03 PM

the centre wearing out faster on gpr70 is very normal... if u r a straight road racer or relax rider i think battlax is enough to use... my 250 mainly for track so i don really care... o as for tyre slip part... i think its quite eviatable have a slide on piant on wet days... gpr also will...

I guess Battleaxe is the way for me... Anyway, i'm a fan of big tyres.. IF i'm not wrong, it's ok to use 140 - 150 for the rear tyre for our rs125...

 

[Sub Zero]

Anyobe who's going fot the race tmr pls grab a fistful of key chains, a M size Uni Opal tshirt.. and maybe a helmet bag if you can swing it..

 

Haiz, if Law was giving away 2T, i'd be there in a jiffy.. :cheeky:

[spiderman]

Originally posted by servoprax@Aug 20 2005, 05:51 PM

See... that the thing. they say can mod ur fork internals as in springs etc while still using the orignal fork. changing the top adjuster might be considered an illegal mod. but if u change ur fork to the current version like yours, it is legal. for urs any change inside is legal. see the grey area.

 

in anycase i just need a new fork oil and possibly put in some shims to increase the preload while i think about a new set of springs.

if changing the top adjust is illegal then cannot already lor... if change to new version 250 one dunno can anot...

[spiderman]

Originally posted by Sub Zero@Aug 20 2005, 06:18 PM

I guess Battleaxe is the way for me... Anyway, i'm a fan of big tyres.. IF i'm not wrong, it's ok to use 140 - 150 for the rear tyre for our rs125...

 

yes its perfectly fine if u don wan extra power on yr machine... its up to yr preferance

[spiderman]

Originally posted by Visor@Aug 20 2005, 06:13 PM

Andrew, i've said before, don't need to learn counter-steering yet, not your gradual unknowingly countersteer, i'm referring to those techniques use to enter a corner at high speeds or clearing a chicane.Like alex said, practise basics first, when to brake,how much brake should be applied,eyeline,arms bent,riding posture,slow in fast out, don't stick to the apex(rem the kup chai line you took at jurong?).. everything from entering the bend to in the bend itself to exiting the bend must be calculated..improve on those first. I'm still learning myself as well, and i find i can't learn at a faster pace on roads due to multiple risk factors, besides alot of close calls and friends have been badly injured. That's why i'm dying to go track, but do not have the proper gear and bike set up.

 

That's why when i read that some of the new aprilia riders who had a accident a few weeks or days after their license,i am wondering how come? not as if a car hit you or something, mostly i feel is you guys not taking biking seriously, going round at high speeds and taking unecessary risks.Don't take this as a scolding, i got this as well when i talk to my group of frens who have been riding for donkey years.All about respect..yourself and your bike.

yup i can't put it in words better... haha... well for track wise its good that u wan a better gear for track... my first track day i was in full suit already.... everything was new except my army boots! haha ... the track look so big and lots of intimidating bigger bikes.... i went on a sunday if i remember correctly... kept my cool and tried to remember the track.. after half an hour i went faster but got a few corners i over shot my braking point and went off track a bit... so i know which corners should a newbie look out for... those r killers for them...

[CMYRS]

For those of you who have watched the movie, TORQUE.

 

Im sure everyone saw the RSV R the lead actor was riding but did anyone notice the first few lines in the movie?

 

He arrives at an out house/gas station after smoking a DC 3 & a Eclipse and speaks to a boy there.

 

Boy: Is it fast?

Biker: SOMETIMES (with a sorry grin on his face)

 

Its a RSV-R for god's sake, with 107Nm of torque, at a stand still, it looks fast.

 

Unless he was referring to the reliablilty of Aprilia?

 

Maybe he would say always instead if he got off a R1?

 

HMmmmmmmmm....food for thought...........

[spiderman]

Originally posted by CMYRS@Aug 20 2005, 07:02 PM

For those of you who have watched the movie, TORQUE.

 

Im sure everyone saw the RSV R the lead actor was riding but did anyone notice the first few lines in the movie?

 

He arrives at an out house/gas station after smoking a DC 3 & a Eclipse and speaks to a boy there.

 

Boy: Is it fast?

Biker: SOMETIMES (with a sorry grin on his face)

 

Its a RSV-R for god's sake, with 107Nm of torque, at a stand still, it looks fast.

 

Unless he was referring to the reliablilty of Aprilia?

 

Maybe he would say always instead if he got off a R1?

 

HMmmmmmmmm....food for thought...........

ya i think so too... rsv is quite low powered compared to ducati... in moto gp they r always one of the mid or back markers.... sad isn't it..

[CMYRS]

Personally, in this regard, I think its not a fair comparison between production & Moto GP bikes. IMHO.

 

A bike that rolls off the factory floor and one that is prep for race, may be based on the same basic chassis, engine but Im pretty certain there will be alot of other variances, eg, just for a particular track they will have a different set of sprocket for optimum acceleration & max speed, tyres, inlet & exhaust manifold/extractor degree settings and the list just goes on...........

[fibre]

Originally posted by eyz@Aug 20 2005, 04:58 PM

i dunno how true is the flattenin of the gpr tyres..

 

but i'd an encounter with battlax once in the rain...

 

front tyres slipped off when i was on a downslope, turning in the yellow box..

 

first and last time with bt090

 

but mayb every tyres wud had gave way given under tat kind of condition..

The bt090 is not dual compound...

[spiderman]

Originally posted by CMYRS@Aug 20 2005, 07:34 PM

Personally, in this regard, I think its not a fair comparison between production & Moto GP bikes. IMHO.

 

A bike that rolls off the factory floor and one that is prep for race, may be based on the same basic chassis, engine but Im pretty certain there will be alot of other variances, eg, just for a particular track they will have a different set of sprocket for optimum acceleration & max speed, tyres, inlet & exhaust manifold/extractor degree settings and the list just goes on...........

it does not really matter if its moto gp or not.. in both product series and gp one they r still losing... hope they have a break through of some sort..

[Sub Zero]

hey guys,

 

meeting edwin at khatib for kopi... will there fm 9pm onwards.. gimme a buzz or sms before you come..

 

Viknesh

91820340

[spiderman]

Originally posted by Sub Zero@Aug 20 2005, 09:00 PM

hey guys,

 

meeting edwin at khatib for kopi... will there fm 9pm onwards.. gimme a buzz or sms before you come..

 

Viknesh

91820340

again? not boring ah going to the same shop?